shockwave91:


"i can't say the same for men" Really
Ok now u've taken dis to a whole new direction. Ughh......c'mon

faith551:




Wat?, afraid dey catch u

Beamborla:

I speak for Africa and not for the western countries.

Funny enough, I'm not a feminist but I want an Africa where women are treated right.
Even here on NL, the prejudice is just too much

Beamborla:
Lolz...afraid is catching me o

bknight:


Okay. I earlier mentioned a concept called 'Womanism', a slight deviation and afro-centric feminism considering the black reality at home and diaspora.

faith551:


Hahahahahaha. U too much jare

francizy:




The love is there but you fail to see it brother. The love was born with the coming of the savior!

ronald4lif:
Mrschima you no dey taya. Give the feminism crap a rest.

I saw your earlier mention about the African woman being oppressed and physically abused by the men. This is true and violence against the woman or even kids should be condemned by every sane human. There should be stricter laws in place that serves as retribution to those who abused women, be it physically or sexually. The movement to eradicate violence against women has nothing to do with feminism. Learned and altruistic men themselves are denouncing and criticising it.

While I don't find it repulsive for the Nigerian woman to seek for gender equality, I find it hypocritical for these same women to expect a man to give them special treatments and privileges when they want equality. You go on a date with a girl, she would expect you to pick up her own bills. An average European woman would find it insulting and embarrassing for a man to pay for her meal on a date.

During festive period she expect the man to get her special gifts why the man get nothing in return or if he's fortunate enough he get a #250 pair of boxers. On the home front she expect the man to pay the rents, buy groceries and pay for kids tuition fees yet claim for equality?. Those who come to equity must do so with clean hands. The Nigerian feminism crusaders must take up equal financial responsibility in a relationship or marriage if they want to be taken seriously. Pronto!

ronald4lif:


It had better be so. I find it disturbing when people keep reminding others about the wrath of God. While growing up I could remember disobeying my parents and although they often flog me they never threatened me with some wrath. The wrath of God mantra doesn't portray Christianity in good light as God is not supposed to unleash striking thunder to someone, his children for that matter, just because they wronged him. He should rather welcome and embrace wrongdoers rather the Bible quotes that constantly reminds and threaten us of is wrath should we sin against him.

ronald4lif:
Mrschima you no dey taya. Give the feminism crap a rest.

I saw your earlier mention about the African woman being oppressed and physically abused by the men. This is true and violence against the woman or even kids should be condemned by every sane human. There should be stricter laws in place that serves as retribution to those who abused women, be it physically or sexually. The movement to eradicate violence against women has nothing to do with feminism. Learned and altruistic men themselves are denouncing and criticising it.

While I don't find it repulsive for the Nigerian woman to seek for gender equality, I find it hypocritical for these same women to expect a man to give them special treatments and privileges when they want equality. You go on a date with a girl, she would expect you to pick up her own bills. An average European woman would find it insulting and embarrassing for a man to pay for her meal on a date.

During festive period she expect the man to get her special gifts why the man get nothing in return or if he's fortunate enough he get a #250 pair of boxers. On the home front she expect the man to pay the rents, buy groceries and pay for kids tuition fees yet claim for equality?. Those who come to equity must do so with clean hands. The Nigerian feminism crusaders must take up equal financial responsibility in a relationship or marriage if they want to be taken seriously. Pronto!

blublahd:

I have a question though, at the end of the day God says men are superior to women and were created for the purpose to comfort man? Will you then accept your fate?

MrsChima:


First of all..God will not create human beings to serve each other but HIM.

It is also a contradiction to one of his 10 commandments....THOU SHALL NOT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BUT ME!

Why would a brilliant God contradict himself? He did however created women from the rib of man to be his ) wife(help meet .

Beamborla:

What exactly is their goal?

francizy:




You and Ronald no dey ever gree.. If this is how love is played, then it's mosdef interesting..

Na wa sha oh!

Kasiem2:
it all depends on what u see as isolation madam. Do u think that the man enjoy it as being the only one suffering just to see that one woman relaxing and doing gossip somewhere is made happy? Do u enjoy suffering? All the woman does is to know the latest ware in the market while the man who toils day and night hardly knows the day he bought his last boxers, yet u don't wanna give men some credit? Please, like I posited in the original post, the stage is always open for women to aspire for any height. Have u ever seen a great woman being denigrated here in our Africa?

MrsChima:


First of all..God will not create human beings to serve each other but HIM.

It is also a contradiction to one of his 10 commandments....THOU SHALL NOT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BUT ME!

Why would a brilliant God contradict himself? He did however created women from the rib of man to be his ) wife (help meet).

Why would a man cleaved into his wife as one but feels he is better than her because he appointed as the head?

blublahd:

never hinted anything about serving

no one said a man should play god to women. So why dont women preach a mantra of being a better help mate to men than equality(which should rather be based on individuality than gender), in some case supremacy?

because he is appointed as head.
Also you did not answer me Q. A yes or no will suffice

MrsChima:


Ronald is my babe. We are having pre-intimacy! We haven't got to the main entree yet!

MrsChima:


I don't need to answer what God will never ask. Didn't you just ask me question about women being created for men? Isn't that a service?

bknight:


Since I'm a guy, I'm uncertain how to communicate the theology, origin, ideologies and goals in a sisterly way
You can use en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womanism or indulge yourself with google for a wider read.

MrsChima:


This is the prime reason why I refuse to give Feminism a rest because according to you women are expecting men to shower with gifts and take care of them which is something Feminism are AGAINST!

Feminism encourage women to fend for themselves and contribute! We want women to be able to shower their man the same way a man will shower a woman! If a woman is unable to fend for herself and can't get jobs because society feels she needs to be at home then what do you expect?

If Feminism isn't necessary even in 2015 why is the hell do we have Africans still saying leave your father's home into your husband's home! Why do we have African men shouting because he has paid bride price that his wife is his property? Why do we have African men shouting a woman is damaged if she isn't married by 30! Why do we have African men toasting broke African girls then cry tears because she hasn't bought him any gifts to show her "love".

What's the fvck? She is broke!!!

That's like slapping a baby for crawling because she/he saw a toy!

blublahd:

they were indeed created for men, you also attest to that fact, and we also both agreed for help mate not service.

ronald4lif:


It's either you're acting ignorance here or you've lost touch with the craziness/scrounging of Nigerian ladies towards money and material gifts having been residing in the States for long. This is not about me or my opinion. The average Nigerian woman has adopted this mentality that a man should take up her responsibilities once they embark on a relationship with him. As soon as the relationship kick off they start inundating him with one demand to the other. If they can't fend and take up their own responsibilities then they don't have the right to call for equality and it amount to hypocrisy on their part should seek for it.



I'm aware that feminism encourages women to fend for themselves and contribute "equally" as the man in a relationship in the West but Nigerian women aren't living up to this. Just to say they should 'contribute' is not enough, it must be done equally otherwise they are shortchanging the man in the equality agenda of the relationship/marriage. Most Nigerian men are finding it difficult to fend for themselves just as the men but unlike the women the men keep engaging themselves, thinking out of the box and trying out new things to earn a living. The defense that the society encourages a woman to stay at home is weak. There are many women taken up top jobs in corporations daily, no one stopped them. Only the lazy ones and the ones who prefer to become housewives rather than get a job pick this line as a defense.



Although Nigeria still remains a patriarchal and male chauvinistic society which propels some men to think that they can lord their male supremacy over their wives just because of some bride price paid or whatever reasons, the women themselves aren't helping matters when they have consciously and subconsciously confines their role of a wife to breeding kids, doing out house chores whilst the man relaxes with his friends at a pub. When a woman start taking up equal financial responsibility in her home they would unavoidably earn respect from their man and the issue of subjugation might never surface.

I told you a few days ago that the average Nigerian woman doesn't spend on their man as 'equal' as they would expect from him not because they don't have the money but because they don't consider it worthy and a role of a woman to spend on a man. Why do you always support this immoral act of our women reaping off men in the name of a relationship with the frivolous excuse that they are broke but fail to condemn this glaring gold digging attitude they have adopted?. Nigerian women don't spend because they are broke, they are just tightfisted and self-centered.

MrsChima:


Sighs... women and men were created in likeness of God and Eve became Adam's wife after he saw Adam was alone and needed a wife.

The question you asked was reference to serving a man.

MrsChima:


Come on what? How many men you know that is working and taking care of home?

I will wait!

MrsChima:


You are the only one that said carrying cement equals to want to feel equal!

It is funny how you are calling your own analogy horsesh1t.

blublahd:

do not misquote the bible, yes we were alone and needed a companion for the sole purpose for which your kind was created.

I have corrected you on that assumption, Yet you have refused to answer my question. Why are you females not preaching the mantra of an help mate, as oppose to contention which you call feminism?

shockwave91:

yea. The notion of female equality is HORSESH*T. Females have always been equal. They just had specific "roles" they chose to play in various centuries of socities. Women should be seen 1st & foremost as human beings & not some wild beasts if we are to understand what we really mean by this "equality".

Beamborla:


'the goal of a Womanist should be to promote the issues affecting not just Black women, but black men and other groups that have been subjected to discrimination or impotence'

#still reading #