diordaves:


Honourable, look at the situation this way:

If the tradesperson contacted you that your materials have been stolen at his business premises, what would be your expectations?

My expectations would include the tradesperson replacing the stolen materials through their insurance or from their pocket. The insurance (security) of any business premises is the responsibility of the "registered" owner.

From your own account, you are the resident contractor at that site. You are responsible to provide insurance (security) for all goods stored overnight. Three cases of theft are alleged to have been reported to you. It is your responsibility to investigate the thefts and take appropriate actions which could include instructing that no tools should be stored overnight at site and further to advise all that any tools and materials stored overnight are at owners risk.

From your own account, you have failed to do the above. As the resident contractor, your insurance is liable for any theft at site for goods and materials stored overnight.

You should sit him down over a cold drink and arrive at a reasonable compensation for his missing tools.

I am sorry, but you have not managed your site to the standard expected from a multi million project.

From your comment you have not held the sub contractor liable . Meaning contractor bears 100% loss. wow.

Your not even taking about shared responsibility. At this point Nigerians need to start taking law classes.
Meanwhile theft was reported to the estate CSO. some top security staff were sacked. We have even installed cctv cameras after the event.

michlins:
he doesn't need to do the heavy lifting himself to be the fabricator. He can be engaged in more than two sites and wouldn't have to do the whole thing himself.

I'm a welder and at any point in ti, I have two people working at my workshop daily. The more jobs I am engaged with, the extra hands I get. It doesn't make me a middleman or something like that


Attached are pictures of two people who are working for me right now. Others are still engaged and others closed for the day

This is understandable. But two months of intensive fabrication and you only come twice is that the usual thing?.

Akerewe:


Adeward am bn advice to run from u as u can see, who & who can vouch for you on this thread?? Let them come out nd vouch for you base on ur job delivery nd Integrity with them.

Then how do u intend to sought out thins with this particular guy calling you out??

Don't forget that ORUKO RERE, OSANJU WURA ATI FADAKA LO!

Drop ur WhatsApp number here nd ur office address.


If no one can vouch for you on this thread then you have a lot of job to do

One thing you should know. He didn't do any of the fabrication work on my site himself. He has two fabricators working for him. He Only came to my site twice. Aside that the boys working for him are fast and good.

Deeegbee:


The guy said you and your team compelled him leave the working tools on your site.

Who is telling the truth and who is lying?

we didn't compel him. Let's allow the issue die.
He has achieved his objective, which was to walk way with my N1m+ balance and You guys here allowed it.
Peace profound 🙏

floshady02:
@raymondFirstborn you guys are just bringing yourselves down on this thread. What potential client would read all these allegations and still want to patronize y’all. Na wa ooo

I want People to see how I have offered him different options. From leasing of equipment, to installmental payment. I even promised him he would recoup from other stages of my projects. The man has not made any move to move forward.

everyone here is pointing the accusing finger at me the client.

ADEDWARD future clients are also seeing this .
After giving him N7,000,000. Someone else has to tidy up the job. I paid him for, because he has decided to inflate the cost of materials missing. Bye

Deeegbee:


The Client compelled him to keep the tools on his Site against the handy man's wish!!

They say he who pays the piper dictates the tune.

I didn't insist he leave his tools behind for Christmas. He only asked if the estate was secured and I said it was. He had a choice to take his tools.

Deeegbee:


The Client compelled him to keep the tools on his Site against the handy man's wish!!

They say he who pays the piper dictates the tune.

I didn't compel him, To keep his tools . We closed December, gave him funds. He decided on his own to leave his tools for the holiday. He had a choice.

Rany4all:
Yes I would take part or full responsibility if I guaranteed security for his tools.

If an artisan keeps his tools at my site without my knowledge or without me guaranteeing security, especially knowing that materials have gone missing from same site on several occasions in the past, then that artisan is on his own.

I have personally taken artisans' tools home just to keep them safe, but that's only when such tools were handed over to me or I guaranteed security for them.

Offer him a project if you do trust his comments.

Deeegbee:



Why should you say you will rent tools for him? You are after him completing your job and not showing remorse or plan on replacing his missing tools, knowing fully well you advised him to keep his tools on your site against his wish.

How do you expect an artisan to feed himself and his family without a WORKING TOOL? Have you showed any concern on how he has been surviving since his tools got missing from your site? How do you expect him to execute jobs given to him from other Clients?

I read one of your posts where you claimed his generator was at the end of its Lifespan, is that what a reasonable person should argue on?

What if he has no access to source for another working tool?

Please, let us show empathy!!!

Fix or replace his tools and then come back to Nairaland to report him if he doesn't complete the job given to him.

You just don't come here and label innocent people as scammers!!!

The tools he is talking about 600k would cover
You guys don't understand. My balance of N1m+ is with him. Meanwhile I offered to rent his tools , while we replace the materials in installment. You don't think he would get to eat from the installments. When we replace the materials, you don't think he would make money from installments of 500k.

Rany4all:
These are just allegations Sir. If you can prove it, please go ahead. Even if it's "I pass my neighbor" generator, wouldn't the estate security notice it?

By the way, he can also allege that you or your staff took away the tools as well.

The question is, if this happened to you guys, would u buy back both materials and tools.

I really hope everyone supporting him, experiences this same situation. That's the only way humans understand.

If ADEDWARD had accepted to work with borrowed tools like i told him debts would have been paid in installments.
But he is hiding something .

Why doesn't he want to work with rented tools. Because he doesn't have money to continue, meanwhile he connected money weeks before the issue.
Another issue is the inventory which he inflated, because my team took inventory before the theft.

Well my loss. Good luck with him finding prospective clients.

You guys have not asked adedward which tools he has been working with. After he left my project.

Rany4all:
Only if you can prove it Sir...

Would the estate security allow him to carry a generator and an aluminum cutting machine out of the estate without permission?

if he bribes his way through. It's possible.but very small items. As small as machines.

There's also a possibility that adedward has been to the site to take his tools while we were on Christmas break.
Because ADEDWARD told me he has been handling other projects aside my own project.

Please ask adedward which tools he has been using to execute other projects.

dangoteinlaw:
does this mean that you only want him to finish your work but you are not concerned about his missing tools?

I have accepted my loss on materials, he should do the same for his tool.
That's business bro .

You don't get it. We have offered to rent tools pending when we are able to raise funds. He just doesn't want to carry on

Rany4all:
Materials got missing from a supposedly secure site on more than a couple of occasions, and both of you still decided to store more materials and a couple of expensive tools at the same site over a festive period? Not a smart decision in my opinion.

I think this is a matter of both of you making a serious mistake that has unfortunately resulted in huge losses, which in my opinion should be shared by both of you.

@raymondFirstborn has accepted to replace missing materials which he rightly should. Now the issue in contention is who takes the hit for the missing tools? @Adedward you knew fully well that the site wasn't secure, inspite of reassurances from raymondFirstborn, yet went ahead to keep your expensive tools there over an extended period, so I belief you have to also take some responsibility for the missing tools. I think both of you should share the cost for the tools. Both of you just need to discuss amicably and come to an agreement on how to achieve this.

In the mean time, raymondFirstborn's offer of completing the job with rented tools might not be such a bad idea.

Just my thoughts!!!

On this issue of missing materials, the estate sacked one of the estate Security supervisors, transfered a lot of the security guys. Now this is an estate where police officers patrol every evening. I mean each street has a security officer on standby. You cant take large materials outside estate without permit.

Adedward:
don't ever use that words for me who is threatening u, u are the one brought it here, what I am asking u is to get me the tools, I have many work to do outside, I can't be waiting for ever,

why do i need to provide your tools. The 7m I gave to you is it for materials or tools?

Adedward:
I wonder ooo, that is what the missing materials worth now, if he go to market he will know what am saying, I have told him, if he get all what they stole including tools, then we will come back to finish it,

Is it missing materials you need or the glass to to continue. You haven't provided glass for most of the windows. At least finish the windows then while we sort out missing materials for sliding doors.

Engineers in the house can verify readings of the test done by lagos state.
Instead of ADEDWARD to focus on best possible way to handle the situation. He has been threatening me his client.

Meanwhile my building has been certified by lagos state. We carried out structural integrity test.
Result came out 100%.

Adedward:
Good evening house, pls avoid Raymond firstborn called him self an engineer, he is not competent to handle a toilets,

He contacted me to do some windows for him with agreed prices, and he ask me to verbricate on site, I ask him about his site, how it was save, and said it 💯 save,

He paid, and material was delivered like 5 working days, his team was stole materials in mid night, he was told , and said we should use that to removed burglaries from the project, which I was agreed,

In the second week, we discovered missed again, and was told, he said he will find something to do on it, I gave him the list of what they stole in the second place,

On December last year, they want to close estate for new year, I personally ask him about the safety again, he said no probs he have provided some securities and he described where we should keep our tools, it was this January that estate resume, that his team confirm that all the materials and generator wit cutting machine has been stoled, and Raymond first didn't do anything to it since that months till now, he is not competent to be an engineer, pls avoid him, he can not handle a room talkless of duplex,



PLS AVOID HIM OOO, ITS NOT COMPETENT AT ALL, I WILL BE EXPOSING HIS WORK HERE START FROM TOMORROW,

Please show us the glass you supplied for the windows.

The issue now is Adedward doesn't need the missing materials to continue the work. What he needs to continue is the glass for the windows, so he can at least install the panel he has coulpled.Which he said he won't bring until I buy his tools back. Meanwhile we are trying to raise funds for the missing materials.

Meanwhile we are offering to rent tools for him to complete the job. He has refused.

bolu1986:


Am not defending anyone he said 65 percent of the work has been done… how come you still have 3m worth of materials stolen?

The estate securities should be questioned, cause that’s a lot of materials right there… you need to work work with your engr to resolve this

He only fabricated the windows. But glass for most has not been brought to site. Imagine windows without glass. My Giant windows for the front yet to be fixed. Glass has not been provided.
65% of work done is fabrication. He fabricated a large amount of the windows but is yet to provide glass .all he needs to is provide glass and install the ones he has fabricated. Then we can sort the missing ones as I raise funds.

Adedward:
Good evening house, pls avoid Raymond firstborn called him self an engineer, he is not competent to handle a toilets,

He contacted me to do some windows for him with agreed prices, and he ask me to verbricate on site, I ask him about his site, how it was save, and said it 💯 save,

He paid, and material was delivered like 5 working days, his team was stole materials in mid night, he was told , and said we should use that to removed burglaries from the project, which I was agreed,

In the second week, we discovered missed again, and was told, he said he will find something to do on it, I gave him the list of what they stole in the second place,

On December last year, they want to close estate for new year, I personally ask him about the safety again, he said no probs he have provided some securities and he described where we should keep our tools, it was this January that estate resume, that his team confirm that all the materials and generator wit cutting machine has been stoled, and Raymond first didn't do anything to it since that months till now, he is not competent to be an engineer, pls avoid him, he can not handle a room talkless of duplex,



PLS AVOID HIM OOO, ITS NOT COMPETENT AT ALL, I WILL BE EXPOSING HIS WORK HERE START FROM TOMORROW,

See pictures below my windows have not been installed.
This guy must be really sick. Do you know what it takes to develop two units of 4bedroom duplex. N120m spent so far.
After paying you N7m this is what I get .

Adedward:
u haven't sincerely with ur explanation,

Show us the glass you supplied on site. My 2m x 3m glasses. For my windows

This is the face of ADEDWARD. please do not give him your project. He has refused to be honest with me. I have been quiet for months, trying to raise funds. But he has been threatening to use money for my materials to replace his tools. He has not taken any step to recover the materials. Since March.

Adedward:
did ur material not supplyed after payment, ?

Incomplete materials. Did you supply all the Glass for the windows.

I don't want to talk much, I have accepted my faith. I just don't want anyone on this platform to fall victim. After transferring N7m, you didn't take any step to recover the missing materials.

DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH ADEDWARD.

Adedward:
can u listening to ur self, in ur own site,? Before I moved materials to ur site, I ask u, ( is ur site saved,) the answer was yes, that ur engineer and other security was there,
In the first time we went for weekend, they stole materials, I told u about it, u said we should use it to cancel the burglaries den, the second time I told u, u said u will find solutions to it, the thirds one, they carry all the rest materials with my tools, { generator and cutting machine like (#1m) the material Worth 3m, the next things u are telling me to come and start working, u will rent machine for me, hmmmm, am just laughing

This guy is an unrepentant liar. Mini sized Generator that was at end of its lifespan market value of 150k. Cutting machine less than 500k - 400k. How does this equate to N1m. If you were genuine, with a twin detached duplex, you would have made enough money to buy back your tools. From glass railings, cubicle you would have made enough to recoup your loses.

Even when I was planning on replacing materials in installments, you still didn't want to continue work. You inflated the quantity of missing materials, even when my site team took inventory .

Transact with Adedward at your own risk. He is a dishonest opportunitist .

Adedward:
u promised me that ur site was save, and they stole materials Worth of 3m and tools worth of 1m, and u are asking me to come and start working, what do u think u are doing, if u ready u know what to do, u are not competent to handle a site,

An estate with security officers patrolling. Anyone who knows megamound, knows how secure it is. Police officers patrol daily. Issue of theft was unlikely.

Akerewe:
An expert in this field should drop price for the job below

How much is casement windows

4*5 casement
3*4 casement
2*2 casement
2*2 sliding
With nets
Without burglary
Blue reflective 5mm glass
Grey colour
Thick imported materials

Please avoid adedward. He has no conscience and is a liar.

Adedward:
u are doing ur self, u don't know the next things to do, explained to the house how ur people stole my material I bought 3 times, and my cutting machine with generator,

Are you really serious here. Is this what you have to say. After paying you over N7m this is your excuse. Why would i steal materials for my own project on my owm site.

ADEYEMO IDOWU EDWARD
0213151983
GTBank Plc

This is his account details and name. Please do. Not transact with Adedward.

Meanwhile since the incident of theft. Adedward has not visited the site since March till now. He only sent his boys in month of March. But personally he hasn't made any effort to recover any of the missing materials. No police report from him nothing.

Even when I promised to rent tools for him , to continue he said he won't continue till buy new tools. Generator and cutting machine.