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Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by pazienza(m): 5:38am On Mar 05, 2013 |
Guk: The Ojora of Ijora land, Oba Fatai Oyeyinka Ojora on Monday declared the support of the Ojora Chieftaincy family for the plans of the state government to develop a Home Ownership Mortgage Scheme on the wide expanse of land in Iganmu Alawo in Ijora. Chai! When someone that was meant to protect you,sell you out to your tormentors. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 9:26am On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile: How foolish of you to say such. A young man has just lost his ticket to a better tomorrow and you dismiss his aspirations so wickedly. May such inhumane acts befall your children if such is your wish for one born of a woman. I am so far sitting on a ledge on this issue, here is a slum which needs to be addressed however to do so without any alternative location for the inhabitants to reorganise their lives and move forward is evil. This people would either move on to the next slum and build another illegal structure, live under bridges polluting the environment or die out of hardship and sickness. Leadership is a difficult task where tough decisions need be made but they don't have to be callous and wicked 2 Likes |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 9:35am On Mar 05, 2013 |
Have you ever wondered what mega cities around the world do to address shelter for poor populations they build large housing complexes multi storey building .They are not fancy just simple structures. Meagre payments are required. Lagos has to at some stage consider this solution. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 9:42am On Mar 05, 2013 |
ichidodo: HARI KRISHNA MOTHERF#*KER! Bad form man, that is báng out of order and racist to say the least. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 9:46am On Mar 05, 2013 |
omiobo: No matter how many unpleasant reports the right and due process should still be followed. The affected individuals should be notified and given time to relocate. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 9:52am On Mar 05, 2013 |
A-ZeD: If they were told and said no it would've been better because in so doing an alternative has been provided one which would have to suffice until they can get a legal shelter of their choosing. In this scenario people woke up to destruction of the little piece of comfort they had without prior notification. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 9:55am On Mar 05, 2013 |
stupor: And you're still a fool. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 10:08am On Mar 05, 2013 |
Truckpusher: Lagos wasn't meant for everyone ...........it's high time we begin to realize that for any meaningful development to take place lots of sacrifices must be made and of course the poor people will bear the consequences ,they shouldn't murmur but accept it as a part they played in building a better nation for their future generation this is where patriotism comes into play. What have you done for your nation to claim patriotism. Since the children of the poor have to sacrifice their future and serve the like of you till the end. May Sango strike you where you stand. Your children would serve another man in shame. |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 10:12am On Mar 05, 2013 |
A-ZeD: For whom to reside. Those units would be high end accommodation for the rich and their people. A certain relation was once perm sec for housing in Lagos and I can tell you how this shit goes. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by busolayemi: 10:57am On Mar 05, 2013 |
I am deeply convinced within my spiri dat dis people must have been served a notice. I dnt see fashola as a governor who can go demolish buildings without a prior notice. I had been in a situation like this before. Wen an aunt of mine was stayin at kilo side of surulere, d house was properly structured and everybody cud seen d house is bcomin dangerous to live in cos d house was bent. Everybody in d house was served a notice like 6mnths b4 d house was demolished.....and as at d time wen d action was taken, sum occupants were stil there. These set of people will neva declare to u dat dey were told. Dats d same with dis ijora people. D only language an average Nigerian understands is force...any oda tin, na story 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by apalemighty(m): 1:51pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Leboska: Crazy u. Fashola is the king of due process. So dnt let dis PDP advocates tel u otherwise. They were givin notice since last year! |
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Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by apalemighty(m): 1:59pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
ROSSIKE: Guy. Free am nah. Dem no call any rubbish deity name. Nd to correct u na God. Nt gods dem bring |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by EkoIle1: 3:33pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
sweet_gala: Instead of the insults and curses, why not move your family into one of these slums to show solidarity that it's a great place to live. When you are done doing that, also come up with any sane plan from how much money you have to borrow the state to build free houses for millions of illegal settlers and also what you can set aside to continue building free houses for the new thousands entering lagos daily. Cursing and insults is one thing unintelligent people know how to do, making sense and formulating good ideas and solutions is what they don't know hoe to do. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by Nobody: 3:48pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile:Don't mind that senseless goat. |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sucess001(m): 6:14pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile: sorry Eko Ile...am going with sweet gala on this one. i really do not know why you support the lagos government always but at times u should think of human beigns...they deserve to live...pause and think....what if u were born as a child there...do u deserve to be rendered homeless? think about people not your affiliations... 2 Likes |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by EkoIle1: 6:27pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
sucess001: You can go with what ever you want which means nothing to anybody including the illegal settlers unless you agree that such filth and living conditions is good for any human being to call home including you and your family. I'll take you people seriously when you do away with your disingenuous poor man concerns and come up with sane solutions. Actions solve problems, not meaningless sentiments and emotions.. |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 7:35pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile: I never said to provide free accommodation, what I said to do was to follow a socialist system where affordable housing is created. And the insults came from how you conveniently dismissed the poor young man's aspirations and effort without some compassion. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 7:36pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
django1:Django mind yourself. Don't be a fool such is not required of an adult. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 7:43pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile: A man cannot live without a reasonable amount of sentiment and emotions. I apologise for the insult. I can't claim I am not shocked that such an environment had not been torn down and addressed long time ago but we can't just take fellow humans and render them homeless without options. It is never done like so,Even if the alternative is not in the immediate vicinity of the slum, a stop gap settlement would suffice. But I can't apologise for my reaction to how you dismissed the man's loss of documents that can pave the road to a better slum-free future. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sucess001(m): 7:51pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile: Bros...u re mentally sick. Funny enuf, am one of d comfortable pple in d society. Buh I was once poor(maybe not as much as dwell in d slum) and I knw poor or rich deserves to live and be sheltered. By God...these pple shudnt even be in this condition if we had a sane govt who considered it worthwhile to have a social security system in place Yet B.astards like u want to paint d LASg in a gud light for dis crime againt humanity! May your children be rendered homeless! Wasted s.emen! 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by EkoIle1: 8:09pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
sweet_gala: All that aside. I still need you to answer yes or no if such filth and living conditions is ok for any human being to call home and should be tolerated or allowed to exist by any responsible government. I also still need you to tell me where the money to reward illegal activities going to come from. The reality remains that the government is still struggling to provide for millions of taxpayers so where is the sense in diverting billions of scarce resources to reward millions of illegal settlers and law breakers in so many slums around Lagos state. People make choices in life ad we all have to live with whatever choices we made. Sentiments and emotions doesn't solve anything, it's just an expression of feelings. |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sucess001(m): 8:12pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
Eko Ile: And these 'illegal' settlers aint tax payin? Oga...dose brains re meant to be used na... 2 Likes |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by EkoIle1: 8:17pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
They don't pay taxes and the government can not tax illegal shanties and slums, doing so means enabling and condoning lawlessness and illegalities, they call them illegal settlements for a reason. Even paying taxes in not an excuse to break the law... Btw, you still can make your point without the insults and curses like an adult if you really are an adult. |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sweetgala(m): 8:43pm On Mar 05, 2013 |
sucess001: You still don't get it , I stated already that such a slum should have been destroyed a long time ago. However due process should be followed always. 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by birdman(m): 1:46am On Mar 06, 2013 |
sweet_gala: "Should have" abi? How about I come squat in front of your house for a year. What kind of due process are you going to follow to get rid of me. You "should have" gotten rid of me earlier |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by sucess001(m): 7:51am On Mar 06, 2013 |
Eko Ile: They don't pay taxes and the government can not tax illegal shanties and slums, doing so means enabling and condoning lawlessness and illegalities, they call them illegal settlements for a reason. Ur response to my "civil' post warranted d insults.I only gave u a taste of ur medicine albeit by taking it up a notch higher. See wat a responsible government does for its pple...President Hugo Chavez issued Presidential Decree 1666 in February 2002, providing a legal basis for Urban Land Committees (Comités de Tierras Urbanas, CTUs) to be formed.[46] These develop land titling in urban areas. Under the February 2002 decree, local committees (representing 100-200 families) may apply to a government office for the local "barrio" residents to be given property title for state-owned land they have informally occupied on a long-term basis. The committees operate on the principle of participatory democracy, and create maps of the local area, on the basis of which (after official verification) land titles are drawn up.[46] By mid 2005, there were around 5000 CTUs, representing around 5m Venezuelans, and the government had issued over 84,000 titles to 126,000 families, benefiting about 630,000 inhabitants (out of a total urban poor population of around 10m).[47] By October 2006 the government said that over 200,000 titles had been assigned, benefiting about 1m inhabitants.[48] During the past decade under Chavez, the income poverty rate in Venezuela dropped by more than half, from 54% of households below poverty level in the first half of 2003, down to 26% at the end of 2008. "Extreme poverty" fell even more - by 72%. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez_government#section_2 1 Like |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by rhymz(m): 10:46am On Mar 06, 2013 |
I am begining to view most staunch ACN supporters from the SW as closeted tribalists and pretenders. See how most of you are quick to talk about sacrifices, yet JEG towed this same line of argument and you all poured out on the streets of OJOTA and started a Las Vagas styled show only to throw insults at Jonathan and win some cheap political points but in reality, we all knew it was a neccessary evil we had to confront. If you are in the oil and gas sector you will know this, it was with this understanding that most people in the Eastern region shunned that protest. It was more of a sentimental and greedy protest to continue status quo than any honest fight for the poor. Now a gross violation of people's right to exist is being perpetrated by their favourite man and they have all thrown caution and moderation into the wind to support a gang style take over in the name of cleaning up the place. 2 Likes |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by omonnakoda: 10:55am On Mar 06, 2013 |
Subsidy bill rose from 256 billion to more than 2 Trillion Naira in under 4 years and GEJ was right to seek to stop that. But Nigerians wonder how the figure grew from under $2 billion to over $8 billion in 3 years. We non know . Yet the petroleum mininister is still in office and no one in prison. The reality is GEJ himself did not understand what was going on.Ngozi Okonjo Iweala came into office and by that time the subsidy was 2 trillion. I want to believe she acted in good faith. But how did it get to that figure. Nigerians were being asked to make sacrifices to the tune of $8 billion for money that was being stolen. Sadly the fuel subsidy debacle is NOT a good example to use if you want to fight GEJ's battle. How come the subsidy bill has come down so abruptly in 12 months. Can anyone help us by telling us the latest figure?? |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by rhymz(m): 11:39am On Mar 06, 2013 |
omonnakoda: Subsidy bill rose from 256 billion to more than 2 Trillion Naira in under 4 years and GEJ was right to seek to stop that. But Nigerians wonder how the figure grew from under $2 billion to over $8 billion in 3 years. We non know . Yet the petroleum mininister is still in office and no one in prison. The reality is GEJ himself did not understand what was going on.Ngozi Okonjo Iweala came into office and by that time the subsidy was 2 trillion. I want to believe she acted in good faith. But how did it get to that figure.So JEG should have first maintained that such obscene payment continues while an investigation is launched into it, right? The fuel subsidy is a very apt example here, in Jonathan's case it was very justified to stop such payment. How you choose to interprete is not Jonathan's Wahala, people in the east were already paying that much while fraudulent Oil marketers who were mostly business men from the SW and the north were busy undermining the system and selling fuel outside Nigeria's borders. There was no talk of sacrificing then but now just because folks want to defend Fashola's high-handedness in the matter, they are talking about sacrifices, what has Govt done for those common folks there? That place is like that not because they love to live in such deplorable conditions but because there is no presence of any government efforts there. Fashola likes to act like the government does not have its own role to play in ensuring these places are kept clean. All they care about is collect taxes and build elitist projects. Fashola is working yet, in my house I have to dig my own pipe for water, pay full 1yr rent to my landlord, the psp people dont even come around anymore so I ve to be creative with my refuse dump, the road to my street is a mess, and so on. . What exactly does he do for me despite my huge taxes. Abeg make we hear word jor |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by omonnakoda: 12:04pm On Mar 06, 2013 |
rhymz: So JEG should have first maintained that such obscene payment continues while an investigation is launched into it, right? I will reproduce my quote again omonnakoda: Subsidy bill rose from 256 billion to more than 2 Trillion Naira in under 4 years and GEJ was right to seek to stop that. But Nigerians wonder how the figure grew from under $2 billion to over $8 billion in 3 years. We non know . Yet the petroleum mininister is still in office and no one in prison. The reality is GEJ himself did not understand what was going on.Ngozi Okonjo Iweala came into office and by that time the subsidy was 2 trillion. I want to believe she acted in good faith. But how did it get to that figure.Rather than just jumping in to quote people ,first read and understand. If the analysis or ideas are beyond your comprehension be quiet. Why are you quoting me do you understand my reasoning. Go and play with your mates. The fact is the figure grew to that exten during HIS WATCH The issue was not about the fuel price at the pump but $8 billion abracadabra THAT IS THE ISSUE |
Re: Fashola Destroys Slums In Lagos, Leaving Thousands Homeless by EkoIle1: 3:08pm On Mar 06, 2013 |
sucess001: 1. Nothing about my response was uncivil. The quote below was my response and so kindly show me the insult. Insults means you are a juvenile and your only form of expression is insults. You can go with what ever you want which means nothing to anybody including the illegal settlers unless you agree that such filth and living conditions is good for any human being to call home including you and your family. 2. Your Venezuela analogy and the story means nothing when it comes to Lagos state. It's absolutely irrelevant. 3. It is ok if your idea of helping illegal settlers is to let them exist in slums, in disease, let them eat and drink human waste, let them pollute the environment and the lagoon with toxic waste, but no human being should be allowed to live in such deplorable and abominable conditions poor or not. So, you are wrong, that place is no place for your dog to live talk less you and your family. It's really warped and thoughtless to suggest that the government should legalize their stay in that horrible mess and existence. |
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