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Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Aude(f): 8:18pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
amicable09: You are welcome. Remember that I am not a recruiter nor am I in HR. I am just an employee who has come to the realization that it is better to have HR on your side rather than against you. |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:18pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
raayah: Exactly, A million likes for you |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Nobody: 8:24pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Nihilist: Bros re u a recruiter? If u are let me send my CV..that's the essence of it all |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:26pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
yorex2011: Don't misunderstand me. I am an international recruiter meaning my clients are 90% of the times from other countries. I met my Nigerian clients through foreign partners. I am forced to compare grads from India, Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana, Canada, USA, The Philippines etc almost everyday. No employer cares if you schooled in a 3rd world country. I pointed these out so we all can take note and work on where we are wanting. Not to criticize. |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:31pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Kx:smh, how do you know the job description more than the staff |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by amicable09(f): 8:32pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Aude: Hahahahaha... Sure. Nobody wants them to be against the fellow, we just don't want them having an attitude, that's all. After all, the HR was once a job seeker too, so, I see no reason for such behaviour. Recently, I went for an interview and the lady who interviewed me made the environment so conducive! I wasn't in any way tensed and we flowed very well. Right there and then, I knew I had won her heart but no, I didn't take up the offer because of some reasons. One of which was the bond I was going to sign, didn't quite augur well with my plans. Then, at another interview the interviewer acted as though she had a personal issue, straight faced and she dished out her questions with such seriousness as though we were in a fight . Mmmh, that's why sometimes I just get upset with some of these HR guys... Not with you sha |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Nihilist: 8:32pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
I think this is where a lot of people get it wrong. Your CV is a sales document. It's a flyer. It's an advert. It's a flipping documentary. It should list exactly what skills you have to offer as it is relevant to the employer. Word processing is not a skill. It is a necessity. You need to be able to communicate within the corporate environment so you you need to be able to use Microsoft office. It is NOT a skill. You wouldn't write down fluency in English as skill in Nigeria, would you? Look at the job description and write down the skills you think are required in reasonable detail. That's the key element of a great CV 2 Likes |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Nihilist: 8:33pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Bennyzino: I'm not a recruiter. |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:36pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
beyondwalls:My bro/sis, I can't tell you for sure what caused it. Connection, God Fathers, chance etc Be rest assured that yours will come to you |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:36pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
OfficialIYANU:Exactly |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:37pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Curvinus: Must you comment? |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:38pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
prettyboi1: Thanks |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:39pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
400billionman: Wrong, but I'm pointing out to the CV packaging as what will get their foot in the door |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:40pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
oc2fish:All you have said is true. The emboldened is disheartening. |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:41pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
skeema:jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:42pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
sirmmykay:ok |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:46pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
InvertedHammer: Thanks |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by lynn360: 8:47pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
yorex2011: Well said sir, recruiters have this annoying way of belittling Nigerian students with this notion of been unemployable but the fact still remains our poor educational system has caused more damage. Give Nigerian students the same learning facilities given to these expatriates and we'll record a tremendous success nationwide. We have very brilliant people here in Nigeria whose invention can shake the world if exposed to modern technology and not some archaic way of learning. I have not come to lay blames, we need solutions and not these constant criticisms Nigerian graduates face each day not just a surface solution but a grassroot solution which requires restructuring of our educational system. God bless the good of Nigeria and reward their efforts... |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 8:47pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
faites: Im focusing on IT placements for now but will keep you in mind. |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by butanep(m): 8:51pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Aude: please i sent you a PM. I want to have a chat with you. Thanks |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Abdujapha(m): 8:55pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
[quote author=Gold45 post=39508347]As an international Recruiter, I have noticed some things that hinder my recruitment in Nigeria, it is heart breaking when someone comes to me and says I'm relocating to the USA or Canada or wherever, what placement can you get for me and just by chatting with the person, I know that it will have to be a menial job despite the diplomas and degrees. There is a reason why I have Recruited over 50 expatriates from some unimaginable countries into Nigeria where they got perks like: 3 bedroom furnished apartment in the Lekki area a few bus stops away from the company 2 domestic staffs to do the cleaning, cooking and driving. Comprehensive health insurance Approx. 10M annual salary 28 working days paid vacation 3 working days paid leave Approx 3M in other allowances Return annual paid tickets to their home country annually In some cases a lesser paying job for the spouse is guaranteed. I have facilitated the purchase of some Multi Million houses which Companies bought for their expatriate staffs. The minimum being 700M for 20 units of 3 bedroom flats, and some up to 2 Billion just for these expatriates. You must be thinking why, below are some of the reasons in my opinion. 1. Education Our universities don't help matters, they split one course into 3 units for students to study and graduate and use 20 years old techniques / syllabus to teach. As a result, fresh Nigerian graduates and even West African graduates can not stand fresh graduates from other parts of the world until they have experience or go for more classes. I begin to ask, what is the craze to get admission and graduate for? 2. Lack of seriousness on the part of the students As if that isnt enough, many of their results were bought in the sense that in a new setting, they can't defend this result. A Bsc Econs holder couldn't pass an exam to place her in a 200level equivalent in the USA. While in school, a lot of them joined cults and turned to private prostitutes just to get the good grades. News Flash!!! Recruiters are fully aware and can't be deceived. 3. Inability to speak good English What breaks my heart now is that many of them can't speak good English. They are well educated in the best schools but nothing to show for it. If that cert. goes missing today, and they have the opportunity to write another exam to receive a new result, 80% won't pass. Yes, English isn't our mother tongue but when you want a job in a company where English language is spoken, you have to speak English too. Your command of English is highly important. It can speak a lot about you even before you present your certs. 4. Greed Now, once in a while, I see a graduate who has ticked all the wrong boxes still forming "I know my worth and wont settle for less". I'll simply tell you to call me next week as that's when I'll be recruiting for the big fishes and that will be the end. The bad part of these incompetence is that you never know you have them. Hence, there's nothing to lower those over inflated egos. 5. Nonchalant attitude Some feel once they have gotten their certs esp. the 1st class and 2nd class upper, they have tried abeg. Cut them some slack, give them a break. But they don't understand that its just the beginning. You must seek more exposure by all means. Keep reading, keep find ways to polish your trophy, keep learning from those who are there. For example; I can say, 90% of graduates, cant write a standard cover letter, 85% cant write a standard Resume / CV. My mum looked at an applicants cv one day, laughed and said, My CV was as naive as this when I applied for my first job. Meaning, that CV was in vogue in the 1970's!!! I'll talk more on the CV later. 6. Unrealistic desires Okay, we all know you didn't spend years in the Uni for nothing. You didn't go to Boko Haram infested areas during your service for nothing etc. But baby, its time to wake up! Life isn't rosy anymore. There is tight competition out there. There are over 2000 people better than you graduating every year. The best tool you have when job hunting is experience. I daresay experience is more valuable than degrees in some cases. Start where you are as long as i can recharge your phone, transport you to and from work and pay your basic bills, it will be worth it. Learn from Dami: Dami (not real name) ticked 3 wrong boxes and due to the strict requirement, could never see the light of the job. What did Dami do? He wrote a new application letter volunteering to work for free only asking to be allowed to benefit from the Company's transport as he lives far. 2 years later, Dami got a job in that company as an Assistant Mgr. 7. Lack of Packaging You are a brand, you wish to be the face of a company, how can you sell the company in a good image if you can't sell yourself? Start with your CV and cover letter. I don't care where you are from unless the job specifically asked for candidates from a particular region. telling me you have an experience as a waiter in a 7* hotel when applying for the post of a teacher will make me shove your resume in the bin. Indicate all that apply and leave out the unnecessary details. I skim through 80 - 100 Cv's in 1hr or more. Meaning at a glance, I want to see what I want shouting back at me in your resume. Keep it straight to the point and Brief. Don't lie! Be creative, learn new ways to write a cv. Always ask someone who likes you to proof read for you. Always run a spell check. Don't have one CV. I have more than 8. Always create a new CV to fit the new job. Indicate in the section for skills, all your skills which was listed as a requirement. 8. Failing to test all spirits Apply to all positions you feel you are qualified for. Secret: You don't need to have it all. Hr Managers are there to brush you up! Hi, Please can I send you my resume for your review? Thanks in anticipation |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by butanep(m): 9:00pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Gold45: I will like to have a personal chat with you. How can i reach you please? |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:04pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
jazinogold:jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:05pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
ProfJournalism: jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Aude(f): 9:05pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
butanep: I responded so you can email me now. |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:06pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
onibooro: There is a reason why you see many CVs as bad as one can imagine |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:06pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
woodcook:I hope you understand I fovus on the international job market? jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:07pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Liadi2:Please mail it to me. jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:08pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Bennyzino: Pls mail your cv to jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:09pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Aude: Thanks for covering up for me. I sense experience in your replies. Are you a HR? Are you open to networking? |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Gold45(f): 9:09pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
kunlegboye:jroysee@gmail.com |
Re: Pains Of A Recruiter / HR Mgr by Aude(f): 9:16pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
Gold45: No I am not in HR. I was once unemployed and it took a lot of soul searching, observing people and being open to criticisms to get me to where I am today. I really do like your posts and I am happy that you didn't feel I was encroaching on your territory. I am certainly open to networking and I am willing to pass on my experiences and advice to anyone who is willing to listen. I don't consider myself a pro but I think I have something to bring to the table. |
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