Maria-Goretti:
FYI, there was never a time Jesus as the son of God was seperated from Jesus as the son of man.
Like I said before, even when he came to the world as a man, he is still God..
So, whats the confusion about? You are trying to differentiate the two personalities as two different personsbut my brother, he is just one and he possessed both of them on earth.
He accepted to do the will of God that was the reason he came to this world as a man..so that that aim can be acheived effectively...because I know that God can always do whatever he wanted to do without even sacrificing his son but he did it anyway...so, who am I to question him?

naijadeyhia: [b]Do you know that in the new testament the words Son of Man was used 88 times?. In Hebrew Son of Man means Son of Adam. Many sceptical scholars believe that Jesus referred to Himself as the Son of Man, because it is unlikely to have been an invention of the early Church. For example, in the Gospels, ‘Son of Man’ is Jesus’ favourite self-designation. Yet in the epistles, it is never used of Jesus. In fact, the term appears in the New Testament only 4 times outside of the Gospels and never in extra-biblical Christian writings during the first 120 years following Jesus. The point is: How likely is it that the Church originated the title Son of Man as Jesus’ favourite self-description, when the Church itself did not refer to him in this manner?

So what did Jesus mean when He called Himself the Son of Man? Some surmise that the term places an emphasis on Jesus’ humanity compared to ‘Son of God’ which places an emphasis on His divinity. But this fails to take into account the significant historical context in which Jesus uses the term and how He understood it. How Jesus understood the term ‘Son of Man’ is important, since He used it of Himself more than any other term.

To find the answer, let us go back to the Old Testament and look at what the prophet Daniel said.

‘In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.’ (Daniel 7:13-14)

Daniel speaks of the ‘son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. . . . He was given authority, glory and sovereign power . . .’

With this in mind, consider these statements of Jesus in the New Testament Gospels:

‘For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.’ (John 5:27)

‘At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.’ (Matthew 24:30 [italics mine])

‘So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time. But in those days, following that distress, ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ At that time men will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.’ (Mark 13:24-27)

‘At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.’ (Luke 21:27)

It seems obvious from these scriptures that when Jesus spoke of Himself as being the Son of Man, He had Daniel 7 in mind.
In addition, some first century Jews identified the Son of Man as also the Christ or Messiah.
Jesus had just spoken of His death by crucifixion as being ‘lifted up.’ The crowd responded, ‘We have heard from the Law that the Christ will remain forever, so how can you say, ‘The Son of Man must be lifted up?’ Who is this ‘Son of Man?’’
Jesus also believed the Son of Man, the Son of God, and the Messiah (Christ) were the same person. Not only did He claim to be all three separately, but in an interesting passage He responds in the affirmative to the Jewish leadership’s linking both Son of God and Christ, then adds Son of Man:
‘The high priest said to him, ‘I charge you under oath by the living God:

Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God.’ ‘Yes, it is as you say,’ Jesus replied. ‘But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.’ Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, ‘He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. What do you think?’ ‘He is worthy of death,’ they answered.’ (Matthew 26:63-66)

Finally, Jesus understood the Son of Man to exist prior to His human birth:

‘No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.’ (John 3:13)

‘What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!’ (John 6:62)

In summary, Jesus’ favourite term to refer to Himself was ‘Son of Man.’ He understood the designation to refer to the divine Son of Man of Daniel 7 who would rule with glory and power. Moreover, He understood the Son of Man also to be the pre-existent Son of God and Messiah. Who did Jesus think He was? Clearly He thought He was the divine Son of Man.[/b]

Maria-Goretti:
my brother, what is tis long writeup? Whats this arguement about?
Whether Jesus is the son of God or son of man?

naijadeyhia:

God could not do anything he wanted without a sacrifice. God never contradicts himself. He set the pattern for atonement of sins as a yearly sacrifice of bulls and oxen in the old testament so only a sacrifice could achieve His aim and Hence the perfect sacrifice who was jesus

naijadeyhia:

God could not do anything he wanted without a sacrifice. God never contradicts himself. He set the pattern for atonement of sins as a yearly sacrifice of bulls and oxen in the old testament so only a sacrifice could achieve His aim and Hence the perfect sacrifice who was jesus

Maria-Goretti:
''God could not do anything''? Are you serious? Do you know his mind?
He set the pattern, do you think he cant unset it?
Think well my brothe, it is God we are talking of here o.
I said, God can choose not to use his son as a sacrifice but he did it anyway.
That reply of yours ahve nothing in common with my quote.

naijadeyhia:

I know who Jesus is..the question is do you?

naijadeyhia:

This shows you do not understand the plan of God right from after Adam fell. Only a sacrifice in obedience would suffice and nothing else. Yes God can do anything he wants but in this case the requirement was set in stone. I suggest you do a bit of studying your bible and asking the holy spirit for insight.

naijadeyhia:

This shows you do not understand the plan of God right from after Adam fell. Only a sacrifice in obedience would suffice and nothing else. Yes God can do anything he wants but in this case the requirement was set in stone. I suggest you do a bit of studying your bible and asking the holy spirit for insight.

Maria-Goretti:
lol, honey, dont mind me jare...this nysc stuff just swallowed my time...thank god it will soon be over

naijadeyhia:

This shows you do not understand the plan of God right from after Adam fell. Only a sacrifice in obedience would suffice and nothing else. Yes God can do anything he wants but in this case the requirement was set in stone. I suggest you do a bit of studying your bible and asking the holy spirit for insight.

achi4u: lol.
Maria I so much miss you,please don't yelled to their advances.


#isi ga agbaka Torchman ugbu a#

Maria-Goretti:
nwannem nwoke, rapu that thing.
This is the thread I have enjoyed the most.
Yeild kwa? To whos advances?

naijadeyhia:

jou kwa ya o. Everyone to His own. My prayer is that your eyes of understanding be enlightened.

naijadeyhia:

This shows you do not understand the plan of God right from after Adam fell. Only a sacrifice in obedience would suffice and nothing else. Yes God can do anything he wants but in this case the requirement was set in stone. I suggest you do a bit of studying your bible and asking the holy spirit for insight.

free2ryhme:

Do catholics study bible

They just accept what the priest give them through the Lectionary during mass

try69:

Is It not better to accept what a priest tells me when I can always cross-check it with an already written doctrine than wake up one day to get a message from my worshipped mog who will tell me self service is not sin or one that will advice me to slap witches?

#youdon'tpaytothink #useyourbrains

free2ryhme:


did you cross check the worship of relics in the bible ?

did you cross check the bowing down to graven images in bible..?


Did you cross check the ordination of gay priests in the bible ...?


to whom a brain in given common sense is required

free2ryhme:

Do catholics study bible

They just accept what the priest give them through the Lectionary during mass

doclan: Finally... This is the thread I ve enjoyed the most.. Thanks to U all(NAIJADEYHIA, SUPERIOR1, MARIAGORETTI,TRY96,PHILFEARON,DEYMA, CHUKWU, FREE2RHYME.. Am sowi if I dnt list ur name, i dnt knw every1. Tanks to all contributors) U are all priceless proponent.. May God show us all the way and lets take time to read the bible with all simplicity and holy guidance.. God bless U all.

Maria-Goretti:
lol, another one?
What do you think is in the bulletin, uh?
The same way your pastors explain things to you from the scriptures is same way our priest explain to us.

Who bows down to graven images and which of the graven images?

Honey, whats the frustration all about? Just spill and we will sort it out amicably and not acrimoniously, ok?

doclan: Finally... This is the thread I ve enjoyed the most.. Thanks to U all(NAIJADEYHIA, SUPERIOR1, MARIAGORETTI,TRY96,PHILFEARON,DEYMA, CHUKWU, FREE2RHYME.. Am sowi if I dnt list ur name, i dnt knw every1. Tanks to all contributors) U are all priceless proponent.. May God show us all the way and lets take time to read the bible with all simplicity and holy guidance.. God bless U all.

Maria-Goretti:
if you had read the former post carefully, you will also find out that the person you just supported doesnt even comprehend facts written in short statements and that what we both have been arguing about is actually same thing...but you chose to be blind to it...na for your pocket o.

Ehe, what exactly do you think the Lectionary is made up of?? please answer if you have gone through one..

superior1:

And the pope issues you dogma and curse you if you don't believe it, no?

Maria-Goretti:
lol, another one?
What do you think is in the bulletin, uh?
The same way your pastors explain things to you from the scriptures is same way our priest explain to us.

Who bows down to graven images and which of the graven images?

Honey, whats the frustration all about? Just spill and we will sort it out amicably and not acrimoniously, ok?

Maria-Goretti:
lol, am sorry, can you rephrase that?

free2ryhme:


whay shld i care

...but i know what the bible ( undisputed word of God ) is made of


The bible was written in the early ages and was influenced by the Holy Spirit.

Maria-Goretti:
ah ah, nna calm down na...no be fight.

You are supposed to know nah...since you decided to badmouth the Catholics.

achi4u: The same way their (charged) pastors are vibrating with one of the modern gadgets like Apple® Tablets & their likes in the name of preaching is the same way catholic coppied their daily reading from the bible.

all this church rat self

superior1:

Lol, I am sure you do.

free2ryhme:


this girl sef stop blowing fuses


i did not badmouth catholics ooooo

i only stated the obvious