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Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Image123(m): 3:13pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
Most leaders and their cabinet are very educated people with impressive resumes, trained outside the country and greet citadels of learning. They simply use religion as a tool to get what they want easily. They aren't very deep in religion usually, but play to the gallery. African religion leaders and overseers are making giant strides and breaking records all the time. That's the difference. 1 Like |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by GoodBoi1(m): 3:45pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
princeogbeide1:Really? Religion brought education to Nigeria and even today churches are establishing universities in this same Nigeria with the goal of being among the best in the world but it is still your lot that will condemn churches that establish educational institutions. So what are you saying? |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by adegeye38(m): 4:01pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
NPComplete:70% of Americans idebtify as Christians, with a population of 300 million making it 210 million Americans Nigeria has 100 million Christianity is a way of life. And i teaches you to abstain from things that can destroy your life and others An average black man is selfish, greedy and self centred and has no moral conscience and so they bring that to Christianity and they practice Christianity to suit their convenience, not God's convenience and thats why churches are increasing and yet immorality is on the high side. Man will always want to suit his flesh and desires and if you dont fight it with the power of the holy spirit, then there is no difference. Also not all people understand what Christianity is, even some Christians themselves. Christianity encourages hardwork go and read proverbs , prayer is not a subtitute for hard work Being a Christian does not mean you cant reason, but it helps you reason rightly and it helps your hardwork to be recognised. But a lot of Christians don't know this, thats why the bible says, "my people suffer for lack of knowledge" The greatest enemy of Christians is ignorance, not the devil. See God is real, Christianity is a spiritual experience and it is an awesome and different world entirely in which you can be part of by giving your life to Christ 1 Like |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Amujale(m): 4:09pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
All Abrahamic religions are false, fake and counterintuitive 2 Likes |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Amujale(m): 4:11pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
Manufactured history, and the reason it was forced upon Africans was due to an ancient Eurocentric project known as the "World Order". That project began by the Romans hundred of thousands of years ago. Initially all of Europe and parts of Asia abide by the laws and moral code of Africa. Then one Roman Emperor deviced a plan that would enable Europe to dominate the globe both militarily and spiritualy. His plan was dubbed "The World Order", it was during these times that Libya was invaded as the first post-pharaonic military campaign ever launched by Europe on African soil under the stewerdship of Portugal and Spain with the so-called blessing of the then Pope. Its important to note that Rome was never stationary, Rome moved its administrative capital on various occasions, the most commonly talked about being Constantinople that is the modern day Istanbul in Turkey. Rome is actually a Eurocentric political concept. One that only allows for European and or their descendants domination of the world. The "World Order" and the so-called "New World Order" are one and the same. The adherents of the "World Order" spend hundred and thousands of years trying to nail down their unwitty claims of superiority over everyone else. What happened was that the Romans use all the intellectual tools available to their Emperor and political class to lay their foundation of world domination. They use psychological, sociological and military inteligence to reach their goals and objectives. The Asians also caused havoc. Its argued that if the Asian war mongerers hadnt launched their crazy holy wars inside the continent, the Eurocentric Crusaders would never have made the military progress they achieved on the continent. Neither the trans Atlantic slave trade nor Colonisation would never had taken place. The argument that the Europeans won most of their crazy battles because of internal conflict is false. Most of the internal conflicts at the time was created or exacerbated by the adherents of the "World Order" The reason they made in roads was due to the earlier Arab wars and military campaigns combined with the Christian missionaries and Jewish missionaries that precede the crazy dash for African treasure. There was also some local traitors. They, the missionaries and traitors, were emmisaries and spies to Europe's political class and they reported much of the situation on the ground. The scramble for Africa was a calculated campaign that involved the political classes from all over Europe, Eurocentric Royalists of the entire continent of Europe, Christian and Jewish adherents; multiple meetings and various conferences. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Amujale(m): 4:14pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
All Abrahamic religions are based on lies, theft, violence and false conceptions. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by follock007(m): 4:16pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
and our leader is God right? Horseman Death always dragging hell along. Death = Neptune planet 9 accounts for 36 states of Nigeria. That is 3+6=9 Hell is Pluto the 10 planet = 1 capital. That is 1+0=1 they can always link archaic and backward juju politics with religion anytime |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Amujale(m): 4:17pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
I agree that our leaders are greedy and unfit for purpose, yet they are merely the symptoms. The main problem is foreign languages and the Abrahamic religions. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by malvisguy212: 4:46pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
Ugosample:religion has help to inspired man to do Good,religion is the ultimate source of HOPE , removed religion and the ultimate question will be WHAT DO WE LIVE FOR ? I believe people will do terrible things with or without religion, take a look at the Soviet Union, populated with mostly atheist, even there name seems UNITY but they slaughter there own people. and what about north Korea ? I believed if atheism hold ground just like religion the Human Race will be Long gone by now. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by mmsen: 6:10pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
Tellemall: So you have no proof. Talking out of your backside as expected. Find some integrity please. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
Villageppl:It's just because Turkey was initially a secular state before the introduction of islam. The people has an already established ways of life which suits them. When u check their culture, u will get a mixture of western, asian and arab together. Erdogan belongs to the Muslim brotherhood and its good the people knew what they wanted and fought him. Can Nigerians separate religion from the state? That is the problem. We don't live beyond ethnicity. It's worst than religion. I haven't seen any country that hate themselves like Nigerians. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Olumyco(m): 6:45pm On Jul 21, 2019 |
The problem of Africa is not bad leaders. It is not religion either. The problem of Africa is YOU and I. Our ATTITUDE/MENTALITY/MINDSET/PERSPECTIVE is the reason why we are in this present state. Is it our leaders that say someone should liter the country with sachet of pure water? Our attitude is bad. We are not honest. We give BRIBES, tell LIES and so on all in the name of getting money. We are GREEDY. The problem of Africa is the way we think. Why should a person jump the queue and go and enter in the front... can you see that. Why should someone go and connect his electricity illegally. Why should someone drive through one way which is illegal... these and many others have put us where we are. We are not thinking rightly. As we react to this thread... some people are still looking at how they can browse without paying for data. They don't want to pay for anything. Can you see how Nigerians think. People dont want to pay for the services they enjoy. See the way people are reacting with insults and showcasing tribalism up and down on Nairaland... is it a leader or religion that instruct them to do that? No Our thinking is terribly bad. We are not thinking straight. We all need to go to a school of Attitude and learn. Let"s know our problem. It will help us tackle it better. If we change our attitude, our leadership will change automatically. Leaders don't come down from heaven. It comes from the people. Africans! Change your attitudes and watch your continent blossom. Thanks 2 Likes |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Xclusivedaniel6(m): 12:15am On Jul 22, 2019 |
paxonel: Attitude comes first before religion 3 Likes |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by paxonel(m): 12:19am On Jul 22, 2019 |
Xclusivedaniel6:exactly 2 Likes |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by ABOVEDELAW: 2:55am On Jul 22, 2019 |
BEFORE RELIGION(CHRISTIANITY) CAME, WHAT WERE YOUR ANCESTORS ACHIEVEMENTS THAT RELIGION DREW BACKWARDS? NPComplete: |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by ABOVEDELAW: 2:58am On Jul 22, 2019 |
HOW RICH AND FORWARD WAS AFRICA BEFORE THE COMING (RELIGION) CHRISTIANITY? princeogbeide1: |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by anonimi: 4:25am On Jul 22, 2019 |
Tellemall: Do not perish for lack of knowledge. Please read and free yourself from ignorance by seeking out similar stories to enlighten you. Nigeria: 8000-Year-Old Dufuna Canoe Finally Gets a Home http://www.megaliths.org/browse/category/9/view/230 https://guardian.ng/features/astronomy-and-aesthetics-at-otobo-ugwu-1/ Lejja: Enugu’s ancient iron smelting community 1 Like |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by anonimi: 4:28am On Jul 22, 2019 |
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Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Lekison(m): 7:27am On Jul 22, 2019 |
DarkJeddi:you claim those countries are underdeveloped and poor, if Nigeria can be as poor and undeveloped as Dubai, Italy and Saudi Arabia believe me bro nobody will complain. instead of fighting religion as an excuse for our failure and incompetence, why don't we work on our attitude. being religious, doesn't make you a good person it is your attitude that shows who you are. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by NPComplete: 7:56am On Jul 22, 2019 |
ABOVEDELAW: So Christianity is the only religion to you abi? I am talking about religion generally. You are talking about Christianity. Christianity encourages backwardness as much as the traditional religions do. So stop trying to form some sort of Christian exclusivity. 1 Like |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Boyooosa(m): 6:11pm On Jul 22, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:even the pikin wey dat woman carry fear |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by GoodBoi1(m): 7:39pm On Jul 22, 2019 |
We all know it is a coded attack against Christianity not just "religion" if you read the posts of those claiming religion is the cause of their lives' problems, checkout their illustrations you will notice that they are majorly attacking Christianity as if it is the only religion mtcheew... They have failed before they even started Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 1 Like |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Nobody: 7:40am On Jul 23, 2019 |
princeogbeide1: Okay Prince |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Khaleell001(m): 6:54pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
paxonel: Your whole conclusion are based on faulty premises. Religion itself has nothing to do with what you are trying to rope around it. No religion says you should sit and hope on God Not even Islām (my religion). Islam even forbids you to sit down and hope with planing or putting up a strategy approach to issues. And there are many verses and prophetic statement urging all these I am saying. My friend, religion has nothing to do with what you people are mouthing off. Go check your thinking pattern,it does not follow. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by paxonel(m): 9:35pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
Khaleell001:really? Tell me, are there no churches today which tells their members they have dominion and double portion as indicated on steakers below? This is just from one sect. Other sects like RCCG, Deeper life, Christ embassy, etc have their own steakers like these which are geared at giving people unrealistic hopes of having financial breakthrough just mere becoming their member. Now, don't get me wrong. It's good to give church members hope, but that should be done by encouraging these people to get themselves engaged in a carrier that will bring money to them. But many of the church members are poor, many of them are unemployed who still live from hand to mouth, yet they have dominion. A situation where you go to church and all you hear are testimonies of breakthrough from church members, one will begin to think that break through comes by being a mere church member which is not true. That alone is misleading and somehow advance fraud(going by the tithe and offering these church members pay in order for them to be enlightened which they are not) It's a sign that the church members involve are not intelligent . It happens in mosques too And by extention, it shows the mental state of the country that Africans are truly backward.
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Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Khaleell001(m): 10:30pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
paxonel: All you bid to bash religious folks you say it happens in mosques too. I will quote a prophetic statement which will end this whole argument, but remember, I am only speaking based on what the religious scripture of Islām says not Christianity. Anas ibn Malik reported: A man from the Ansar came to the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and begged from him. The Prophet said, “Have you nothing in your house?” The man said, “Yes, a piece of cloth, a part of which we wear and a part of which we spread on the ground, and a wooden bowl from which we drink water.” The Prophet said, “Bring them to me.” The man brought these articles to him and the Prophet took them in his hands and he said, “Who will buy these?” Someone said, “I will buy them for one coin.” The Prophet said twice or thrice, “Who will offer more than one coin?” Someone said, “I will buy them for two coins.” He sold them for two coins and the Prophet said, “Buy food with one of them and give it to your family. Buy an axe and bring it to me.” The man brought it to him. The Prophet fixed a handle on it with his own hands and he said, “Go gather firewood and sell it, and do not let me see you for a fortnight.” The man went away and gathered firewood and sold it. When he had earned ten coins, he came and bought a garment and food. The Prophet said, “This is better for you than for begging to come as a blemish on your face on the Day of Resurrection. Begging is only appropriate for three people: one in grinding poverty, one in serious debt, and one who must pay a difficult compensation.” Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 1641 Now tell me where does Islām (religion) encourages poverty mentality when even the promoter of the religion condemns begging how much sitting without work log but on hope. I don't need to cite more evidences for this suffices. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by GoodBoi1(m): 10:49pm On Jul 25, 2019 |
paxonel:Funny enough religion does not encourage laziness and I can show you A LOT of scriptures from the bible, even those churches you mentioned do not encourage their members to be lazy. If you have attended any of them you will know. We believe we are blessed therefore we put our faith to work. Even the bible says faith without works is dead. We believe in the supernatural too. I don't think there is any wisdom you can tell me that can't be backed with scriptures. The scriptures teach against laziness |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by paxonel(m): 9:51pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
GoodBoi1:very true! but what's your take on the issue of miracle of quick prosperity like Dominion, breakthrough or whatever promised by pastors to church members? Is it scriptural that God is in the business of granting unmerited favour to Christians who are committed to church? If it is not scriptural, why are pastors keep giving church members such hopes of prosperity? I tell you, a lot of Christians have abandoned hard work thinking they will be favoured by God as promised by these pastors and the favour is not coming, so a lot of them keep wallowing in poverty hoping that rescue will miraculously show up someday. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by paxonel(m): 10:02pm On Jul 26, 2019 |
Khaleell001:have you ever visited the northern part of Nigeria before? There is an Islamic system known as almajiri which encourage children to beg. What do you say to that?
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Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by GoodBoi1(m): 4:46pm On Jul 29, 2019 |
paxonel: As seen in the scriptures I believe that nothing is impossible for God to do. Also, God favours the righteous and blesses the work of their hands but they must play their own part putting in the work to demonstrate their faith and God will do what man can not do. If you look at several miracles in the bible, you will see a pattern, they occur after man has done his part then God does the miracle. So if we are blessed and favored, we cannot just keep lying down on our bed and expecting money to fall from the sky, we have to put in the effort because it is a proof that we believe Ps 5: 12 Surely, LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield. Ps 90:17 May the favor of the Lord our God rest on us; establish the work of our hands for us-- yes, establish the work of our hands. Ps. 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. The blessings of the Lord is real but we must work in line if we believe. A person cannot make efforts when he/she is unsure 2Thess. 3:10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat. 1 Like |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by sholay2011(m): 5:36pm On Jul 29, 2019 |
Great thread and thumbs up to OP! It's only foolish people pretending to be 'woke' that will blame religion (at least, solely) as the reason for Africa's backwardness. Some think being atheist makes them look/sound intelligent. It doesn't. |
Re: Religion Is Not The Reason For Backwardness In Africa, Our Leaders Are by Amujale(m): 9:07pm On Jul 29, 2019 |
Great Nations dont have the time to be lapping up fakery, there are people on the continent that cannot wait to rise beyond greater heights. Religion is supposed to make one relative to virtuosness. Virtuosness is a fun and nice quality to have. Religion is not the problem its all the Abrahamic ones that are, they peddle falsities, fakery and manufactured history. Ultimately, all those Abrahamic religions built themselves around the exploitation of the continent. Yes, all the Abrahamic religions are the reason for the current African situation, including our leaders. |
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