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Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 3:16pm On Jan 26, 2018
mostyg:
Let me first mention that I m not here to argue, I m here to collaborate the op's view based on personal experience.

We are indeed in war which we are heedless of.
How many of us believe in existence of witches and wizards? Why do we think people join these group consciously and unconsciously? Unconsciously because 50% of people just found themselves in the group. Witches recruit people just like any other organization. Once you found yourself being invited to a party with same clothes 'Aso ebi' or always eating in your dreams, there is tendency you are being invited to such group.
Unfortunately, some of our children have been forced in and they are being waited for to come of age and given power. ( we don't have to believe this).
Just yesterday after a ruqya session a brother asked if there was going to be an end to this spiritual attack. Of course himself and myself know the answer is negative. The people of evil are increasing in number while the Muslims are increasing themselves in follies against one another.
On the issue of helping the Muslim jinns, this is very paramount. My little experience in ruqya field shows that most of these evil jinns do not know they are evil, they just obey instructions. They don't even know about judgement day. The recitation of suratul qiyamah has made most of them accept Islam. Preaching to these jinns about Islam and begging Allah to show them their final abode if they died in the state of kufr and their abode if they accept Islam have always yielded positive result. I may not be able to count numbers of jinns and witches who has taken shahadah and later turned to fight those using them for evil. Wa kanno haqo alayno nasru limuminun.

My advise, whenever a jin speaks, please do whatever in your capacity to let them accept Islam. Please note that some would accept in order to let them go without being sincere with it. In that case recite the verse of the place of hypocrite to them, and begging Allah to let them see.

Let me add that during the course of ruqya, Allah has bless us with several people that see jinns and witches in people. This also has its own other side, when a witch or jinn knows that you could see him/her, they come for you and it becomes a never ending war.

Our adhkar is very important, let's endeavor to do it with our family always. The tactics of the evil is firstly to make you loose your guard (adhkar), then they come striking.
No one I repeat no one cannot be attack. Always be on guard with your adhkar.

May Allah continue to protect us.

My brother U are the type am looking for in these thread, u have d experience and understanding, kindly come and contribute once in a while to dis thread let's discuss spirituality.

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by Shafiiimran99: 4:02pm On Jan 26, 2018
emekaRaj:


U have a point, but it's not anough, we need to do more, if d kafirun can go to any length for their false god, we as Muslims should be able to do more for Allah
What else do need after what has been given to us through prophet (sallallah alayh wasalam)?
Re: Islam And Spirituality by iamgenius(m): 8:29pm On Jan 26, 2018
emekaRaj:


My brother U are the type am looking for in these thread, u have d experience and understanding, kindly come and contribute once in a while to dis thread let's discuss spirituality.
BID'AH people don see each other. You dodged my questions as to what you mean by Spirituality.
Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 8:43pm On Jan 26, 2018
iamgenius:
BID'AH people don see each other. You dodged my questions as to what you mean by Spirituality.

Haaa!! Na by force..... I refuse to engage in those endless arguments with u. There's ur believe I can't change it obviously, and u can't change mine, so wats d point. If u have never walk down d spiritual path u can never understand. Dats y I only engage those who understand the topic.

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by Empiree: 9:53pm On Jan 26, 2018
emekaRaj:


Haaa!! Na by force..... I refuse to engage in those endless arguments with u. There's ur believe I can't change it obviously, and u can't change mine, so wats d point. If u have never walk down d spiritual path u can never understand. Dats y I only engage those who understand the topic.
Simple, isn't?.Tenets of islam are the basic requirements for all muslims. Some may choose to stop there and still make Janna. Some may grow further than that without abandoning the basics. There are overwhelming evidences of islamic practices beyond just salat, zakat, ramadan and Haj. If they feel no need to engage in islamic spirituality, which is actually the foundation in islam (dhikr allah), that's their opinion. They read many instances of Ihsan or tasawwuf, or zuhd whatever name they wanna call it in many ahadith but they chose to argue.
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Hkana: 10:21pm On Jan 26, 2018
^^^
That has been their stance. I knew such comment would come in the moment I saw the post on front page. grin

LadunaI
Tlake
Raintaker

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by iamgenius(m): 11:19pm On Jan 26, 2018
Empiree:
Simple, isn't?.Tenets of islam are the basic requirements for all muslims. Some may choose to stop there and still make Janna. Some may grow further than that without abandoning the basics. There are overwhelming evidences of islamic practices beyond just salat, zakat, ramadan and Haj. If they feel no need to engage in islamic spirituality, which is actually the foundation in islam (dhikr allah), that's their opinion. They read many instances of Ihsan or tasawwuf, or zuhd whatever name they wanna call it in many ahadith but they chose to argue.
You always claim Sufi is in the Quran, show us na
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Empiree: 11:34pm On Jan 26, 2018
iamgenius:
You always claim Sufi is in the Quran, show us na
it is the name "sufism" you have problem with or its essence?

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by dultmax(m): 7:00am On Jan 27, 2018
Al Fatiha....it means THE OPENING.

It is the opening chapter of the Holy Quran, consisting of "seven oft-recited verses". Check Quran 15 vs 87 "And infact, we have given you the seven oft-recited (verses of suratul fatiha) and the Grand Quran". . suratu fatiha is called umm-al-kitab (mother of the Quran) and it is a fine summary of the objectives of the Holy Quran. It is a chapter that consist of a verse which prays for us to lead us to the right path. Quran 1 vs 6. Reciting suratul fatiha is required at least minimum of 5 days in our salats and it is a pillar without which our salat wil not complete. Each nafil also consist of Fatiha and voulountry reading of it actually means you are praying for the right path.
The right path his spirituality.

Thank you

Shafiiimran99:
How did he know that for one to get spirituality he or she should recite Suratul Fathiah a lots?

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by Raintaker(m): 7:07am On Jan 27, 2018
Hkana:
^^^
That has been their stance. I knew such comment would come in the moment I saw the post on front page. grin

LadunaI
Tlake
Raintaker
grin
Hkana:
^^^
That has been their stance. I knew such comment would come in the moment I saw the post on front page. grin

LadunaI
Tlake
Raintaker
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Raintaker(m): 7:14am On Jan 27, 2018
I think the science of Islamic mysticism is for a selected few, not everyone would be able to understand it because we all possess different levels of understanding and our Islamic backgrounds are different.
Some so called Imams who are the teachers of all these young Muslim's who believe they are the ones with the right approach to Islam are often collaborators of these evil forces on a lower level.
There are many examples in our society.



How do we take Dawah to the Jinns and how do we help the Muslim Jinns in their quest?

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 11:35am On Jan 27, 2018
Empiree:
Simple, isn't?.Tenets of islam are the basic requirements for all muslims. Some may choose to stop there and still make Janna. Some may grow further than that without abandoning the basics. There are overwhelming evidences of islamic practices beyond just salat, zakat, ramadan and Haj. If they feel no need to engage in islamic spirituality, which is actually the foundation in islam (dhikr allah), that's their opinion. They read many instances of Ihsan or tasawwuf, or zuhd whatever name they wanna call it in many ahadith but they chose to argue.

My point exactly, u chose to limit ur self to minimum wages, I choose d Sky as my limit, by Allah we will all enter jannah, or perhaps I will enter a higher jannah cos I chose to go beyond the basic and worship Allah more

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 11:42am On Jan 27, 2018
Empiree:
it is the name "sufism" you have problem with or its essence?

Abi ooo..... They are just obsessed with word

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 11:54am On Jan 27, 2018
Raintaker:


How do we take Dawah to the Jinns and how do we help the Muslim Jinns in their quest?

There is effective method of dawah to d jinns. It's called 'jinn catching' u can literally catch all the jinns in particular area and convert them to Muslims, and use a verse to command to fight for Allah against shayateen.

I will explain it later
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Shafiiimran99: 12:11pm On Jan 27, 2018
dultmax:
Al Fatiha....it means THE OPENING.

It is the opening chapter of the Holy Quran, consisting of "seven oft-recited verses". Check Quran 15 vs 87 "And infact, we have given you the seven oft-recited (verses of suratul fatiha) and the Grand Quran". . suratu fatiha is called umm-al-kitab (mother of the Quran) and it is a fine summary of the objectives of the Holy Quran. It is a chapter that consist of a verse which prays for us to lead us to the right path. Quran 1 vs 6. Reciting suratul fatiha is required at least minimum of 5 days in our salats and it is a pillar without which our salat wil not complete. Each nafil also consist of Fatiha and voulountry reading of it actually means you are praying for the right path.
The right path his spirituality.

Thank you

I mean the kind of suffism spirituality that you are talk about. Who said you recite should Fathiah a lots and their source?
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Tlake(m): 2:51pm On Jan 27, 2018
Dear brothers we have bigger problems in d Deen which is lack of unity we are all from the same tree be it Christian or Muslims and as followers of prophet Mohammed and the Quran it's a pity we indulge in baseless tinz looking for faults in others, look into urselve and ask yourself am I mumeenin do u love ur neighbor as urself which is what Mohammed, isa preached... do u pray for ur brother for God to guide his heart onto righteousness instead of asking whether his Sufi, Sunni or whatsoever ,it's time to rise above sects and come together as brothers...
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Raintaker(m): 3:56pm On Jan 27, 2018
emekaRaj:


There is effective method of dawah to d jinns. It's called 'jinn catching' u can literally catch all the jinns in particular area and convert them to Muslims, and use a verse to command to fight for Allah against shayateen.

I will explain it later
Nice, but catcher has to be careful so as not to be possessed by evil Jinns.
Re: Islam And Spirituality by dultmax(m): 5:16pm On Jan 27, 2018
Ibn Abbas (R.A) narrated the Messenger ﷺ of Allah saying as:

“While the Messenger ﷺ of Allah was sitting with Jibril he heard a creaking sound above him. Jibril looked up and said, “This is [the sound of] a gate that has been opened in heaven today and has never been previously opened.” Then an Angel descended through it and came to the Prophet ﷺ and said, ‘Rejoice in the good news of two lights (sufism is understanding the light of the prophet)(saw) that have been given to you such as no Prophet before you has been given. [They are] Surah Al-Fatihah and the concluding [two] verses of Surah Al-Baqarah. You will never recite a word from them without being given the blessings they contain.’ “

Shafiiimran99:
I mean the kind of suffism spirituality that you are talk about. Who said you recite should Fathiah a lots and their source?

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by iamgenius(m): 7:00pm On Jan 27, 2018
Empiree:
it is the name "sufism" you have problem with or its essence?
Everything about Sufism. The first thing I want to know is where you claimed it's in the Quran. Don't forget that you have already given me a wrong verse to judge your Sufism.
Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 7:35pm On Jan 27, 2018
Raintaker:
Nice, but catcher has to be careful so as not to be possessed by evil Jinns.

LOL....... Like we have to be careful wen we r driving?
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Raintaker(m): 7:40pm On Jan 27, 2018
emekaRaj:

LOL....... Like we have to be careful wen we r driving?
True
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Empiree: 9:31pm On Jan 27, 2018
iamgenius:
Everything about Sufism. The first thing I want to know is where you claimed it's in the Quran. Don't forget that you have already given me a wrong verse to judge your Sufism.
you have problem. Maybe this 12 mins video would help you of the definition and essence sad

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2s&v=ie4YV0PTQ50

The word "Sufism" is not in the Quran but the descriptions are there. It is just like calling Allah by other names. So why are you nagging

So the Sufism existed in the time of nabi(saw). And sahaba were sufis.
Re: Islam And Spirituality by dultmax(m): 9:31pm On Jan 27, 2018
I am done talking to you
dultmax:
Ibn Abbas (R.A) narrated the Messenger ﷺ of Allah saying as:

“While the Messenger ﷺ of Allah was sitting with Jibril he heard a creaking sound above him. Jibril looked up and said, “This is [the sound of] a gate that has been opened in heaven today and has never been previously opened.” Then an Angel descended through it and came to the Prophet ﷺ and said, ‘Rejoice in the good news of two lights (sufism is understanding the light of the prophet)(saw) that have been given to you such as no Prophet before you has been given. [They are] Surah Al-Fatihah and the concluding [two] verses of Surah Al-Baqarah. You will never recite a word from them without being given the blessings they contain.’ “

Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 11:09pm On Jan 27, 2018
Empiree:
you have problem. Maybe this 12 mins video would help you of the definition and essence sad

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2s&v=ie4YV0PTQ50

The word "Sufism" is not in the Quran but the descriptions are there. It is just like calling Allah by other names. So why are you nagging

So the Sufism existed in the time of nabi(saw). And sahaba were sufis.

I like the part where he said, he wish the word sufism wasn't invented, his life would have been easier.
I use to think that too.
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Empiree: 11:22pm On Jan 27, 2018
emekaRaj:


I like the part where he said, he wish the word sufism wasn't invented, his life would have been easier.
I use to think that too.
I said that to these brothers many times but they just dont understand. The word is just invention just like hospitals in the 60s, compared to 21st century, many names of things have changed. Like say, generic name for Tylenol is Acetaminophen. Acetaminophen still refers to Tylenol just like Ihsan means tasawwuf (sufism). My question is, why do these brothers failed to understand?. They tired me sad undecided
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Singapore1(m): 9:40am On Jan 28, 2018
Empiree:
Yes, muslims trying hard to ignore this fact. I have said here time and again the implication of abandoning Islamic spirituality or ihsan. Sheikh Imran Hosein better explains Islamic spirituality in all of his lectures. There are forces amongst the muslims who are trying harder everyday to bury Islamic spirituality or take it out of Islam. Islamic spirituality is what is termed "sufism" and it is in the Qur'an.

Unfortunately, we also have some people who are in fact deviated from Islamic spirituality as we know it and have adopted shayateen spiritual path. Islamic spirituality also known as mysticism in Islam, is now seen as outlandish practices. If you noticed, i have always talked about it but some ulama reject the idea of it probably because of some people misapplication of it. That's not excuse by the way.

Yes, Shaytan and his men are working tirelessly to divide muslims while muslims are busy eating kuli kuli. Right now, they are inventing another currency which i and some muslims have known beforehand. This currency (bitcoin) is meant to enslave people just like paper money. Brace for worse. A brother once said in a thread last year that "when we(northern nigeria) used to do dhikr together, there was nothing like BH. But the moment we abandoned it, BH and all types of vices crept in." There are indeed a lot going on in spiritual realm. We are so headless




SMH

According to our understanding, Bitcoins are Zakatable. One may pay 2.5% of his Bitcoin holdings as Zakat or alternatively, pay 2.5% Zakat in one’s domestic currency equivalent to the value of 2.5% of one’s Bitcoin holdings.

The Fiqh (jurisprudence of the answer):

Bitcoins are Zakatable as they are Māl (entity), have Taqawwum (Islamic legal value) and are in the ruling of a currency (Thamaniyyah).

Does a currency have to have alternative utility besides a medium of exchange? Mufti Taqi Uthmani clearly states that “Money has no intrinsic utility, it is only a medium of exchange” (An Introduction to Islamic Finance). If something is adopted as a currency which has other utilities, the other utilities are not considered when exchanging this currency for another currency – the other utilities are considered ma’dūm (non-existent).

For anything to be considered as Māl, it must have desirability and storability. Bitcoin possesses features which gives it desirability. For example, the blockchain technology behind Bitcoin, the replacement of trusted party intermediations with the proof-of-work protocol, decentralisation, limited supply and borderless payments with less transactional fees make Bitcoin desirable (some of these features are diminishing). This has resulted in a demand for Bitcoin. In respect to storability, Bitcoins are encoded within the blockchain and are entries on a public ledger. Your ownership is reflected by your Bitcoin address being credited with a balance. Considering that Bitcoins are merely digits and entries on a public ledger, there is no evidence or premise indicating to them being unlawful. Hence, Bitcoins have Taqawwum. In terms of Thamaniyyah, Bitcoin was created as peer to peer payment systems. As a result, they are established as currencies

It can be argued that Bitcoin was launched as media of exchanges and as currencies. They are introduced as currencies and are usable as currencies. The blockchain provides a system for this currency. The fact that people are using them as investments does not negate their currency feature. It just gives them similarity to investing in foreign currencies. Indeed, Bitcoin has features which make them unique. If in future they ceased to be used as a medium of exchange and nor was there any speculative increase in their price, would Bitcoin hold any value among people? Would people have Tamawwul of Bitcoin and use of them? Bitcoin would be meaningless digits. Therefore, at present, they have some monetary use and people have assigned ‘a value’ to these Bitcoins. A ‘value’ is envisaged by the people as they purchase, sell, accept and exchange the form of Bitcoins for the underpinning notional value. The value of things can be manipulated, exploited and speculated. These are external issues which require regulation and control.

The philosophy of value has to also be reconsidered. The technological developments in the last century have reshaped and redefined our way of life. For example, value is represented today by mere digits on a bank app which are backed by the government. Society gives value to digits displayed in their bank balances because of the system and acceptability of these digits among people. If an alternative system was created which gave a certain degree of trust, security, ease of use and similar features, why can’t the digits on that system be considered to be digits representing value? A system which is acceptable among people is sufficient to establish a currency in Shariah.

Value is a concept; something people have social concurrence on. Value is something which attracts Mayl (inclination). This value is a meaning, a notion underpinning cryptocurrency digits. The value in Bitcoin is there due to the practices and inclinations of the people. The digits shown as a balance in digital wallets and on the public ledgers represent a value in the minds of people. People have an economic inclination to it and have economic benefit from these Bitcoin. There is no other tangible gain from Bitcoin. Thus, the most plausible interpretation (Takyīf) seems to be that Bitcoin is a currency. All other issues with regards to volatility, laundering, black markets etc. are all external matters which need controls and regulation to address them.

And Allah Alone Knows Best

Mufti Faraz Adam
Re: Islam And Spirituality by dultmax(m): 10:03am On Jan 28, 2018
Lets start with the levels of being.

The first path to spirituality is knowing who we really are physically and spiritually. In a Hadith Qudsii, Allah says, Know ME, search for knowledge about ME before you worship Me. How can he who does not know Me worship ME?

This means that we really need to know who we are, the purpose of our creation, Who Allah is, why do we need to worship Allah.

Allah says in Quran 61 vs 8 that "They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with (the breath of) their mouths. But Allah will perfect His light even though the disbelievers consider it hard.
Also in Quran 49 vs 6, Allah says " O you who believe! If a wicked person brings you any important news, examine it carefully, lest you should harm some people in ignorance and afterwards you my have to repent for what you did.

In sufis science, here are the seven levels of beings.

1- Nafsi Ammara

In this first level of the development of man, the rational self and human conscience have been defeated by lust and carnal desires. At this stage, our self does not recognize any rational or moral barriers to get what it wants. It expresses itself in selfishness, arrogance, ambition, stinginess, envy, anger, cynicism, laziness and stupidity. Originally, nafs, ones self, identity, ones own personality and reality, is one of the Creator’s gifts to man. But because we allow it to lean towards material values, to take pleasure only in worldly life, and because we succumb to fleshly lusts, it has turned ugly and become almost animal-like, while its shape remains that of a human being. It is a fauve camouflaged in the appearance of man, a mad wild animal which bites and claws itself as well as others. This ego is our private devil, our worst enemy, who is living inside us, dominating and tyrannizing us and keeping our human soul imprisoned and forgotten in the depths of our subconscious. If we are fortunate enough to be led by a guide to seek a better state, then the devil whispers in our ear: “What business do you have to be on this path? Don’t you see that everyone who was on this Path sooner or later died? All that remains of them is a few words. I know that you want the Truth, but where are the wise ones who would be able to teach you anything? Show me a single saintly man who receives revelations, who can show miracles! They belonged to another time. Now is the time of facts, of science, of prosperity, and the good life. If you want to be religious – all right! Go to the mosque, pray, fast, and pray that the spirits of these holy men of the past help you, for there is no teacher alive worth your while!”

Thus the devil hides the truth. Kufr, infidelity, means covering, hiding in Arabic ( coffer in english). Kafir, the infidel, means the one who hides something. The devil conceals the fact that at all times there are perfect men in the world and worthy teachers who can lead one to salvation.

Our Master, The Messenger of Allah (saws), has two aspects. One is his prophethood, hubuwwa; the other is his sainthood, his friendship, closeness to Allah, or walaya. He is Hatemul Enbiya: the last, the Seal of Prophethood, but his other aspect of sainthood has always been and will always be inherited by perfect men, who love and imitate him, and they will exist at all times, until the end of time.

But if the seeker pays any attention to the insinuations of the devil, he suffers doubt about his teacher, he is called away from the Path, his efforts are slowed down, and he will lend his ear to the whispers of the accursed devil again. This time he will say, “Allah is forgiving, count on His Mercy; He does not dislike people who do things which He permits. Be kind to yourself and don’t tyrannize yourself. If you are kind towards your ego and give it things it wants, then it will obey you!” If the seeker is fooled by these temptations, he will start having doubts; he will then be unclear as to whether things are lawful or unlawful, whether they are right or wrong. When that happens, he is more likely to opt for the unlawful, since it is usually more pleasing to the senses. And the more his senses are satisfied, the more his heart will be blinded and hardened, and the more he will be led towards evil.

On the level of the evil commanding ego, all these influences are very heavy. To get out from under them, someone strong has to hold you by your hand and extricate you. It is very difficult if not impossible to do it by yourself.

But through Allah’s help, you may hear the voice of reason which says, “To do what Allah permits one to do out of His Mercy, instead of doing that which He orders us to do, is the profession of creatures who are lazy.” For the true servants of Allah, it is an obligation to live according to the rules of Shariat and the ideals of the Tariqat.

And if we either follow this rational decision, which is an undeserved gift of Allah Most High, or we are rescued from our misery by a strong teacher, then we may rise to the second level of Nafsi Lawwama. Thus the soul is pulled out from the dark dungeon of the ego to the light of conscience, and we will see our arrogance being transformed into humility, vengefulness and hate into love, anger into kindness, lust into chastity. . . If Allah so wills.

I will continue with the second level of being.

May Allah (SWT) lead us to the right path till we reach the goal.

Amin

emekaRaj:


Good idea..... Exactly Wat I think too... Why don't we continue it on this thread I think this is a good topic to start d discussion
Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 11:19am On Jan 28, 2018
@ dultmax Nice write up.... Am familiar with this first stage, I think it's one of the hardest part in all the stages, once u are able to overcome ur worldly desires u are on d right journey.

I noticed that even though am naturally strong spiritually, wen I follow this step I become stronger more guided and purposeful in my spiritual journey.

May Allah guide us all

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Re: Islam And Spirituality by Fundamentalist: 12:18pm On Jan 28, 2018
I carry my chair come Sidon dey look empiree and emekaraj

No comment for now
Re: Islam And Spirituality by Empiree: 3:53pm On Jan 28, 2018
Fundamentalist:

I carry my chair come Sidon dey look empiree and emekaraj

No comment for now
this thread is not meant for you afterall
Re: Islam And Spirituality by emekaRaj(m): 4:49pm On Jan 28, 2018
Fundamentalist:

I carry my chair come Sidon dey look empiree and emekaraj

No comment for now

Sit down comfortably an read, with positive mind tho. But if u come with negativity. U won't understand

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