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Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Goshen360(m): 8:32am On Nov 07, 2012
Sometimes last month before the United States 2012 election, I woke up and tunned in to watch one of the Christian program/tv. I found Pat Robertson on one of Benny Hinn show at about the end of the program and one thing I heard him (Pat Robertson) talked about is that God told him Mitt Romney will win the U.S 2012 Presidential election. First, I was like, what the heck is this man saying?

Quickly as I listen to him, I ran some scriptural check on his prophesy to see if it aligns with the word of God and I can't but conclude then he is false prophet.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. Romans 13:1


Today, as Barack Obama is re-elected as the U.S President. How do we interpret what a prophet said "God told him Mitt Romney will win"? Many times I wonder what the body of Christ had turned into.....smh shocked shocked shocked I tried to get the video online but can't get the exact program but got similar video where the Pat Robertson said the same thing he said on Benny Hinn programme.

From the 9:44 - 20:00 minute of the video, Pat Robertson said, "God told him..."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOFhrb4xMfQ?version=3&hl=en

~ Thread modified with the video evidence below ~

After giving the first two videos, so many people called me all kinds of names on this forum. As God will justify me, I have nothing to gain calling another man a false prophet. Here is the video evidence where Pat Robertson made the statement: http://www.itbn.org/index/detail/lib/Networks/sublib/TBN/ec/d2OTloNjo9tRaXTztpEbywtMA40U4Eag

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 8:48am On Nov 07, 2012
False Prophets with their lies and false visions....signs of the end *Smh*
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 8:49am On Nov 07, 2012
We should always avoid extreme hard words in our posts. The fact that his prediction didn't come to past doesn't make him a false prophet. False prophets has to do with doctrines as related to christ. People can miss it. In prophecy but they are still good ministers of God who just missed it. Prophets do miss it sometime in the bible . That's why the bible says else's should judge.

1 Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.


Goshen welcome back

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 8:51am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje: We should always avoid extreme hard words in our posts. The fact that his prediction didn't come to past doesn't make him a false prophet. False prophets has to do with doctrines as related to christ. People can miss it. In prophecy but they are still good ministers of God who just missed it. Prophets do miss it sometime in the bible . That's why the bible says else's should judge.

1 Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.


Goshen welcome back

Are you saying the Holy Spirit lied to him Smh* Jo...take am easy oh!

Numbers 23:19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 8:52am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje: We should always avoid extreme hard words in our posts. The fact that his prediction didn't come to past doesn't make him a false prophet. False prophets has to do with doctrines as related to christ. People can miss it. In prophecy but they are still good ministers of God who just missed it. Prophets do miss it sometime in the bible . That's why the bible says else's should judge.

1 Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.


Goshen welcome back
What won't you say to protect crooks and dishonest elements like you? wink
Welcome back Goshen..

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Goshen360(m): 8:56am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje: We should always avoid extreme hard words in our posts. The fact that his prediction didn't come to past doesn't make him a false prophet. False prophets has to do with doctrines as related to christ. People can miss it. In prophecy but they are still good ministers of God who just missed it. Prophets do miss it sometime in the bible . That's why the bible says else's should judge.

1 Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.


Goshen welcome back

Bro Joagbaje,

My very point of emphasis is not whether he missed it or not, it is the fact that he said "God told him". When anyone come out to tell the whole world that "God told him" is the fact that such words carry weight. He wasn't guessing when he said those word bro.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Goshen360(m): 8:58am On Nov 07, 2012
musKeeto:
What won't you say to protect crooks and dishonest elements like you? wink
Welcome back Goshen..

Thank you my dear brother.....wasn't really off but read all threads offline, chose to be quiet most time bro. cool
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Goshen360(m): 9:01am On Nov 07, 2012
Well, just finished watching the whole election show, Obama speech right now. It's 3.01 am here. I'm going to bed right now. Will be right back.
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by PastorKun(m): 9:05am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje: We should always avoid extreme hard words in our posts. The fact that his prediction didn't come to past doesn't make him a false prophet. False prophets has to do with doctrines as related to christ. People can miss it. In prophecy but they are still good ministers of God who just missed it. Prophets do miss it sometime in the bible . That's why the bible says else's should judge.

1 Corinthians 14:29
Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.


Goshen welcome back

Why do you always make it your business to defend evrything wrong with the 'church' today. Does your own bible not tell you to rebuke false teachers or is it becos they are your partners in crime and you feel a need to defend your racket?

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by vislabraye(m): 9:13am On Nov 07, 2012
He was too hasty to talk. People should be very careful about prophesies. He shouldn't have said God said.
I remember a certain prophet who visited a pregnant woman and said, "you will give birth to a boy and you will call him Victor. "
Lo and behold she gave birth to a girl and they called her Victoria.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 9:18am On Nov 07, 2012
Buzugee ur brah is back.
Welcome Gosh.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 9:19am On Nov 07, 2012
vislabraye: He was too hasty to talk. People should be very careful about prophesies. He shouldn't have said God said.
I remember a certain prophet who visited a pregnant woman and said, "you will give birth to a boy and you will call him Victor. "
Lo and behold she gave birth to a girl and they called her Victoria.
Lol.. thank God say na English name.. imagine if dem say call am Akpos...
na Akposia d girl for answer... hehehe.. grin

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 9:25am On Nov 07, 2012
Goshen360:

Bro Joagbaje,

My very point of emphasis is not whether he missed it or not, it is the fact that he said "God told him". .

It doesn't make him a false prophet still. He made a BIG blunder . He is still a man of God. He is a christian ,he is anointed ,but he made a big

When anyone come out to tell the whole world that "God told him" is the fact that such words carry weight. He wasn't guessing when he said those word bro

How is prophecy done ? Is it not "thus sayeth the lord" yet paul said there can be a mistake in it. Let's look at that portion again. Obviously some good prophets have given some wrong prophecy , so someome else had to judge the prophecy . It doesnt make them false proohet . False prophet turns people heart from God.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 9:27am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:

It doesn't make him a false prophet still. He made a BIG blunder . He is still a man of God. He is a christian ,he is anointed ,but he made a big blunder.
He didn't tell a lie, he made a blunder.. lwkm4h..

JoLIEbaje...

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 9:30am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:

It doesn't make him a false prophet still. He made a BIG blunder . He is still a man of God. He is a christian ,he is anointed ,but he made a big blunder.
Can God lie?

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 9:37am On Nov 07, 2012
How can you tell they are false prophets.. if you give me an insight into the future, you also give me a clear opportunity to change the outcome of things I am not comfortable with. the biatch loser rommey did not take advantage of the prophecy, Obama did and rigged like a muphucka grin grin grin

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by MrAnony1(m): 9:39am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:
It doesn't make him a false prophet still. He made a BIG blunder . He is still a man of God. He is a christian ,he is anointed ,but he made a big blunder.

20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Call a spade a spade. Pat and Benny are false prophets.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by PastorKun(m): 9:47am On Nov 07, 2012
Reyginus: Can God lie?

Joagbaje's god lies on a regular basis.
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 9:49am On Nov 07, 2012
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vislabraye: He was too hasty to talk. People should be very careful about prophesies. He shouldn't have said God said.

That's my point .
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 10:06am On Nov 07, 2012
Na campaign strategy jareh, the man na Romney surporter. He just said that to get people to vote for mitt.Pastors of now adays, I no just understand.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 10:07am On Nov 07, 2012
Mr_Anony:

20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

Has Benny died?

21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Obviously the lord didnt speak THAT PARTICULAR PROPHECY . But that didn't make him false prophet . There's a difference between someone who is a man of God but gave wrong prophecy. It is the prophecy that should be condemned not the man.

Call a spade a spade. Pat and Benny are false prophets.

You are wrong. What about the prophecies he had given which came to pass. Does one switch between been good prophet and being false ? .

You judge the prophecy not the man .

Samuel was very sure he was hearing from God , and was about to anoint a wrong man as king. But God had to stop him.

1 Samuel 16:7
When they had come, he looked on Eliab [the eldest son] and said, Surely the Lord’s anointed is before Him.
7 But the Lord said to Samuel, Look not on his appearance or at the height of his stature, for I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees; for man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.


If samuel had gone ahead to anoint elihab in error. Would that make samuel a false prophet ? No.

There are several reason someone would have given a wrong prophecy. I will expound on this if I have the time. The question we should ask first is . "HOW DOES PROPHECY COME" people recieved prophecies different ways, some dream, angel,audible voice ,open vision,close vision, inner witness etc. who've you dreamt and it came to pass before ? Yes, have you dream it didn't come to ass ,yes. Are you a good dreamer or bad dreamer? Ask yourself.

I am a lirtle busy ,I will be back


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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by MrAnony1(m): 10:09am On Nov 07, 2012
Goshen360: Sometimes last month before the United States 2012 election, I woke up and tunned in to watch one of the Christian program/tv. I found Pat Robertson on one of Benny Hinn show at about the end of the program and one thing I heard him (Pat Robertson) talked about is that God told him Mitt Romney will win the U.S 2012 Presidential election.
Mr_Anony:

20But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
21And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
22When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Call a spade a spade. Pat and Benny are false prophets.

Erhmm...wait a minute, I think I have spoken a little too hastily. I have just watched the videos you posted and I did not hear any one of them say that God told them that Mitt Romney will win the elections.

@Goshen could you please post a video link and specify the time this prophecy was said in the video. I don't want to call someone a false prophet without proof.
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 10:09am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje: [/b][b]

That's my point .
Dude you've got no point.
If you say so, you ll also have to agree that God was too hasty in revealing it to him.
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by MrAnony1(m): 10:11am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:

Has Benny died? really?



Obviously the lord didnt speak THAT PARTICULAR PROPHECY . But that didn't make him false prophet . There's a difference between someone who is a man of God but gave wrong prophecy. It is the prophecy that should be condemned not the man.the only time God gave people wrong prophecies in the bible was when he sent a lying spirit to false prophets. Are you saying Benny Hinn has a lying spirit?



You are wrong. What about the prophecies he had given which came to pass. Does one switch between been good prophet and being false ? Yes one can switch from true to false prophet. prophecy is not a gamble .

You judge the prophecy not the man . of course except that God kills false prophets....interesting how you would rather God's Word be judged than the man be judged. Be very careful my friend

Samuel was very sure he was hearing from God , and was about to anoint a wrong man as king. But God had to stop him. If samuel had gone ahead to anoint elihab in error. Would that make samuel a false prophet ? No. yes it would make Samuel a false prophet and he would have attracted God's wrath

There are several reason someone would have given a wrong prophecy. I will expound on this if I have the time. The question we should ask first is . "HOW DOES OROPHECY COME" people recieved prophecies different ways, some dream, angel,audible voice ,open vision,close vision, inner witness etc. who've you dreamt and it came to pass before ? Yes, have you dream it didn't come to ass ,yes. Are you a good dreamer or bad dreamer? Ask yourself. how you got the prophecy is irrelevant, it is either it is of God or it is not

I am a lirtle busy ,I will be back so am I


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This is just plain dishonest of you my friend (my responses in red). For now I will hold off on calling them false prophets for lack of proof but if what Goshen says turns out to be true, then they are false prophets no doubt. Don't twist scripture to protect them.

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 10:19am On Nov 07, 2012
Reyginus: Dude you've got no point.
If you say so, you ll also have to agree that God was too hasty in revealing it to him.

It's not about God revealing, it's about a man picking wrong signal. There was a time a lying spirt came upon good prophet , a they prophesied wrongly. God allowed it to destroy ahab . But they were prophets of God.
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by MrAnony1(m): 10:23am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:

It's not about God revealing, it's about a man picking wrong signal. There was a time a lying spirt came upon good prophet , a they prophesied wrongly. God allowed it to destroy ahab . But they were prophets of God.
So Benny probably has a lying spirit then?

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 10:35am On Nov 07, 2012
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 10:37am On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:

It's not about God revealing, it's about a man picking wrong signal. There was a time a lying spirt came upon good prophet , a they prophesied wrongly. God allowed it to destroy ahab . But they were prophets of God.
Is it possible for God to operate through a lying spirit or vice versa?
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 1:17pm On Nov 07, 2012
Mr_Anony:
This is just plain dishonest of you my friend (my responses in red). For now I will hold off on calling them false prophets for lack of proof but if what Goshen says turns out to be true, then they are false prophets no doubt. Don't twist scripture to protect them.

Im only sharing bible truth with you . Calling them false prophets from now till tomorrow does it change Gods call upon them. You only run the error of calling Gods servants a name God didn't call them.
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Joagbaje(m): 1:20pm On Nov 07, 2012
Reyginus: Is it possible for God to operate through a lying spirit or vice versa?

It's not about God

It's either the person didn't hear from God and he thought he did. And there are times oneself hear from God but the prophecy fail when certain instructions were not followed through .. There are prophets in the bible who's prophecies didn't come to pass.

There's much about prophetic ministry we don't know. We should rather ask questions than running the tendency of comitinng sin of blasphemy

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Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 07, 2012
False Prophet is the POPE !
Re: Benny Hinn & Pat Robertson, The False Prophets Of The U.S 2012 Election by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 07, 2012
Joagbaje:

It's not about God

It's either the person didn't hear from God and he thought he did. And there are times oneself hear from God but the prophecy fail when certain instructions were not followed through .. There are prophets in the bible who's prophecies didn't come to pass.

There's much about prophetic ministry we don't know. We should rather ask questions than running the tendency of comitinng sin of blasphemy
How isnt it about God when He is involved.
I am not arguing if he is a true or false prophet.
All I am after is, if God can lie. If you can answer in the affirmative, then I believe him. You know the consequencies that will follow.

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