There's no state in Nigeria where people won't sell votes for what's essentially nothing, be it bread, spaghetti, rice, 5K or a combination of all of these. Na person wey neva see suffer wey dey outside go dey begrudge person wey dey sell vote for bread. Keep people hungry and uneducated and they'd sell for pure water sef, that's APC's guiding philosophy...a country of bread queues.

BlueRayDick:


The kind of money these thugs in Lagos have access to

They motor parks, network provider Masts, illegal car parks, market levies, building projects, etc. If u go to Balogun or Idumota at 2am when Igbo traders are having their container being unloaded from trailer, u will meet Agberos there to collect money. Like, those guys run 24hrs shift . If you go to Alaba , before a truck laden with container will gain acccess into the market they would've paid toll at different points on their way into the market.

There's no how u will see the kind of money they make on the streets in Lagos and u won't want to clean up urself and ur family. That's why those actresses and other beautiful ladies always end up as either their wives or mistresses. The money long.

Like, the money long die.

Another thing I got to discover was some of these thugs are linked to local traditional leaders, they send these boys out to areas they control, and those boys at the end of each day deliver collections. Like if you see the extent to which this agbero thing is entrenched, you'd understand why e go hard certain politicians to win Lagos...and this is just entrenchment around agbero's o, you neva talk CEO's, waste management guys, contractors, etc. If you don watch the movie Gangs of New York, you don see Lagos agberoism culture finish...at best it's a notch higher than that.

BlueRayDick:


Asari Dokubo u mean.

Yeah it's surprising that despite the kind of wealth he has amassed to the extent of owning a university in Benin republic, he still goes around with rough looking guys brandishing rocket launchers.

Yea, Dokubo, na im I mean.

BlueRayDick:


Well, dem MC Oluomo cleaned up long time ago. You would hardly see any top Agbero who has made it to the pinnacle of their thuggery business move around with arms and ammunition.

It is their foot soldiers that do the fighting for them once they move up the food chain. You would rather see police escort with MC Oluomo than see him brandishing guns and knives himself.

I guess in the Niger Delta u must show what u've got before people fear u on the streets. Maybe that's why dem Tompolo, Asari, Kabaka , etc always move with arms and ammunitions.

The culture around thugging in a particular place also plays a role in what underlings can aspire towards. Dokubo by now don suppose leave some of the things e dey do, surprised he's still so deeply involved. Only a couple days ago, I saw video of him giving some of these Ijaw Youth Council boys water from one drum to drink...all of dem wear white, dem reach like 300+ persons, of different ages, na dat place Itsrm say dey safe

LordAdam16:


Is he tho'.

The Cartels, Mafia, Triads all favor progenies joining the family business.
Why should it be different for our gangs?

We actually want dynasties and cohesive structures in the underworld.
The upstarts in Mexico took brutality to new heights in trying to make a name for themselves.
If El Padrino's vision had borne out. The cartels would have become like the Mafia families.
Violence when necessary but be multi-billion dollar orgz in both the black (drug dealing) and grey markets (resorts, agriculture, mining, CRE).

If his kid has the aptitude or wants to go corporate, fine.
But if his kid wants to be a Chapito, by all means.
Organized crime in Nigeria is safer for higher-ups than in many hotspots
We've essentially institutionalized it.
When Tompolo runs a security outfit and has contracts with the Presidency, why won't a dark scion see it as a promising career path?
We're no longer in the rent a gun to go for operations era anymore. That's for the bottom-feeders.

-Lord

Another angle, for some of these thugs, completely insulating their kids from the game could mean leaving everything on the table when their time's come. There are many things that also determine the nature in which these people's kids get involved in thugging too. For Benin for example, the full extent of industries you can penetrate with thugging no pass motor parks, street traders, oni le and some small time thing...bar these things, what much else can he be involved in that'd give him that street money...not so much.

MC Oluomo is a Lagos thug, so his perspective is going to be quite different, there's more than enough for him to completely leave the streets and focus on bigger picture things. His son is MIT educated, and from the way I've seen him on SM, he's not a softie at all, that MIT degree plus his dads control of the thuging machinery could create some really deadly fellow, and there's tons of industries available for him to apply himself within Lagos if he so desires.

Tompolo is another thug that seems to be moving smart, and this is made easier with access to the Niger Delta oil thing.

Amigoss:


Wow!!!

I just knew few hours ago that Bob izua was kabaka's uncle....

With Apc now in,The whole ring road,transporters and market women about to see shege....

Ah, it was open now, there was even one time they were competing, Kabaka was on the come-up and Bob Izua in his last legs, and Kabaka would come to ITV and start crying that Bob Izua is oppressing him that people should help him beg ...was all part of him playing underdog and portraying himself as victim sha, but it was funny to see then.

raumdeuter:


Then Kabaka would be stupidd. He knows the street and its not for faint hearted, you are always 5mins from a bullet.
See McOluomo, All his children are abroad, he has set them up for a better life, Sunday Igboho all his children are abroad

Any street gangster wey involve his own biological child in street warfare does not love that child, that you can disappear and enter into a rabbit hole does not mean your child can. And you child is a soft target for your enemies

True, however much they say Oluomo is a thug and whatnot, he's always made a conscious effort to posture like a respectable member of society, I've never seen any picture or video of Mc Oluomo with a gun...I remember they shot him a few years back, but that's as much as I know of him personally involved in violence... the man always makes effort to code. Compare that with a Kabaka or say an Asari Dokubo, and it's something else entirely....those guys would in their 70s still be forming hard man.

I think these thugs that don't try to code their thugging would find it hard to completely insulate their kids from the game, plus there are kids that however much you try would sha want to be involved in family biz.

Amigoss:


Hehehe,you sabi ......Bob izua was a menace back then....

Would you believe that Kabaka's son is already in on the thuggin game?

Same way Kabaka took over from his Uncle Bob Izua, won't be surprised if this Kabaka's son takes over at some point down the road...proper family business it has become.

Amigoss:
Theflint1, so your guy get PhD from UI and Bsc from Uniben but communicates like Bob izua

As you take see am na so I take see am, if dem say e get PhD, e get.

izzou:


Na Monday be this?

Na e street name be that...at least that's what was they were calling him during rallies

raumdeuter:


But Edo election was not stolen, the people on ground just preferred Monday and rejected Godfatherism and Obaseki wey fight everyone

Eye wey dey cry dey see road...Akpakomiza is someone you'd shock with some basic 2* and he'd stutter...man was rejected but was rigged in.

I understand you're in Izzou's Whatsapp group of anything INEC declares is true, so I get the justifications around your position.

BlueRayDick:


cc: Theflint1

PDP and Asue Ighodalo were always going to get votes, the best that'd have achieved was split votes and make the rigging more justified. Besides Otti ran at the height of the Obidient movement, compare votes polled by LP candidates in 2023 to votes polled by them in these off-cycle elections and you'd see a marked difference.

Also, it doesn't help that Peter Obi is yet to get a firm grip on the Labor Party, that affects coalescing around candidates/ideologies, especially when these candidates are themselves not exactly strong...Olumide Akpata polled 3% of votes, I didn't even expect he'd do that badly.

GloriousGbola:


Theflint1 - the embodiment of I hate apc, therefore I am.

No actual stand, no actual convictions, no actual values. It is what it is

Even tho

At least we can all feel the effect of your values

GloriousGbola:


Theflint1 is clearly in Obasekis WhatsApp group

Throwing all the talking points

Federal intimidation
Obaseki hidden good record.
Obaseki did not mean his do or die statement
Obaseki ran an issue based campaign

Lol, any WhatsApp group you want to put me, put me, as long as it's not the one that has cornvicts.

The party you support and represent is responsible for

Since their very first year delivering double digit inflation
Reducing the quality of life of the average Nigerian
Corrupting every single institution of state
Fanning the embers of every form of bigotry
Normalizing kidnapping and terrorism

You guys like playing the I told you so game, where's the I told you so for improved quality of life, single digit inflation or safe roads for travel?

liveLongNprospa:


Lmao.
So who are you going to support next? 😁

Donjazett is dyed in the wool APC, anybody that's supported APC at least twice in last 3 election cycles is APC, they never truly repent of the values that drew them to APC.

Itsrm:


If? With what I'm seeing, the level of vote buying in 2027 will be unprecedented.

Infact, I'm starting to think the only reason people went out to vote was so they can sell the vote.

I think vote buying in nationals is a bit harder, easier to gather capital around off-cycle elections than in a general election.

Amigoss:


Even if I no be custodian but if you partake in the oiling of Apc Machinery by voting for them in Lagos,support APC if they "perform" in other states instead of LP, you are not in the right place to throw shades as to why Akpata didn't garner enough support or wonder why APC won...

LPC dem dem

BlueRayDick:


But PDP guys working for Obaseki/Asue were arrested with locally made pistols trying to perpetuate electoral violence as well.

By the way, do u have Monday's manifesto? If yes, please share with me I want to check some stuff inside.

The only candidate that bothered with a Manifesto was Asue Ighodalo, at least as far as I know.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Congratulations🎉🥳👏 to the BEST Korea. , winning USA in the semi finals then defeating Japan in the final. What a tremendous run

liveLongNprospa:


Some people here have refused to see beyond politics.
Everything about them is just trying to show "you can't change things".
It's why they are extremely happy to gloat over better candidates losing just to say "I told you, you are a baby in this game"

Lol Theflint1 is a hypocrite in his support of PDP for sure, but the one truth we all know is that his support is due to the fact that pdp and LP had the better candidates to ensure Edo State was atleast better in the long run.
People are suffering for the decisions of 2023. All of us dey feel am die.
In Delta State, alot of families are surviving on either yahoo proceeds or the family member that Japa'd.
I was speaking to my grandma recently and she told me fuel was about 1300-1400 in warri.
I just found out 1 cup of rice is between 500-600.
I remember when I posted here my genuine surprise that rice was 200 for a cup.


But as usual the people mocking LP supporters today for losing the election also mocked LP supporters for losing the 2023 election and voted T-pain just to show the game that is politics.
Now all of us dey experience shege.

But will it stop the gloating, nope. 😁

You see how Abia is getting it right with a simple decision.
We can all confidently say in 8yrs, Abia will be alot better than it is now. But I'm sure alot of people would have gloated if APC or PDP won because for them, the people can go and die just for LP with the better candidate to be taught a lesson in politics 😁

Wetin concern your average cornvict with governance, na say make dem teach LP lesson and Tinubu dey build e political skyscraper dey go be their own.

You're probably right on some hypocrisy in supporting Asue Ighodalo, some persons are more idealistic than others but whether you do idealism or not, life would go on, and sometimes it's better to give yourself a fighting chance with "okay" than get burnt shooting for ideals. However it turned out, I'm glad the actual votes represented the people coalescing around what was the pragmatic fighting chance.

folake4u:


That guy and his co-horts are a menace in Edo State.

At least when Obaseki was in charge, they were low-key and running their parole.

Now, he's the modafuckin' star boy!

@the bolded. Of course, They're usually the most hit. Edo don turn Lagos now. El O El.

I won't be surprised either.

Artisans, retirees then civil servants would be the first to collect...Oshiomhole was notorious for owing salaries, Akpakomiza would basically be continuing from there.

BlueRayDick:


But PDP guys working for Obaseki/Asue were arrested with locally made pistols trying to perpetuate electoral violence as well.

By the way, do u have Monday's manifesto? If yes, please share with me I want to check some stuff inside.

Forgive me if I'm disinclined to believe NPF doing any and everything, including framing suspects as long as it aligns with the demands of their higher-ups or those greasing their pockets.

They as well could have been Obaseki's thugs, but considering the quality of weapons they had with them, it ties into my point of Obaseki being outgunned and outmanned by the baddest of bad boys in the build-up to the elections. Have you seen the kind of guns Tony Kabaka brandishes?

folake4u:


@ the bolded. 😂😂😂

Tony Kabaka is back!! Like he never left.

I swear, Edo State is basically going to be getting a much less effective version of Oshiomhole's mediocre governance.

BlueRayDick:


Even if he had his own bad boys , do u think anybody would want to spend months in sanko for fighting for an outgoing governor of an opposition party trying to install his stooge ?

Do u know how many PDP chieftains were arrested and flown to Abuja prior to the election ? I’m sure some of them are still in detention till date.

What did Obaseki do ? He only made a press conference about it and that’s where it ends.

Why will any of this bad boys risk their freedom for someone like him who is being cowed by federal might ?

There's this too, but his government made it very clear he won't be working with bad boys, at least the most brazen of them, add this suppression from the federal might and you have what played out.

Itsrm:


Didn't take too long

Lol, you think APC Nationals want a message sent to them or care what message you want sent to them?

They're sending a message to you!

Nigeria as is, is a socially engineered experiment on state capture, the Edo election is one of many more that will be stolen, and APC would come out after those heists and say see, we're loved, if we're not loved we won't be winning...and if for any reason they choose to concede on some elections, they'd say see, we're not rigging

it's mind fvck to the nth degree, you know everything is wrong but the state manufactures evidence to tell you nothing is wrong and whatever suffering you're going through is towards greatness.

BlueRayDick:


In a nutshell a person who is few years older than u and Less accomplished than u cannot be ur godfather even if he’s the incumbent governor who anointed u as the party’s candidate ?(Obaseki is aged 67 and Asue Ighodalo 65)

Then why are we tackling Wike for trying to impose himself as Fubara’s godfather ? ( Wike is aged 56 and Fubara 49)

Wike has the streets on hold and you can see he's been using that to full effect...what will be Obaseki's leverage abeg?

Abi you didn't see how he was chased out of collation center like a leper by their Tony Kabaka and his boys?

Even though I get why he was saying that Do and Die thing, it was very funny to see the full extent of his Do and Die...I thought him saying that would have meant he had his own bad boys ready to go toe to toe election day, but apparently na the nerds, civil servants and softies e pack full body since e wan use run Do and Die

BlueRayDick:
Just look 👀 at Tunde Bakare 🤦‍♂️

https://x.com/yelesowore/status/1837711821890806142?s=46

With guys like Tunde Bakare and Wole Soyinka, very easy to see why Nigerian's are cynical about people preaching change and whatnot.

For Bakare, he seems to have been cut off from the spoils, and everything he preached against then worse has been done by the guys he got in bed with...he can't speak now cause he got in too deep and any attempt to speak they'd play his tapes for him and rub him potopoto sharp sharp.

Soyinka in that has first fascist essay made it clear he has no belief in the Nigerian state/dream, and would rather everyone does their own thing...I want to believe that explains his sentiments for the Emi Lo Kan/Yoruba Lo Kan he's lined up behind, it's understandable.

BlueRayDick:


Normally Theflint1 supposed take that as a win(more reason why they should’ve supported Akpata and LP the third force ) but na him really know where the shoe Dey pain am for leg on this Edo elections matter sha

Obaseki would have never successfully pulled off godfather, he didn't have the streets on chokehold enough to do that.

Besides if e wan do Godfather, is it with a candidate that's roughly same age as him, arguably more accomplished professionally, and better perceived and like than him, that even those that campaigned against AI are still having to make clear that they have no issues with him per se, their issues were with Obaseki.

Asue Ighodalo was supposed to be a continuation of Edo accomplished professionals taking reins of the affairs of the state (Obaseki - AI), that's what it looked like, and that's what Obaseki said too, even some of the Edo's I saw online sticking their necks out for AI solidified that impression.

BlueRayDick:


This ur assessment of Obaseki’s tenure in 2024 is quite in contrast what what u thought of him in 2022. Why?

Did he suddenly achieve all of the bolded above within space of 2 years or what happened ?

And u mentioned Godfatherism in ur 2022 post. Don’t u think Asue winning would’ve amounted to Godfatherism being entrenched by Obaseki who opposed it during his own tenure ?

2022 to 2024 is a long time, overtime got more informed on where he was channeling his effort towards and personally had reason to visit health facilities and government ministries in the state.

When I made mention of streetlights et al...that's what I mean by the low-hanging fruits...street lights, a clean looking city, roads, landscaping...the sort of things that would immediately strike you in the face when you come to a city to make you feel like work's being done here. Those are very important, so too are the things he chose to channel energy towards, I just think he should have found a way to sort of balance things, but he didn't seem to be someone that cared how he was perceive, just wants to do focus on what he wants to focus on.

Obaseki's first tenure was him having to go through the sort of SIM Fubara situation, so maybe you can say there was too much going on for him to really implement his ideas properly, so in a sense his government sort of kicked off in his second term.

Amigoss:


...The civil service and pensioners might be the first hit,the 70k minimum wage they currently enjoying might be slashed back to 30k as no states is paying that officially....

On roads where obaseki failed,let's see if he would also neglect or leverage on APC at the center which has "anybody that votes for APC again in Ebonyi is right to do so" because Umahi works......If Federal roads no improve for Edo by 2027,we know who to drag for this thread

The people that have been celebrating on the thread don't care whether roads get fixed or not, if you like drag them with the party's inevitable failure from today till tomorrow, dawan no concern them. Ask them now why they've been celebrating since morning and they'd tell you that they told you Tinubu knows how to build party more than any other politician...you'd tell them the man is building party at their expense, and the best you'd get from them is some incoherent babble

Civil servants ate good under Obaseki, na dem go miss am pass...he did some good work in the education, entertainment, tourism, ICT and to some extent, health...you're right on him failing in road construction, he missed too many low hanging fruits, the sort of things that'd hit you in the face as pertains governance...his disregard for optics was always an issue, and probably the source of the many battles he found himself fighting.

liveLongNprospa:


OH no.
Edo people are absolutely fvcked.
Both federal and state fvcked.

State's always been kinda fvcked, at least since 1999, on average won't be any less fvcked than the rest of the country...APC will find oil.

liveLongNprospa:


My joy is simple.
PDP cannot accuse LP of being a spoiler.


Theflint1 Obaseki must have really messed with alot of people

He pissed off touts like Kabaka and rogue politicians like Oshiomhole... Probably should have been more diplomatic especially with issues pertaining to the palace, but it's what it is, he'd be alright so too would Asue Ighodalo. The people who won't be alright are those who'd suffer misgovernance from the state and the federal government.