Eronmosele:

I speak with Bashsani because unlike most others of his lot, he seems to answer with some decorum. Otherwise I don't usually waste my time for these kind of things. There is an old and new testament. That's what I know. Complement? Your book contradicts the new testament in many ways you should know. Jesus was very clear about whom He would be sending after Him. It's definitely not your prophet because he failed the basic test, he is dead and buried. The Spirit of God whom Jesus promised to send after Him has been with us since the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts. Your final testament does not exist. The new testament is complete as it is. When Jesus died on the cross according to the will of Almighty God He said "it is finished!" as He breathed His last. Of course all these are edited out of your book and you are told again that the Bible we have today is not original. You forget that we still have the original ancient texts and manuscripts with us delicately preserved. And about popularity of the books, I will leave you to statistics and Google. The Koran does not even come close to the Bible in terms of popularity, best selling and distribution statistics. This is not disputable please check your statistics very well as this is a well known fact. When you say things like this it negatively affects the credibility of the other statements you have made.

Eronmosele:

I speak with Bashsani because unlike most others of his lot, he seems to answer with some decorum. Otherwise I don't usually waste my time for these kind of things. There is an old and new testament. That's what I know. Complement? Your book contradicts the new testament in many ways you should know. Jesus was very clear about whom He would be sending after Him. It's definitely not your prophet because he failed the basic test, he is dead and buried. The Spirit of God whom Jesus promised to send after Him has been with us since the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts. Your final testament does not exist. The new testament is complete as it is. When Jesus died on the cross according to the will of Almighty God He said "it is finished!" as He breathed His last. Of course all these are edited out of your book and you are told again that the Bible we have today is not original. You forget that we still have the original ancient texts and manuscripts with us delicately preserved. And about popularity of the books, I will leave you to statistics and Google. The Koran does not even come close to the Bible in terms of popularity, best selling and distribution statistics. This is not disputable please check your statistics very well as this is a well known fact. ^{When you say things like this it negatively affects the credibility of the other statements you have made.}

bashsani:
you are joking there is already an on going debate on the authenticity of the bible a lot of u are out of idea resorting to u only understand thru the holy spirit when the holy spirit cud not inspire a single report of the bible. I don't argue on this lane pls join the debate it's on the fp

bashsani:
u knw nothing abt the Quran, all u do is misquote thw Quran here is verse in the Quran that condem killing of innocent soul quran 5:32 and pls check ur verses b4 u st3t spwewing trash. Nobody quoted u because nobody really hav ur time but u knw nothing abt Islam

Blackfire:


wicked girl.
Anytime u are coming back to Nigeria, let me know so i can arrange a personal security for u.

Wicked, wicked , wicked girl.
*laughs uncontrollably*

bashsani:
let me also ask u this question would u let the man u caught on ur wife in ur house go just like that? Let's assume u did not take the law in ur hands u now reported to the nearest police station only for the DPO to open his bible and tell just let him and don't forget to forgive ur wife. How would u feel? And to the fornicator do think him knowing this will let ut wife b? The next time u catch what will u do?

parisbookaddict:


salam

you mean this verse
From Qu'ran 5:32, “...If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew
the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved
the life of the whole people.”

i have read that passage many times before
let me quote the Fuller context which says;


Qu'ran 5:32-34, "On that account: Therefore we prescribed for the
Children of Israel that who so slays a soul not to retaliate for a soul
slain, nor for corruption done in the land, shall be as if he had slain
mankind altogether; and who so gives life to a soul, shall be as if he has
given life to mankind altogether. Our Messengers have already come to
them with the clear signs; then many of them thereafter commit
excesses in the earth.
This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His
Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they
shall be SLAUGHTERED, or CRUCIFIED, or their hands and feet shall
alternately be STRUCK OFF; or they shall be banished from the land.
That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come
awaits them a mighty chastisement,
except for such as repent, before you have power over them. So know
you that God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate."



*** Notice how you can slay a person if the person spreads corruption in
the land or as some translations call it, "mischief". This "corruption in
the land" or "mischief" can mean anything such as Preaching the
Gospel of Christ, making Muslims uncomfortable by questioning the
Qu'ran or Muhammed, drawing Mohammed, supporting western education
etc This has therefore been an excused used by Jihadists like
BokoHaram, ISIS, Hamas, hezbollah, Al shabba, Alqueda etc to murder,
kill and destroy.

notice also
1 - It explicitly states that this was a commandment to the Children of
Israel, i.e. the Jews! This is not a commandment to all people, and it
certainly should not be misused as if this is Allah's command to
Muhammad's people.
2 - Even if this were a command to the Muslims, there's still an escape
clause: "unless it be for murder or spreading mischief in the land." If
someone is "spreading mischief", he can still be killed. Now let's think
for a moment. The would-be Times Square bomber considers Americans
to be spreading mischief in Palestine and around the world (practically
all Muslims I know think this, even the ones who are American citizens).
Accordingly, even if this verse were to apply to someone like Faisal
Shahzad, he would still be justified in his slaughter.

clefstone:
well, it's difficult to know how one would react in such an hypothetical situation if one has not been in it in the first place. However, I know of situations where men have caught their wives in the act and didn't kill anyone. Some even forgive their wife and continue with the marraige. Difficult but time heals all wounds. Forgiveness is a Godly virtue and since we sin against God and ask for mercy, it is only right we forgive those who sin against us

bashsani:
yea this one of the two I replied and ur own definition of mischief is appalling, islam is a complete religion with policies guiding it's practicality there each mischief has its own punishment and to tell you this is only applicable in islamic owned states and it's inhabitants. Ans don't quote any action of a muslim we debate strictly on the teachings of the two religion cos I'm not ready to start criticizing Christianity with the action of some fake pastors and again there is an on going topic on fp abt the authenticity of the bible I searched for but u re no whr to b found. I will like to see ur defence and again this thread is already dead I will like to challenge u on a fresh one will look forward to that.these are my conditions. BTW I don't why u re adopting the islamic way of greeting stay blessed

Eronmosele:

Do I sound like a joke to you? Do you know who the Holy Spirit is? You speak of what you know nothing of and yet with such arrogance. I have nothing more to say to you. I have indeed said all I should. If someone said he found controversies in the Bible, get a bible and read it yourself see the context and applications and then you will see clearly. I have followed a lot of those so called controversies and it's a shame. The length people go to see what is not there. Read for yourself. You are free to comment on but on my final note I still want to emphasize, if all that Parisbookaddict wrote about your prophet as recorded in the Koran is true, then if you are a decent human being, you would agree with me that your prophet is not worthy of emulation. The world would be such a terrible place with more like him. God has blessed me with children. God forbid that any of my son's wives be sexually attractive to me! God forbid! God forbid that I would look upon a child with sexual intent! Oh! God forbid!! That kind of insanity uncommon even in the animal kingdom. God forbid! You should even be ashamed of yourself. If I must then I will follow that Prophet of whom is recorded no sin. I am proud of the kind of life Jesus lived.

parisbookaddict:


which one of two relied??
i dont remember ever discussing with u on nairaland before.

i posted that verse to show you how violent it is and how the message ..If anyone slays a person, it would be as if he slew
the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.” was a message for the jews.. its actually in the jewish Talmud which mohammed copied..

i assume you are over 20 years of age, start to reason and see how evil islamic teachings is..

by the way i did NOT adopt islamic way of greeting
its actually an Arabic word which means peace and not islamic, arabic language existed far before islam came..i greet my igbo friends kedu nwanee, yoruba bawo ni oremi and hausa yaya dey mutiminna..

i greet people with words they identify with..so calm down on your adpotion theory..

if you want a debate create a thread and mention me..

Eronmosele:

He actually did. Feel free go ahead and join the others who have read and are doing according as they have read. There are many groups, all Islamic in origin you can pick from. Go ahead, rape, kill, maim in God's name.

Eronmosele:

I speak with Bashsani because unlike most others of his lot, he seems to answer with some decorum. Otherwise I don't usually waste my time for these kind of things. There is an old and new testament. That's what I know. Complement? Your book contradicts the new testament in many ways you should know. Jesus was very clear about whom He would be sending after Him. It's definitely not your prophet because he failed the basic test, he is dead and buried. The Spirit of God whom Jesus promised to send after Him has been with us since the day of Pentecost in the book of Acts. Your final testament does not exist. The new testament is complete as it is. When Jesus died on the cross according to the will of Almighty God He said "it is finished!" as He breathed His last. Of course all these are edited out of your book and you are told again that the Bible we have today is not original. You forget that we still have the original ancient texts and manuscripts with us delicately preserved. And about popularity of the books, I will leave you to statistics and Google. The Koran does not even come close to the Bible in terms of popularity, best selling and distribution statistics. This is not disputable please check your statistics very well as this is a well known fact. When you say things like this it negatively affects the credibility of the other statements you have made.

parisbookaddict:


lol.. the truth makes muslims angry
i remember when i started posting on islam as ifeann, they called me all sorts of names from enemy of islam, jewish agent to prostitute eg tartar9 empire mrola, rilwan yazach, etc. it was so sad to see grown muslim men throw insults thinking it will make me fear posting more infotrmation on mohammed... they even created threads to discuss ifeann on the islamic section.. some of the muslims have given up, am sure some are reconsidering islam, every ex muslim is one less potential jihadist

parisbookaddict:


allah is a figment of a 7th century Arab pedophile's and warmongers imagination. If u truly believe "he" exists then u approve that he claimed over 2000 lives on the last haji and allowed a crane fall on one of islams most "holy" or rather unholy Grand mosques killing over 100 people.

matiuni:


Na lie.How was islam spread in Northern and south westerrn Nigeria particularly Ilorin,ogbomoso and oyo North.How can somebody be denying what were well documented.From mecca to the the rest of the middle east,Turkey and even Jerusalem.Islam was spread with swords and arrows

Islam was spread to many parts of Nigeria through trade, in fact we've had Yoruba Muslims 100s of years before Sheikh Uthman Ibn Foodee(Dan fodio).

Many Turks converted to Islam, and then took control of other parts of modern day Turkey. The introduced many policies which then led many to convert to Islam.

Umar I took control in a bloodless manner, no one died from both sides. People converted to Islam due to the kindness of Muslim rulers, are you willing to challenge this fact?!

Empiree:
Just give it one more try. But overall, you tried cus many failed on FB. You are so closed to getting it right.

Here is your semester exam again

OLUJOSHINS:



the answer is 1