ultron12345:
dont mind them. Nigerian pharmacists ought to b ashamed of themselves. They are so incompetent to the extent that all they can do is to dispense drugs that were manufactured in China and India, they can't make anything. Useless people.

funmisticqueen:
the doctor is the leader of the healthcare team. Fact. who will take responsibility if something goes wrong with a patient, definitely not,JOHESU. who gets litigated, definitely not JOHESU.

You people want the benefits but are not prepared to take the risks that go with it

JoannaSedley:
Oh thank you for not denying that I attended classes with them.
Funny you.. You mean , the lazy as.s Nigerian lecturers in college of basic medical sciences will later come back to reschedule classes for them after marking, compiling and pasting the results. With the dissection and the lab works and the experiments.?? You are talking as if the lecture notes are top secrets.
Just tell me that you are joking. Isn't this a bit farfetched to you?. I mean this is worse than defending Buhari.
At the end of the basic medical science courses
every students move to their various department where those courses will be integrated into their core and various disciplines.

lightness77:
The best solution to the chaos in the health sector is privatization.

ultron12345:
taaaaaaaah.......because u pple know chemical formulas of drugs, keep deceiving urself

eleojo23:


The more this guy talks, the more ignorance he displays.

Pharmacists can do much more than dispensing within the hospital but you guys will not allow them...even when they want to make suggestions and inputs, you guys feel that they are challenging you. So most times they just mind their business and dispense. Who get time to be rubbing shoulders with immature people? But unfortunately, the patient suffers it.

That is why many pharmacists prefer to practice in the community setting (I guess you don't even know what that means)

eleojo23:


The more this guy talks, the more ignorance he displays.

Pharmacists can do much more than dispensing within the hospital but you guys will not allow them...even when they want to make suggestions and inputs, you guys feel that they are challenging you. So most times they just mind their business and dispense. Who get time to be rubbing shoulders with immature people? But unfortunately, the patient suffers it.

That is why many pharmacists prefer to practice in the community setting (I guess you don't even know what that means)

sunroxus:
In all of these struggles I don't think is the duty one person to determine what the other takes - poor reason if you deserve something else come up with and not saying one shouldn't get what .
If I may ask who is the president of the world health organisation? Is he/she a doctor? If the and is no than the monopoly if health institution leadership is wrong and all the claim that a doctor must head places should challenge us as people
Thanks

mylifeisagift:

ogheni.. You didn't study complex structures to be making suggestions..Baba go and invent drugs like your mates in india, china etc

mylifeisagift:

Because u studied intro to anatomy, physio and co..u think you have same knowledge base as a doctor? u people just keep deceiving yourselves and doctors playing d bigger card by excusing your ignorance ain't helping issues..You dont know jack about core anatomy, physiology etc..Dont let me embarrass you beyond repair..
This is exactly the reason why some doctors think granting you guys the title of consultants will become inimical to patient care..You don't even realize your excesses maybe its stupidity or blatant hypocrisy...Gush listen to yourself

ultron12345:
this your hatred and envy towards doctors and medical students is too much better let go of it before it kills you. You might attend anatomy and co classes with them, but u cannot score up to 40% in their exams in those same courses.

TheDoc:
The best solution to this recurrent JOHESU/NMA/NARD strikes is privatisation, let everybody earn proportionately to the services he offers.

ultron12345:
the only reason johesu strike has impact is because they lock the labs, pharmacy and stores. If they leave these places open, no one will even notice their absence

nelszx:


If I understand you clearly Ma, if a MLS gives a result of a positive hepatitis B to a patient whose status is negative, is the doctor accountable for it? Whose license is on the line when these happens?

Should a nurse out of oversight gives an overdose of drug to a patient and God forbid the patient dies who's held accountable or who faces litigation?

Should a physiotherapist fails to respond to a patient with slipped disc and it degenerate, who takes the blame for his ineptitude? The doctor

If a clinical pharmacist out of drug substitute dispenses a near substitute to a patient and he comes down with adverse drug reaction (Steven Johnson syndrome) you mean the doctor takes the blame?

Ever wondered why these professionals have regulatory bodies and are licensed to practice?
Doctor are accountable to themselves ma and not to other professionals. That a doctor is the leader of the health team doesnt mean he's responsible for the actions and inaction of others.

Would anticipate your response

murphyibiam15:

bros there is nothing like saturation... the whole doctors in Nigeria doesn't reach the total in Texas.. just a state in USA... Nigerian health care structure is the problem and not saturation... what's the ratio of Dr to patient again in Nigeria? I just hope you understand what I meant

ultron12345:
dont mind them. Nigerian pharmacists ought to b ashamed of themselves. They are so incompetent to the extent that all they can do is to dispense drugs that were manufactured in China and India, they can't make anything. Useless people.

JoannaSedley:
look at this ignorant doctor. See ya mouth granting them consultant title as if it is the exclusive of doctors to grant consultant title to others. Funny. Tell that to the UK nurse consultants, consultant pharmacist etc.
Get lost.
Imagine intro anatomy and physiology. Smh.

femianski:
all this arrogant drs should just spare me of this their stale statement of picking jamb form
I av seen geniuses going for other health courses like pharmacy despite scoring higher than the jamb cut off marks

Amarabae:

The more you talk the more I doubt if you are really a medical student.
You sound so empty to be one.
I really doubt it, maybe you are a physiology graduate who is just bitter.
.

Nigeria pharmacists don't manufacture anything according to you,
Have you heard of Emzor, Orange drug pharmaceuticals, Juher, Drugfield etc
What are they manufacturing?
Are they manufacturing cheap brain so that people like you can afford it?
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Doctor wannabe.

bornolowu:
why not choose another title , must it be "consultant". they could use expert or whatever. It'inferiority complex if you ask me!!

mylifeisagift:

Because u studied intro to anatomy, physio and co..u think you have same knowledge base as a doctor? u people just keep deceiving yourselves and doctors playing d bigger card by excusing your ignorance ain't helping issues..You dont know jack about core anatomy, physiology etc..Dont let me embarrass you beyond repair..
This is exactly the reason why some doctors think granting you guys the title of consultants will become inimical to patient care..You don't even realize your excesses maybe its stupidity or blatant hypocrisy...Gush listen to yourself

nelszx:


If I understand you clearly Ma, if a MLS gives a result of a positive hepatitis B to a patient whose status is negative, is the doctor accountable for it? Whose license is on the line when these happens?

Should a nurse out of oversight gives an overdose of drug to a patient and God forbid the patient dies who's held accountable or who faces litigation?

Should a physiotherapist fails to respond to a patient with slipped disc and it degenerate, who takes the blame for his ineptitude? The doctor

If a clinical pharmacist out of drug substitute dispenses a near substitute to a patient and he comes down with adverse drug reaction (Steven Johnson syndrome) you mean the doctor takes the blame?

Ever wondered why these professionals have regulatory bodies and are licensed to practice?
Doctor are accountable to themselves ma and not to other professionals. That a doctor is the leader of the health team doesnt mean he's responsible for the actions and inaction of others.

Would anticipate your response

bhlesingglory:



Lol...i just can't stop laughing at this your statement
I am a physiotherapist in training and during my preclinical years, I was introduced to the whole anatomy(that is if u know Keith Moore and last anatomy) physiology(sembuligan, Guyton,essential texts) and biochemistry(harper's and vashudevan text).

I would not mind a competition with you so we can know how much introduction I was given

funmisticqueen:
are they sued to court for malpractices

Amarabae:

Why not.
I read it.

You started from a neutral point and then end up being sentimental.

Government are not treating medical professionals well in this country, I agree .

My postulation in that thread is about the N.M.A Cold War with Johesu.
We support them demanding for better treatment from the government the same way johesu expect them to support us.

Whatever agreement we johesu have with the government or whatever our demands are should not be a treat to them.

They have been kicking against johesu interest secretly for years now through the ministers of health who are doctors.

We need partnership,
They support us,
We support them.

In Canada, there was a protest by doctors over being overpaid and for the welfare agenda of other health professionals to be met.
That's mutual respect and cooperation.
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I have no issue with doctors, I have many of them as friends in my work place and I have worked with them a lot.
The man who fathered me is also one.
Plus two siblings in the profession.

But we have to put things in place.
Them themselves are being exploited in Nigeria,
What a doctor in Europe is earning a month is far superior to what a doctor is earning in Nigeria,
That's why many of them are leaving.
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Johesu is not in any war with NMA.
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As for your later part,
You don't expect a medical lab people to allow microbiologists to take over their job.
You said that you read microbiology In your first degree, you thought you will compete with med lab guys but reality dawned on you.
Maybe you are now in the medical school and you now deem it fit to be antagonizing anything med lab.

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Secondly.
We university graduate nurses have no issue with school of nursing trained nurses,
A nurse is a nurse except Auxiliaries.

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Everybody is important in the health sector.
Even the gateman at the hospital gate.

Thanks.