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Romance / Re: (OPINION) Don't be deceived, Polygamy is not a sin? by Toks2008(m): 5:14am On Apr 30
Veecruz:


Was it a holy and sinless nation that God took and called to His Own?

Were they not a sin filled people who had wives and did abominations just like the nations around them before God gave them His Laws?

Did you not read that these are JUDGMENTS?

R Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!!

Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away


This proves that all who say God approves polygamy and do not condemn it are Liars and Devils and children of Satan!

And before you argue, your brother in ptonciple has already said it here and answered him!

advocatejare:
Please stop misinterpreting the Bible out of context.

To get the better understanding of the verse you quoted, start reading from verse 14, God was talking about the king of Israel not the general population and he didn’t say that he forbade polygamy, He just said that the King must not acquire many wives for himself so that they don’t turn his heart away, Solomon broke this law and they turned away his heart from God

14“When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it and dwell in it [/b]and then say, [b]I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me“

Then verse 17 made us know that God was talking about the King

“And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold”

Veecruz
And I have respectfully asked all of you saying this
"from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel?

And thank God you said tto get a better understanding you we should start from verse 14, "When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it.." who is the "you" there? Is it a King or the people?

And in line with this Law did God ever choose a king having wives?

So, you are lying and doing.like satan


Deuteronomy 17:17 advises against kings multiplying wives for themselves. While it doesn't directly label polygamy as a sin, it suggests that having multiple wives could lead a man's heart astray. So, this verse doesn't strictly say that polygamy is a sin, but it does caution the kings against it due to its potential spiritual consequences.


You wrote all these historical, rhetorical and ecclesiastical mumbo jumbo yet you failed to address the main crux of the matter.
IS POLYGAMY A SIN ?

iF YES please quote a scripture that specifically says so and i will give you $500. If i don't please call me out on nairaland and any social media platform.

Please avoid quoting me any longer except you have the scriptural reference. Cheers.
Religion / Re: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Toks2008(m): 5:40pm On Apr 28
Veecruz:
See how polygamist have secretly and privately changed the meaning of adultery in their filthy hearts and minds to cover the fact that they know they are doing the.wrong and disobeying God! grin

One said!


We have the standard definition of adultery and the biblical definition.

According to the standard dictionary definition, adultery specifically applies to full sexual intercourse between a man and woman when at least one of them is married to someone else.

But biblically, adultery is said to have really taken place if a married woman is involved in sxual relationship with a man she is not married to or if a married man sleeps with another man's wife.

But when a married man sleeps with a single lady, that is not adultery but fornication but it is also a sin as terrible as adultery.
Romance / Re: (OPINION) Don't be deceived, Polygamy is not a sin? by Toks2008(m): 5:39pm On Apr 28
Lalasticlala you should take a look at this informative thread .
Romance / Re: (OPINION) Don't be deceived, Polygamy is not a sin? by Toks2008(m): 5:39pm On Apr 28
Magnoliaa:


Please, where are the verses against polyandry? Or a verse that says polyandry is a sin?

And what do you think of incest, or inter-marriage between distant cousins/relatives and ôral sex - seeing as the former seems permissible and the latter is a SILENT topic in the Bible?

Looking forward to you light-shedding and clear responses. :-)

I hope i could create a thread on this but i am beginning to get tired creating threads here on this site cos as i dey do am for free, i dont like my threads just getting relegated to the background cos i dish out great contents.

Anyways back to your questions.


1. In all sincerity, the Bible doesn't explicitly mention polyandry, the consistent portrayal of marriage throughout both the Old and New Testaments involves one husband and one wife and in some descriptive instances, one man and many wives which implies that polyandry is against the Bible's teachings. But not explicitly stated.

2. The Bible contains several passages that prohibit incestuous relationships. Leviticus 18 outlines various forbidden sexual relationships, including those within families. Here are some relevant verses:

Leviticus 18:6 (NIV):
“‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD."

Leviticus 18:7 (NIV):
“‘Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her."

Leviticus 18:9 (NIV):
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere."

These verses clearly prohibit sexual relations with close relatives, including parents and siblings. Therefore, marriage within families, especially with close relatives, is considered incestuous and is against Biblical teachings.


3. The Bible does not explicitly mention MouthAction. Therefore, there is no direct biblical prohibition against it. However, interpretations vary among different Christian denominations and individual believers.

Some argue that since the Bible emphasizes sexual relations within the context of marriage and mutual respect between spouses, any sexual activity that is loving, consensual, and does not lead to harm could be considered permissible within marriage.

Others believe that any sexual activity outside of traditional intercourse for procreation is not in line with biblical teachings, regardless of whether it occurs within marriage.

As a result, opinions on MouthAction among Christians vary, and individuals often rely on their own interpretations of biblical principles and teachings from their religious leaders.

I hope i have done justice to your questions.

Pardon me for the delay.
Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Toks2008(m): 5:28pm On Apr 28
God1000:
His father married 13 wives with 53 children, so this is not surprising coming from him.


1 Corinthians 7 and states that polygamy is unlawful; and that one man is to have but one wife, and to keep to her; and that one woman is to have but one husband, and to keep to him and the wife only has a power over the husband's body, a right to it, and may claim the use of it: this power over

Delete this nonsense before you invoke curses on yourself.

What nonsense.
Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Toks2008(m): 5:27pm On Apr 28
StillDtruth:


I'm arguing on you people saying "The bible have not once condemned the idea of having two wives or more" whereas the bible via God's Laws and Ordinances has already killed polygamy especially the sin of Adultery and covenant breaking and bigamy is right in the middle of it?

So, do you think polygamy can be done without breaking A Law?

This sort of argument gives me stomach upset.

What exactly are you trying to pass across? Are we even still under law?

Polygamy is about marrying more than a wife and what is the sin if i chose to marry a virgin before i ever even sleep with her?

How many of us can actually live a sinless life by following the laws?

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Religion / Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Toks2008(m): 5:23pm On Apr 28
Is this not what i have been hammering on?
Family / Re: 10 Lessons I Learnt In My 10 Years Of Marriage by Toks2008(m): 2:50pm On Apr 09
interesting.


The best marriage is not between two romantic people neither is it between two compatible people.


The best marriage is the one between two forgivers.

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Romance / Re: I Want To Stop Having S£x With My Boyfriend's Dog, Please Help Me - Queen Primis by Toks2008(m): 6:18pm On Apr 08
fake story,

Yes many ladies who own dogs do make out with their dogs but that part where she wrote ''the dog has a very big..'' confirmed that the story is hoax.

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Romance / Re: Guys, Before You Spend On Any Lady... by Toks2008(m): 6:08pm On Apr 08
Toks2008:
It is not uncommon to hear stories of guys lamenting their investment in a lady, only to be met with betrayal or abandonment. It raises the question: do these guys expect loyalty in return for their financial contributions?

Firstly, it's essential to acknowledge that relationships are complex webs of emotions, expectations, and individual desires. While financial gestures can certainly strengthen bonds and express care, they should never serve as a bargaining chip for loyalty or devotion.

Furthermore, true emotional maturity entails the ability to give without attaching strings or expectations. If you find yourself giving with the anticipation of reciprocation, it may be a sign that you're not yet ready to navigate the nuances of relationships.

Here's a straightforward piece of advice for guys: If you're not emotionally mature enough to handle the possibility of being let down after showering a lady with gifts, money or any form of sacrifice, it might be wise to rethink your approach. Consider keeping your resources to yourself, or only give what you're comfortable losing.

Remember, the decision to spend on a lady is entirely yours, but it's essential to recognize that no amount of generosity can guarantee a lady's loyalty. Ultimately, she may still choose to move on to someone else.

Stay wise

Lalaaticlala whats your take.
Politics / Re: Sanwo-Olu Honours London-Lagos Solo Car Rider With New Car, House, Others by Toks2008(m): 5:57pm On Apr 08
misplaced priority

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Nairaland / General / Re: Based on your birth year, which of these generational groups do you belong? by Toks2008(m): 12:09pm On Apr 06
I Doubt if i will see another generation x on nairaland.

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Nairaland / General / Re: Based on your birth year, which of these generational groups do you belong? by Toks2008(m): 9:31pm On Mar 25
Gadafii:
GEN Z

Very disrespectful generation. angry

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Nairaland / General / Re: Based on your birth year, which of these generational groups do you belong? by Toks2008(m): 4:09pm On Mar 23
Chloraseptic:
Generation Y but my behavior can be likened to that of silent generation

Reincarnated perhaps.

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Nairaland / General / Re: Based on your birth year, which of these generational groups do you belong? by Toks2008(m): 4:08pm On Mar 23
Nedum001:

Gen Z
Born 1998...10th of May.

Omo, I don dey old small and momey neva dey

I can conveniently be your dad lol!

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Nairaland / General / Re: Based on your birth year, which of these generational groups do you belong? by Toks2008(m): 1:03pm On Mar 23
lalasticlala, mynd44, seun which generation do you belong to?

I am proudly Generation X

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Nairaland / General / Based on your birth year, which of these generational groups do you belong? by Toks2008(m): 12:27pm On Mar 23
Generations are typically categorized based on shared birth years and common life experiences. While there can be variations and overlap, here are some commonly recognized generations:

1. Silent Generation (The Builders): Born roughly between 1928 and 1945, the Silent Generation came of age during a period marked by significant global events like World War II and the Great Depression. They grew up in an era of economic hardship, instilling in them values of frugality, resilience, and a strong work ethic. As they matured, many became known for their traditional values, respect for authority, and commitment to duty.

2. Baby Boomers: Born approximately between 1946 and 1964, Baby Boomers represent a demographic surge following World War II. They grew up during a time of unprecedented prosperity and social change. Boomers witnessed and participated in significant cultural movements such as the civil rights era, the feminist movement, the counterculture of the 1960s, and the rise of television as a dominant cultural force. Their experiences shaped values of individualism, ambition, and social activism.

3. Generation X: Born roughly between 1965 and 1980, Generation X came of age in a period of economic uncertainty and social upheaval. They were the first generation to embrace technology as it rapidly evolved, witnessing the advent of personal computers, the internet, and mobile communication. Growing up in an era of shifting family structures, many Gen Xers value independence, adaptability, and scepticism toward institutions.

4. Millennials (Generation Y): Born approximately between 1981 and 1996, Millennials are characterized by their immersion in digital technology and globalization. They witnessed the rise of the internet, social media, and mobile devices, which profoundly influenced their communication styles and worldview. Millennials value diversity, collaboration, and work-life balance. They are often portrayed as socially conscious and environmentally aware, seeking purpose and fulfilment in their careers and personal lives.

5.Generation Z (Zoomers): Born roughly between 1997 and 2012, Generation Z is the first cohort to grow up entirely in the digital age. They are digital natives who are fluent in technology and social media platforms. Raised in an era of rapid change and global connectivity, Zoomers are known for their entrepreneurial spirit, social activism, and concern for social justice and environmental issues.

6.Generation Alpha: Born from 2013 onwards, Generation Alpha includes the children of Millennials and Generation Z. While still young, they are growing up in an increasingly connected and diverse world. Generation Alpha is expected to be highly technologically savvy, creative, and adaptable to change.

These generational labels are often used to analyse social trends, consumer behaviour, and cultural shifts, but it's important to remember that individuals within each generation are diverse and may not fit neatly into stereotypes. Additionally, definitions and boundaries of generations may vary depending on cultural and regional factors.

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Business / Re: Bitcoin Breaks $70,000 In Volatile Trading, Hitting A New Record To End The Week by Toks2008(m): 8:43am On Mar 12
superlanny:
In Nigeria a good number of uninformed ignoramauses will say crypto is a scam, and will hail the govt for banning Binance, in sane climes with sensible people they are making loads of cool money trading and dealing in cryptocurrency.

This country and its people are too backward and archaic in their thinking.

Is seun not part of the ignorant and archaic people no pun intended. How can a forum as sophisticated as this be banning topics on forex trading and cryptocurrency ?

Well its a good thing that the Nigeria govt has regulated cryptocurrency markets.

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Business / Re: Bitcoin Breaks $70,000 In Volatile Trading, Hitting A New Record To End The Week by Toks2008(m): 8:37am On Mar 12
Blitzking:
Sell before it halves..the best time to buy was sep/Nov last year. Most good alts are already up too..remember seeing solana at 8 dollars. That was the time to buy.

I will rather advise people wait to buy again .NOT TO SELL. Trading against the trend is like swimming against the tide.

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Business / Re: Bitcoin Breaks $70,000 In Volatile Trading, Hitting A New Record To End The Week by Toks2008(m): 8:36am On Mar 12
iHart:
It is hitting the ponzi level, where people will put in money, do nothing and make more money. The next level will be catastrophic!!!

Many people have no clue of how the trend works. Nothing catastrophic but its all about trend correction and continuation.

Bitcoin will correct itself again but it will keep moving higher after every correction.

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Business / Re: Bitcoin Breaks $70,000 In Volatile Trading, Hitting A New Record To End The Week by Toks2008(m): 8:30am On Mar 12
Donchieli:
People don hammer


Quick sell b4 e shock u again


Make u see sumtin take buy benz
interesting


If you like yourself just buy it. Believe it or not, it is heading towards 100k to 200k

Go watch all my analysis from 2020


This was my analysis when it was around 19k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71fHxc2btj4?si=Oa5JMfRQ_7uSLrBs

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Religion / Re: Chris Oyakhilome: Don't Send Any Of Your Wives Away If You Become Born Again by Toks2008(m): 1:18pm On Mar 10
Omoawoke:


Can pastor Chris swear with his life that since he divorced, he never nak any woman.

Who is pastor Chris fvking? Or is he impotent?
That guy is definitely shagging different girls in secret. And na them dey do abortion pass

Leave that to GOD to judge.
Religion / Re: Chris Oyakhilome: Don't Send Any Of Your Wives Away If You Become Born Again by Toks2008(m): 1:16pm On Mar 10
Image123:


Oyaks that his marriage did not work doesn't exactly have justifications to talk much about marriage. BTW, he asked that the person(s) should ask their pastor.

Clearly, no serious christain will have more than one wife or one husband. The clear and perfect will of God is male and female, not male and male, or female and female, or male and females, or males and female, or males and females. Any of these categories that become born again ought to do proper restitution.
Also, clearly, they cannot or should not be workers in church.
Asides the many problems that follow polygamy that your pastor trifled with as merely explaining to many people, what we can agree on is that it has nothing to do with eternal destination. In other words, you're not going to hell for polygamy. But that doesn't justify it or say you should not make amends if in the wrong. Even OT kings and priests were not supposed to practice polygamy, not to mention NT where every believer is supposed to be a king and priest in a sense, asides being deacons and bishops.
i guess your pastor would have taught the Samaritan woman not to leave her 6th husband, but explain to people that it was done before she believed. Like i said earlier, just leave these marriage things to Bible and godly preachers without failed marriages. He can focus on other things.


As long as you have passed through a road before, you have every good reason to give advise based on your experience on that road.

You guys should stop thinking in a shallow manner.

And please go read my write up on this issue and be enlightened.

https://www.nairaland.com/4303658/opinion-dont-deceived-polygamy-not#64403042
Romance / Re: (OPINION) Don't be deceived, Polygamy is not a sin? by Toks2008(m): 1:03pm On Mar 10
This tgread came to mind after seeing this today on front page.

https://www.nairaland.com/8023645/chris-oyakhilome-dont-send-wives

Well i guess its up to lalasticlala or mynd44 to decide if this expose should make it to the front page considering the content regardless of when it was created.
Religion / Re: Chris Oyakhilome: Don't Send Any Of Your Wives Away If You Become Born Again by Toks2008(m): 12:52pm On Mar 10
MiddleDimension:
When asked by someone im.South Africa if he should send any of his wives away, because he is now born again, Oyakhilome said no, he should not do that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SAL-4G_cwY&t=3s

Finally we are hearing the truth from Bold pastors.

I wrote extensively on this polygamy issue but i dont know why the mods did not beam the thread.

Most of my threads are usually very very thought provoking and shouldn't be left unnoticed.

https://www.nairaland.com/4303658/dont-deceived-polygamy-not-sin

Maybe lalasticlala and mynd44 should beam it as a build up to this particular thread.

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Romance / Re: "Ladies, What is The Biggest Gift Or Financial Sacrifice You've Made For Love?" by Toks2008(m): 8:28pm On Mar 05
I guess it will be nice to see what ladies have done.

lalastiiclala, myn44 what do you think?

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Romance / Re: "Ladies, What is The Biggest Gift Or Financial Sacrifice You've Made For Love?" by Toks2008(m): 9:11pm On Mar 03
dkidd:

Money when she still dey collect times 10 from the poor guy till now

LOL!
Romance / Re: "Ladies, What is The Biggest Gift Or Financial Sacrifice You've Made For Love?" by Toks2008(m): 6:51pm On Mar 01
ItisWell22:
200k to add to his business, following the Covid lockdown.

Wawu!

Are you a Nigerian? Just curious

And did you loan it to him or give him outrightly?

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Romance / "Guys, What Is The Biggest Gift Or Financial Sacrifice You've Made For Love?" by Toks2008(m): 4:07pm On Mar 01
I find it interesting how some people judge a man's worthiness based on his financial status. But shouldn't love transcend material wealth?

So, gentlemen, I'm curious: What's the biggest gift or financial sacrifice you've made for love?

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