DeepSight:


You don't need to scan the universe of atheists. By definition, an atheist does not believe in god or gods. Therefore by definition, there cannot be any atheist who believes in God or gods. Such a person is not an atheist. It would be a logical contradiction exactly the same as the existence of a square circle.

So that closes that, and I can thus come to the reason I raised the question. I raised it to show that the response of weah96 to the OP is completely illogical and an even impossible response to make. He is asked why he does not believe in God and he says "which god"? This would not be necessary to the question because as an atheist being asked that question, the clear assumption is that he does not believe in all and any possible God or gods!

Therefore there is no need for him to begin to look at each of the thousands of gods in antiquity in order to resolve the question: he should simply give reasons why he rejects the existence of all gods.

Finally, on a side note, even if he refuses to do that, perhaps seeking to contend that he may have different reasons for the rejection of the existence of each god in history (which is implausible), the truth is that he is still being pedantic because the OP's question is clear that he is referring to that God - which various tribes call differently and ascribe different qualities to, but have one quality at at least as a common denominator: to wit: the creator supreme being in all existence.

plaetton:

Lol @creator supreme.
An an assumption clearly not in evidence.

For the millionth time, who do you suppose created the Creator supreme?

dalaman:


Deva in Buddhism is not a God. From wikipedia.

A deva (देव Sanskrit and Pāli) in Buddhism is one of many different types of non-human beings who share the characteristics of being more powerful, longer-lived, and, in general, much happier than humans, although none of them are worthy of worship.

If you read further you will see where they clearly say that Devas are not gods. It is clearly written there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Buddhism)

As for the second question, you have not answered me anywhere. Why are you an atheist since you insist that atheist must disbelieve in all Gods. Why are you then an atheist?

plaetton:
@Deepsight

Why is it so much easier to speak about a supreme self-existent mystery being than supreme self-existent natural processes that beget all things in the universe?

Lets be honest.
Could it be just mental laziness?

FOLYKAZE:

I dont think you are an atheist like johnydon22, dalaman and weah96, you are not just too good with some concept and idea of God. Atheism negates all god idea but you are here believing Ra should be worship because it is god. I think w need to look beyond idea and concept. All these God were just expression of ancient men who triess to explain the natural world

FOLYKAZE:


Devas is not God? Are you serious at all?

Oga because an deity is not a god in the monotheitic concept or sense does not mean it is not God/deity.

Devas is a Sanskrit term meaning god, deity, divinity or celestial being. In Buddhism, devas are gods who live in the various realms of heaven as rewards for their previous good deeds, but they are still subject to rebirth. http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/d/devas.html

Weah96:


The universe created itself through its mother nature and father time.

FOLYKAZE:


Devas is not God? Are you serious at all?

Oga because an deity is not a god in the monotheitic concept or sense does not mean it is not God/deity.

Devas is a Sanskrit term meaning god, deity, divinity or celestial being. In Buddhism, devas are gods who live in the various realms of heaven as rewards for their previous good deeds, but they are still subject to rebirth. http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/d/devas.html

And you have the got to say they are not worshipping? What then is the essense of home shrine and temple? http://www.english.fgs2.ca/?q=why-buddhists-bow-pray-or-worship-buddha-statue-if-buddhism-does-not-believe-creationism

What is the dude in this picture below doing?



Is he eating or praying/worshipping?

And to the other question, I have answered you here https://www.nairaland.com/2486202/let-atheist-answer/3#36505086 and here https://www.nairaland.com/2486202/let-atheist-answer/3#36507691

Niggga I dont have your time

johnydon22:
I think you are practically the confused one here, swimming in your own self induced confusion.

First you mistake Buddhist spiritualism to mean theism, then again mistake pantheism to mean theism also, how will you even know what atheism is since you do not even grasp the concept of theism.

Refering the Sun as a God is not pantheism but rather theism and this belief that the sun is divine has to do with BELIEF. i that lack BELIEF that the divinity you claim on that particular thing simply will refer to it as the sun and nothing more.

Pantheism simply is recognizing the whole universe in one entirety as God, I simply choose to refer to it as the universe and not a deity.

theism deals with belief in both assumed personal and deified objects (which in the real sense represents the actual imaginative concept)

You need to wrap your head around these before you can hope to even understand what you hastily rush in to discuss

dalaman:


I am not a Buddhist so I wont dwell on what I don't know. The Wikipedia entry says Devas are not Gods. As for the second question you still haven't answered anything. You just played with words. Why are you an atheist since you insist that atheist disbelieve in all Gods?

johnydon22:
Always at the fore front of laying baseless claims, Buddhists do not worship or term Devas Gods

A deva (देव Sanskrit and Pāli) in Buddhism is one of many different types of non-human beings who share the characteristics of being more powerful, longer-lived, and, in general, much happier than humans, [size=16]]although none of them are worthy of worship.[/size]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Buddhism)

Stop confusing yourself by changing words to mean what you want

johnydon22:
Disbelief only occur where there is belief.

The gallery of a theater is called God (noun) this is not a belief just a lingual expression. . .the guy literally means you should disbelieve the gallery of a theater is not God.. How can you disbelieve what is not a belief but just a lingual expression?. .

Atheism deals simply with BELIEF... it only negate belief in deities or personal God (deities) concepts.

e.g: I believe the sun is God (deity) ... "I don't believe you, it's just the sun"

e.g2: I believe there is a god (deity) who created the universe and is outside the universe, needs human prayers and sacrifice and will punish you and give some a golden mansion..

"I don't believe you, prove it"

patheism: The universe is God....

"Good for you but it is just the universe to me"... its as simple as it gets

FOLYKAZE:


Simply tell us you believe in Mother Nature. Mind you, she is a goddess and thus exist.

FOLYKAZE:


Then the Universe is God.

Therefore it exist.

Mother Nature is God. It exist

FOLYKAZE:


Where did I say Ra is a pantheistic God?

Theism is a broad term which extention pantheism is part of. I dont know where I confused this together.

Buddhism spritualism is not theism? Do you mean the western buddhism or the one practise by those in Asia?

Some guys mehn

Buddhism /ˈbudɪzəm/ [1][2] is a[size=20] nontheisitc religion[/size] [note 1][3] or philosophy
( Sanskrit : dharma; Pali : dhamma) that encompasses a variety of traditions ,
beliefs and spiritual practices largely based on teachings attributed to
Gautama Buddha, commonly known as the Buddha ("the awakened one".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

Like i told you earlier, you don't even know what theism means...Until you get to know you will never fully grasp that which you wish to argue about.....

let me hear you say that Buddhism is theistic again!

PastorAIO:


e squeeze mi! Perhaps I could help.

I think that maybe we should make a distinction between God, the office, and God, the personality.

An office may bear certain functions that can be fulfilled by various persons. Many people may be president of US, but there is only one presidency of US.

The OP, maybe, I don't know, may be asking if there is such an office as God that presumably is responsibly for such functions as creating and maintaining the universe. The question of who fills this office, whether amadioha, sango or Jehovah is not pertinent right now.

Weah96 may believe that such an office as 'God' exists but disbelieve that it is filled by any such beings as Jehovah, Allah etc.

Abeg, Am I right?

Weah96:


I believe in certain Gods, and have serious reservations about the rest.

Example, I've been to an Outkast concert, I've had my hair cut in barbershop with Big Boi seated in the next chair, I have watched their videos.

When I say that I don't believe in God, I am under the impression that the OP if referring to the Abrahamic ones.

Weah96:


When I say that I don't believe in God, I am under the impression that the OP if referring to the Abrahamic ones.

Weah96:


We've been here before. You know EXACTLY what my beliefs are, as far as Gods are concerned.

FOLYKAZE:


Atheism is disbelieve in God/gods. This in particular mean disbelieve in ALL gods and not just Jehovah and Allah only. Christians believe in Jehovah but disbelieve in Allah and every other God that exist in other religion and culture. Therefore atheists are expected to disbelieve in all these God.

Atheism is a greek word a + theos which mean No God. God there is not just Allah or Jehovah though they make it up but all Gods.

http://godisimaginary.com/i28.htm


So the OP asked a simple question, why do you think God does not exist? So I dont expect weah69 to peg the question for Jehovah or Allah.

FOLYKAZE:


Dont be foolish Mr.

Do some research far beyond wikipedia.

Devas in Sanskrit is देव which mean God https://translate.google.com/m?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&ie=UTF-8&prev=_m&q=%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B5

Hahahaha as usual..

Sanskrit remember is a Hindu liturgical language and Hinduism is a theistic religion..

We are discussing the BUDDHIST concept of Deva which they regard as merely non-humans that are not worthy of worship.

In your usual hasty sterotypes you didn't bother to Check the etymology of the word...
"Deva is a Sanskrit word found in Vedic literature of 2nd millennium BCE. Monier Williams translates it as "heavenly, divine, terrestial things of high excellence, exalted, shining ones".[1][9] The concept [size=20]also [/size] is used to refer to deity, god."https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Hinduism)#Etymology

Now we can see that the word "Deva" is used both to refer to heavenly, exalted etc things and Also used differently to refer to a deity..

Can you now calm down and agree Deva in Buddhism is not GOD but simply a non-human entity ...

dalaman:


I am not a Buddhist so I wont dwell on what I don't know. The Wikipedia entry says Devas are not Gods.

dalaman:
As for the second question you still haven't answered anything. You just played with words. Why are you an atheist since you insist that atheist disbelieve in all Gods?

Weah96:


I believe in certain Gods, and have serious reservations about the rest.

Example, I've been to an Outkast concert, I've had my hair cut in barbershop with Big Boi seated in the next chair, I have watched their videos.

When I say that I don't believe in God, I am under the impression that the OP if referring to the Abrahamic ones.

FOLYKAZE:


how many times do I need to express myself to make you understand me?

Let me employ the vegetarian theory again.
[size=18pt]When a vegetarian is asked reason why he refused to eat meat, he doesnt ask in reply which particular meat because as a vegetarian, he does not eat ALL meat.[/size]

meat
mēt/Submit
noun
noun: meat; plural noun: meats
1.
the flesh of an animal (especially a mammal) as food.
"pieces of meat"
synonyms: flesh, animal flesh
"you need to cut down on your consumption of meat"
the flesh of a person's body.
"this'll put meat on your bones!"
synonyms: flesh, animal flesh
"you need to cut down on your consumption of meat"
NORTH AMERICAN
[size=19pt]the edible part of fruits or nuts.[/size]
the essence or chief part of something.
"he did the meat of the climb on the first day"
synonyms: substance, pith, marrow, heart, kernel, core, nucleus, nub, essence, essentials, gist, fundamentals, basics; informalnitty-gritty
"the meat of the matter"
2.
archaic
[size=19pt]food of any kind.
[/size]synonyms: food, nourishment, sustenance, provisions, rations, fare, foodstuff(s), provender, daily bread; More
informalgrub, eats, chow, nosh;
formalcomestibles;
datedvictuals;
literaryviands
"meat and drink"

johnydon22:
No pantheism is not an extension of theism...Pantheism a distinct and drastically different concept in entirety. . this is where your confusion stems.

If you had asserted deism is an extension of theism, nobody would have disputed that...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism

like i told you before, you have to first go wrap your head around what both actually means before rushing in to discuss them.
Buddhism /ˈbudɪzəm/ [1][2] is a[size=20] nontheisitc religion[/size] [note 1][3] or philosophy
( Sanskrit : dharma; Pali : dhamma) that encompasses a variety of traditions ,
beliefs and spiritual practices largely based on teachings attributed to
Gautama Buddha, commonly known as the Buddha ("the awakened one".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism

Like i told you earlier, you don't even know what theism means...Until you get to know you will never fully grasp that which you wish to argue about.....

let me hear you say that Buddhism is theistic again!

johnydon22:
Hahahaha as usual..

Sanskrit remember is a Hindu liturgical language and Hinduism is a theistic religion..

We are discussing the BUDDHIST concept of Deva which they regard as merely non-humans that are not worthy of worship.

In your usual hasty sterotypes you didn't bother to Check the etymology of the word...
"Deva is a Sanskrit word found in Vedic literature of 2nd millennium BCE. Monier Williams translates it as "heavenly, divine, terrestial things of high excellence, exalted, shining ones".[1][9] The concept [size=20]also [/size] is used to refer to deity, god."https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Hinduism)#Etymology

Now we can see that the word "Deva" is used both to refer to heavenly, exalted etc things and Also used differently to refer to a deity..

Can you now calm down and agree Deva in Buddhism is not GOD but simply a non-human entity ...

basille:
Then don't you think that Mother nature and time are gods?

Weah96:


Atheism is the dismissal of all forms of conventional theism. Unconventional Gods like Cristiano Ronaldo, Lebron James, and myself are not included.

If you feel like calling the Aso Rock building by the moniker God, then after you clarify the attributes and the benefits you get from the building, I might join your cult group.

FOLYKAZE:


Oga Ade stop relying on Western fallacy.

Read and read Mr http://www.existentialbuddhist.com/2011/05/is-buddhism-non-theistic/

another is here

http://www.religioustolerance.org/buddhism8.htm

I dont have the time so I cant copy and paste here.

Buddhism is theistic religion as practised by those in Asia

Weah96:


I don't understand what you stand to gain from your incessant pedantry. A reasonable person asks for clarification once, receives it, and moves you. You now know what I mean, why are you obsessed with the old semantics business? This is turning out to be your signature mating ritual of yours or something, and even though it is entertaining, it sometimes can also be downright annoying.

You have just checkmated yourself, and I hope that you will present another contribution to the arena. Here's your rebuttal:





There is no such thing as a vegetarian because everyone eats meat. Just as there is no such thing as an atheist... because we all believe in God.

Do you disbelieve in the meat of a pawpaw?

FOLYKAZE:


Even from the link, Deva-buddhism is a word from Sanskrit. This is what is there "A deva (देव Sanskrit and Pāli)".

So maybe you need to put your thinking cap on when arguing.

A simple translation of देव to english will give you God.