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Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:23pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: Jesus was supposed to be human. How is it possible to be human and not have 46 chromosomes? PastorAIO: How can you know all those things that are characteristic of human beings and say that there are exceptions and you can be human without having human characteristics? Is it because you can live a life of sin and claim christ's righteousness 'imputed' to you? Is it because you can be suffering and yet claim 'it is well'? Is it because your cult requires you to contradict reality at every turn? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:26pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: Why would they have an element of bias? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:28pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: If you could just tell us what Richard Rives' scientific background is that would be very wonderful. I thank you in advance. 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 4:29pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Human beings with 47 chromosomes ... what about them? How are they also human beings? I also wonder how many chromosomes Adam and Eve had... PastorAIO: What stops God from making it possible for a human being to have 24 chromosomes as a rare exception? PastorAIO: And what's driving the last three questions? I don't understand the reason for these questions...how are they related to what we've been discussing so far? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 4:33pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel:OkCornel, it's not fair o! I told you I was waiting impatiently, still, days later, nothing! How long do you think this can hold on to my attention? Or were you hoping I would forget and not be reminded? Please, when you do provide what I asked for, do include where it says anything that could possibly be taken to mean, "Richard Rives was a scientist". |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 4:37pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel:I post links but have not been banned. Do the mods not communicate reasons for bans? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:39pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: Most fetuses with trisomy are miscarried during the first trimester. Most of those who survive have Down syndrome, also known as trisomy 21 because it's caused by an extra chromosome 21. While all babies with Down syndrome have some degree of mental impairment, it's severe in only about 10 percent.https://www.babycenter.com/404_what-does-it-mean-when-a-baby-has-an-extra-chromosome_5279.bc The 47 chromosomes case results in serious deformity. Was Jesus deformed? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:41pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: The reason for the last three questions is an attempt to see whether illogical reasoning may have a bearing on why you present Richard Rives as scientific proof without even knowing what his scientific background is. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 4:42pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
budaatum: Bro... no vex abeg... Most of the sources I've seen so far are from wyattmusuem.com and I believe there might be element of bias in them since he's affiliated to them... If something from a neutral source pops up...I'll post it here ASAP... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:43pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: So what led you in the first place to use him as scientific evidence when you know nothing about his scientific background? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 4:45pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: And your logical reasoning never mentioned that it is a must for all human beings to have 46 chromosomes... 1) What of people with 47 chromosomes...what'll you say about them? 2) How many chromosomes did the first man/woman on earth have...since they had no parents? Let's see how far your "logical" reasoning goes... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 4:47pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: I thought you were reasoning logically when I mentioned I didn't want to post sources from wyattmuseum.com Or you think details on his scientific backgrounds are not there? I am looking for sources from a neutral background does not automatically mean I do not know anything about his scientific background... simple logic |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 4:50pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Oh...so you now see that not all human beings have 46 chromosomes... There are no historical accounts on Jesus being deformed... Let's go by your logic... if Jesus had 46 chromosomes as any human being should...and Joseph clearly was not the earthly father of Jesus...then who was Jesus' earthly father (by blood)... CAN YOU TELL US? While at it...it would be nice to also know how many chromosomes the first man and woman had... were they 46 in number? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:03pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
budaatum: They do...if you check your profile...you'll see the reason... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 5:28pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel:I guess I'll have to get banned. Those mods must really like me! |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:32pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: 1) What of people with 47 chromosomes...what'll you say about them?they are deformed. Was Jesus deformed? 2) How many chromosomes did the first man/woman on earth have...since they had no parents? I have no idea. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:33pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: Give us the details of his scientific background from Wyatt museum. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:33pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
budaatum: How often do you post links? Mine was for posting a youtube video links on something about tithing... And I posted that particular link on multiple threads...before I got slammed with a ban... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:34pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: You have no idea on how many chromosomes the first man/woman had...and they weren't deformed...or were they? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:38pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: How clearly was Joseph not his earthly father? I'm sorry, I can't tell you who Jesus' earthly father is. I just don't know. If you can present the first man and woman I'll be happy to have a guess at how many chromosomes they had. One more question for you: Since God is all powerful, why do you not believe that God could have created out of thin air 23 chromosomes to join with Mary's 23 and therefore make Jesus an undeformed proper human being? It is obvious that you don't believe that god can make 23 chromosomes for Jesus' male side. Why not? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by budaatum: 5:38pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel:I think you were banned for spamming then. I treat this site like someone's home. I would not enter and throw my crap all over the place. I would find it disrespectful to myself if I behaved like a pig. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:39pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: I don't know. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:40pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: I have no doubt that God can create 23 chromosomes out of thin air...but where are the 23 chromosomes in the sample tested? Or is the issue no longer about the result of the sample tested? |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:43pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: Maybe Jesus was deformed after all. I recall some time ago reading a book (I forgot the title) that stated that there was an early Church tradition about Jesus being deformed. One source described him as being 3 cubits tall-4 1 / 2 feet (males at that time and region were on average 5'4", hunchbacked, long face with a unibrow that made him look terrifying when he looked at you.https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/183483/jesus-hunchback-unibrowed-dwarf |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:44pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: I think you misunderstand me. I should make me position clearer. I don't believe in the existence of any nonsense sample. Or that any tests were conducted. I believe it is all one big con. 1 Like |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:49pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Thankfully its your opinion...and not a fact... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:50pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Going by your logic..maybe the first man/woman were deformed too... Unless you are certain they had 46 chromosomes as well... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:50pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: We all have our opinions. Some are intelligent are others are plain daft. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:52pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
OkCornel: Quite likely their parents had 48, but weren't human. When they reduced to 46 that is when they became human. |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:54pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
budaatum: If I am posting that obligatory monetary tithing is a scam on many tithe related threads and you think its crap... then so be it... I'll continue with that... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:55pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Plain daft even when the results are staring right in one's face... That reminds me of an ostrich that buries its head in the sand... |
Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by OkCornel(m): 5:56pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
PastorAIO: Any scientific research work on this? Oh... you started with "quite likely" so its your opinion... |
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