hahaha your comment is so paradoxical. Are you being apologetic or compunctious? You started the blame situation here and I am only calling you out on what you have been posting here on Nairaland for 3 years in a row, unhinged.

You have an obligation to respond to my question because you called me a cultist. So tell me if cultists are known to exhume dead bodies, prosecute and sentence them. I need to know if cultists castrate little boys.

These and more are pungent questions that I need you to answer, Judge Haryrapunzel.

Hairyrapunzel:

Why will you ask me a question not related to cult criteria or non jws being very good people. You must be silly to think you can coerce me to answer your question.
Am I your slave that you think you can give commands to me? Are you high?
I made two statements
1. I said non jws are good people too.
2. I talked Extensively about Bite model in identifying cults.
And I never said they where in the Bible.

Don't come here to force me to answer your question. I owe you no explanation for anything.
Because You want to talk about flaws in catholic doctrines, you ask me stupid questions. Your doctrines that are all lies you try to justify them. Always pointing accusing fingers. Your religion is a cult.

What Bible command allows Christians to exhume, prosecuted and sentenced dead bodies?

Hairyrapunzel:

Which simple bible question again?

removetheturban:
What Bible command allows Christians to exhume, prosecuted and sentenced dead bodies?

Jws always formulate questions and force you to answer. You will keep whining till your new system comes

removetheturban:
hahaha your comment is so paradoxical. Are you being apologetic or compunctious? You started the blame situation here and I am only calling you out on what you have been posting here on Nairaland for 3 years in a row, unhinged.

You have an obligation to respond to my question because you called me a cultist. So tell me if cultists are known to exhume dead bodies, prosecute and sentence them. I need to know if cultists castrate little boys.

These and more are pungent questions that I need you to answer, Judge Haryrapunzel.

Started which blame? Are you high? For saying non Jws are very good people too and for giving you reasons why I say your religion is a cult is called blame?

You are being too desperate in trying to cover the behavior of your cult. Keep whining. Always pointing out the flaws in other religion's doctrines yet your own is made up of lies
You belong to a cult deal with it and stop throwing tantrums.

removetheturban:
Sir, take it to the sky and the deep, you can't answer that question and that is a fact. You are ill-equipped to and you cannot even dare. Because you will end up exposing your own faith. In Nigeria, you and I know that sort of activities are only done by cultists. Is the JW known for it? We can make side by side comparison if you choose. You know what group has the longest list.

Second question, what Bible command directs Christians to castrate little boys?

Ghen Ghen. Another cover up o. The desperation is real mehn. Buhaha. I no fit laugh. When you finish asking all your questions look at the bite model and see the reason your religion is a cult.

See well equipped human o. He wants to change topic sharp sharp so people don't see his devastated state as he found out what he lives for is a cult.
Do research work on what a cult is. You are just too narrow minded and also a stark illiterate to know that a cult can cause damage to physical, mental or social state individually or all combined.

Since you only watch Nigerian movies depiction of cults, good for you.
You need to Google cult read about it and understand what it's all about.
It's only in Nigerian or African movies they portray cults as what you just described.
See what avoiding independent /critical thinking causes? You dont have sense to think properly.

removetheturban:
Sir, take it to the sky and the deep, you can't answer that question and that is a fact. You are ill-equipped to and you cannot even dare. Because you will end up exposing your own faith. In Nigeria, you and I know that sort of activities are only done by cultists. Is the JW known for it? We can make side by side comparison if you choose. You know what group has the longest list.

Second question, what Bible command directs Christians to castrate little boys?

See what watching only African magic causes? When you are afraid that watching foreign programmes will cause you to stumble and make you think independently, you tend to become extremely narrow minded. African magic baba

I am not a fan of African Magic. Do not have that on my range of favorites. But I know what deflection is and I will not fall for that. My question to you will be reposted here and all I need is an answer. What Bible command directs Christians to castrate little boys?

Hairyrapunzel:

See what watching only African magic causes? When you are afraid that watching foreign programmes will cause you to stumble and make you think independently, you tend to become extremely narrow minded. African magic baba

You wish! I narrowed it down to your scope because your IQ is to low to handle the real deal. I deal with issues squarely and if you want to have a ride, you are welcome. I accept to be illiterate but I do not accept that a literate cannot give an answer to an illiterate. What is the value of your education when you cannot answer a single question posed by an illiterate?

I will carry the question forward. What Bible command allows dead bodies to be exhumed, prosecuted and sentenced?

Hairyrapunzel:


Ghen Ghen. Another cover up o. The desperation is real mehn. Buhaha. I no fit laugh. When you finish asking all your questions look at the bite model and see the reason your religion is a cult.

See well equipped human o. He wants to change topic sharp sharp so people don't see his devastated state as he found out what he lives for is a cult.
Do research work on what a cult is. You are just too narrow minded and also a stark illiterate to know that a cult can cause damage to physical, mental or social state individually or all combined.

Since you only watch Nigerian movies depiction of cults, good for you.
You need to Google cult read about it and understand what it's all about.
It's only in Nigerian or African movies they portray cults as what you just described.
See what avoiding independent /critical thinking causes? You dont have sense to think properly.

You have said that a million times before and it does not bother me. You could have gone around posting nonsense and I wouldn't respond but for trying to hush the JW online by series of attacks, you cannot do that to me. I will drag you from the right to the left because freedom of speech is everyone's right.

For 3 Calendar years, you have been attacking the JW constantly on Nairaland. It shows that you are obsessed and delusional. https://www.nairaland.com/hairyrapunzel/posts/35 The emboldened is your very first post back in 2016. You have had your fill with these series of attacks. You have blasphemed, insulted and smeared us with no one calling you out. Everyone just ignored you while you copy and paste from anti-JW blogs. You do not even read what you post here. The most parts of your comments are full-page bigoted criticism and insults thrown at the JW. Sir, you are so insane and wicked. You are doing exactly what the scribes did to Jesus. They kept stalking Jesus just to find him faulty.

You are a Catholic and you lied to be a Jehovah's Witness. That is how low you could go to blaspheme. Your hate has eaten you up and you cannot help it anymore. You are guided by a demonic spirit. You dedicated 3 straight years of your life just focusing on bringing the Jehovah's Witnesses down. The same internet has the receipts on all the posts that you have made and all your topics. You are up to no good.

Any sincere mind can look your account up to verify if I am honest. You opened this account in the bid to lance a revenge course against the JW. You took matters into your hands and you went really far.

You cannot give answers to any question posed to you. You want all questions to varnish while you keep on the prowl.

Mathew 12:34 Offspring of vipers, how can you speak good things when you are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things.

Hairyrapunzel:

Started which blame? Are you high? For saying non Jws are very good people too and for giving you reasons why I say your religion is a cult is called blame?

You are being too desperate in trying to cover the behavior of your cult. Keep whining. Always pointing out the flaws in other religion's doctrines yet your own is made up of lies
You belong to a cult deal with it and stop throwing tantrums.

You have been pounding me with series of questions and I have given so many answers to you. The history of our chats is online so you cannot lie or act a victim here. You are insidious. Not just insidious but you are not in control of yourself. A demonic spirit has taken over you. No normal person can dedicate 3 years of his life just attacking a particular organization and its members. What motivated you in the first place? Feel free to share

And, this is a public forum fyi. No one is exempted from being asked questions. From your very first post here on Nairaland you have been attacking the JW https://www.nairaland.com/hairyrapunzel/posts/35 . So, why should you complain when you are asked a question? When you attack someone, you should be ready with your reasons.

Hairyrapunzel:


Jws always formulate questions and force you to answer. You will keep whining till your new system comes

removetheturban:
You need to define it because you hide behind an anonymous spirit to blaspheme. Man up! You are a Catholic and if you have anything to share, share it using the Bible. Catholics have doctrines that many Christians would need explanations for. Can you tell us, please? Did Hitler(a staunch Catholic) act upon whose direction to massacre the Jews and the Jehovah's Witnesses? Why would you not want the name of Hitler to disappear? He was a Catholic. You keep bringing up our articles of 1920ies and you want Hitler of 1940ies to varnish? Listen! We are tired of copy and paste here. Let originality ride for a moment. You keep avoiding all questions that you are asked but you feel you alone reserve the right to spill dust.

I am not always attacking you and if anyone cares to find out they can click on our pseudonyms to see that you and I have a history in other threads on Nairaland. You have been on Nairaland since 2016 attacking the JW. Have you no engagements in life? Where does this campaign lead you? You have copied and pasted too much, Sir. Come out let us have a conversation like Christians should, using the Bible. It is called a forum for a reason. Here is not a place to start a spiritual pandemonium and then dodge questions like Matrix.

Hitler a staunch catholic? Dat is a lie sir

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany

As usual, these two friends of mine av derailed the topic.

Oh, cool to hear that. Do tell, what was Hitler's faith?

salvation101:
Hitler a staunch catholic? Dat is a lie sir

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany

Well, I didn't mean to but these frequent attacks on any JW who comments online have to be controlled. If the owner of the site rebuffs comments from the JW, we would leave peacefully.

Let me crown the clown for a while.

salvation101:
As usual, these two friends of mine av derailed the topic.

removetheturban:
Oh, cool to hear that. Do tell, what was Hitler's faith?

he was born in a Christian home but he was more of an agnostic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler.. Do u consider someone who backsided from your religion to still be a staunch proponent of ur religion? Would a staunch jw member target Jw members for mass killings? U answer is as good as mine

removetheturban:
Well, I didn't mean to but these frequent attacks on any JW who comments online have to be controlled. If the owner of the site rebuffs comments from the JW, we would leave peacefully.

Let me crown the clown for a while.

well, if u av noticed, this forum is out to make ridicule of the Christian faith. Just last week a derogatory post about islam got to frontpage but before i could say jack Robinson, the admins hid it but on a daily basis dey promote anti Christian topics.. The easiest way to get ur topic to frontpage today is by creating an anti Christian topic.. Its not just about JWs, anything Christian here is getting attacked but am glad ppl r standing up to defend their faith now

Oh, yeah! I noticed that and we have talked about this before, I remember. I guess the owner of this website is a Muslim.

salvation101:
well, if u av noticed, this forum is out to make ridicule of the Christian faith. Just last week a derogatory post about islam got to frontpage but before i could say jack Robinson, the admins hid it but on a daily basis dey promote anti Christian topics.. The easiest way to get ur topic to frontpage today is by creating an anti Christian topic.. Its not just about JWs, anything Christian here is getting attacked but am glad ppl r standing up to defend their faith now

removetheturban:
You wish! I narrowed it down to your scope because your IQ is to low to handle the real deal. I deal with issues squarely and if you want to have a ride, you are welcome. I accept to be illiterate but I do not accept that a literate cannot give an answer to an illiterate. What is the value of your education when you cannot answer a single question posed by an illiterate?

I will carry the question forward. What Bible command allows dead bodies to be exhumed, prosecuted and sentenced?

African magic watcher. You don't even know what a cult is. Mtchewww.

Well, if we go back in our conversation history, you accepted Haryrapunzel's theory of the JW (knowing that he WAS NOT a JW yet you accepted). You inquired if HE WAS a JW and he lied that he WAS. Let me throw the same question back at you, at the time that he told you stuff about us, did you consider the information to be from a proponent of the JW? It was accepted and established. You could have unheld the pedal and say, "hey, you are not a proponent of this faith! How can I accept anything that you say about them to be true". That is the way this logic works, I guess.

Judas is mentioned as one of the apostles of Jesus Christ and you cannot take that away from him. Even though he slipped away from the faith, the record stays green. He is still referred to as one of the 12 who WERE called Jesus aspostles. The tense WAS is for a period of time. I can say, 'I WAS a Catholic" and that is the fact. Abacha WAS the president of Nigeria. You cannot take that away. That is how language works.

Hitler WAS raised a Catholic and he LIVED that way for the major part of his life. He lived the most of his life by Catholic values. He died at 56 years and he was a leader for 12 years. At the start of his regime he was surrounded by Catholics. The make up of the Nazis was majorly Catholic. The elites shared the same religious view. The relationship he had with SOME Catholic religious leaders got sour 3 years into his reign in power. If you do the math, he was 44 years when he became a chancellor then 45 years as president. He was about 47 when he had the kerffufle with SOME clergymen and that was 9 years to his death.

I cannot dwell much on the remaining 6 years of his egregious political leadership but for almost 50 years, he was a staunch Catholic and he never gave up those values. Moreover, saying that he was a Gnostic is a polish to a dead soldier's boots. That is a twisted tale for blitzed folks. He was buried as a Catholic and by Catholics.

Do not disassociate people from their inner selves because they ended up badly. Certain aspects of history are engraved too deep for mortals to erase.

salvation101:
he was born in a Christian home but he was more of an agnostic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler.. Do u consider someone who backsided from your religion to still be a staunch proponent of ur religion? Would a staunch jw member target Jw members for mass killings? U answer is as good as mine

Why not explain that to me. Can we proceed?

Hairyrapunzel:

African magic watcher. You don't even know what a cult is. Mtchewww.

removetheturban:
Why not explain that to me. Can we proceed?

Read it up by yourself

removetheturban:
Well, if we go back in our conversation history, you accepted Haryrapunzel's theory of the JW (knowing that he WAS NOT a JW yet you accepted). You inquired if HE WAS a JW and he lied that he WAS. Let me throw the same question back at you, at the time that he told you stuff about us, did you consider the information to be from a proponent of the JW? It was accepted and established. You could have unheld the pedal and say, "hey, you are not a proponent of this faith! How can I accept anything that you say about them to be true". That is the way this logic works, I guess.

Judas is mentioned as one of the apostles of Jesus Christ and you cannot take that away from him. Even though he slipped away from the faith, the record stays green. He is still referred to as one of the 12 who WERE called Jesus aspostles. The tense WAS is for a period of time. I can say, 'I WAS a Catholic" and that is the fact. Abacha WAS the president of Nigeria. You cannot take that away. That is how language works.

Hitler WAS raised a Catholic and he LIVED that way for the major part of his life. He lived the most of his life by Catholic values. He died at 56 years and he was a leader for 12 years. At the start of his regime he was surrounded by Catholics. The make up of the Nazis was majorly Catholic. The elites shared the same religious view. The relationship he had with SOME Catholic religious leaders got sour 3 years into his reign in power. If you do the math, he was 44 years when he became a chancellor then 45 years as president. He was about 47 when he had the kerffufle with SOME clergymen and that was 9 years to his death.

I cannot dwell much on the remaining 6 years of his egregious political leadership but for almost 50 years, he was a staunch Catholic and he never gave up those values. Moreover, saying that he was a Gnostic is a polish to a dead soldier's boots. That is a twisted tale for blitzed folks. He was buried as a Catholic and by Catholics.

Do not disassociate people from their inner selves because they ended up badly. Certain aspects of history are engraved too deep for mortals to erase.

Well am yet to see anywhere Hairyrapunzel claimed to be a proponent of Jw, rather he has been against it. He said he was a former member who obviously didn't agree with ur doctrines so does attacking ur doctrines equate him being a proponent? U defy logic and sound doctrinal teaching for the second time by saying Judas iscariot is an Apostle even when Jesus regarded him as the son of perdition and the Apostles held and election to replace him. Wat is the difference between being a disciple and being an Apostle? U don't seem to know d difference.

Going by ur logic, would you consider disfellowshiped or backsliden Jws as Staunch Jws? Are u also going to attest to the articles on their several blogs as Jws approved? U av to be very honest here

removetheturban:
Well, if we go back in our conversation history, you accepted Haryrapunzel's theory of the JW (knowing that he WAS NOT a JW yet you accepted). You inquired if HE WAS a JW and he lied that he WAS. Let me throw the same question back at you, at the time that he told you stuff about us, did you consider the information to be from a proponent of the JW? It was accepted and established. You could have unheld the pedal and say, "hey, you are not a proponent of this faith! How can I accept anything that you say about them to be true". That is the way this logic works, I guess.

Judas is mentioned as one of the apostles of Jesus Christ and you cannot take that away from him. Even though he slipped away from the faith, the record stays green. He is still referred to as one of the 12 who WERE called Jesus aspostles. The tense WAS is for a period of time. I can say, 'I WAS a Catholic" and that is the fact. Abacha WAS the president of Nigeria. You cannot take that away. That is how language works.

Hitler WAS raised a Catholic and he LIVED that way for the major part of his life. He lived the most of his life by Catholic values. He died at 56 years and he was a leader for 12 years. At the start of his regime he was surrounded by Catholics. The make up of the Nazis was majorly Catholic. The elites shared the same religious view. The relationship he had with SOME Catholic religious leaders got sour 3 years into his reign in power. If you do the math, he was 44 years when he became a chancellor then 45 years as president. He was about 47 when he had the kerffufle with SOME clergymen and that was 9 years to his death.

I cannot dwell much on the remaining 6 years of his egregious political leadership but for almost 50 years, he was a staunch Catholic and he never gave up those values. Moreover, saying that he was a Gnostic is a polish to a dead soldier's boots. That is a twisted tale for blitzed folks. He was buried as a Catholic and by Catholics.

Do not disassociate people from their inner selves because they ended up badly. Certain aspects of history are engraved too deep for mortals to erase.

Just to discredit the Catholic church again. You just say anything. Mother Theresa was a Catholic too. She was a very good person

removetheturban:
We do not owe you answers. We do not answer to you either. We have been given an assignment by Jesus and that is what we do. The whole world knows us for obeying the command that Jesus gave, to preach. I should provide answers to 'IF A JW CAN MARRY A JW'? Isn't that a joke?

So you believed Jesus is the one who gave you people assignment.

If I'm not mistaken, the assignment is when Jesus said "...you shall be MY WITNESS..."

But how come you people are Jehovah Witness and NOT Jesus Witness? OR does Jehovah and Jesus the same entity?

Good analysis. When you read your Bible, was Judas' name erased? No! The record says that he WAS an apostle. When we talk about apostates, the record says that they were once JW. So, saying that someone WAS something signifies the obvious. At a point in time a certain action took place. Are we dragging an elementary simple past tense? It is an action done in the past; it happened sometime in the past. He was a Catholic; he was an Apostle etc sometime in the past; before now. It is clear and precise to me. There is no better English tense to use here, you can only add adverbs or time indicators.

Jude 1:6 KJB And THE ANGELS which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The above were still referred to as angels, not demons and there was no adjective to qualify angel, but an added phrase.

James 2:25 Rehab WAS still referred to as a prostitute. Not that she remained a prostitute all her life but at a certain period of her life she WAS.

Jesus was said to have COME out of Egypt, not that he was Egyptian or remained in Egypt but at a point in his life, he was in Egpyt.

Matthew is referred to as a Tax collector. Not that he remained a Tax collector but at a time he WAS a Tax collector. Till date, some people still call him Matthew the Tax collector.

Thomas is called doubting-Thomas, not that he doubted all his life, but on that particular ocassion he WAS a doubter.

So, how am I being illogical if I referred to Judas as one of the 12 when we can both read it in the Bible?

How can I attest to articles written by ex-JW, that is a joke. The fact simply remains that they WERE JW, that is simple.


As for your question of the difference between an apostle and disciple, it is clear that the apostles were all disciples of Christ. All of them fall under being disciples of Christ. Nevertheless, the apostles were the 12 chosen By Jesus and they are the ones that he gave the commission to lead the flock. The ones through which he channeled his teachings.Moreover, Paul was also given similar assignment to people of the nation and he was thus appointed as an apostle by Jesus himself.

As it goes, Jesus himself is equally an apostle because he was sent forth by Jehovah God.

salvation101:

Well am yet to see anywhere Hairyrapunzel claimed to be a proponent of Jw, rather he has been against it. He said he was a former member who obviously didn't agree with ur doctrines so does attacking ur doctrines equate him being a proponent? U defy logic and sound doctrinal teaching for the second time by saying Judas iscariot is an Apostle even when Jesus regarded him as the son of perdition and the Apostles held and election to replace him. Wat is the difference between being a disciple and being an Apostle? U don't seem to know d difference.

Going by ur logic, would you consider disfellowshiped or backsliden Jws as Staunch Jws? Are u also going to attest to the articles on their several blogs as Jws approved? U av to be very honest here

Emusan:

So you believed Jesus is the one who gave you people assignment.

If I'm not mistaken, the assignment is when Jesus said "...you shall be MY WITNESS..."

But how come you people are Jehovah Witness and NOT Jesus Witness? OR does Jehovah and Jesus the same entity?

I think that you are mistaken. Redact and revert!

removetheturban:
Good analysis. When you read your Bible, was Judas' name erased? No! The record says that he WAS an apostle. When we talk about apostates, the record says that they were once JW. So, saying that someone WAS something signifies the obvious. At a point in time a certain action took place. Are we dragging an elementary simple past tense? It is an action done in the past; it happened sometime in the past. He was a Catholic; he was an Apostle etc sometime in the past; before now. It is clear and precise to me. There is no better English tense to use here, you can only add adverbs or time indicators.

Jude 1:6 KJB And THE ANGELS which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The above were still referred to as angels, not demons and there was no adjective to qualify angel, but an added phrase.

James 2:25 Rehab WAS still referred to as a prostitute. Not that she remained a prostitute all her life but at a certain period of her life she WAS.

Jesus was said to have COME out of Egypt, not that he was Egyptian or remained in Egypt but at a point in his life, he was in Egpyt.

Matthew is referred to as a Tax collector. Not that he remained a Tax collector but at a time he WAS a Tax collector. Till date, some people still call him Matthew the Tax collector.

Thomas is called doubting-Thomas, not that he doubted all his life, but on that particular ocassion he WAS a doubter.

So, how am I being illogical if I referred to Judas as one of the 12 when we can both read it in the Bible?

How can I attest to articles written by ex-JW, that is a joke. The fact simply remains that they WERE JW, that is simple.


As for your question of the difference between an apostle and disciple, it is clear that the apostles were all disciples of Christ. All of them fall under being disciples of Christ. Nevertheless, the apostles were the 12 chosen By Jesus and they are the ones that he gave the commission to lead the flock. The ones through which he channeled his teachings.Moreover, Paul was also given similar assignment to people of the nation and he was thus appointed as an apostle by Jesus himself.

As it goes, Jesus himself is equally an apostle because he was sent forth by Jehovah God.

Ok. Are we safe to now say that those bloggers that you call apostates are Jw?
Paul d Apostle was never a disciple of Jesus instead he was a disciple of Gamaliel. Can we still refer to him as a disciple of Gamaliel? Jesus said as long as you continue in my teaching, then are you my disciples. Its conditional. Jesus had many other disciples, we heard of 70, we heard of 120 were they all Apostles? Was Luke an Apostle?
If a sinner get cleaned from his sin by God, do u still call him a sinner? U also once told me you were catholic before becoming a witness, am i safe to still call you a catholic

removetheturban:
Well, if we go back in our conversation history, you accepted Haryrapunzel's theory of the JW (knowing that he WAS NOT a JW yet you accepted). You inquired if HE WAS a JW and he lied that he WAS. Let me throw the same question back at you, at the time that he told you stuff about us, did you consider the information to be from a proponent of the JW? It was accepted and established. You could have unheld the pedal and say, "hey, you are not a proponent of this faith! How can I accept anything that you say about them to be true". That is the way this logic works, I guess.

Judas is mentioned as one of the apostles of Jesus Christ and you cannot take that away from him. Even though he slipped away from the faith, the record stays green. He is still referred to as one of the 12 who WERE called Jesus aspostles. The tense WAS is for a period of time. I can say, 'I WAS a Catholic" and that is the fact. Abacha WAS the president of Nigeria. You cannot take that away. That is how language works.

Hitler WAS raised a Catholic and he LIVED that way for the major part of his life. He lived the most of his life by Catholic values. He died at 56 years and he was a leader for 12 years. At the start of his regime he was surrounded by Catholics. The make up of the Nazis was majorly Catholic. The elites shared the same religious view. The relationship he had with SOME Catholic religious leaders got sour 3 years into his reign in power. If you do the math, he was 44 years when he became a chancellor then 45 years as president. He was about 47 when he had the kerffufle with SOME clergymen and that was 9 years to his death.

I cannot dwell much on the remaining 6 years of his egregious political leadership but for almost 50 years, he was a staunch Catholic and he never gave up those values. Moreover, saying that he was a Gnostic is a polish to a dead soldier's boots. That is a twisted tale for blitzed folks. He was buried as a Catholic and by Catholics.

Do not disassociate people from their inner selves because they ended up badly. Certain aspects of history are engraved too deep for mortals to erase.

Mother Theresa was born and died a catholic.
Even your story says that there was commotion between Hitler and catholic priests.
If the catholics buried Hitler it shows there is unconditional love there. They had issues in life but chose to put aside those issues and forgive him.
Don't try to tie catholic and Hitler together. That's deceitful and inhumane.
You are being crafty with words.
Hitler was born a catholic and was buried by catholic church it does not mean the catholic church or catholic priests ever supported Hitler killing Jews.

Hitler was born a catholic and later in life quarreled with catholic priests until he died and catholic church decided to bury him. He was a very bad man

Mother Theresa was born a catholic, was in good standing with catholic church and priests all through her lifetime and the catholic church buried her. She was a very good person.

(Two different people, different times in life, different location but the same church.
BTW do you know Rutherford praised Hitler for killing jews?)


That your logic of Hitler being a catholic therefore the catholic church is bad is a hasty generalization (fallacy) and that idea shows you still reason like a kindergarten pupil.

The thing missing here is that you are overlooking the grammar and capturing the entire picture. I used WAS which is a tense used to indicate an action in the past. It might not continue to be but that tense is legal to indicate an action that took place at a point in time in the past. I gave you examples just as the scriptures used it. Nigeria WAS British colony; Jesus WAS on earth; Judas WAS an Apostle; Rehab WAS a prostitute; Hitler WAS a Catholic; I WAS a Catholic; A Sinner who has been cleaned WAS a sinner; The blind man that Jesus healed WAS blind; You WERE a student; Jonathan WAS a President; ex-JW WERE JW etc. All these are legal in English. They are not conditional because these actions certainly happened in the past. Conditional tenses are used for uncertainties or speculations of what might or could or would happen/ have happened/have been happening etc.

Luke was not an Apostle and the 120 were not Apostles. Luke wasn't even an eyewitness to the works that he wrote in his book. The Apostles, 120, 70 or what have you are all grouped as disciples.

You can say that Paul who WAS at the time Saul wasn't a disciple of Christ. He WAS a murderer of the holy ones. He wasn't the only one, even some of Jesus' Apostles WERE John's disciples.

salvation101:

Ok. Are we safe to now say that those bloggers that you call apostates are Jw?
Paul d Apostle was never a disciple of Jesus instead he was a disciple of Gamaliel. Can we still refer to him as a disciple of Gamaliel? Jesus said as long as you continue in my teaching, then are you my disciples. Its conditional. Jesus had many other disciples, we heard of 70, we heard of 120 were they all Apostles? Was Luke an Apostle?
If a sinner get cleaned from his sin by God, do u still call him a sinner? U also once told me you were catholic before becoming a witness, am i safe to still call you a catholic

fineboynl:

can you marry a Jehovah witness? and is it even possible to marry a Jehovah witness if you are not one of them? will a Jehovah witness agrees to marries non Jehovah witness?

Marry from your faith. Why will you marry someone who you don't have the same faith. This is not about love, faith and religion is at stake her. Drink from your own cistern.

Hairyrapunzel:

Mother Theresa was born and died a catholic.

How is mother Theresa my business?

Hairyrapunzel:

Even your story says that there was commotion between Hitler and catholic priests.
If the catholics buried Hitler it shows there is unconditional love there. They had issues in life but chose to put aside those issues and forgive him.

He did not have problems with ALL Catholics. He disagreed only with the few Catholic leaders who opposed him, NOT ALL. He never denounced his faith as a Catholic. He remained a Catholic until his death. I read all the painting and coloring you guys do online and I just giggle. The truth is indelible. I know how much you guys want to erase him from your good book and distance him from your religion. But we know where to find the historical records. You cannot erase even if you like edit all the Wikipedia, that is for people who are too lazy to study the main gigs. If I never told you that Catholics buried him you would have hidden that part from us. There are more to tell, but no need to wash your dirty boxers in the public. We got more important things to do.

Hairyrapunzel:

Don't try to tie catholic and Hitler together. That's deceitful and inhumane.

I am shocked that you are the same Hairyrapunzel grasping on to your last straw of life. Listen, Hitler is just a glass of water to a camel here. You don't know anything yet. If we begin to reel out details you will close this account. But that would be petty.

Hairyrapunzel:

You are being crafty with words.
Hitler was born a catholic and was buried by catholic church it does not mean the catholic church or catholic priests ever supported Hitler killing Jews.

Is that craftiness? How is telling a historical fact called craftiness? Show me a record of the Pope's condemnation of Hitler's egregious carnage. Would you love to see his condemnation of the attacks on Muslims?

Hairyrapunzel:

Hitler was born a catholic and later in life quarreled with catholic priests until he died and catholic church decided to bury him. He was a very bad man

quarreled with catholic priests?? OMG, what level of education did this literate attain? Well, now you know that he was a very bad man. Ludicrous! You can say this because Hitler is dead. If he remained alive would you have said this? We know what can be said about the dead. Can you give us your take on England or the Queen?

Hairyrapunzel:

Mother Theresa was born a catholic, was in good standing with catholic church and priests all through her lifetime and the catholic church buried her. She was a very good person.

(Two different people, different times in life, different location but the same church.
BTW do you know Rutherford praised Hitler for killing jews?)

Good for her and Y'all.

Hairyrapunzel:

That your logic of Hitler being a catholic therefore the catholic church is bad is a hasty generalization (fallacy) and that idea shows you still reason like a kindergarten pupil.

I hear you. I didn't generalize. I focused on you as a person, not the organization but you wanted to drag it and you are expanding the entire brouhaha. Bro, you have been on a 3-year unhinged rampage and I called you out for only 2 days and you are already throwing the black ball at me. If you feel uncomfortable reading your dirty secrets online, can you look in the mirror?

You have posted hundreds of nonsense about the JW and you feel justified about it. You do not sober or think before acting. Like I told you if you have scores to settle, bring it forth. JW do not come here to condemn religious organizations, we come to have Christian-like conversations. I am not after winning a prize here. We share and we learn.

And, lol you cannot hush me. I am not of that kidney to be dragged.

removetheturban:
The thing missing here is that you are overlooking the grammar and capturing the entire picture. I used WAS which is a tense used to indicate an action in the past. It might not continue to be but that tense is legal to indicate an action that took place at a point in time in the past. I gave you examples just as the scriptures used it. Nigeria WAS British colony; Jesus WAS on earth; Judas WAS an Apostle; Rehab WAS a prostitute; Hitler WAS a Catholic; I WAS a Catholic; A Sinner who has been cleaned WAS a sinner; The blind man that Jesus healed WAS blind; You WERE a student; Jonathan WAS a President; ex-JW WERE JW etc. All these are legal in English. They are not conditional because these actions certainly happened in the past. Conditional tenses are used for uncertainties or speculations of what might or could or would happen/ have happened/have been happening etc.

Luke was not an Apostle and the 120 were not Apostles. Luke wasn't even an eyewitness to the works that he wrote in his book. The Apostles, 120, 70 or what have you are all grouped as disciples.

You can say that Paul who WAS at the time Saul wasn't a disciple of Christ. He WAS a murderer of the holy ones. He wasn't the only one, even some of Jesus' Apostles WERE John's disciples.

ur "was" in the case of Hitler captures his entire life as the guy is no more. U couldn't av used "is". U said he was a staunch catholic, u even went ahead to say we shouldn't dissociate ppl from their past, in the same vein, U were also a catholic. Should we also not dissociate you from catholicism?