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Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 7:45am On Jun 25, 2020

2prexios:
This is a very creative history. It's purely a disregard for the tradition of the Yoruba folks to answer to the fad of the time.

Yoruba tradition has always been in the custody of Ifa oracular dicta and the people never wandered too far from it in their tradition.

It's not up to a century that the professors took over, and they're not better managers than the perpetual custodians of our history.

Any claim devoid of Ifa oracular dicta on Yoruba history is an act of benikan ba dafanu...

Enikan la o fi ko...

Here's Professor E.A. Afigbo referencing the same findings where professor Akintoye version of Yoruba origin stemmed from in "Igbo Language And Culture"

My take is, how would things possibly turned out should he have loved to make a historical book independent of Akintoye version from the same linguistic findings?

It's going to be a different embellishment. And that equally reminds us of the recent submission of the Attah of Igala on where to look to find connection for the lower guinea language family.

Even the birth of Indo-European language hypothesis in the last few centuries was borne out of observation of correlations between the language of the Sanskrit as preserved in Veda, with Parsian/European languages.

Now etching the Yoruba history on it's puppet hypothesis of "Niger Congo linguistic family" without reference to Ifa oracular dicta and what it has to say is like an excellent abandonment of the "Veda" in the core of the Indo-European language hypothesis.

And who build an history on speculations from academics where notions don't have to last for centuries? Such is the world of the reactionary neo-elites the story was meant to serve.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 6:12am On Jun 25, 2020

MetaPhysical:
This was a very educative and, at one point progressively enlightening thread.

I think absolutesuccess, prexios, macof, you guys need to step away and go do other things for few weeks to calm down and return. Alternatively, make conscious effort to ignore each other's posts for some lengthy time and cool off.

Your interaction has taken a new and ugly dimension.

Macof, I want to ask why you dont open thread to propose your own idea and theories of Yoruba roots?

Create your own theories on Ife and stop spoiling other people pursuit and theories.

I am so sorry for being very personal and vulgar and allowed my emotions to get the best of me.

I've struggled to hold back, but the temptations kept coming. I've begged and spoke calmness to no avail.

I will like to take your advice and step out after this decisive page. Thanks.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 6:03am On Jun 25, 2020

MetaPhysical:
I did not say dont challenge what you find problem with. I say for a change, you lead and show what the facts are. Open a thread and document Yoruba roots as you believe it to be.

I accentuate to this.

You will not catch me on your (macof) thread whatever your claims are since it seems we don't get along very well from years of experience.

Please create your own thread on Yoruba history. Take the lead instead of needing to bring down another person's. It's long overdue.

Except you're still going through change

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 7:13am On Jun 24, 2020*

Here's citation from the book Central Africa (1857) by the missionary Thomas Jefferson Bowen:

"According to one tradition of the Yorubas, their ancestors, and in fact, the original parents of the whole human race, were created at Ifeh, which still exists in the east of the Yoruba kingdom.

They told Lander, and have told me, that Ifeh, where men were created, is several months journey distant, and sometimes they speak of it as standing on the sea, although, of course, they are not ignorant of its true location.

There seems to be a confused memory of another Ifeh, from which their ancestors emigrated to this country, and founded the present town of that name, which is universally regarded as the metropolis of all the Yoruba tribes ."

People of the time still have clear claim to have emigrated from the sea or the east, as in the case of Ife to their present abode.

This (seafaring tradition) is the original notion that Yoruba alluded to. The claim is well attested to in Yoruba tradition.

It's long preseved and derived from Ifa. Yoruba reference to the sea is paraphrasing Ifa oracular dicta.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 7:00am On Jun 24, 2020

RedboneSmith:
"During the later stages of the Late Stone Age, as farming turned wandering folks into settlers (from about 4000 BC), the scattered spread of farming people living in the West African region slowly began to get differentiated into related clusters and groups speaking proto-languages consisting of dialects that were related to one another.

Available linguistic evidence indicates that many such groups and clusters slowly formed on the banks of the Middle Niger, mostly in the area of the Niger—Benue confluence and above it. This linguistic evidence suggests that the Yoruba, Igala, Edo, Idoma, Ebira, Nupe, Kakanda, Gbagyi and Igbo belonged to a cluster of languages, now called Kwa sub-group of languages by modern scholars, belonging to a larger family of languages now called the Niger-Congo (or Nigritic) family of languages.

The small cluster was concentrated roughly around the Niger—Benue confluence. Over thousands of years, the groups in this cluster slowly separated as they developed distinctive characteristics, probably the last language groups to separate being the Igala and Yoruba. One study suggests that the proto-Yoruba and proto-Nupe language sub-families seem to have migrated from a little further up the Niger, slowly expanding towards the confluence, and that during that process each finally became differentiated from a mother language group.6

The clear implication of all this is that the origin of the Yoruba people as a linguistic and ethnic group belongs in the process of slow differentiation of proto-groups which occurred in the Middle Niger and around the Niger—Benue confluence, beginning about 4000 BC and continuing for thousands of years. It is, therefore, in this area that we must find the first home of the Yoruba as one people — the area close to the Niger—Benue confluence and further up the Niger, where the southern Nupe and the far northeastern Yoruba groups — the Yagba, Jumu, Ikiri, Oworo, Owe, and Bunu (now collectively called the Okun Yoruba by some scholars) — and the northernmost Igbomina, live today."

~ From "A History of the Yoruba People" by Professor Stephen Adebanji Akintoye.

Professor Akintoye is a professional historian. Not an amateur dabbling into something he is ill-equipped to grasp properly. He has been doing serious history for sixty years.

This is a very creative history. It's purely a disregard for the tradition of the Yoruba folks to answer to the fad of the time.

Yoruba tradition has always been in the custody of Ifa oracular dicta and the people never wandered too far from it in their tradition.

It's not up to a century that the professors took over, and they're not better managers than the perpetual custodians of our history.

Any claim devoid of Ifa oracular dicta on Yoruba history is an act of benikan ba dafanu...

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 6:45am On Jun 24, 2020

RedboneSmith:
"During the later stages of the Late Stone Age, as farming turned wandering folks into settlers (from about 4000 BC), the scattered spread of farming people living in the West African region slowly began to get differentiated into related clusters and groups speaking proto-languages consisting of dialects that were related to one another.

Available linguistic evidence indicates that many such groups and clusters slowly formed on the banks of the Middle Niger, mostly in the area of the Niger—Benue confluence and above it. This linguistic evidence suggests that the Yoruba, Igala, Edo, Idoma, Ebira, Nupe, Kakanda, Gbagyi and Igbo belonged to a cluster of languages, now called Kwa sub-group of languages by modern scholars, belonging to a larger family of languages now called the Niger-Congo (or Nigritic) family of languages.

The small cluster was concentrated roughly around the Niger—Benue confluence. Over thousands of years, the groups in this cluster slowly separated as they developed distinctive characteristics, probably the last language groups to separate being the Igala and Yoruba. One study suggests that the proto-Yoruba and proto-Nupe language sub-families seem to have migrated from a little further up the Niger, slowly expanding towards the confluence, and that during that process each finally became differentiated from a mother language group.6

The clear implication of all this is that the origin of the Yoruba people as a linguistic and ethnic group belongs in the process of slow differentiation of proto-groups which occurred in the Middle Niger and around the Niger—Benue confluence, beginning about 4000 BC and continuing for thousands of years. It is, therefore, in this area that we must find the first home of the Yoruba as one people — the area close to the Niger—Benue confluence and further up the Niger, where the southern Nupe and the far northeastern Yoruba groups — the Yagba, Jumu, Ikiri, Oworo, Owe, and Bunu (now collectively called the Okun Yoruba by some scholars) — and the northernmost Igbomina, live today."

~ From "A History of the Yoruba People" by Professor Stephen Adebanji Akintoye.

Professor Akintoye is a professional historian. Not an amateur dabbling into something he is ill-equipped to grasp properly. He has been doing serious history for sixty years.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 3:16am On Jun 24, 2020*

I appreciate your collective efforts to see me fail, it's an inspiration to do more than I thought I could.

And thanks to my friends on this same page. Olu, metaphysical, etc. May God continue to bless us all.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:48am On Jun 24, 2020

macof:
Interesting. Taken far too personal. You need to grow up if you have to resort to threatening death

Sorry if that hurts. I don't mean it that way. Thanks for the guidance.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:00am On Jun 24, 2020

macof:
You will shine when you provide historical records of Hebrew migration to Yorùbáland from either yorubas or Hebrews
Or archeological or genetic evidence to same effect

It's impossible from your end because it's not a beat you were designed to unravel. And you are the infinitesimal entity I'm to hand over such information to should I have it.

Kid, read about ideas and how to protect your ideas from dreamkillers. Whatever you want to do in life, there's always the hordes to tell you that it's impossible.

They were men with good intentions. But that's what they were, dreamkillers. Hundreds of years afterwards, event confirms exactly what they claim to be impossible.

It's better to fall being original failure than succeed as a macof that abandoned his ideas of Oduduwa 6 years ago for one stupid micro claim that's conterproductive to his big-picture claim as a successful puppet just to answer "historian".

You are created to oppose me, so you are a sub, not main. Main never take instructions from sub.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 1:45am On Jun 24, 2020

macof:
mr giver of ideas...
Because the idea of personality was not known before you wrote the word "personality" in your previous comment

Giver of ideas and imaginative claims but not evidence

Bloody frantic clown
Keep it up. I'm enjoying your show

The clown is you.

You are the pathological liar and psychopath that must disgrace someone else to stay relevant.

Here you will earn likes, but I will use you to shine. It's a great trade.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 1:32am On Jun 24, 2020

macof:
this right here as well as many more previous declaration of light vs darkness over a thread on NL shows you are frantic and depend on nairaland fame. A failed reputation here hits you badly.
Anyone who questions you is met with attacks and called a destroyer. Anybody who commends you is met with joyful thanks and gratitude.
You also seem to have a serious thing with my posts getting likes

My friend getthafuvk out. Too childish

LOL,

Bloody Serpent

I've given you the idea of what personality is all about, you are quick to oversimplify it.

I'm seeking nairaland fame and you are seeking nairaland shame?

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 1:28am On Jun 24, 2020

macof:
Long rants.

I don't doubt mfm or a similar church is paying you.. All of you are on a failed agenda
I take it you have nothing to say about Robin Law.
You just wanted to mention him to show that you've finally started reading a book
Congrats though.. Keep it up boy

Lazy scoundrel,

you want to bail out on yourself. Go on, I hold the information away from you this time. Can't read but keen to damage every hard labour others put in.

macof

what concerns Robin law on Oyo empire with oduduwa in ife?
Also let's be real, you have not read Robin Law
You don't read

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 1:20am On Jun 24, 2020

macof:
Like I said you are obsessed with my personality. And you are only looking for something to naile with
You have never found anything because there is none.. Just as you have not found evidence for your Hebrew claim.

Keep going back to my posts from 6 or 7 years ago
There's absolutely nothing in that post that you have to nail on me. Keep trying
At this point I'm done telling you to stop taking it personal. But your lack of maturity and common sense is out of this world

You don't have a personality, I do.

You are here to gather likes to feel good about your personality because it's all you have to feel relevant. I am here to consistently answer you, hoping that this website will outlive me.

At the end, every light needs a darkness to shine brighter, I'm the one using you to shine. Hence you have your rewards and I have mine. It's how God has designed it to be.

When plotting your character in a novel, you don't save him from going through the fire. Your kind of clique are the necessary devil that darken the cloud for Divine enlightenment to shine through.

Oyela, to cause fog on light, elaro wa, to cause light to pierce through the darkness.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 1:00am On Jun 24, 2020

Macof

There is no Ewọ (taboo) in Atẹwọrọ
Atẹwọnrọ/Atẹwọrọ - Atẹ̀ (like A tẹ̀lé = to follow) , ẹwọn (chain), rọ (descend)
So it means to descend through a chain

You should really stop, it's disgraceful what you are doing.

Scammer.

Look at what you did up there muddling up historical words in crazy frenzy to crack up what is too profound for you to break.

There's no Ewọ, but atewonro and ateworo is allowed to mean exactly the same thing because you said so?

If you are that good, what is "toro" in Yoruba? Give all possible meaning of the word.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 11:47pm On Jun 23, 2020*

Ateworo,

Historical and scientific Validation:

Ateworo
Olofin

Given that ateworo means "one who press the law to it's flexible end", that would make the suffix 'ro' an adverb, adding more meaning to the verb, te, meaning "to press".

Main and subordinate clauses

The main clause therefore is atewo, one who press the law. It's thus a label. Subordinate clause is a-ro, meaning "flexible end". If that's correct, then the two phrases should agree.

So here's the clue.

Atewo = Olofin

A=O
Té=lo
Wo=fin

Let's say ewo is Iwo, Ifa, òfìn and ikin. The groits were known as a ro kin. Ro in that sense is equivalent with lo, as found in Olofin:

Arokin=Olofin

A=O
Ro=Lo
Kin=fin

It also becomes Ron/ro when seen from Ifa perspective: gbonmogbonmo laa ro/ron faa'diti. So this syllable is constant in Yoruba history.

Arofa = Arowasi= Oniwasu= Arokin

Science means repeating the same thing twice or more and getting the same result. Scientific method of history is validated by this experiment in history.

Iwo Eleru: the law hard to break
Iworo: the law stands firm.

Historical perspective

The Awori claim that they followed Olofin from Ife and part of the place they anchor on the way was Iro. The word marks something spectacular in Yoruba history.

Iro: Amendment to Constitution

Iloro is a manifestation of the two options for bend and soft in the same word, where it means becoming wealthy.

Iloro in the ancient Yoruba history is akin to Ilaje, having money. Oduduwa is known as Alaje. Aje is Yoruba icon for wealth.

Observe the saying: iwo olodo Oba, omo ate ni gbola. Our pointers are all intact in there, Iwo, Olodo, Oba, ate, ateni, gbola.

There's transfer of wealth with the amendment to the Constitution, and the recipient was Oduduwa.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 10:31pm On Jun 23, 2020*

macof

More rants and cries grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Tell us what Robin law said that is getting you excited thinking you have found something to nail me.

I can see you think I am here to play your game. Who are you that nailing you would be my priority? It's your own lies and inexperience that will smoke you out like a rodent. Just a little moment from now.

He has numerous works, I don't have his entire scholarship memorized in my head enough to know what exactly you might be referring to.

Can you imagine this! Do I asked you to memorize anything? Good God, you knew he had several scholarship but missed out I asked you to read "The Oyo Empire" by Robin Law after you have mesmerized around the same title over and over? You are clueless.

My saying go back and read Robin Law got you confused because. You only caught hold of the name Robin Law, the title had never crossed your mind. Ohh what a Yoruba scholars you were, what an authoritative historian.

I must be a prophet, I thanked you for inviting men that are wiser than you to the thread when you invited ggregboy. He has cited the book I asked you to read on my thread on Oriki.

Also, let's be real this whole reference to Robin law is just your excitement to be reading a historian's work for the first time after you just recently bought one of his books.
Not that there's anything that supports Semitic connection

Your elicitation technique never worked on me. I only give as much as I would want others to know. You feigning "grandiose" to ferret facts from your victims that want to be right at all cost had never worked on me, so do the job and destroy it.

I think you should know I'm sponsored by mfm too, take it back to Facebook since it's what you live for.

Thats the only thing that is real here, this Jewish hangover is your life, your passion and your existence. It's what you live for to destroy in Yoruba history before it dare manifest and become a viable claim.

Before: no clue about the title yet

macof

what concerns Robin law on Oyo empire with oduduwa in ife?
Also let's be real, you have not read Robin Law
You don't read

After: got the clue but not sure

macof

And what has Robin Law's "The Oyo empire" or any of his works got to do with your old interpretation or 4 new interpretations of "Ateworo"?

Now: completely confused spoofing.

macof

He has numerous works, I don't have his entire scholarship memorized in my head enough to know what exactly you might be referring to.

Scammer, you don't know what you don't know. Whatever you read, if any, you can never understood any beyond your IQ. I won't help you out, go back and read Robin Law

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 10:05pm On Jun 23, 2020

macof

so you stayed up all night going through all my old posts and saw a post from over 6 years ago and think it's laughable.

Scammer, if your post of 6 years ago is worthless as reference today, how much more the claim you make today about a thousand years ago that you don't know? grin

A man who cannot draw out from 3,000 years ago is poor indeed, said Goethe.

This guy just desperate sha you even had to mention this post on two threads just to get my attention thinking you've found something to nail my personality

Your outbursts are borne out of your megalomaniac personality. Insatiable desire for power, influence or both daily whets your wiles, not intellect.

Check the title of the thread 6 years ago, it's Oduduwa ateworo. When you join the conversation, were you blind or the phrase fell on your blind spot? Why not argue your point there right then?

Here was your response to the post 6 years ago

Diffusing to Ijaw is making case for "Niger Congo linguistic family" by me, just as my claiming Odion is Odiyan. But again, the reality of this is at your "blind spot" because you don't know what you don't know.

You are a contextual person, you don't recognize crucial feeds for the content of your context as a "non-original thinker". You depend on written books for the little you know, than your guts

Hence it's clear you are a better confused fellow speculating then than now. How do you want to make valid claim for your lower guinea claim divesting your position on Oduduwa to microscopic event alluded to in oke ora saga?

You are confused now as a puppet to the onisoro than you were 6 years ago. A typical Onisoro Eda lipsrsealed

1. How does your present claim trickle down to Ijaw and validate the ethno-linguistic connection further down the littoral region?

2. Remember you claim they all alluded to an antediluvian age in their tradition not long ago, do you? Kindly sort all your thousand claims. I know you depend on temerity to take home the claim.

Clueless specialist cool

3. You alluded to linguistics but you have never cited a valid vocabulary connection between Yoruba, Igbo, Fon in all your years of practice as an erudite historian cool

Rather than looking for ways to insult me and attack my personality just do the needful - provide evidence for your claims and stop running around

Your personality again? You and your grandiose delution are inseparable. Your temerity is an act of cowardice covering your tracks. Provide the source for the claim below. Abi na so your professor of methodology teach you ba?

macof:

I can't even remember who the writer is and I never saved the page.

One thing I remember is dat the 'ogiso' is an ijaw name as well as the name 'igodo'.

some geologist have described This region- that is South South Nigeria as a very old habitation dating several Years on BC(the figures I can't remember).

Two set of inhabitants is known
1. Ancient People from the sky known as Oru (possibly a variant of Horus- Egyptian God of the sky)
2. migrants from The North who settled in Ile-Ife and claimed descent from Oduduwa and Osara- must be Okanbi's followers or unrecorded children

The ijo seem to know a lot about Oduduwa even better than some Yoruba people(that is if their records are accurate)
They know his wife Osara and some claim descent from her.

Oduduwa according to ijo came from Nubia.
That could explain why Oduduwa was very friendly to Ogboroganda who also came from Nubian territories

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 9:14pm On Jun 23, 2020

rhektor:
I am in Lagos please let me know how and when it can be done, thanks in advance

Alright bro, give me an idea of the copies you might be getting to work with, then I will send it.

Thanks for the patronage in advance.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 8:02am On Jun 21, 2020

macof:
I can't even remember who the writer is and I never saved the page.

One thing I remember is dat the 'ogiso' is an ijaw name as well as the name 'igodo'.

some geologist have described This region- that is South South Nigeria as a very old habitation dating several Years on BC(the figures I can't remember).

Two set of inhabitants is known
1. Ancient People from the sky known as Oru (possibly a variant of Horus- Egyptian God of the sky)
2. migrants from The North who settled in Ile-Ife and claimed descent from Oduduwa and Osara- must be Okanbi's followers or unrecorded children

The ijo seem to know a lot about Oduduwa even better than some Yoruba people(that is if their records are accurate)
They know his wife Osara and some claim descent from her.

Oduduwa according to ijo came from Nubia.
That could explain why Oduduwa was very friendly to Ogboroganda who also came from Nubian territories

I'm going through change eh.

Culture › Re: Oduduwa Ateworo by 2prexios: 7:59am On Jun 21, 2020

macof:
I can't even remember who the writer is and I never saved the page.

One thing I remember is dat the 'ogiso' is an ijaw name as well as the name 'igodo'.

some geologist have described This region- that is South South Nigeria as a very old habitation dating several Years on BC(the figures I can't remember).

Two set of inhabitants is known
1. Ancient People from the sky known as Oru (possibly a variant of Horus- Egyptian God of the sky)
2. migrants from The North who settled in Ile-Ife and claimed descent from Oduduwa and Osara- must be Okanbi's followers or unrecorded children

The ijo seem to know a lot about Oduduwa even better than some Yoruba people(that is if their records are accurate)
They know his wife Osara and some claim descent from her.

Oduduwa according to ijo came from Nubia.
That could explain why Oduduwa was very friendly to Ogboroganda who also came from Nubian territories

Lol

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 7:08am On Jun 21, 2020

Jan. 10, 2014

https://www.nairaland.com/1588236/oduduwa-ateworo

Nov. 1, 2014

https://www.nairaland.com/1976967/origin-name-yoruba

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 6:24am On Jun 21, 2020*

macof:
Rants and cries from a pained frustrated fraud who knows he is being embarrassed
I'm still waiting for you to debunk any information I have posted here.

And i'm still waiting for how Robin Law's works confirm any single semitic nonsense you post here. Why mention Robin Law?
You are really ecstatic to have finally bought a history book we won't hear the end of it

There you go again, scammer. grin

Oduduwa atewonro was in my book
Oduduwa ateworo is equally in my book.
I paraphrased both options in Yoruba.
I equally discussed "ayinike Ati Ayinipada".
I made a case for the right option.

Gbam.

You repeated what I have already shared in my book but argued for the popular version, Oduduwa atewonro. You are an "intelligence deficit" monomaniac fighting for spotlight through others' labour.

Is your argument new to me or something? You are a repeater. I have forced a confession from you through the book because you earlier pretend that tradition doesn't exist.

So it's this "elewon" tradition that is right now not onisoro, obadio, ascention rites, rituals and all that again as you originally claim. Oh, it's duality of identity? How about the chain?
cheesy

Your camaraderies never validate you have a new argument. You only argued for the popular version, circulated by Samuel Johnson. What's your excitement in intellectual plagiarism?

You are like a hen that layed an egg and coocoo around as though it has laid an asteroid grin

Well that's not mine but Mark Twain's.

I have given you a receipt for a book I bought many years ago, so as to silence your lunacy. It should mean nothing to you in the perpetual state of your mind. But it is an exhibit that you have no clue what you says.

Go for a check

Now, you arguing for Oduduwa atewonro suddenly made me go out to buy books and I suddenly know the right book to buy and within the timeline, it's Robin Law, your kind of book?

Again you are an embarrassment to yourself, not to me. You and your hordes are failures at what you love most. You acknowledge the scholar but still question his work before reading it.

I am not a performance monkey of yours, you should have read Robin Law. So you don't know what he said in light of the foregoing? WOW! so I should fetch it for you to damage as usual?

And you are a trained historian, well read and experience in Yoruba history? Don't worry keep waiting for me as your pawn. Your lies are travelling behind you.

macof

what concerns Robin law on Oyo empire with oduduwa in ife?
Also let's be real, you have not read Robin Law
You don't read

You don't know what you don't know. Whatever you read, if any, you can never understood any beyond your IQ. I won't help you out, go back and read Robin Law.

cheesy

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Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 9:15pm On Jun 20, 2020*

macof:
Lmao this one is just running mad right now
I have demonstrated what atewonro and Olofin mean. You have not pointed out why my interpretation is wrong.
I broke down the word and gave examples of where else those broken down words are found. My break down is also consistent with every single translation of the word out there

After dropping one very ridiculous translation of Ateworo in your book.. You now have new 4 translations .. You have dumped the translation you gave in the book
Reason why you should not rush to write a book. You equip yourself with necessary training and knowledge of what you are writing

You are simply pained that you got exposed for your poor understanding of the language and seek to fire back.
All this rant of "I'm cautious I'm not original" bla bla is rant of a desperate fool who couldn't find any information I have dropped to debunk like I debunk your nonsense on a regular basis

You don't know what you don't know. Whatever you read, if any, you can never understood any beyond your IQ. I repeat, go back and read Robin Law.

cheesy

By the way I heard you are traveling to many Muslim countries soon to find out the meaning of the name Yoruba? Congratulations I have given you a path in life via my thread, origin of the name Yoruba.

Here is a copy of the book to that particular thread. I made the book before the thread tho.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 9:11pm On Jun 20, 2020

macof:
You cry and rant about how I dismantle your nonsense all the time.. Since you insist my information is folly... Do the needful and debunk them like I debunk all your nonsense

Boy this has become your mantra. I am not your performance monkey. It's the circus's life you live, it's your destiny. You are the destroyer here, who is more psychopathic than you? grin

congratulations..
You have finally bought a book and started reading history from an actual historian like I told you to. No wonder you felt suddenly empowered to come fire back at me

Scammer, I have attached the screenshot of a book I bought back then in 2007, you should check out the source of the word ejilaosebora in it, meaning "the twelve that emanated from Ebora".

Although it's syncretic, but the cluster ejilaosebora is historical. Your historians have found the facts of Yoruba history eventually? I am not a historian, I am a pundit of Yoruba tradition.

My beat is beyond "curricula history". Stick that to your head like you did Ebora is Debora. wink

Your historians are not the custodians of Yoruba history or tradition. So don't sell me the dummy.

Unfortunately for you, Robin Law does not propagate a single nonsense you claim on this forum. So don't just mention names of scholars for nothing

And what has Robin Law's "The Oyo empire" or any of his works got to do with your old interpretation or 4 new interpretations of "Ateworo"?

Scammer, you are on the path of scenting us off your trail again. What do you do for living? I believe you are a very great internet fraudster. You have uncanny ability to twist public opinion hither thither as you like with chutzpah. cheesy

what was your purpose for mentioning him if not that you are excited to have finally started reading history

Guy, life is possibly a fantasy in your clever world. You are here alluding to history, but you don't know what you don't know. You just unwittingly exposed yourself as a fool and myopic critic subjective in his source appraisal.

what concerns Robin law on Oyo empire with oduduwa in ife?
Also let's be real, you have not read Robin Law
You don't read

If you can ask this question, it's the law of unintended consequence acting on you. Your lies will continually compromise your cover. You are no historian but a mere atheist. undecided

Since this was the post you made earlier but now cleverly panel beating again to fault me after you got the idea of its possible implosive implication. Your maneuvering proofs that you are a lunatic.

You are such a sick narcissist. You can never say yes to anyone as you desperately seek their disgrace, you still finds way to make your fault theirs. But hide as you can, your folly will keep trailing you.

You don't know what you don't know. Whatever you read, if any, you can never understood any beyond your IQ. I won't help you out, go back and read Robin Law.

cheesy

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 6:42am On Jun 20, 2020*

Rejection region in historical hypothesis

Professors of public opinion, tell me why my interpretation of atewonro cannot be any of the following, using extra material resources in your coffers as a trained and practicing historian:

A. Atewonro: one who from prison became sober.

B. One who twist the chain to it's elastic limit.

C. One who from the prison hangs

D. One who press chains to it's weak state.

Whenever you make an intelligent choice, you are discriminating on other options for a reason. Ability to come clean of the options you never choose is what proof your expertise.

Macof and software Generated Yoruba

And macof, twice you have given us lupo for ilu, and tele for te. You are the best in makeover. The same you are the one destroying others inputs.

But you are not wise enough to get it up your head that silebu ni ege oro ti eemi le gbe jade leekan soso. You lack the concept of syllable as a language user, be it English or Yoruba.

You don't have a sense of syllable as the unit of sounds in a word, hence your option is always crested only on the word given and it's meaning from a distance cluster as instance.

You always play safe. It shows you are Yoruba by software too, Yoruba with caution. No examples of variant meaning of a word or each syllable in a Yoruba word treated in dept on their own.

You alluded to linguistics but a failure at it you are. You only excel in temerity, your stock in trade. Your lies are in the open.

Read up rejection region in statistics and apply the same to what you do with public opinion generated conclusion as a "critic".

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Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:33am On Jun 20, 2020

I don't spare a good read for any amount.

My headrest is full of books, my office and everywhere around me.

That's why I think ahead of you and I'm unstoppable to your kind, in spite of your whims and Caprice.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:19am On Jun 20, 2020*

macof:
Still waiting for you to debunk a single piece of information I have dropped

what concerns Robin law on Oyo empire with oduduwa in ife?
Also let's be real, you have not read Robin Law
You don't read

Who needs to debunk folly when it's of no consequence in real life?

Go back and read Robin Law. And here is a book that kept me awake in my library.

Bloody Serpent.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:17am On Jun 20, 2020

macof:
You have seen and responded to that post weeks ago. But it still pains you and you have suddenly gathered energy to execute a fire back in the middle of the night.

You couldn't deal with the correction in my post then, you still can't now

Again you are unable to debunk any information I have presented while I have dismantled many of your nonsense

Boy, you are a bloody liar, if your insult is anything to me I should have stopped long ago. It's all you do.

As a destroyer, should there be anything more to you than polemics?

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:14am On Jun 20, 2020

macof:
I have demonstrated the traditions that can be demonstrated online or in print. For further demonstration you would need to seek the traditional guardian on Oduduwa in Ife. Traditions are after all practical

Your unawareness of the duality of yoruba òrìṣà is evident of your ignorance.
All you know is church stuff not yoruba traditions.

You don't have any clue what Yoruba history entails, get a life bro. You can never have access to the pristine tradition of the Yoruba. You are a stranger.

I got you and here you are pushing your confusion as science. Go back and read Robin Law on Oyo empire and do your research. You are clueless.

All the answers are not in one place as you are meant to believe and make us believe.

Culture › Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by 2prexios: 2:08am On Jun 20, 2020

macof:
You are very silly. You have responded to this post with your other moniker, but you just can't let go of being exposed. Get off yourself and deal with the fact that you have a below average understanding of the Yoruba language and not the linguistic genius you claim to be.
Ebora is Deborah indeed

You are a Fraud and I demonstrate it every time

I have responded to you about Òkè-Ọ̀rà in ife traditions
I am waiting for you to debunk any information I have presented

Infact your argument here is not even about my post being wrong.. Its that I am not the originator
What dah hell is that? How many times would I tell you that history is not creative. You don't originate stories from your imagination.. That's not history you dimwit

You always have problem with the truth.

Ebora=Abraham

Ebora rhymes with Debora

The last time I quoted you was the post you claim to have embarrassed me severally. I know one thing about you, lie lie lie is the in thing in your life. grin

My simple request is that you have claimed to be an historian, but you are clueless about how the very tradition you jumped on emanated in Yoruba history, if you have any clue post it.

Insult and abracadabra man himself. undecided

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