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Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:17pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: Gaddem! That was the point of my argument. Advocacy of something does not equal evangelism. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:19pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
JeSoul: @Enigma, I rescind my last comment to you on that thread...there are not many at all. I tried and failed while attempting to count... While I dont agree with few things in this post, hateful christians like Goshen and Enigma should learn from this |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Goshen360(m): 4:21pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Again, your intellectual reasoning is failing you and falling flat when properly microscoped. How does fact(s) = truth and where in the verse you quoted does it says theists AUTOMATICALLY hate and despise others who reject their beliefs E be like say I get your time today, get ready to be debunked once again..... |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by plaetton: 4:22pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Stalwert: Ofcourse it would seem nonsense to you. Go to Nigeria and see the real meaning of irrationality. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Stalwert: 4:22pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
plaetton: So are here because of your neighbor's singing? Don't we all have recourse to the law which protects us from the excesses of anybody? Do you know what if an adult who believes in the tooth fairy claims the tooth fairy created the world, I will laugh and take a walk yet you atheists here would stand here and make argument for days with no end in sight and even go as far as writing best selling books on why the tooth fairy does not exist, that is what proves your extreme irrationality, while a theist will use his time pursuing time worthy activities you atheists will simply invest your time refuting fairy tales! And as enigma so eloquently put "the excuse they give for their obnoxiousness is simply nonsense". 2 Likes |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Goshen360(m): 4:24pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Logicboy03: What! This thread haven't gone too far and we're beginning to know those who are hateful....Not so? |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: Another case of you stretching the argument. Theist > Christian. Anyhoo, anybody that believes that psalm 14;1 is the innerant word of God is automatically a hater of atheists because that verse clearly says that atheists are evil fools |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Stalwert: 4:26pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
plaetton: I live in Nigeria, I am a muslim and I live near two churches, and they do Nite vigils and Sunday service, but do you know what, I do what our religious leaders have ask of most of us Nigerian TOLERANCE! 2 Likes |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:27pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
[size=14pt]Why is no christian addressing this post on this thread (apart from Jesoul)? [/size] Logicboy03: The funniest thing in this thread is that the religious people here are showing how immoral or irrationally ignorant they are. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Stalwert: 4:28pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: Truly you are yet to hear worst accusations from him, it is his style of pleading for leniency 1 Like |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: Of course, Jesoul has shamed you hateful lot |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:32pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Logicboy03: that's what you get for your joblessness , the idle mind is the ....................... |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Goshen360(m): 4:32pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Logicboy03: Okay narrowed down a little bit now. The verse says atheists are fool right. How and where does that verse now says theists AUTOMATICALLY hate atheists because of them saying "there is no God". That is what I want you to define. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
frosbel: Trololo |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: let's not mince words, an atheist is a FOOL !! God says so and I agree . |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by plaetton: 4:34pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Stalwert: C'mon guy. Your argument is lopsided. Pastors and TV evangelist go on air every single minute, even as we chat, to castigate all and everyone who does not share their beliefs. There are crusades in every nook and cranny demonizing people for not believing. How many religious sects and cults do you have in the world, all repudiating the beliefs of others? But when one lonely atheist dares to stand up and write a book, or go in an online forum to repudiate the oppressive and exploitative religious beliefs and the religious fraudsters who benefit from such, then you all begin to cry foul. Shouts of evangelical atheism rent the air. Why the insecurity? If a pastor or Tv evangelist can stand up in a podium, face millions of viewers, then make false, ridiculous, and sometimes dangerous claims,why can't he be challanged? Why does religion feel that it should be impervious to scrutiny and accountability? |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Kay17: 4:35pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Enigma: ^^^ Most things about evangelical atheism are senseless. Even fundamentally, atheism let alone evangelical atheism is illogical and irrational. All the books that their bishops and evangelists are writing - when examined intellectually, logically and philosophically - simply amount to building castles in the air. As a professor in one of the great universities said: you can pass our exams by writing bulls.hit ----- as long as you write the bulls.hit well. I don't understand why atheists don't deserve the use of public space? Religious leaders get to enjoy free speech, but it irritating for atheist or antitheist to speak?! As to the illogical nature of atheism, its dependent on the purported being God. His existence appeals only to Faith. Faith itself is a trust authority, not really sound in epistemological terms. It is not illogical to pronouce God absent on the sole basis of Reason and empiricism. 3 Likes |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Goshen360: You believe that I am evil just because a book tells you so and not because of my behaviour? No hatred there. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
frosbel: Goshen, is this the christian love? |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Kay17: 4:37pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
frosbel: Forsbel, that's false. God didn't say atheists are fools, rather the Bible said that God said atheists are fools. That's the word from the Bible. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Goshen360(m): 4:38pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
frosbel: Yes and I agree also but Logicboy and plaetton say because of that, we theists AUTOMATICALLY hate atheists and Logicboy quoted bible verse and I'm trynna let him define how that verse though says atheists are fool becomes AUTOMATIC verse for theists being hateful. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by plaetton: 4:39pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Kay 17: What a breath of fresh air. The triumph of reason! |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Enigma(m): 4:41pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Stalwert: it is all rubbish! If the problem is with the nuisance factor, we will see lots of threads complaining or appealing that Christians etc should not constitute themselves into a nuisance. I am a Christian who spends a lot of time in Nigeria and I find that A LOT of 'churches' in Nigeria are unquestionably nuisances with their loudspeakers that are being used to disturb others (Christians, including myself, and non-Christians alike) unnecessarily. HOWEVER that is not because of Christianity at all or even because of the nuisance people's own Christianity at all; it is a function of a society where we have lost a proper sense of real values and have a wrong understanding of what is right. Let me demonstrate: -- the chap who lives in a face me I face you or even a block of flats will turn up the volume of his Michael Jackson or Kollington Ayinla, so that his neighbours can hear and so that they will take -- the Okada chap will put a horn on his bike which is the same as that on a 911 bus making a blaring noise; hence, I like that old saying: since Rasaki buy Kawasaki, we no hear word again. So the excuse that it is in your face and that is why they come to forums to behave like jerks ----- just does not wash. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Kay17: 4:42pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Logicboy03: The funniest thing in this thread is that the religious people here are showing how immoral or irrationally ignorant they are. These are valid accusations to how religions like christianity and Islam invade privacy of others, they voluntarily drag criticism towards their religions. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Kay17: 4:44pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Enigma: It is a matter of conscience not individual Christianity (if any sense can be made out of that). Christians wear their battered conscience like a badge |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Stalwert: 4:45pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
plaetton: @stalwert Lies meant to befuddle to the weak minded, in the SW there are a lot of multi religious families and this also holds true for much of the North Central, and u probably have not heard of Stalin, atheists can be very despicable when in power! 2 Likes |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Kay 17: He did, David spoke under inspiration . The evidence for GOD is overwhelming, only a FOOL will think otherwise. You cannot wish GOD away try as you may, one day these confused atheists will stand before GOD in awe and trembling , alas it may be too late for them to recover from their stark folly ! Even the devils who are superior in wisdom believe in GOD and tremble. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder - James 2:19 It borders on arrogance, ingratitude, moral ineptitude and insanity to pretend that GOD is 'dead'. Talk is cheap , especially when the one to whom the talk is aimed at does not respond or simply ignores the small minds. 2 Likes |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:48pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
frosbel: Goshen360: Lol....these two people believe that they love atheists not hate them? |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Enigma(m): 4:49pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Kay 17: 1. Nobody says atheists should not use 'public space' to speak. However, using public space to speak is not the same as using public space to behave like jerks. 2. Why do atheists not buy TV and radio slots to preach their atheism message and evangelise for their religion? 3. On this forum, no one has prevented atheists from evangelising; look the 'religious people' (actually including both Christians and Moslems) have been quite tolerant of the evangelical atheists and their nonsense and obnoxiousness. We know that if the atheists had control they will NOT be as tolerant as the 'religious people' have been. Heck, the 'religious people' were even voting for one of you atheists in that recent voting exercise! If that is the intolerance of 'religious people', let us compare it to the intolerance of the evangelical atheists and see which is worse! 4. The illogicality of atheism is not dependent on any particular 'God'; atheism simply does not stack up in the face of scientific and philosophical knowledge TODAY or at anytime. 2 Likes |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Enigma: Atheists are behaving like Jerks? You and your christian bros call all atheists "evil fools" on this thread and you are claiming the victim? |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
Enigma: 100 likes If these people are the role models of atheism they are doomed from the start , for their moral fabric is already in tatters. Very poorly behaved sociopaths. |
Re: Irrationality Of Atheism by Kay17: 4:54pm On Jan 15, 2013 |
frosbel: Relax frosbel, let's take it gradually First, God didn't write the Bible or that particular biblical provision, David probably did. Second its not God's statement as a consequence of the above. It is David's Third it is David's IDEA of God's wishes and preference and his despise of atheists. Fourth it is of your own belief that David was inspired by God. So 4 separate steps and implications. |
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