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goodnessme1:
News broke yesterday of the
killing of an ESN commander
Ikonso and "six others". But
Beneath the media sensation
which expectedly followed lies the question of competence of
Nigeria armed forces.

It was initially reported that
the ESN commander and six of his men were killed in an ESN base during a raid by the police, with the police
incurring no loss. This would
have been a fair win from the
police to me.

But later it was learnt that it
was actually a combined special force operation from
Army, police , DSS, Irt from
Abuja that lead the ambush
operation in which only two
ESN men were killed and
several security operatives including police and army
were killed by few ESN men.
The army initially denied
casualty but has now admitted it lost four men . Considering the low pedigree of our armed forces when it comes to transparency, the figures could be close to ten men as claimed by people on ground, not including security officers killed during reprisals yesterday.
The worrying part
is that the military hierarchy
are celebrating when actually
they incurred more loss.
Note these were almost the
best guys drawn from our security agents. Note also that the killed guy has been
contacted by the Governor to
head the SE vigilante ebubeagu, which made his
identity vulnerable to attack. If the prevailing celebration
mood of our military hierarchy truly reflect their mindset despite loosing more men and risk of heavy escalation, it means they are fighting a war in which army will most likely be overwhelmed in the
nearest future.



By: Simon K. Williams.
Williams is a strong believer in One Nigeria and writes from Lagos.



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If you know that empires fall and empires rise, you would not be a believer of one nigeria, knowing that injustice as a fuel for sustaining her engines will run out one day.

Web2Safe1:
With everything happening, with every gunshots drop, with all war fought may God / Allah save the country home Nigeria.

I could remember how good Nigeria was, everyone has strength to talk and laugh but may nothing separate us, all we need is understanding ourselves, make the God we serve as part of the blood that run through us.

A short prayer for the faithful

It is a very sad lose, we lost a lot in that good man.

sweetshisha:




The sooner you understand that Kanu isn't interested in Biafra as a nation the better for you guys.... He is just milking you guys

If Seccession is to happen Ibo representative in Government are to raise such motion not Buhari ,Fulani Herdsmen, Afonja... Just as when Nigeria wanted independence Pa Ehnahoro was the one who raised the motion against ruthless British Government

If Nigeria would have Sovereign National conference only Ibo elites and political actors would get invited to represent Ibo interest


.

Why should we wait on or consult our representatives? Did any elected members by us followed the military to concoct that devilish 1999 constitution? You don't expect anyone to obey an illegality.

sweetshisha:




The sooner you understand that Kanu isn't interested in Biafra as a nation the better for you guys.... He is just milking you guys

If Seccession is to happen Ibo representative in Government are to raise such motion not Buhari ,Fulani Herdsmen, Afonja... Just as when Nigeria wanted independence Pa Ehnahoro was the one who raised the motion against ruthless British Government

If Nigeria would have Sovereign National conference only Ibo elites and political actors would get invited to represent Ibo interest


.

Why should we wait on or consult our representatives? Did any elected members by us followed the military to concoct that devilish 1999 constitution?

GodHatesBigots:
Folks I am deeply depressed. This weekend I spent most of my time on this forum and elsewhere debating and talking on matters relating to IPOB, ESN and the agitation for Biafra. And while I attended the IPOB fund raising event, I listened in but did not contribute a kobo. I am also not a member of IPOB but I sympathise with most of their concerns and really hope we can achieve them. I admire Nnamdi Kanu, in fact I love him - he is a warrior and he loves his people.

But there is a problem - I am in a dilemma. How can I contribute money to IPOB knowing that the money will go into the purchase of deadly arms that may kill my relatives in the army and police, or my friends in the army and police, or my old school mates in the army and police.

I won’t be able to sleep at night knowing that my contributions may have led to their untimely death. Conversely, I am gravely emotionally injured when I see the massacre of my people by Fulani herdsmen, the military, and police and sometimes I almost want to join the fight to destroy those who were guilty of genocide. It's hard for me and I almost weeping for my country and for my people. I don't want to see another innocent person in the force gunned down for doing their duty and I also do not want to see images of my fellow black people fleeing bandits in the North and herdsmen in the South.

No doubt something needs to be done, no doubt we are ruled by a terrorist government, no doubt we are not one nation and no doubt we need a final solution. However, I am unable to contribute money that may be attached to the shedding of blood of innocent people.

Note: If my money was purely for the destruction of Fulani herdsmen, including their terrorist supporters in the military or police, I would have emptied my bank account to IPOB, but not for the innocents or those doing their duty.

I need your advice and opinion.

Thanks, and God bless.

Let me tell you something! My uncle was a nigerian soldier himself and was killed by Adekunle, a Nigerian soldier for telling his kinsmen to escape after they were marked for killing as biafran sympathizers. My other uncle who was caught was molested and his manhood damaged. He committed suicide due to the trauma. My uncles death made me understand that I have no business with one nigeria that will kilĺ me to keep her going. My loyalty lies with the oppressed, who in this case are biafrans.
Think of it, your friends, class mates and all those who you know that are in the security sector, what are their motivations working for the country asides the salary gains? What positions are they in to positively change the situation of the country for good? If all those persons you know are not in the top position that can use their posts to influence and bring peace to all as you may wish, then you are wasting your time with them. They are puppets. They are zombies that would not care about you if order is given to finish u off. This is reality!
But for the Ipod, it is an existiantial war for them. Killing Igbos has not being a new thing, until someone stops the killing, they have no choice.

Klinee:
Guy, joke aside this is deadly! How can you kill these women and children who knew nothing about Nigeria political bewilder.
Negodu ka IPOB si gbuo umuaka na umunwanyi ne enweghi ihe ha mere.
IPOB bu Aru!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't even believe the story, but I would be glad if it is what it is. Haven't you seen pictures of innocent children and women killed by the fulani militias? You equally hit them where it pains the most. At least the the next generation of terrorists are reduced.

Klinee:
Am from Anambra state but from today I have come to stance that IPOB is a terrorist group and dreaded group far more deadly than Boko Haram

Go fxck ursef pussy nigga

MARKone:
I don't blame you, you still feed off your parents plate or your dunce head has refused to read the history of ndi Igbo and the civil war. No country survives a second civil war, and you think the Hausa/Fulanis' don't have an upper hand when the ethic cleansing starts. Ask your folks what happened to the Igbos pre civil war, we don't need a repeat of it right now. There is no love lost between me and the Northerners especially the Fulanis, but there are far better ways to handle and contain the situation than this. You need to understand my sentiments about the Igbo up North.

Shut the Bleep up! Several of my uncles fought against Biafra! In fact, the niger-delta force headed by Adaka Boro did more damage on Biafra. Stop the erroneous claim that yorubas and hausa fulanis were the strong men, left for them Biafra would have won. But this time, we will not join fraud nigeria to fight our igbo brothers.

MARKone:
Shut up, this is not about Buhari or Pantami. This is pure Evil, this is an entire family just wiped out, If this is truly from IPob, then Nnamdi Kanu and IPob are putting the vast majority of Igbos doing business in the North in a precarious situation. This is not what we want, the bloodshed has gotten too much. When the Hausas/Fulanis' starts to retaliate it will be bloody.

Shush

Amaechi2023:
I'm in the north and I'm safe but what if northerner's starts to kill innocent people in retaliation?
a criminal remains a criminal, leave tribalism out of this, except your a beneficiary of crisis..

U better come down south na. You will never have the chance to show those northerners this your nairaland posts.

kingthreat:
Igbo people, Nnamdi Kanu has made you beasts.
Do you know that this killings can lead to retaliation against your kindred in the North?
The UK should arrest Nnamdi Kanu now for inciting hate and killings that indirectly affects his own people.

Shush!

doctokwus:
Nothing can justify the killing of innocent women and children, nothing!
If you have a confrontation with armed people trying to harm or kill you and you retaliate it's justifiable,but innocent women and children!
The culprits need to be fished out and the full force of legitimate government authority brought to bear on them.
No one should support such evil.

Shut the Bleep up! Thank you!

jaxxy:
There was violence or clashes because of unnecessary provocative statements from Ipob which escalated in the past. Ipob even threatened governors. All this was unnecessary and provocative. Then clashes happened.

It wasn’t a direct attack from government until they were proscribed by ur governors recommendations as it was claimed erroneously however.

Revisionist! Ipob begged and begged not to be killed for holding just biafran meetings with flags and other insignia. You all were laughing at their tears then. Common! Na blood dey flow everybody body.

Christistruth00:
LIAR !!!!

Adaka Boro was killed by a Biafran Soldier at Okrika




Truth is Light

Gen Alabi Isama was the one who saved the Life of the Biafran soldier that killed Boro after he was Captured

Many Federal soldier's were ready to Finish him off immediately despite him being a Prisoner of War

Alabi Isama had to send the Biafran soldier who killed Adaka boro to be detained in Lagos for his own safety
He would not have Survived detention by the Federal 3MCDO troops in the East

Revisionist, that is what you are! Adaka Boro was killed by Adekunle, A Nigerian soldier, the same man who shot and killed my very uncle for telling my kinsmen who were on the list of Biafran sympathizers.

meccuno:
just leave that child of lucifer. i just dey look am

I just dey pity them. They must think everyone is a fool. So them go carry our oil money take fight second biafra war, and we go mumu look.

FatherOfJesus:
So you want to fight a war?

Does anyone have a choice? When push comes to shove, you will fight or run. The choice is everyone to make.

FatherOfJesus:
We can’t do anything without politics.
I’m also from southsouth

Stop saying that. Systems and governments rise and fall, it didn't start today. That is what makes us humans. Nothing is permanent in life, it is not cast on stone. Don't let make you think Nigeria is indissoluble. With or without politics, the inherit spirit of man to be free and his right to choice will prevail.

FatherOfJesus:
I wish your politicans eating oyel money share your opinion.

When it happens, they won't be calling the shots.

FatherOfJesus:
IPOB already has most people on their side in the east. Nnamdi Kanu or any other influential person has to take the chill pill and start telling Igbos that you need to vote right people. Make your own political candidates.

Nnamdi Kanu will start by slowly infiltrating a political part like APGA in disguise, carry all your followers into the party slowly, during election campaign on his radio for your members in that party, fight anybody who is opposed to your political will instead of fighting the army. Slowly take over states, local governments, and house of assembly. It’s not going to be easy but we have to make deliberate efforts.
When you are done with this, slowly make allies in the southsouth and Southwest then start pushing for disintegration in the federal house assembly. Form a strong local political cult that will lobby even international support for a referendum as backup.

Even if you carry weapon at this stage, you have strong political support, Nigeria will think twice before engaging us.

Your 1999 constitution was not created by elected representatives, so how can you change that through elected men when the whole processes have been rigged to favour the north? If Nnamdi Kanu succeeds in penetrating any political party, does he have the numbers in the Assembly to get the required votes? You don't know that our problem now is the 1999 constitution that used "we the people" even though none of us or our elected representatives were involved; and even if they were, the pronouncements are made to strangulate us. Their is no diplomacy that will make the north come to agreement with you to remove the powers they have on us through that fraudulent document.

FatherOfJesus:
i didn’t mean landlocked geographically, I meant landlocked within “enemy territories”
South south will sell you out clean

We will not sell Biafra for one Nigeria.

FatherOfJesus:
First of all, I will let you know that I’m very much not against the disintegration of Nigeria because there’s really nothing to be proud of as a Nigerian. It doesn’t matter what part Nigeria you come from, you are not living a quality and standard life, so it’s okay we break it if it’s not working.

MY VIEW ON NNAMDI KANU:
Sincerely speaking, anyone without bias knows that Nnamdi Kanu has lot of valid arguments but I personally think his approach to solving the problem is invalid. Calm down, I know my brothers do not I agree, I’m here to let you see reasons.
Nnamdi Kanu, irrespective of his sound argument, is allowing emotions take the most of him hence he makes bad decisions. I listen to a lot of his broadcasts , though He peddles some propaganda but a lot of what he says are true. Listening to him, you feel anger in his words, you can never make good decisions in anger.
The Biafran movement is just but it requires a master plan and patience to execute it. Nnamdi Kanu is ruining it and I don’t think he’s capable of leading this cause.

WHY IT’S BAD IDEA TO TAKE UP ARMS
Firstly, we must consider the tactics ESN will employ, which is obviously “guerrilla”. This tactics will work better in the north because the terrain is sparsely populated with vast land that will provide hideouts for militia. The vast and rash landscape of the north will make it difficult for Nigerian military to coordinate attacks.
That’s not the case with Igboland, Igbo land is dense in population with town and cities just few kilometers away. Most importantly, lgboland is landlocked within enemy territories (this considering that IJaws and other south south tribes will most likely sell igbos out), So it’s you have enemy military bases closely surrounding our borders. This is not the case in the north.
It’s a suicide mission trying to carry arms unless you plan to take the fight to other regions to further make life difficult for the military.


MY PERSONAL OPINION TO ACHIEVING BIAFRA
Our elders use to say that “If you want to catch a monkey, you have to act like a monkey”.
It’s obvious that IPOB already has support and popularity in the east, since that’s the case why not exercise patience, make a political masterplan and execute it.

The best battles are not won with weapons but by men with strategies. Most contemporary wars are won on the politically landscape.
This is why IPOB should make a master plan on how to infiltrate the local politics in the east.
You cannot start a secession when you have TA Orji as a senator and Cryinf Gburugburu as a governor
Give yourself time, start taking over grassroots politics like wards and local government. Put people who share your ideology and put them in key political positions in the east. State and federal house of assembly and as governors. After this, take the fight to Abuja. Your members will take key federal appointment coming to the east, you can even go as far as taking key political positions in the Igbo speaking parts of Rivers and Delta state.
When you start this political war, you may not even pick up weapons when it’s time and you will win.
This structure will make it easier to build international bridges and allly base. Mount pressure on your lawmakers and governors, if they are not doing what you want, replace them with your people, get involved in the local politics and disrupt it. Internal and external political structure and support is key if we must win this fight. Udo di umunne


If una start this fight without proper blueprint, I go leave una go meet my in-laws for Ghana

I no Dey start fight wey I no fit win, I Dey plan my fight and select am well

If you know the deep truth about Nigeria, the faulty foundation upon which Nigeria is laid, you will not have the patience to use diplomatic approach. Diplomacy rarely work with black men. If the white people who actually colonised us, did the sharing at the Berlin Conference on a roundtable without gun fighting; they allowed us have our independence without any African country winning them in a battle, then why is it so difficult for Blackmen to equally solve issues on a roundtable. The aburi accord roundtable agreement were not followed. You can really blame anyone for not following diplomacy with a system that does not listen to commonsense.

PlayMaker14:
It seems our traditional rulers are having some skeletons in their Royal cupboards...

First it was the Yahoo Oba who was heavily engage in romance scam, now this....

You don't need anyone to tell you that everybody now needs personal arms for self protection. What you have read likely the military taking away their protection so that they will be vulnerable to attacks by killer bandits. Securities and bandits are at war with the common man.

helinues:
Simple question see where you are shifting the goal post to..

Where is oil facilities that angry ESN want to destroy located?

Look! U guys are joking and sleeping on bicycles! My late uncle and Adaka Boro and several Ijaw men fought on the side of Nigeria, but how was they awarded? My late uncle was killed by Nigerian soldiers for leaking information to his kinsmen to escape when they were coming towards our clan killing accused Biafran sympathizers. In the death of that my uncle we lost a lot of opportunities that up till this moment affect us. Adaka Boro despite being the first person to wage war against Nigeria for secession was lured to fight against Biafra by Nigeria, but was killed by Nigerian soldier. Several of our men fought on the side of Nigeria to make it one, but how have we been treated with our oil sustaining this fraud of a country? Our men died in war only for the yorubas and Hausa-fulanis to take the glory. My mum suffered so much in the hands of Nigerian soldiers, a closed relative of our committed suicide after Nigeria soldier damaged his manhood with sticks simply because an informant who hates him included him as Biafran sympathizer even though wasn't. As an Ijaw man, we have lost enough to keep Nigeria going. I come from an oil producing community, we have one of the biggest oil fields, but every single little things we enjoy today was gotten through masses protests. We are suffering! Nobody regards us. The whole of my clan is ladened with oil and gas, yet we are impoverished. So, if you think we will allow fraud Nigeria to use our oil money to wage war on Biafrans, you all are joking, I swear. Yorubas and the hausa fulani can contribute and do that, but we will rather set those shits on flame than see it running to be used by one nigeria idiots to terminate Biafrans. We have learnt our lessons. The lie that Igbos we dominate us and enslave us that if we join them has been seen by us— one Nigeria has shown their disdain for us.

christistruth01:
South East hardly has any critical Oil facilities

Look! U guys are joking and sleeping on bicycles! My late uncle and Adaka Boro and several Ijaw men fought on the side of Nigeria, but how was they awarded? My late uncle was killed by Nigerian soldiers for leaking information to his kinsmen to escape when they were coming towards our clan killing accused Biafran sympathizers. In the death of that my uncle we lost a lot of opportunities that up till this moment affect us. Adaka Boro despite being the first person to wage war against Nigeria for secession was lured to fight against Biafra by Nigeria, but was killed by Nigerian soldier. Several of our men fought on the side of Nigeria to make it one, but how have we been treated with our oil sustaining this fraud of a country? Our men died in war only for the yorubas and Hausa-fulanis to take the glory. My mum suffered so much in the hands of Nigerian soldiers, a closed relative of our committed suicide after Nigeria soldier damaged his manhood with sticks simply because an informant who hates him included him as Biafran sympathizer even though wasn't. As an Ijaw man, we have lost enough to keep Nigeria going. I come from an oil producing community, we have one of the biggest oil fields, but every single little things we enjoy today was gotten through masses protests. We are suffering! Nobody regards us. The whole of my clan is ladened with oil and gas, yet we are impoverished. So, if you think we will allow fraud Nigeria to use our oil money to wage war on Biafrans, you all are joking, I swear. Yorubas and the hausa fulani can contribute and do that, but we will rather set those shits on flame than see it running to be used by one nigeria idiots to terminate Biafrans. We have learnt our lessons. The lie that Igbos we dominate us and enslave us that if we join them has been seen by us— one Nigeria has shown their disdain for us.

maasoap:
The sensible question is why would anyone wants to declare state of emergency in South East and even go the extent of plotting attacks that will lead to it? Any rational answer?

Focus on oil is fading, and fg is aiming on gas. The east has a lot of gas reserves. They want those gas, and knowing that the east may not want exploitation just like what the Niger Delta passed through.

Olayinka777:
U are insane

Your own weyrey dey disguise

sarrki:
Why is it hard to conquer boko haram & bandits?

But very swift to kill ipob commanders ?

Very quick to tame igboho ?

Northern oligarchy knows about it

Any uprising that goes on beyond 72hrs has the backing of the government. All of these are north's game.

helinues:
Oil facilities located at where?

You think only Igbos are biafrans? lmao.

helinues:
You are not getting the point...

Have Boko haram not been bombing , killing and kidnapping people for more than a decade? Why are they not operating in any part of the Southern region?

Pushing it further can never be a threat to FGN, Nigeria army, other regions except the rag tag ESN and the region SE.

Are ESN/UGM footsoldiers up to 2,000? Where do they want to operate from ?

You better tell them not to bring unnecessary destruction of lives and property to SE region cos it's a fight they can never and never win...

It is a war they can win with bombing of your oil facilities.

KingsleyWabote:
Which of the pipelines has your father's name inscribed on it? You are a mumu man!

I am an ijaw man, one of the largest oil fields is in my community.

KingsleyWabote:
I think it's high time PMB gave a presidential order declaring a state of emergency all over the SE and other affected SS states. There should be full fledged war against IPOB terrorists without delay. Heavy artillery weapons should be rolled into the region and used against the insurgents, as well as constant air bombardments from NAF.

Try it and we set the pipelines on fire.

If ESN can just get weapons that can easily bring down fighter jets down and or get their won fighter jets, then the war is even. Deployment of jets is what may easily weaken them, aside that, using guerrilla warfare, they can sustain the fight. But that is not what we want. We just want Biafra.