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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by frank317: 9:03pm On Feb 23, 2018
danvon:
Snakeman were not done here you didn't answer anything your just twisting out of your hole...simple question "How did we come into existence according to you" Atleast say that the world is computer simulation created by Machines... nope nothing

If atheists say humans are created by nothing and u say ur God was created by nothing why are making a fuss about it?
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Tollzara(m): 9:04pm On Feb 23, 2018
All these nincompoops whose brain cells have been mercilessly deformed by cold-blooded bible worms.

Does being an atheist make one an evolutionary biologist?

This is a question for biologists, not atheists. And I for one am not informed enough to pontificate carelessly on such topic.

Anyways, evolution is the central theme of Biology, has made sense of a lot of observations as pertaining to life and its processes, and is the theory that offers the best and most all-encompassing explanation for how life has come to be what it is today. It has explained a lot. That there are several details we're still ignorant of doesn't in anyway discredit or refute the theory.

OP, if you're so interested in this particular question, you can carry out some research and help provide the answer. Become an evolutionary biologist and contribute your own portion to the bulk of human knowledge.

Take note, however, that the answer to this question would have no bearing on my atheism, because I was already an atheist before accepting evolution as FACT. And I'm quite certain the same is true for a lot of other atheists. Yes, I'm telling you how irrelevant the question is to atheism.

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by liab: 9:05pm On Feb 23, 2018
mohemos:
If, as evolutionists have argued, there is a materialistic answer for everything, then these questions should be answered: 

How exactly did we arrive at two separate genders, each with its own physiology? 

Why sex? 

Is sex the product of a historical accident or the product of an intelligent Creator? 

Modified:

How could nature evolve a female member of a species that produces eggs and is internally equipped to nourish a growing embryo, while at the same time evolving a male member that produces motile sperm cells? And, further, how is it that these gametes (eggs and sperm) conveniently “evolved” so that they each contain half the normal chromosome number of somatic (body) cells?
dsame old shit been rebranded in different ways
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by frank317: 9:09pm On Feb 23, 2018
Tollzara:
All these nincompoops whose brain cells have been mercilessly deformed by cold-blooded bible worms.

Does being an atheist make one an evolutionary biologist?

This is a question for biologists, not atheists. And I for one am not informed enough to pontificate carelessly on such topic.

Anyways, evolution is the central theme of Biology, has made sense of a lot of observations as pertaining to life and its processes, and is the theory that offers the best and most all-encompassing explanation for how life came to be what it is today. It has explained a lot. That there are several details we're still ignorant of doesn't in anyway discredit or refute the theory.

OP, if you're so interested in this particular question, you can carry out some research and help provide the answer. Become a evolutionary biologist and contribute your own portion to the bulk of human knowledge.

Take note, however, that the answer to this question would have no bearing on my atheism, because I was already an atheist before accepting evolution as FACT. And I'm quite certain the same is true for a lot of other atheists. Yes, I'm telling you how irrelevant the question is to atheism.

One cant help wonder how these people reason. He called out atheists by asking them questions for biologists and evolutionists.

In their world, once u have no faith to believe in the exstence of an unproven being, u have automatically became a world renown scientist.

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 9:09pm On Feb 23, 2018
CoolUsername:


Have you even been listening to me?? In my very first post (the same one you said was off-topic) I gave the advantages of sex, elsewhere in this thread I linked some studies that show why sex is so commonplace across species. What's wrong with you, man?

I don't think I should waste my time arguing with someone who doesn't even know that mangos don't evolve.

Your knowledge of this subject is so little and so beneath mine that you can't appreciate or understand my points. Go read a book, man.

You're so funny and ultimately lack simple comprehension, I only sighted an example using mangoes, I could have used Biro, pencil, dog, goat or whatever thing I like.....
A self acclaimed intelligent guy that cannot comprehend simple illustration, am sure you have a different definition of intelligence.

And who told you plants (mango as example) didn't evolve according to evolutionists ?

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Tollzara(m): 9:17pm On Feb 23, 2018
frank317:


One cant help wonder how these people reason. He called out atheists by asking them questions for biologists and evolutionists.

In their world, once u have no faith to believe in the exstence of an unproven being, u have automatically became a world renown scientist.
Lol. You can imagine. grin
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by CoolUsername: 9:18pm On Feb 23, 2018
butterflyl1on:


True! Why sex? Why not the woman having both the ovum and sperm in her and simply release the sperm to fertilise her own eggs by herself? Why the separation into men and women and why the need to come together to achieve reproduction?

That is asexual reproduction! What you just described is asexual reproduction, I have linked the evolutionary advantages of sexual reproduction to you but you obviously didn't read it.

butterflyl1on:

Why must men be the producers of sperm and not the women while the men produce eggs?

The Y chromosome which determines maleness (in mammals) also causes development of other sexual characteristics.

butterflyl1on:

Since we are separate genders how did evolution see necessity for reproduction especially when we are separate. It would have been a necessity if both the sperm and ovum were in one carrier and not different carriers.

Did you even read my other posts?

butterflyl1on:

That guy is not thinking at all yet is claiming intelligence while dodging questions by offering different things entirely.

You're either just skimming through my posts or not comprehending me. Read that Evolution for Dummies.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 9:22pm On Feb 23, 2018
frank317:


One cant help wonder how these people reason. He called out atheists by asking them questions for biologists and evolutionists.

In their world, once u have no faith to believe in the exstence of an unproven being, u have automatically became a world renown scientist.

If you claimed to be an athiest that doesn't accept evolution theory, can I conclude that you don't care about how you came into being ?

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by CoolUsername: 9:24pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:


You're so funny and ultimately lack simple comprehension, I only sighted an example using mangoes, I could have used Biro, pencil, dog, goat or whatever thing I like.....
A self acclaimed intelligent guy that cannot comprehend simple illustration, am sure you have a different definition of intelligence.

And who told you plants (mango as example) didn't evolve according to evolutionists ?

You're trying to twist what you previously said, you asked me what would happen to two mangos over the course of five days not trees.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by danvon(m): 9:34pm On Feb 23, 2018
frank317:


If atheists say humans are created by nothing and u say ur God was created by nothing why are making a fuss about it?

Did you read his post he never said humans were created out of nothing, I'm asking him what's his version of creation and he's just twisting

Atheist are supposed to be more logical than those who believe creation it's like you oppose a myth with a myth

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 9:35pm On Feb 23, 2018
mohemos:
If, as evolutionists have argued, there is a materialistic answer for everything, then these questions should be answered: 

How exactly did we arrive at two separate genders, each with its own physiology? 

Why sex? 

Is sex the product of a historical accident or the product of an intelligent Creator? 

Modified:

How could nature evolve a female member of a species that produces eggs and is internally equipped to nourish a growing embryo, while at the same time evolving a male member that produces motile sperm cells? And, further, how is it that these gametes (eggs and sperm) conveniently “evolved” so that they each contain half the normal chromosome number of somatic (body) cells?
Oh thank you?

How come all animals must have sex to.reproduce, but none evolves into something else since the last evolution?

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 9:37pm On Feb 23, 2018
Tollzara:
All these nincompoops whose brain cells have been mercilessly deformed by cold-blooded bible worms.

Does being an atheist make one an evolutionary biologist?

This is a question for biologists, not atheists. And I for one am not informed enough to pontificate carelessly on such topic.

Anyways, evolution is the central theme of Biology, has made sense of a lot of observations as pertaining to life and its processes, and is the theory that offers the best and most all-encompassing explanation for how life has come to be what it is today. It has explained a lot. That there are several details we're still ignorant of doesn't in anyway discredit or refute the theory.

OP, if you're so interested in this particular question, you can carry out some research and help provide the answer. Become an evolutionary biologist and contribute your own portion to the bulk of human knowledge.

Take note, however, that the answer to this question would have no bearing on my atheism, because I was already an atheist before accepting evolution as FACT. And I'm quite certain the same is true for a lot of other atheists. Yes, I'm telling you how irrelevant the question is to atheism.


The OP only made his observations known that atheist run away from his questions and you guys are doing exactly what he/she said.
All these your plenty essay doesn't answer his questions, you're just blabbing....... he/she didn't ask why and when you became an atheist and he/she just felt any normal human being should be curious about his existence, If you don't believe in deity and also accepts not evolution, then it means you care not about your existence and the question is definitely not for you.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 9:37pm On Feb 23, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Another misinformed theist thinking he had a eureka moment

1. Atheism is not a scientific claim

2. Evolution is a scientific claim

3. There are Christians that accept evolution theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceptance_of_evolution_by_religious_groups

4. There are non-antheists that accept evolution theory
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_evolution

5. There are atheists that reject evolution theory



Now go back and ask a germane question or you're just rambling ignorantly sir
Why didn't you attempt the Op even by half?
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 9:45pm On Feb 23, 2018
frank317:


One cant help wonder how these people reason. He called out atheists by asking them questions for biologists and evolutionists.

In their world, once u have no faith to believe in the exstence of an unproven being, u have automatically became a world renown scientist.

If you don't believe in deity and science then what did you believe and if you believe nothing then you're just a careless being and definitely the question is not for you!!! and personal I feel you believe in something but you're just afraid to stand for it.

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 9:45pm On Feb 23, 2018
hopefulLandlord:


1. I never said "I don't accept evolution theory", I said I haven't studied it enough to accept nor reject it. don't strawman me again please

2. I don't know but I understand why man created gods like Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Olodumare, Chukwu etc as "I don't know" has always been a difficult answer to give to a question

3. Atheism is as old as man, Darwin existed in the 19th century
Guy, you are not suppose to come into this thread because if we need to seriously have a cinversation about it, you'd jump off saying you don't know. You don't know, yet you know enough to say there's no YHWH and Jesus.


Remember you and i had had this talk before? I asked how you got here, you said your parents had sex. When i pulled you down to Adam having sex and having kids and we still having sex to have kids today, you ran off.


Why not just stay away? No offence. I still love you cheesy

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by frank317: 9:48pm On Feb 23, 2018
danvon:
Did you read his post he never said humans were created out of nothing, I'm asking him what's his version of creation and he's just twisting

Atheist are supposed to be more logical than those who believe creation it's like you oppose a myth with a myth

Read ur post, u said atheist believe humans were created by nothing
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by frank317: 9:50pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:


If you claimed to be an athiest that doesn't accept evolution theory, can I conclude that you don't care about how you came into being ?

Of course i wonder how we came to be...
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by DeSepiero(m): 9:50pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:



The OP only made his observations known that atheist run away from his questions and you guys are doing exactly what he/she said.
All these your plenty essay doesn't answer his questions, you're just blabbing....... he/she didn't ask why and when you became an atheist and he/she just felt any normal human being should be curious about his existence, If you don't believe in deity and also accepts not evolution, then it means you're care not about your existence and the question is definitely not for you.




Perhaps you don't understand; atheists are often logical enough to avoid making bold assertions on things they're not sure of. That's arrogance.
By the way, why do you ask atheists questions that are befitting of a professor of evolutionary biology.

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 9:54pm On Feb 23, 2018
Am still awe at how nobody could answer the OP's question and my greatest suprise is how so many atheist are denouncing evolution and science today.
You guys are just so funny! smiley smiley smiley

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Tollzara(m): 9:57pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:


[s]The OP only made his observations known that atheist run away from his questions and you guys are doing exactly what he/she said.
All these your plenty essay doesn't answer his questions, you're just blabbing....... he/she didn't ask why and when you became an atheist and he/she just felt any normal human being should be curious about his existence, If you don't believe in deity and also accepts not evolution, then it means you're care not about your existence and the question is definitely not for you. [/s]
You obviously do not understand my post, and I'm not the type that likes repeating himself. If you can't comprehend what I said, then I'm too elitist to discuss anything with you. Sorry.

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Humanistme: 9:58pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:
Am still awe at how nobody could answer the OP's question and my greatest suprise is how so many atheist are denouncing evolution and science today.
You guys are just so funny! smiley smiley smiley


who denounced science? quote the person abi you don't know the meaning of denounce again?

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 10:00pm On Feb 23, 2018
DeSepiero:


Perhaps you don't understand; atheists are often logical enough to avoid making bold assertions on things they're not sure of. That's arrogance.
By the way, why do you ask atheists questions that are befitting of a professor of evolutionary biology.

So you guys are humble today to not beat your chest against what you're not sure of?

Since you're not sure about the existence of God, why do you arrogantly claim there's no God ?
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 10:04pm On Feb 23, 2018
frank317:

Of course i wonder how we came to be...
Do you have answer answer yet ?
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 10:05pm On Feb 23, 2018
hopefulLandlord:


I don't hate Yahweh, I know Yahweh is imaginary
Pls how do you know YHWH is imaginary?
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Humanistme: 10:07pm On Feb 23, 2018
question for Those of us that completely reject evolution, when you where taught evolution of plants in ss2/ss3 i.e. all those bryophytes, lycopods, and ferns, gymnosperms and angiosperms did you accept it, challenge your teachers or did you just see as something you study so as to pass exams.

I know this kind of off topic but I'm curious.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 10:07pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:


I manage to score you 1/100 because you mentioned Sex;
Please answer the question and stop perambulating.


1/100? This Guy is generous.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Humanistme: 10:09pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:


So you guys are humble today to not beat your chest against what you're not sure of?

Since you're not sure about the existence of God, why do you arrogantly claim there's no God ?

not sure about the existence of a creator God but 100% sure YHWH is fiction because the bible is fraud and it is not to be trusted.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by frank317: 10:10pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:


Do you have answer answer yet ?

Nope
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 10:11pm On Feb 23, 2018
Tollzara:
You obviously do not understand my post, and I'm not the type that likes repeating himself. If you can't comprehend what I said, then I'm too elitist to discuss anything with you. Sorry.

Run away tactics........
I know you didn't have anything to bring to the table when you wrote plenty without addressing the question.

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Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by iamwhat: 10:13pm On Feb 23, 2018
frank317:


Nope

Good!
I know you would be searching for an answer, please update us when you get one!
Thanks for your honesty.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 10:16pm On Feb 23, 2018
CoolUsername:


It's rather simple, the BIG question OP asked is the origin of sexual reproduction and sex. Once sexual reproduction and its purpose are ascertained, the other things are more like fluff because they are just the specialized mechanisms for efficient sexual reproduction. So,gametes, sex organs, intercourse, are tools which have been selected overtime to facilitate that same gene transfer I talked about in unicellular organisms but adapted for multicellular organisms.

If you ask about the evolution of the human eye, I'll have to start with the most primitive forms of sight before I show you the progression from that to the modern human eye. That's because once you understand the necessity of sight to survival along with natural selection, then you'll see that the human eye is just a specialized tool for animals that evolved under the conditions we did.

Saying that it occurred by accident is a bit inaccurate because while chance is evolved, these processes have been refined over generations for millions of years.
Who or what selected these tools, and who or what redefined these processes over millions of years. Your submission seems to suggest there's a hand (Causation) behind all.
Re: Why Do Atheists Desist From Answering This Question ? by Emmanystone: 10:19pm On Feb 23, 2018
iamwhat:



Can you see you're just concentrating on only one aspect of a whale-like (Very big) question ?

The intelligent arrangement of chromosomes, The physiological differences between the genders, the reproductive organs....... How people in the same environment under the same influence of everything suddenly have different physiological developments.
What created Penis and made it compatible with virginal.....
and why does female has womb and menstruate and male doesn't, who created it that way.....
What created breast and makes it milky at a point just to serve as food to another organism.......

Why don't you answer those questions?



And the breast had to mount out to enable another organism suck or feed from it. Why is the man's chest so smooth?

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