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Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by tetralogyfallot(m): 8:36am On Feb 08, 2019 |
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Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by TONYE001(m): 8:36am On Feb 08, 2019 |
I wonder how our policy makers do these things. What factors do they consider before they come up with ideas that would only tear us further apart? What really is the essence of this HND-BSC dichotomy? Imagine the HND's spending more time in training! A legal process should be instituted to cure this madness. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by mjbaba: 8:37am On Feb 08, 2019 |
Let them too acquire additional qualifications na 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by nwachi1404: 8:38am On Feb 08, 2019 |
If you hold a HND certificate and end at level 14, then you have your self to blame. Why can't you get the additional qualification that is required. Even BSc holders are upgrading their qualifications. No do yourself. 5 Likes |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Skoopy(m): 8:39am On Feb 08, 2019 |
And your president doesn't have SSCE � Meanwhile polytechnic graduates spent 5yrs too, one year for industrial training without which you cannot proceed for HND. University graduates IT period of about 6months is part of their 5yr academic calendar, so why are they not counting the 1year polytechnic graduates IT period as part of their academic calendar. 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Tlyon(m): 8:40am On Feb 08, 2019 |
Nawa for Nigeria and it's implemented policy, I still believe Hnd graduate do most of the work but still get the least accolades or non, remember the ruling president we ain't even sure has a O'level certificate. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by FATBAYO(m): 8:42am On Feb 08, 2019 |
Nigeria has no plans for herself....jamb they jam people they use there money grow flower and corrupt leaders chop theirs with out Transforming d educational sector.No p |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by adekalumichael: 8:47am On Feb 08, 2019 |
This lies only exist in a third world country like ours. What makes grades different if not the A4 paper presented at the end. Join other non-lazy youths to learn how to do design for M&E companies. Available training are HVAC, electrical, fire fighting and plumbing including Revit MEP. Check siggy for more details. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by adecz: 8:49am On Feb 08, 2019 |
HND is never equivalent to University degree. Letting them enter at level O8 is an injustice to university graduates. Most HND holders can barely speak correct English & they have lower entry requirements. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Getintouch2004(m): 8:50am On Feb 08, 2019 |
anibabes007: Where can I get those? |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by jendhorlee(m): 8:50am On Feb 08, 2019 |
untill the minimum cut off to enter polytechnic is also increased to 180 p.s I'm also a polytechnic student trying to apply for direct entry 6 Likes |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Joybringer: 9:00am On Feb 08, 2019 |
ProsperChild: I suggest all HND holders apply for this programme 1 Like 2 Shares
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Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Nobody: 9:05am On Feb 08, 2019 |
EdenH: Some polytechnics only take first choice candidates. Examples are YABATECH, ILARO POLY and others. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by BlueRayDick: 9:08am On Feb 08, 2019 |
My question is why should anybody enter civil service on grade 8 with HND and be lazy enough not to add any other qualification to his HND till he retires on level 14? Any reasonable person who is lucky enough to enter the civil service with HND degree should make it top priority to at least enroll in National Open University and get at least a degree there. Even Obasanjo got a PHD there without overkilling himself 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by BlueRayDick: 9:08am On Feb 08, 2019 |
What is the duration for this programme? Joybringer: |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by tete7000(m): 9:09am On Feb 08, 2019 |
But is degree and HND really the same? From inception of both, was there ever a plan or intention they would ever be the same? Are their curricula the same? If the answer to these questions are in the negative, why should anyone then expect their end should be the same? |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Liverpoolfc(m): 9:10am On Feb 08, 2019 |
why all these noise? Use it to get a job and then go higher. What will you be doing till level 14 withoutgetting higher degree?what happen to inhouse trainning? My father told me he was employed with diploma, but today he is a lawyer doing the same job. He will retire this year as senior staff. He is my hero. But without spoon but able to give us a wooden spoon to turn into silver spoon for our children. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Joybringer: 9:11am On Feb 08, 2019 |
2 years. BlueRayDick: |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by dmbb: 9:12am On Feb 08, 2019 |
You went to Poly because you wanted to be Diploma holder, but if you want Degree you know where to go to. The choice is yours there is no shortcut in life You want something, go it it! 5 Likes |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Nobody: 9:12am On Feb 08, 2019 |
ProsperChild: A legal action cannot make the educational system equate a bachelor's to diploma...can u even prove it they are the same via course modules, research output, lecturing staff profile etc...?? Mayb if the government convert all polytechnics to universities, mayb the dichotomy can end... 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Joybringer: 9:13am On Feb 08, 2019 |
BlueRayDick:they can enrol for 2 years HND conversation weekends programme. 1 Like
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Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by tete7000(m): 9:13am On Feb 08, 2019 |
But is degree and HND really the same? From inception of both, was there ever a plan or intention they would ever be the same? Are their curricula the same? If the answer to these questions are in the negative, why should anyone then expect their end should be the same? If you think you are good enough to enter university, go to university and spare yourself unnecessary distress. The plan to not accord the same status to polytechnic graduates as that of university graduates has always been there. Why expect that goal post will suddenly shift in the middle of the game? Emotion and sentiment cannot win this argument. 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by tammie24: 9:14am On Feb 08, 2019 |
kehinde1588:you are the only person that has made sense on his thread. Imagine rubbish wey people dey talk Some polytechnic students can't even copy answers properly And they want to be on the same level with university students 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Nobody: 9:16am On Feb 08, 2019 |
kehinde1588: I disagree that organization is our universities are better than what is obtainable in the some polytechnics. I've been everywhere, most state universities are unorganised, choked up and have dilapidated structures with substandard equipments. The only reason why they are being patronized is the dichotomy. Some federal universities like UI, UNILAG and OAU however stand tall amongst the rest as regards infrastructure. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by OlujobaSamuel: 9:19am On Feb 08, 2019 |
1StopRudeness:Not really true. In most cases, students lack enlightenment, so they just apply to as many places as possible with the notion of just find something doing. It's similar to a school offering candidates a course different from what they applied for, and people around you advise (rightly or wrongly) you to accept so you leave the league of those staying at home. One of my kid bro went to a poly for ND, I just told him, see wetin I Dey face, don't ever try to consider HND, pick DE and UTME forms, one should work, eventually he got admission through UTME, He is now in 200l, and even one of the oldest in class, but who cares? The major issue is enlightenment since govt is not ready to work things out by upgrading the structure or cancelling the program. 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by PatrickOkunima(m): 9:21am On Feb 08, 2019 |
OlujobaSamuel: Why not go for PGD instead? I know people who have PhD and M.Sc. who started from ND, HND and even NCE. |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by OlujobaSamuel: 9:26am On Feb 08, 2019 |
PatrickOkunima:Except in a school outside Nigeria, you can't use PGD for PhD in Nigeria, the highest is MSc if you have PGD. Btw, thanks, will round up my BSc this year. 1 Like |
Re: Dichotomy: HND Graduates Can’t Rise Above Grade Level 14 ― FG by Nobody: 9:30am On Feb 08, 2019 |
TONYE001: The case would be lost even before it's heard in court. The act on which polytechnics were established to produce middle level skilled individuals has given them out. Until the act is reviewed and curriculum upgraded, there's no court that can give verdict in favour of the polytechnics. I'm sure the poly community would also claim superior to colleges of education based on this, even when they have absolutely nothing in common. 2 Likes |
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