₦airaland Forum

5thElement:
Mr bishopmagic or magisbishop or whatever. It's quite
plain that you despise the Yoruba people going by your previous comments.

What I don't understand is why you keep opening threads about Yoruba Moslems or even about the Yoruba in general.

We get. You and your tribes folks on Nairaland are ecstatic that a king in Yoruba land has decided to put on an emir's regalia.

So after a few days of jumping around and celebrating this, one would have thought you guys would move on already.

So can you answer this question please:

Why are you crying more than the bereaved?

5thElement:
Oo ni laakaye. Ti o ba ni laakaye ni o ye ki o ye e wipe kii se ori thread ti omo Igbo shi lati fi maa soro si awa Yoruba loye ki o ti ma so gbogbo eleyi.


Ti o ba ni laakaye ni, o ye ki o mo wipe a ni lati koko le kolokolo lo na ki a to ma ba adiye wi.


If you don't understand the proverb in that last statement give it to an interpreter ki o tunmo e fun e.


You aren't the only Yoruba who is a Christian on this forum, mind you.

Ti a ba ta ara ile eni ni opo a o le ri ra pada ni owon. (Another proverb)


Awa wi tai wi o wa so wipe ki Yoruba ronu. Se iwo ronu bayi. Ti o ba ronu jinle wa ri wipe awon omo Igbo fe fi esin ko eyin omo Yoruba si ara won.


We know the ploy of the recalcitrant Yoruba bashers, especially of Igbo origin on this forum.


Their constant use of the phrase " Yoruba Moslems" gives them away as being jealous of the peace that exists in Yorubaland and so, they want to employ the use of divide and conquer tactic.


The Oluwo of Iwo land should be deposed and the crown given to someone else since he doesn't want to be the Oluwo anymore.


That's my submission. And if you're going to make your point, you should open another thread for it. Latching yourself to this thread to insult your fellow Yorubas because of religion shows that YOU are the traitor and you've allowed this fool of an op who despises everything Yoruba to convince you that Yorubas are indeed different because of religion.


You can see the way they've been jumping up and down since the news broke and you thought he actually opened this thread to sympathize with you.


O din ojo kan leni ti awon omo Igbo, awon irankiran maa te ni ile Yoruba. Wo n je, wo n mu, wo n yo faalala ni ile Yoruba bi idun ti o bo sori aatan, won wa n yo suti ete si wa.

Iwo wa nn gbeja won, nitori esin abi nitori omo Igbo ti o n fe abi? Se omo Yoruba to daju ni iwo yii sha?


The Rwandan war between the Hutu and the Tutsi will be child's play when sh1t hits the fan.

Let them continue. Je ki won maa baa lo.

Morbeta11:
Go home.... Puck your wives...... Love your children and trust not in the name of Nnamdi Kanu whose betray was one too many..

Ezemarcel:
Because of election

BishopMagic:
How Yoruba Muslims Sacked Old Oyo And Will Do Same For All Odua

Ilorin was a small town in the Oyo Empire by the beginning of the 19th century. Afonja, Baale of Ilorin, who also held the title of Are Ona Kakanfo of the Oyo Empire, rebelled against his king, the Alafin of Oyo, in 1817. (There is no space here for the reasons for his rebellion). In order to sustain his rebellion, he was desperate to build a large and powerful army. To that end, he did a number of desperate things.

First, he invited the people of nearby villages to move to Ilorin and turn Ilorin into a large town. Many people so moved, but most refused.

Secondly, he reached out to many prominent friends all over the Oyo country, and invited them to come and live in Ilorin. Some accepted his invitation and came. Among these was a rich trader named Solagberu from Kuwo. Another was a man named Alimi, a Fulani man who had long lived in the Oyo country peddling charms from town to town. Afonja employed Alimi to make charms for him and his army.

Thirdly, Afonja decided to exploit a religious situation that was causing trouble in the country at the time. A Jihad movement had started in Hausaland in the north in 1804, generating wars and stormy Islamic evangelism there. It was started and led by an immigrant people called Fulani. The Fulani immigrants were few among the large Hausa nation, but very many of the Hausa who were already Muslims sided with the Fulani – and thus made it possible for the Fulani to defeat the ancient Hausa kings and make themselves rulers over Hausaland.

Some of the violent Jihadist preachers trickled south into the Oyo country. Everywhere they came, they were causing a lot of commotion by preaching violent and disrespectful sermons against the Oyo kings and chiefs, and against Yoruba culture in general. Yoruba people, with their tradition of religious tolerance, were alarmed; and angry crowds began to attack the preachers. Afonja decided to exploit the situation by issuing a general invitation to the Muslims to flee to him in Ilorin, promising to give them protection there. Thousands of frightened Muslims fled to Ilorin, and Afonja trained many of them for his army. (Afonja himself did not intend to convert to Islam, and he never did).

Fourthly, most rich Oyo families had Hausa, Nupe and Fulani slaves - used mostly in farming, trading, livestock rearing, etc. Most were Muslims.

Afonja decided to exploit this also. He issued a proclamation saying that if any slaves ran away from their owners and came to him in Ilorin, he would give them freedom and protection there. Large numbers of slaves, mostly Hausa, fled to Afonja, and he trained some of them for his army.

Afonja thus had his large town and large army. Most of his army’s commanders and soldiers were Oyo Muslims. A few of the soldiers were Muslim Hausa – all slaves recently set free by Afonja. But many of his Hausa soldiers were unruly. He warned or threatened them repeatedly, but with no result. When he at last decided to discipline them, they mutinied. Afonja was killed in the mutiny - in 1823.

Meanwhile, while Alimi had been making charms for the army, he had become a friend to many of the Oyo commanders who were Muslims, and these hadmade him Imam (Islamic teacher and preacher) for the Muslim community in the army. After Afonja›s death, the same friends gradually made their Imam the ruler of Ilorin. They also created some officers among the Hausa soldiers - for instance, Balogun Gambari. The powerful men doing all these things were Oyo.

That then is how Oyo people made a Fulani man the ruler of Ilorin. When Alimi died, his elder son, Abdulsalam, was elevated to his father’s position by his father›s powerful Oyo Muslim friends. Adulsalam had lived in the Jihad in Hausaland and had only recently come to live with his father in Ilorin. He knew that the Jihad had made the Fulani the rulers of Ilorin - with a Fulani Sultanate based in Sokoto and quasi-independent Fulani Emirs in the separate Hausa kingdoms. So, after he was made ruler of Ilorin, he sent to Hausaland to announce that he had established an Emirate in Ilorin and to ask that his Emirate should be accepted as part of the Fulani Sultanate.

In this way, Ilorin became a Fulani Emirate, ruled by a Fulani family.

Ilorin was, in population, still an Oyo town - probably over 95% Oyo in population. And Ilorin was never conquered or even invaded by any Fulani army. Those influential Oyo men who made Alimi and his son the rulers of Ilorin did so out of fervour for their Islamic faith.

When the news of the happenings in Ilorin spread all over the Oyo country, people were shocked to hear that Ilorin people had made the family of an obscure Fulani charm peddler their rulers. Therefore, people formed armies to go and subdue Ilorin and flush out the Fulani impostors. None of these invasions of Ilorin succeeded. The invading armies were poorly organized, and, moreover, the old Afonja army defending Ilorin was just too powerful. In fact, in the end, the Ilorin people, in order to ensure perfect protection for their fervently Muslim town, decided to go out and conquer most of Yorubaland (all the way to the sea coast), and make all of it a Muslim empire ruled from Ilorin.

Their army marched out in about 1838, conquering town after town towards the south, and causing mammoth streams of refugees. Till today, most Yoruba people still call this Ilorin invasion a Fulani invasion of Yorubaland. But it was not a Fulani invasion at all; it was an attempt by the predominantly Yoruba Muslim people of Ilorin to conquer and Islamize the rest of Yorubaland.

The victorious Ilorin march southwards ended suddenly in 1840. The refugees who had gathered in the Egba village of Ibadan had quickly become a large town. Their army marched out and met the Ilorin army in Oshogbo in 1840, and totally destroyed them, capturing many of their commanders. From then on, the power of Ilorin was more or less over, and Ilorin never dared again to face the Ibadan army in battle.

In the following years, Ibadan became the most powerful state in Yorubaland, and established control over the Oshun valley, Ife, Ijesa, Ekiti, Akoko, Igbomina and parts of Iyagba. Ilorin continued to be ambitious to control some territory in its immediate neighbourhood – in nearby Igbomina and Ibolo (especially Offa); but they feared Ibadan. In 1877, the Ekiti, Ijesa, Igbomina and Akoko revolted against Ibadan’s rule, and the Kiriji War started, keeping all these peoples and Ibadan busy until 1893. Ilorin took advantage of this and established some feeble control over parts of Igbomina and Ibolo.

However, at home in Ilorin itself, a proper Emirate could not develop. The powerful Yoruba war chiefs wanted to re-establish the traditional Yoruba political system whereby the chiefs in a kingdom select their king. The Emirs resisted. By 1895, the chiefs were winning the contest grandly – a situation which forced the Emir Momoh to commit suicide after setting his palace on fire. The victorious chiefs then installed Sulaiman as Emir. This was the situation when the forces of the British Royal Niger Company came and conquered Ilorin in 1897.

In the years that followed, it was the British that established Ilorin as a full-fledged emirate, making the Ilorin Emir like the Emirs of Hausaland. The Emir then took advantage of that to establish all sorts of Emirate-type control over Ibolo and northern Igbomina.

In short, Ilorin was never conquered (was never even invaded) by the Fulani. Ilorin is more than 90% Yoruba in population. The Igbomina, Ibolo, and Ekiti of Kwara, because they have hated the imposture of the Ilorin Emirs since the beginning of British rule, tend to be usually cool towards Ilorin. Rather it was the treasonable ambition of Afonja and the Yoruba Muslim converts who handed Ilorin to the Fulanis.

Today, the same group are at the forefront fighting to ensure that all Yoruba land falls to Sokoto.

fk001:
Divide and conquer will not work for you...





Yoruba's are united

ReformedAPC:
Caliphate money speaking

Paperwhite:
Alway the Yoruba Muslims acting the stooge for the caliphate.MURIC & Muslim Community of Oyo State.

orunto27:
Satan punish 12Monkeys.

OlanreJohnson:
Plain truth!

Yet they complain about Radio Biafra!

caleboxylic:
Rivers without etche,omuma, ndoki, ASA and egbema. Ndoni most likely to join biafra. Are you sure of Ogoja not going with Biafra? Research well.

Igboesika:
Going to 3 years after the election and Jonathan is still on their lips ?

Oshomole is big f00l.

This frequent nagging about Jonathan this Jonathan that shows that Buhari will be receiving stones from different directions after 2019 ( If the vegetable is still with the living)

Sapiosexuality:
To be honest this is about the man Abiola than the nature of the election. Abiola was a philanthropist. We know that.

But the thing here is the idea that election that brought him was most free and fair in Nigeria's history. I can't find the basis for this assertion so I need to know the parameters used in arriving at this point.

Charisma is not the issue here. Donald Trump also is charismatic but the election that brought him wasn't free of violence and threats. That's my point. Let's talk about the election and not the man.

Sapiosexuality:
This is the issue. On what basis did we arrive at that? How did we know it was the fairest? How did it do better in these terms when place with the 1999, 1982, 2003-2015 Elections? Feelings?

Sapiosexuality:
There's no point calling names. I'm here to seek answers to some things I find difficult to swallow. Was June 12 the freest and fairest election we ever had?

vicadex07:
Yeah and that was because the purpose of june 12 has been acheived which is democracy.

seankay:
One Nigeria is not the problem. The problem is that the leaders are only after their personal interests. If agitation for good leadership can be of the same fervor at which the secessionists are clamouring for their new Country, Nigeria would be a better place

seankay:
With a colossal Agricultural potential, Oil, favourable weather, Tourist Attractions and presence of mineral resources, high literacy level and clamour for good governance, South West will definitely make a great Country.

sarrki:
We are omoluabis we know only God that can decides the future with certainty