Maria-Goretti:
I love the part of encouraging me to keep ''honouring'' her because that is what I have always done and will keep doing...
The part she was mentioned when Jesus performed his first miracle..
Jesus told her that his hour has not yet come...why did he still obey her? Why didnt he just wait till when his hour to perform miracles arrive? have you though about that?

naijadeyhia:

If men were to honour her why didnt any of the apostles right from the book of Acts to Revelation give her any special attention or honour to the point that it had to be recorded for us to make reference to in our time? After all they were with her and they are meant to be the ones to first honour her aggressively but none of such was recorded. Why didnt they seek her permission before embarking on missionary trips? Why didnt John whom she was handed over to when Christ was on the cross not take time to document her importance and reasons why she should be honoured? Yet those who were not there are insisting that she be honoured? Puzzling isnt it?

philfearon: I pray all of u that are saying bad things About Mary to have a change of heart...Even if u dont believe that Mary is in Heaven,please dont disregard that she is still the Mother of Jesus Christ...Dont forget that it was 2ru her that we had hope of making Heaven....
One of the things that is hard to change in Life is "mindset"..
I dont knw how u(superior,naijadeyhia) cultivated ur own,but u stil have time to change...
@superior,try and read what i told u to,or u get the book itself..The name is "MORE ABOUT FATIMA"..

naijadeyhia:

Real believers are not taught by a church but by the Spirit of God whose assignment is to teach us all things, lead us into all truth and glorify God in us. A church might attempt at instructing but confirmation of the word comes from the Holy Spirit. You were taught by the catholic church but I was and am still being taught by the Holy Spirit of the Living God.

chukwudi44: Maria please stop replying that dude.He seriously sounds like a boko haram suicide bomber!! There are completely ignorant of christian scriptures!

naijadeyhia:

He did respond to her by calling her "woman"and not "mother". He did what she asked because it was in His nature to do good and not because she asked. A blind man asked Him if thou will i would like to receive my sight and He said "I WILL" receive your sight. It is His will to do good as that was why He came in the first place. Was Mary present in the other instances when he did good? Her presence wasnt relevant to His assignment. The Bible said "How Jesus Christ went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed of the devil" Was the presence of Mary relevant in all this?

Maria-Goretti:
lol, Of course he called her woman, na man e go call am before? Are you saying that calling her woman makes her less of a mother to him?
it is true that it is in his nature to do good but why still complain to her that his hour has not yet arrived? He is still God, isnt he? So he can decide to disagree to his mother's request.
Now, why didnt Mary wait to confirm his affirmation to her request before confidently asking the servants to ''do what he says'', huh?
Cant you see? She came to Jesus in 2 ways...as her son and God.
She have in mind that God has favoured her and wont deny her of her request if its for the good of her children. She beleived in her son, who is also God.

Whats so hard in this?

naijadeyhia:


God didnt need Mary when He made Adam and Eve but the reason why he needed her for Christ was because Christ was meant to be a perfect sacrifice so He had to come in sinful form which could only happen if He came through a sinful vessel. Yes she was a virgin but still was the offspring of fallen Adam and Eve. The focus was Christ and not Mary.

superior1:

Matthew 12:46-50

46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”

48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.

Comment on those verses above

Maria-Goretti:
...did Mary do the will of God or not?

superior1:

Is that all you have say?, Jesus refused seeing Mary in that verse and told His listeners those who do the will of God are is brothers and mothers.

Jesus didnt only refused Mary's request, He ignored her and reduce her status to be equal of all believers, no?

Maria-Goretti:
...nwokem, thats a yes/no question.
Ok, I will rephrase.
Did Mary do the will of God or not?
Did she or did she not do the will of God?

superior1:

God's will as per what?

Maria-Goretti:
Luke 1:38
'' I am the handmaid of the Lord, may it happen to me aas you have said..''

There and then she accepted to do God's will which is to be the Mother of God.

Or was that not God's will for her?

doclan: To those who needed name, I ve come wt names for U... Church of Christ(rom16vs16) body of Christ(col1vs18)... Want more?? Concerning doctrines, check the new testament mode of worship and teachings.. A body dat still holds to the basic teaching of the apostles.. Oya comment.

naijadeyhia:


but the reason why he needed her for Christ was because Christ was meant to be a perfect sacrifice so He had to come in sinful form which could only happen if He came through a sinful vessel. .

superior1:

You this unrepentant protestant!!! , arent you a Jehovah Witness or something

Maria-Goretti:
Luke 1:38
'' I am the handmaid of the Lord, may it happen to me aas you have said..''

There and then she accepted to do God's will which is to be the Mother of God.

Or was that not God's will for her?

superior1:

Matthew 12:46-50

46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”

48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.

Comment on those verses above

superior1:

Matthew 12:46-50

46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”

48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.

Comment on those verses above

philfearon:
Did the bible tell u that He didnt later attend to them?
You see why you are so foolish?

philfearon:
do u watch ur statements at all?
Where in the Bible was it written that Christ was infested with the Original sin as u claimed above?
You see what i have been talking about!!

doclan: To those who needed name, I ve come wt names for U... Church of Christ(rom16vs16) body of Christ(col1vs18)... Want more?? Concerning doctrines, check the new testament mode of worship and teachings.. A body dat still holds to the basic teaching of the apostles.. Oya comment.

superior1:

If you keep using words of that nature, you will keep demonstrating the quality of your upbringing. The Bible told us He ignored her and refused to meet her, that's all.

naijadeyhia:

Why did the bible say that He that knew no sin was made sin? Why did the bible say that. In Romans 8:3 it declares "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh". Now dispute that scripture with your own analogy and mindset

superior1:

Yeah, She submitted to God's plan and I am also a believer in Christ. So myself, Mary and other Christ believers are the brother and mother of Jesus, Jesus refused to grant Mary audience and didn't give her any special recognition when she came calling on Him in the chapter i showed you

philfearon:
Am not with my bible where i am now,i could have quoted what i wanted to say now....
When John The Baptist refused to Baptise Jesus,saying it should be the other way round,what did Jesus Say to Him?

philfearon: .
See wetin ignorance and lack of undastanding dey do!!
Those verses u just quoted,were they not referred to a set of People?
Maybe St.Paul should have just written "a Letter to the Church of Christ and a Letter to the Body of Christ"..........
Thats what you are saying then right?
Before there will be a Church of Christ or Body of Christ,there must be a gathering...And when Paul wrote those letters,he referred it to these gathered faithfuls.....
So its either u belong to a gathering of Faithfuls or u are just decieving urself with The Body Of Christ Mentality,u and ur Cohorts....

naijadeyhia:

[b]Mother of God indeed. I guess since the holy spirit overshadowed her that means the Holy spirit is the father of God. smh. The mystery of the Lords conception is beyond you and yours. FYI Mary said that she is the handmaid of the Lord. Handmaid means servant. It means of lowly estate. It shows how humble she was and not her so called high and lifted position you are all making her out to be. Even John the baptist was greater than Mary because Matthew 11:11, in which Jesus declares:

Amen, I say to you, among those born of women there has been none greater than John the Baptist; yet the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

In this passage, our Lord is extolling the importance of John the Baptist in the plan of salvation. As the last of the prophets, he had the unique role as the forerunner to Christ. Furthermore, his greatness is seen in his humility: instead of his important role leading to pride, John the Baptist chose the humble path, making his whole life one that points to another. As Scripture constantly repeats, it is the humble who are exalted and the exalted who are humbled.[/b]