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Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by http(m): 8:07pm On Aug 15, 2012
Sometimes i wonder what is the motive of starting a Thread, is it to basterdize a particular individual or targeting a particular religion because of hatred.

Please look at the Thread Topic on the Front page: » I Am Not A Religious Bigot - Muslim Consular-General, New York «

Please look at the Thread Topic on the main page when you enter the Thread: (Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot)

Is there anywhere in the world that we have a country name Muslim? This is the way the moderators and the owner of this Forum drag traffic to this site because they know Nigerian hate themselves when the issues of religion and Ethnic arrise.

How can we have a Muslim consular general and on the main thread we have Nigeria's consular general.

Everyone has a member of other religion in his or her family or their ancestor was once in other religion you so much hate, and mind you these religions are not native to Nigeria, we were introduce to them....

If you think you are Jesus first born or Muhammed last born, continue your hatred, when the time comes you will know what you have bring opon your head...

Bunch of hypocrate thinking they are on God's side...

This tell you the reason behind the Thread, This goes to Seun and the Moderators, Nigeria is not for one person, we all own Nigeria.

Let stop this dangerous Trend of depicting other people as being evil, i see no reason why you can't use the word " Nigeria consular -general on the front page instead of the careful bigot word " Muslim" consular general...
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by amosy007: 8:07pm On Aug 15, 2012
author=BetaThings

We have become too sensitive to issues in this country


the fact that we have become to sensitive in this country when it comes to religions stuffs as result of boko haram insurgent is the more reason why public figures should be careful of their actions and ulterances




I would not expect Fashola to attend the service. He can enter the mosque. A christian governor can send a muslim for the prayer and then meet them in person at a gathering where he would not feel awkward.
i didnt quite get what u are talking abt here.. Are u saying he should attend or send a representative?




Just imagine how you would feel if you find yourself in a place of muslim prayer.
But you can meet the same people when they have finished their prayer and you would not be awkward

The day Wole Soyinka dies, if they are doing the funeral in shrine, I wonder if a Christian governor would attend it
wole shoyinka is just an individual... Just a condolence letter will do in such a situation .. Its not mandatory for everybody to attend... Even if they are not guna burry him in a shrine
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by Nobody: 8:13pm On Aug 15, 2012
BetaThings:

Hitler, as a leader of a Christian country, would not have killed 6million jews

Hitler wished Germans were Muslims. He was a great admirer of what the cult of Mohamed (Urine Be Upon Him) could get people up to.

Adolf Hitler –In his own words

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.”
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 8:13pm On Aug 15, 2012
amosy007:
so how many of them forcefully convert anybody to christianity the way prophet osama bin latrin (piss unto him)
prophet abu qada, usman dan fodio, alzawiyr, not forgetin prophet shekau and sokoto are forcing people into kilslam?

Opps i forgot prophet muhamed fought and won many wars to capture mecca (holy wars init?)

now am waiting 4 u to refer me back to d days of catholism. grin

You are rude and don't have any respect for people
No need for an answer to you
My religion forbids being rude to leaders of other religions. This is not an even contest
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by amosy007: 8:13pm On Aug 15, 2012
olawalebabs: Does giving sympathy not different from services. Lets be realistic here. Did GEJ attends Yaradua burial? Somehings dont add up here.
so all jonathan participation in yaraduas death and burrier is not enough abi?(declaring 1week mourning etc) If the man in quote did half of what jonathan did for yaradua we wont be here complaning(just a single condolense leta woulda clear the air)... Or may be u should to the homepage and read allegations against the man again
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by aryzgreat: 8:14pm On Aug 15, 2012
Sam Milla:

Anuofia, dont you know the meaning of
Church Services and
Church events?

Bazaar is an event.



I have had the pleasure of attending meetings, dedication, baptismal in churches


1mcecile! pls tell me if church event like bazaar, baptism, dedication are held in clubs or halls and not inside the church? are they not part of church service? when u escort ur neighbour to church for child dedication do they do different thing from the normal church service? confused m0r0n!
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by olawalebabs(m): 8:16pm On Aug 15, 2012
amosy007:
so all jonathan participation in yaraduas death and burrier is not enough abi?(declaring 1week mourning etc) If the man in quote did half of what jonathan did for yaradua we wont be here complaning(just a single condolense leta woulda clear the air)... Or may be u should to the homepage and read allegations against the man again
Answer my question and sop beaing around the bush.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by amosy007: 8:18pm On Aug 15, 2012
BetaThings:

You are rude and don't have any respect for people
No need for an answer to you
My religion forbids being rude to leaders of other religions. This is not an even contest

thats becoz u have no answer to that.. Me am not a bigot.. I hate any religion that support killing of my people .. Be it christianity or islam... And i hate superiority.. If thats why am rude (i prefer to stay that way)
thank u
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by amosy007: 8:19pm On Aug 15, 2012
olawalebabs: Answer my question and sop beaing around the bush.
so what answer do u want again?
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 8:24pm On Aug 15, 2012
jerseyboy:

Hitler wished Germans were Muslims. He was a great admirer of what the cult of Mohamed (Urine Be Upon Him) could get people up to.

Adolf Hitler –In his own words

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible
to us than Christianity
. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"


“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.”

You should recognise propaganda when you see it
Somebody who has killed millions of innocents is talking about restraint by Christianity and you are buying it!!!
So without Christianity, how many would he have killed?
He razed down whole cities (Coventry, Lidice etc) and he now speaks of constraint
If you understand anything of Islam, there is no way that being a muslim would have helped him
Islam forbids weapon of mass destruction to avoid killing chidren, women and the aged - Hitler gassed people
Islam asks us to cover our bodies - Hitler gassed people in the nude

Hitler exploited his soldiers' inadequate knowledge of Islam to goad them to kill more innocent people
If he had cited the examples of the Roman Empire that fed humans to lions, his soldiers would have been able to refute him
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by olawalebabs(m): 8:24pm On Aug 15, 2012
amosy007:
so what answer do u want again?
he same yardstick you use to judge the consular, use it for GEJ oo.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by juman(m): 8:25pm On Aug 15, 2012
adegeorge:
I don’t think Mr. Onyeani whom I had been treating as an elder brother and adviser would descend to the level of insinuating my being a Religious bigot.

This is the genesis of the "problem".

Mr. Habib Baba Habu treated Mr. Chika Onyeani as elder brother and adviser but Mr. Chika Onyeani did not treated him as his junior brother. The Consul General should be careful of what he says to those he takes as "brothers".

I was so surprise when I saw from google that the man Chika Onyeani is not a small boy.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 8:25pm On Aug 15, 2012
amosy007:
thats becoz u have no answer to that.. Me am not a bigot.. I hate any religion that support killing of my people .. Be it christianity or islam... And i hate superiority.. If thats why am rude (i prefer to stay that way)
thank u
behave like a decent person and you would get an answer
There is nothing you are throwing up that I cannot refute

Go and read Godfather - don't always underestimate your adversary
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by amosy007: 8:29pm On Aug 15, 2012
^
Like i care!
So u were decent when u were luring hitler, and rev king into Christianity abi?

Muslims and hypocrisy *eww smh*
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by amosy007: 8:30pm On Aug 15, 2012
olawalebabs: he same yardstick you use to judge the consular, use it for GEJ oo.
*yawns*
sum people are so hard to give OT
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by Nobody: 8:30pm On Aug 15, 2012
BetaThings:

If he had cited the examples of the Roman Empire that fed humans to lions, his soldiers would have been able to refute him

Romans who fed humans to Lions were not Christians. They actually fed Christians to Lions.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 8:31pm On Aug 15, 2012
aribisala0: I just wonder whether we would be having the same outrage if an Igbo Christian refused to attend a service for Amadioha!!! grin

Did GEJ attend the Mosque service for his boss (Yaradua)?

The key issue is whether he engaged with the bereaved and discharged his duties/functions to them. Some people choose Not to attend religious ceremonies of ANY kind. That is their right and CANNOT preclude them from public office.

He has presented his own side of the story and we have no choice but to believe him since it is the duty of the accuser to PROVE OTHERWISE.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 8:34pm On Aug 15, 2012
jerseyboy:

Romans who fed humans to Lions were not Christians. They actually fed Christians to Lions.
I am just saying that his soldiers knew the story of the Roman Empire. So he could not use that to psyche them into doing more cruel things
But to achieve his objective, he had to use the example of Islam which his soldiers were not familiar with
If he tried that today, people would quickly refute his claim
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by dnawah(m): 8:34pm On Aug 15, 2012
adegeorge:


http://elombah.com/index.php/articles-mainmenu/12242-religious-bigot-i-am-not-consul-general-of-nigeria-new-york
u like ur gari o!well nobody go go there,just want 2 come back lik that.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by Mekanze: 9:22pm On Aug 15, 2012
bigboy3: this guy is a clown....same way Facrook started with orisiri lies. What is the complexity about a church service or did anyone ask him to preach? Naija and drama....Funny thing, if na election period, the guy go enter church sharply.
true talk my broda, dis muslim people self, can't they see dat all d good things in dis world is 4rm Christian countries abi them blind?
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by phaya(f): 9:27pm On Aug 15, 2012
manny4life: HE can attend church service if it's for celebration such as weddings, birthdays, baptisms, etc BUT his legs and hands are tied that he cannot church service for mourning... FLIMSY EXCUSE. angry angry angry

Now the perfect excuse comes - "I wouldn’t know what to do during the service as a Muslim", like seriously, who asked him to do anything special? Did anyone ask him to preach ? undecided undecided undecided undecided



Exactly! All he had to do was just to show up. Has he gone to visit the bereaved families? Or his religion won't still let him enter a christian home?
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by aribisala0(m): 9:38pm On Aug 15, 2012
No he does not have to show up.Christians and Muslims get over yourselves. If he refuses to attend a similar ceremony at a shrine for any African deities you will all applaud.

he does not have to attend religious ceremonies

He does not need to send a representative
ahe does not need to offer an explanation

His role as Consul is quite clear and our constitution too is clear that The state shall not adopt any religion.What this implies is that Government officails cannot be OBLIGED to participate in Religious ceremonies
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by norrisman: 9:40pm On Aug 15, 2012
Why does the consular have to attend a church service for victims of a car crash? My wifes brother was shot dead in the same United States 2 years ago. We obviously didnt expect any government representatives at his interment and none turned up. When the young man (I think his handle was Bawolomo) on Nairaland was murdered last year, was there any government representative at his wake?

This stupid man accussing the consular is a fool. He probably only wanted a high ranking official from the embassy present to make their village association seem like one with friends and connects in high places. They obviously werent mourning at this event as we saw pictures posted on Nairaland of adults consuming generous portions of food right infront of the portraits of the deceased children. What a shame!

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Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by 2mch(m): 9:50pm On Aug 15, 2012
norrisman: Why does the consular have to attend a church service for victims of a car crash? My wifes brother was shot dead in the same United States 2 years ago. We obviously didnt expect any government representatives at his interment and none turned up. When the young man (I think his handle was Bawolomo) on Nairaland was murdered last year, was there any government representative at his wake?

This stupid man accussing the consular is a fool. He probably only wanted a high ranking official from the embassy present to make their village association seem like one with friends and connects in high places. They obviously werent mourning at this event as we saw pictures posted on Nairaland of adults eating generous portions of food right infront of the portraits of the deceased children. What a shame!

ROTFLMAO grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by Nobody: 10:04pm On Aug 15, 2012
jerseyboy:

Hitler wished Germans were Muslims. He was a great admirer of what the cult of Mohamed (Urine Be Upon Him) could get people up to.

Adolf Hitler –In his own words

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

“Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.”

My dear ignorant African friend,

What is this obsession of yours with Hitler? I do not subscribe to any organized religion, but I despise deception and hypocrisy with a passion. Thus, those who do not know me might say I "flip-flop" on issues. This is not the case, however. I just choose to be fair, so my views today might differ from my views tomorrow depending on the situation on the ground.

It was just a war. Hitler hated cowards most of all. The ones that used to hide in drain pipes, sewers and cesspools to find comfort. I must tell you that he held a great respect for many British and American troops when they showed courage and resourcefulness. Are we to now denigrate Americans and British because of one mad man's respect for valor?

All wars are bad. For instance the Palestinian Holocaust. Almost 15 hundred innocent civilians died under the illegal White Phosphorus missiles the Jews, backed by Christian Nations, used out of fear of confronting face to face with the brave Palestinians.

Your words sound very peculiar especially when someone of "Christian" faith writes them. "Christian faith", practiced in the Nigerian version which promotes profligacy, decadence, extravagance and the accumulation of all things wealth related; all contrary to the teachings of the Bible which they claim to follow. The Bible teaches simplicity and modesty, doesn't it? So why does Nigeria's allow for Preachers to live large flying Private Jets and Driving Bentleys--all paid for by the largely poor followers--- while people starve to death everyday before their eyes?

What you have just said is subject to debate and most Muslims would probably say it is untrue. Also, even if Hitler admired Islam, it makes no difference toward Islam since Hitler was not a Muslim.

What is not subject to debate, however, is that Hitler was a Roman Catholic and often stated that the Nazi goal was in God's will. Also, the Roman Catholic Church has often been responsible for plotting to kill the Jews. Hitler never put Islam above Christianity, nor is he known to have renounced Catholicism and converted to Islam.

Please my dear friend do not also forget that Judas betrayed Jesus Christ and your people worship him as their God.

I hope that you are feeling better now.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 10:20pm On Aug 15, 2012
Mekanze: true talk my broda, dis muslim people self, can't they see dat all d good things in dis world is 4rm Christian countries abi them blind?
true talk my broda, dis muslim black people self, can't they see dat all d good things in dis world is 4rm Christian countries the whiteman abi them blind?
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by norrisman: 10:20pm On Aug 15, 2012
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by Nobody: 10:24pm On Aug 15, 2012
norrisman:

Wow
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by BetaThings: 10:27pm On Aug 15, 2012
phaya:


Exactly! All he had to do was just to show up. Has he gone to visit the bereaved families? Or his religion won't still let him enter a christian home?
Are these guys the only Nigerians that have ever been bereaved
Were their death caused by govt inefficiency?
If some matter needed his attention in the office and this was delayed because he had gone for the funeral, the people not attended to would have brought the matter to Nairaland to castigate him for abandoning his official duties for private events
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by erniok(m): 10:28pm On Aug 15, 2012
kingoflag:

My dear ignorant African friend,

What is this obsession of yours with Hitler? I do not subscribe to any organized religion, but I despise deception and hypocrisy with a passion. Thus, those who do not know me might say I "flip-flop" on issues. This is not the case, however. I just choose to be fair, so my views today might differ from my views tomorrow depending on the situation on the ground.

It was just a war. Hitler hated cowards most of all. The ones that used to hide in drain pipes, sewers and cesspools to find comfort. I must tell you that he held a great respect for many British and American troops when they showed courage and resourcefulness. Are we to now denigrate Americans and British because of one mad man's respect for valor?

All wars are bad. For instance the Palestinian Holocaust. Almost 15 hundred innocent civilians died under the illegal White Phosphorus missiles the Jews, backed by Christian Nations, used out of fear of confronting face to face with the brave Palestinians.

Your words sound very peculiar especially when someone of "Christian" faith writes them. "Christian faith", practiced in the Nigerian version which promotes profligacy, decadence, extravagance and the accumulation of all things wealth related; all contrary to the teachings of the Bible which they claim to follow. The Bible teaches simplicity and modesty, doesn't it? So why does Nigeria's allow for Preachers to live large flying Private Jets and Driving Bentleys--all paid for by the largely poor followers--- while people starve to death everyday before their eyes?

What you have just said is subject to debate and most Muslims would probably say it is untrue. Also, even if Hitler admired Islam, it makes no difference toward Islam since Hitler was not a Muslim.

What is not subject to debate, however, is that Hitler was a Roman Catholic and often stated that the Nazi goal was in God's will. Also, the Roman Catholic Church has often been responsible for plotting to kill the Jews. Hitler never put Islam above Christianity, nor is he known to have renounced Catholicism and converted to Islam.

Please my dear friend do not also forget that Judas betrayed Jesus Christ and your people worship him as their God.

I hope that you are feeling better now.
Before you respond to his post, you should know he didn't start the hitler talk.
Did the consular send a messenger to let the bereaved know that they are in receipt of their letter to the embassy or did he send a delegate to represent the embassy because these are two entirely different things.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by Nobody: 10:34pm On Aug 15, 2012
erniok:
Before you respond to his post, you should know he didn't start the hitler talk.
Did the consular send a messenger to let the bereaved know that they are in receipt of their letter to the embassy or did he send a delegate to represent the embassy because these are two entirely different things.

And am I supposed to give 2 fu*ks on who started the "Hitler" talk?! The bottom-line is I was referring to his post!

As for your next question, don't be lazy, read my old posts. Both parties agreed that a representative from the Consulate was sent. That, in my Opinion, is all that is needed. It is not until a high powered delegation is sent that the criteria for condolence should then be said to have been met. It was a private event in which the Govt didn't even need have played a part (beyond sending a letter commiserating with the bereaved) but they chose to.

In sensitive issues like this, obvious displays of hypocrisy and bigotry usually alienates the very people whom we all are supposed to be sympathizing with. I hope you get my drift.
Re: Nigeria's Consular-General, New York, I Am Not A Religious Bigot by erniok(m): 10:45pm On Aug 15, 2012
You amuse me. So your idea of a representative is someone who didn't have the courtesy of coming in but stands at the door to deliver a message.

No one is insisting that a high powered delegate be sent but what is worth doing is worth doing well.

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