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Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 3:39pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Nike93: Whats the purpose of this thread? Op if u don't like the arrangement of ur name,go to the nearest npc office and change it , when u have kids too name them as you please but leave others alone u cn't force ur belief ön anybody. Shikena sometimes i cry at the intellectual decadency of most muslims. your brain is not just there for composing sms or pings,use the logical part of your brain for critical thinking. or better still rent it to the nearest clinic,you might hit a jackpot |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by dejavume: 3:41pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
well said,the article or wateva is well said. it happens in the north and those claiming to-be among d yorubas |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by tpia5: 3:41pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
bukatyne: The OP never said Arabic names are bad; He said they should be middle names and not first names. Tribe is very important to the arab identity, i doubt arabs themselves would have a problem with it. Its usually immigrants or new converts who would switch to exclusively arabic names in that manner at the expense of tribe. Could be wrong but thats what i think. Hausas typically have exclusively arab names but thats because they are mixed with arab and are considered araboid. Sometimes we should avoid thinking we know better than our forefathers- could be true in some areas, but not all. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 3:44pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Pearlsome: Justaquad, i concur to your assessment. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by hadbak: 3:45pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
justaqad:ur acusations are malicious. ur just beefing d arabs. Arabic is d language of d quran, its not just an arab thing, that's d angle u shld look at it from. Islam supercedes any culture or tradditn, Its language is arabic, take it or leave it. NB: u shld imbibe speaking arabic in ur day to day life not English/yoruba..LOL! |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by cheikh: 3:46pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Okija juju Persians (Arabs) own Islam & Jews own Christianity. @^^ Persians are not Arabs . their original faiths/religions- Bahaism, Zoroastrianism and others but Islam is an "acquired"/imported faith in Persia(Iran) hence some very fundamentalist Iranians are against "Islam"=Arab" faith and influence in what they see as against their "high" and older civiisation . 2 Likes |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by Umamman1(m): 3:47pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
justaqad:I have two yoruba friends,one is Bolade and the other one is Bolade.pls which is the male among this two coz the are opposte sex but have the same name. 1 Like |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by tpia5: 3:49pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
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Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by neey1051(m): 3:50pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
maclatunji:But come to think of it i thought herbert macaulay was from southern part of nigeria(south south are synonymous with english names) and henry carr british until now...i think i support justaqad on this...Man thumbs up |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by stuhporh: 3:51pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
justaqad: without pictures i'll say hes arab. but now that he says he is Hausa, i know 1 Like |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by hadbak: 3:52pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
demmie1:lier!!! |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by Nike93(f): 3:53pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
justaqad:chei hope u didn't hurt ur brain trying to come up with this. U better tell us your real problem,we might be able to help u know |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by tpia5: 3:54pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
I actually like the ethnic version of arab names, maybe because i'm in diaspora, not sure. And come to think of it, even hausas do have similar formats on occasion, like ahmadu for ahmad. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by stuhporh: 3:55pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
aribisala0: @Aribisala on point. This why i dont comment on this NL 1 Like |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by cheikh: 3:55pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
tpia@ Hausas typically have exclusively arab names but thats because they are mixed with arab and are considered araboid. @^^ Hausas except a few of them in Southern Zaria were totally conquered/ converted to Islam and most of them are not mixed with Arabs but Fulani. Even Sudan is not very mixed up racially but religiously they are 97% Islam. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by Nobody: 4:00pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
hadbak: @ OP... don't forget to read/say your salat in yoruba language so that u will not loose ur identity to the Arabs..WORD!!! 1 Like |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by donwilz(m): 4:00pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
hadbak: ur acusations are malicious. ur just beefing d arabs. Arabic is d language of d quran, its not just an arab thing, that's d angle u shld look at it from. Islam supercedes any culture or tradditn, Its language is arabic, take it or leave it.I am no muslim, but what you are saying in essence is the allah will not understand you when you speak in other languages, apart from arabic?. This is the height of ignorance and complex issues. The Op is spot on IMHO. This also applies to Christians! I don't get the logic in bearing alien names. I was laughed at in my high school days because i have no English name.. What happened to our pride ? God created all mankind equally. That is the beauty of diversity. Don't you ask yourselves , why God/Allah didn't make us all a single race? This is the beauty of his creation.. DIVERSITY.. Never forget your roots! 4 Likes |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by hadbak: 4:04pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
demmie1:Yeas, its d language of the quran n our dear prophet(pbuh) n it should superceed any language. I love my language but I love the lang of d quran n our dear prophet more. period! |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:06pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Umamman1: I have two yoruba friends,one is Bolade and the other one is Bolade.pls which is the male among this two coz the are opposte sex but have the same name. thats a unisex name... |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by maclatunji: 4:06pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
ayinba1: Tell him Madam... tell him. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by kufre2010(m): 4:07pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
maclatunji: OP, I am guessing your surname is also 'seen' as "Arabic" such as 'Lawal', 'Thanni' and the likes. If ur answering everythng then u hv no identity. No wonda one english man say africa has no culture afta they have change all our name 2 their language. God no like our language abi. Africans wake up |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:07pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
donwilz: I am no muslim, but what you are saying in essence is the allah will not understand you when you speak in other languages, apart from arabic?. This is the height of ignorance and complex issues. The Op is spot on IMHO. This also applies to Christians! I don't get the logic in bearing alien names. I was laughed at in my high school days because i have no English name.. What happened to our pride ? God created all mankind equally. That is the beauty of diversity. Don't you ask yourselves , why God/Allah didn't make us all a single race? This is the beauty of his creation.. DIVERSITY.. Never forget your roots! well said. thumbs up |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by Anvaller: 4:08pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Justaqad.. I am solidly behind you, I would have started exactly similar thread but I just didnt have time but its good that u did. Ur argument is very straight forward the opponents are just going against u because they find it dificult to digest a point contrary to the mainstream. Meanwhile, the mainstream doesn't always make sense. Now let's get this clear, a guy asked sarcastically that why not also pray in Yoruba? I am telling you I am on the research right now and as soon as I conclude my research and the result clears the way for me to start praying in Yoruba, surely I would without hesitating. I am just researching it to be very sure of what I am doing. I have also taken that decision to relegate my "muslim name" to 2nd name in fact I am thinking of eliminating it completely if I renew my passport this year. Those are not an obligation in Islamic faith. I have loved my muslim name since and in fact I personally made it my 1st name not my parents. But as soon as I discovered (cos I wont stop asking questions)that my decision then was based on absolute misconception, I was not in love with that name any more. Not because I am no more a muslim but because I shouldn't be an arabic muslim. And to those thinking is not a problem, it is a problem because I know in Nigeria for e.g ppl would even say stuffs like "wow u r a muslim, u dont even dress like one" yes of course because those who parade themselves as real muslims do not only adopt arabic names but also dress like the arabians at varying degrees. So if u do not have at least the white cap on.. then u r not a muslim... we should free ourselves of all these irrelevant things. It is better to rediscover ur islamic faith and be simply a muslim that God wants u to be and not a muslim the society and the arabians are making you to be. The former is the ultimate while the latter is grave. 5 Likes |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:08pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
hadbak: arabic is the language of the language,but i cant love arabic mmore than Yoruba.Islam is my religion Yoruba is my language. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by aribisala0(m): 4:09pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
stuhporh:Well an uncle once said it is important to have children because if you don't the children of foolish people will inherit the world. Even though they are in the majority on NL it is still worth speaking from time to time 4 Likes |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by olutunde12(m): 4:10pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
[quote author=maclatunji] I am getting your position now but you are getting it wrong by stating that using Muslim first names is losing your identity to Arabs. That would be correct if names as 'mac bin tunji' were pervasive amongst Yoruba people. Islam is a total concept and nothing identifies you as a Muslim more than your first name. Well Herbert Macauley and others had their Yoruba names. The oyinbos changed those names b4 they could assist them bos they said the names were evil. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:11pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
Anvaller: Justaqad.. I am solidly behind you, I would have started exactly similar thread but I just didnt have time but its good that u did. Ur argument is very straight forward the opponents are just going against u because they find it dificult to digest a point contrary to the mainstream. Meanwhile, the mainstream doesn't always make sense. my hopes are high. its better you reason with your head not your hand. great one bro 1 Like |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by hadbak: 4:13pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
justaqad:beef!!! Simple.. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:14pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
maclatunji: its African, so what? Husein isn't his first name |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:15pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
hadbak: beef!!! Simple.. there is no beef bro. i simply love my root more than any other. |
Re: We Are Losing Our Identity To The Arabs by justaqad(m): 4:16pm On Feb 05, 2013 |
ayinba1: the name Barack is african,Obama is Afrcan American. Husein aint his first name |
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