miredia: My friend, I resolutely followed your post and the subsequent posts herein. It is unequivocally clear that you had shut your mind to oppositional views prior to inquiring for a public opinion about this subject. Your expectations were fixated and void of
objectivity. Buhari to you, is a sour choice regardless of your mindset being furnished with a contrary view that nullifies the unsubstantiated negating perception accrued to buhari. Leaving nothing merely implied, the supposed fresh minds you subtle suggested are a handful of corrupt characters. Except offcourse a few upright consciences with a radical vision like Fashola and Adams. In this pressing circumstance, nigerians cannot afford to trade necessitated reality with sentiments, sham, tribalism and religious appeal. An executive dispensation that holds the capacity to crush corruption and revamp development can only be presided over by the duo of Buhari/Fashola as both are the only proven characters on the slate. @pointb your exhibition of hatred towards Fash and Buhari is somewhat bogus and resonates from an inherent mindset of tribalism. Snap out of it sir.

Deep Sight:

Mind you, I personally do not subscribe to a Buhari candidacy - but the thread is not about my personal subscription. The thread is about realistic options for the opposition and in that regard, Buhari may be a liability in terms of securing southern votes.

I concede though, that he will be a good candidate to sweep northern votes. I also concede that he will be good for anti-corruption.

naijababe:
Any ticket with Fashola on it will make other regions fret! It wasn't that long ago that Obasanjo ruled, I am certain other regions will wonder why the SW are anxious to get power back so soon and let's not forget the Tinubu baggage.

Deep Sight:

Mind you, I personally do not subscribe to a Buhari candidacy - but the thread is not about my personal subscription. The thread is about realistic options for the opposition and in that regard, Buhari may be a liability in terms of securing southern votes.

I concede though, that he will be a good candidate to sweep northern votes. I also concede that he will be good for anti-corruption.

Demdem:

And why will they fret? We are looking at a VP slot here not the presidency itself. If u are indirectly talking about the SE, for now forget the presidency. They have placed their destiny in the hands of Ebele Azikwe Jonathan. They also could look for another VP slot.

naijababe: ^ Being an anti-corruption czar with a gun is completely different doing the same task under a democratic dispensation. I

Demdem:

And why will they fret? We are looking at a VP slot here not the presidency itself. If u are indirectly talking about the SE, for now forget the presidency. They have placed their destiny in the hands of Ebele Azikwe Jonathan. They also could look for another VP slot.

Demdem:

of cos i know this but does it mean one that succeeded in a military dispensation cant succeed in a democratic setting? Of cos not. Besides, the mere fact that he succeded then when his other contemporaries failed suggests to me the kind of man we are talking about here.

naijababe:

Herein lies the problem, for non-believers like me, what can he do to convince otherwise? Going by what you see on this thread, there are many just like out there.

naijababe:


Even VP for a Yoruba man right is overly ambitious, it's still too close to the seat of power. Besides, you have to admit that a vast majority of SW tolerate Tinubu because of Fashola and not the other way round. Way I see it, in Tinubu is dead weight for Fashola in national politics, I don't know how Fash can be rid of him.

Deep Sight:


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P: El-Rufai or Nuhu Ribadu - VP: Peter Obi I'd rather have Ngige in there, Obi is a sectional politician, although he might capture SE for the ticket

P: El Rufal or Nuhu Ribadi - VP: Fashola Outside of the SW, I am not sure this ticket will work. We are a sentimental lot, Tinubu is an albatross for him.

P: Bukola Saraki - VP: Peter Obi -Dead on arrival, the core north will not vote for Bukola, he's not northern enough

P: Sule Lamido - VP: Fashola - Possible stalement here, getting the votes of SS/SE will be herculean, besides wasn't Lamido's son caught laundering money a while back?

P: Mohammed Buba Marwa - VP: Fashola Why are you joking with us Deep sight? Might as well hand over the keys of Aso Rock to IBB

What do you make of the above suggestions?

Demdem:

have u forgotten so soon that since 2010 when retardeen became President till date, this same Yoruba man is/will not be close to the seat of power however all other regions are (SE inclusive). Not that Yorubas are complaining, afterall with Yoruba man close there in time past nothing significant was acheived.
VP for Yoruba man in 2015 isnt out of place. if it was the presido, then maybe u may have a point.

Now get this straight. [size=16pt]Without Tinubu, there is no fashola. Even fashola himself knows this. Either in the past, present and future. Asiwaju is no dead weight but fashola's backbone. Chew that.[/size]

Deep Sight:

P: El-Rufai or Nuhu Ribadu - VP: Peter Obi

Good canditates IMO however i dont see them capturing enough votes to defeat the killer party all over the federation. Also considering the fact that OBi is APGA and it has been well stated that APGA is much more alligned to the killer party, this isnt realistic enough.

P: El Rufal or Nuhu Ribadi - VP: Fashola

Good canditates IMO however i dont see them capturing enough votes to defeat the killer party all over the federation.

P: Bukola Saraki - VP: Peter Obi


This doesnt differ from retardeen/sambo ticket now

P: Sule Lamido - VP: Fashola

I have it on good authority that Lamido is pretty doing well has governor. He seems to be one of the few killer governors doing good however i dont see how realistic this ticket can be. Lamido's closeness to OBJ also suggest to me that he simply cant leave the killer party for now. This ticket isnt realistic.

P: Mohammed Buba Marwa - VP: Fashola

marwa, hmmmn tough one here. keep my fingers crossed. i honestly dont know how acceptable he is even to his north constituency however i can bet my prick that Buhari will gather more votes than him even in the north


What do you make of the above suggestions?

Good suggestions no doubt however, the million dollar question is how many votes can they gather that can defeat the killer party.

naijababe:

You know that and even I will concede that much but not the case outside SW. BTW, I was rooting for Ribadu all the way, the thought of voting GEJ never even crossed my mind.

Deep Sight:
@ Naijababe, I hear you, but please remember the key word is "realistic" for the opposition to have cross-country appeal.

Left to me, those would not be my suggestions. If zoning was not an issue in Nigeria I would immediately pick something like Fashola-Pat Utomi

Deep Sight:
@ Naijababe, I hear you, but please remember the key word is "realistic" for the opposition to have cross-country appeal.

Left to me, those would not be my suggestions. If zoning was not an issue in Nigeria I would immediately pick something like Fashola-Pat Utomi

Akpan107: My dear, i totally disagree with you! Buhari can never win the North completely, as voting for a President has turned into religious divide... Now, 40-45% of people in the North are Christians who would never trust the Buhari presidency...
Here is the list of places Buhari would never win in the North:
Taraba State
Southern Kaduna
Plateau State
Benue State
Kogi State
Kwara State
Adamawa State
while Goodluck will sweep the above States, South-West, South-East and South-South. 2015 no Vecancy in Aso-Rock.

okpara ugo:

It's so that they can satisfy their desires of throwing a Fashola under him. One even went ahead to advice Buhari to serve one tenure and then hand over to Fashola. The movie sweet sha.

Aside Buhari, the only Nigerian that can win Jonathan/PDP in 2015 is Oshiomhole irrespective of where his deputy comes from. Oshiomhole has nationwide acceptance. If Buhari failed 3ce, i dont doubt a 4th.

Wadeoye: Buhari/Oshiomole. I dont see making an igbo man vp adding any value to the dream of evolving an alternative platform, otherwise, someone like ngige would have been a good vp candidate.

Wadeoye:

Is southern Kaduna now a state? PDP/GEJ sweeping south west in 2015? I laugh in Yoruba... I can convincingly tell you that apart from Plateau and Benue who will still vote along religious line, GEJ will lose in all other states in middle belt. 2015 will be different and too bad if you dont know that. I am south west and you are not - I am in a better position to advice you as to how south west will vote. GEJ will struggle to get 25% in some states here - write it down.

Wadeoye:

Is southern Kaduna now a state? PDP/GEJ sweeping south west in 2015? I laugh in Yoruba... I can convincingly tell you that apart from Plateau and Benue who will still vote along religious line, GEJ will lose in all other states in middle belt. 2015 will be different and too bad if you dont know that. I am south west and you are not - I am in a better position to advice you as to how south west will vote. GEJ will struggle to get 25% in some states here - write it down.

take dat: Instead of the Fashola-Utomi ticket, I guess I'll rather prefer a Ribadu-Utomi one. If Buhari concedes to Ribadu, he will most likely garner a lot of votes in the North, while Utomi will appeal to the quasi-intellectuals and the neutrals, while the ACN governors work for them in the SW

bjdon:
Very true and well spoken. I really can't understand why the only option being spoken off is a man who will be 74 by 2015 and had lost 3 elections. There must be other candidates from across the Nation who can step forward.

bjdon: Buhari has run for president 3 times and each time his performance in the South was dreadful. I don't see why it would be any different this time. The ACN is actually not as strong anymore as the recent Ondo election showed. People in the SW are now seeing that the ACN are not much different from the PDP with the exception of Fashola and Osho baba. But even if Buhari/Tinubu were to sweep the SW I still don't think it will be enough. As in the last election, the PDP's ground machine in the North East and North west will ensure that Goodluck is at least competitive in the North, while he will win the North Central, SE, and SS.

Akpan107: My dear, i totally disagree with you! Buhari can never win the North completely, as voting for a President has turned into religious divide... Now, 40-45% of people in the North are Christians who would never trust the Buhari presidency...
Here is the list of places Buhari would never win in the North:
Taraba State
Southern Kaduna
Plateau State
Benue State
Kogi State
Kwara State
Adamawa State
while Goodluck will sweep the above States, South-West, South-East and South-South. 2015 no Vecancy in Aso-Rock.

take dat: Instead of the Fashola-Utomi ticket, I guess I'll rather prefer a Ribadu-Utomi one. If Buhari concedes to Ribadu, he will most likely garner a lot of votes in the North, while Utomi will appeal to the quasi-intellectuals and the neutrals, and the ACN governors working for them in the SW

Eziachi:
And who did the South West gave their vote in 2011?

Eziachi:
Why would Ngige or Igbo be subject to just a VP option under any platform?