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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:20pm On May 26
Truidstarr:
We take 23 players to a tournament what percentage eventually makes it? About 15%. Many do not adapt, lack resilience and are frustrated due to lack of playing time and dreams they were sold to make it big time. The same percentage that will make it from the academies. Going to an U17 world cup does not guarantee future “high quality” players. People should not make it sound as if when we miss out of an U17 tournament our future is dead. That is a wrong assumption.

No one says our future is dead but we stand a better (not no chance) of raising quality talents with a better managed U17 showing. Especially when replicated over years. Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:21pm On May 26
robosky02:
NFF responsible for U17 failures

How can you appoint a coach less than a month to a major competition

How can you start screening 50 players less than 3 weeks

How can you get them gell as a team

Preparation should have started over one year ago

Now they will blame Manu Garba for the failure when they never started early



We need to go back to national u13, U15 and U17 regional and national competition

That was what produce the like of Kelechi iheanacho ECT we still have his U13 pictures

Players are picked from a team and you bring what you have to the national team. The national team is not where you learn.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:22pm On May 26
charlesemeka85:

Former #Nigeria international midfielder @SeyiOlofinjana joins the growing list of Africans with UEFA Pro licence - the highest coaching qualification in European football.

Olofinjana also holds two master's degrees - as a sports director and a project manager.
These are the kind of guys we should be engaging with our various age grade teams,
guys that understand what is going on in the game,
not this continual recycling of coaches that no longer have anything to offer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:23pm On May 26
mostob:
Chriskel... receipts plenty.

Sorry no vex i no deh buy fake goods, so no receipt required or given.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:24pm On May 26
robosky02:
NFF responsible for U17 failures

How can you appoint a coach less than a month to a major competition

How can you start screening 50 players less than 3 weeks

How can you get them gell as a team

Preparation should have started over one year ago

Now they will blame Manu Garba for the failure when they never started early



We need to go back to national u13, U15 and U17 regional and national competition

That was what produce the like of Kelechi iheanacho ECT we still have his U13 pictures

And we should go back to open screening program. A long selection and screening process to identify genuine gems. Tired of talking.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:26pm On May 26
komekn:


Players are picked from a team and you bring what you have to the national team. The national team is not where you learn.


You can also learn in the national team. Especially at age grade levels. If the NFF have that in mind, they will tailor a long term screening and educational process to develop a top quality U17 side.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by robosky02(m): 12:26pm On May 26
komekn:


Players are picked from a team and you bring what you have to the national team. The national team is not where you learn.




They use to have regional u13 were regions will play till the have the finalist

So from every stage skilful players were picked till the finals

At such we have a pool to blend so before the get to U17 we have more than enough to pick from

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:37pm On May 26
mank1234:
We won't develop our u17 and u21 but when we see u17 and u21 that other countries developed, we start dreaming of luring them over.

The word you should use is synergy.

I am in the system, a lot of Nigerian origin players would choose Nigeria first choice. But we do not create relationships.

I watched Poland invite several boys of 14 from England EPL academies to the U15 national team. They have already started creating relationships.

All expenses paid hotels even one parent to follow each boy.

Racism is alive and well in England and a very good number would choose Nigeria first. Im addition England cannot call all the Nigerian players into the national team. They are not France too many black 🖤 players and there will be a national outcry of discrimination.

There is a EPL Club that sent it's U11 players to the East Mallorca cup all the players were black apart from the goalkeeper. People talk tire.

When Eberechi trained with the national team he had already played first team football for QPR. The could easily have played him in a number of friendlies available but no they did not. They forgot him for 2 years+ plus. When he blow they remembered him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:39pm On May 26
robosky02:




They use to have regional u13 were regions will play till the have the finalist

So from every stage skilful players were picked till the finals

At such we have a pool to blend so before the get to U17 we have more than enough to pick from

But bros that system will not allow the NFF to collect development fee and appreciation bonus and will limit the godfather syndrome rife in the NFF.

Sorry such good intentions open and clear assessment will not WORK.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:41pm On May 26
TheGoodJoe:


You can also learn in the national team. Especially at age grade levels. If the NFF have that in mind, they will tailor a long term screening and educational process to develop a top quality U17 side.

It's a question ❓ of perspective. You can learn from a 2 minute conversation.

But in reality your learning and development takes place in your academy,club and league not in a two week camp 😭.

Sorry 😔 I don't agree with you at all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:46pm On May 26
Truidstarr:
At least out of every 20 sold 5 will make it at least.

Making it is a very very relative term and if you do it by comparison then it becomes more problematic.

Let's say you are playing in Azerbaijan and you make €1500 a week of you compare that to our current fire circumstances which are the worst since Nigeria existed.

That will feel like leaving hell fire 🔥 to heaven 🕊️

But would you say he had made it in football ⚽
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:54pm On May 26
Wow what a run by Rosemary! More impressive is that it's well below the wind limit. Was thinking Ofili would be the next breakout Naija track queen but seems Rosemary is cooking!

Unfortunately our men are still struggling to show potential. One of Brume, Itsekeri etc should try na!

PDPGuy:
🚨🚨

Our women’s 4x100m team is taking shape, and with the form of Favour Ofili, Tima Godbless, and Tobi Amusan, that African record is gonna be broken in Paris!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 12:55pm On May 26
komekn:


Players are picked from a team and you bring what you have to the national team. The national team is not where you learn.

So what is wrong in what he wrote,
That we should not have long time program?
Do u really expect a coach to go win a world cup with less than two months of rushed planning,because u pick them from various clubs?
and this u-17 team we talking about,not some professionals.

You always accuse others of lack of comprehension ,
meanwhile,u are the one who always post like ''he who answereth a matter before he heareth it''

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:58pm On May 26
Why we're not tapping people like him and Emenalo to play a crucial role in the NFF is beyond me.

charlesemeka85:

Former #Nigeria international midfielder @SeyiOlofinjana joins the growing list of Africans with UEFA Pro licence - the highest coaching qualification in European football.

Olofinjana also holds two master's degrees - as a sports director and a project manager.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:06pm On May 26
ChrisKels:


He dun leave the point as usual go dey talk about his so called friend and racism. This boy is too cunning. grin grin
Cunning abi he is silly

And he fit don born o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:10pm On May 26
Your analogy shows how mumuish you are! Inter and Ac milan are "village schools." while United is "Lekki British School"? Mumu! lol!
If you don't understand a post you ask questions.
komekn:


Dude 😎 be reasonable stop this.

It's like saying it's because I went to village school 🎒 and others went to Lekki British school.

That's why I don't know book 📚
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:21pm On May 26
Our men are not struggling oo.
Ashe ran 9:94 two days ago (2nd fastest time this year) to win his heat yesterday with Ajayi running 10:03s SB to place 2nd behind him.
Brume already ran under 10 twice this year. He ran 10:04s two days ago!

Both Ashe and Brume already qualified to the olympics!

We have a new 400m star, Ogazi who ran a SB 44:53s -- 2nd fastest 400m time ever run by a Nigerian.

Our boys are cooking!

Ofili just equally the 150m World Record. She has been unfortunate with this wind bouhaha! Then you have Tima who ran 11:03s yesterday to also qualify for the Olympics just like Chukuma!

chrisooblog:
Wow what a run by Rosemary! More impressive is that it's well below the wind limit. Was thinking Ofili would be the next breakout Naija track queen but seems Rosemary is cooking!

Unfortunately our men are still struggling to show potential. One of Brume, Itsekeri etc should try na!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 1:37pm On May 26
Truidstarr:
Una dey make me laugh..😂 😂😂😂. Academies are selling players every month to clubs abroad. They did not go via the U17 route. Make una relax.
We are not even out yet! If we beat Ghana we can still qualify, however I doubt this team is capable of beating Ghana. The attack and midfield has been a let down! The CBs are the only positive!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nomyth: 1:52pm On May 26
Marjoribanks:
We are not even out yet! If we beat Ghana we can still qualify, however I doubt this team is capable of beating Ghana. The attack and midfield has been a let down! The CBs are the only positive!

But is 8mit impossible for us to beat Cote D'Ivoire at u17 level ni?

They've been getting it over us for sometime now and it is troubling.

As explosive as that 2013 set was, Cote D'Ivoire beat them twice at the u17 AFCON.

We really need to reverse this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:53pm On May 26
Here is the situation regarding the 2024 #WAFCON and the 2025 #AFCON, which, from all indications, will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for @CAF_Online to stage according to schedule:

1. CAF awarded the WAFCON hosting rights to #Morocco in August 2022 - nearly TWO years ago. No serious attempt was made, since that time, to put it in #FIFA’s International match calendar. Tournaments not scheduled in the calendar don’t get played.

2. The 2025 AFCON, also awarded to Morocco in September 2023, has no confirmed date in the same international match calendar.

3. The 2024 WAFCON which was to be played in June/July, cannot take place because of the Olympic football tournament and the 2025 AFCON, also scheduled for June/July, cannot take place because of the FIFA Club World Cup at the same time.

4. When Patrice Motsepe, CAF’s president, met with his member associations in Bangkok, Thailand, on the fringes of the FIFA Congress, he told them that the scheduling of both tournaments “are in FIFA’s hands to decide.”

5. Not only that, Motsepe suggested that the possibility of playing a CHAN-like tournament (a WAFCON without Africa’s players outside of the continent) should be considered

#osasuobayiuwana
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:59pm On May 26
komekn:


The word you should use is synergy.

I am in the system, a lot of Nigerian origin players would choose Nigeria first choice. But we do not create relationships.

I watched Poland invite several boys of 14 from England EPL academies to the U15 national team. They have already started creating relationships.

All expenses paid hotels even one parent to follow each boy.

Racism is alive and well in England and a very good number would choose Nigeria first. Im addition England cannot call all the Nigerian players into the national team. They are not France too many black 🖤 players and there will be a national outcry of discrimination.

There is a EPL Club that sent it's U11 players to the East Mallorca cup all the players were black apart from the goalkeeper. People talk tire.

When Eberechi trained with the national team he had already played first team football for QPR. The could easily have played him in a number of friendlies available but no they did not. They forgot him for 2 years+ plus. When he blow they remembered him.


Let me ask you this.. whose responsibility is it to comply a list of invited players for a competition? Is it the coach or the football administration?
I'm asking this because you're always quick to attack the NFF when there are issues with players call up .. yet, many have opined that the NFF should allow the coach have a free hand in selection.
With respect to Eze, you keep hammering on the fact that he was dropped..u make it sound like he was dumped, yet u forgot that Aina who was part of that training camp was eventually called up...
The person u should be attacking for us missing out on Eze is Gernot Rohr.. maybe u didn't pay attention back then, but Rohr never considered the midfield a priority when he was in charge, hence he kept calling up the same crop of midfielders everytime.. it even took long before he started playing Iwobi in midfield...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:02pm On May 26
charlesemeka85:
Here is the situation regarding the 2024 #WAFCON and the 2025 #AFCON, which, from all indications, will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for @CAF_Online to stage according to schedule:

1. CAF awarded the WAFCON hosting rights to #Morocco in August 2022 - nearly TWO years ago. No serious attempt was made, since that time, to put it in #FIFA’s International match calendar. Tournaments not scheduled in the calendar don’t get played.

2. The 2025 AFCON, also awarded to Morocco in September 2023, has no confirmed date in the same international match calendar.

3. The 2024 WAFCON which was to be played in June/July, cannot take place because of the Olympic football tournament and the 2025 AFCON, also scheduled for June/July, cannot take place because of the FIFA Club World Cup at the same time.

4. When Patrice Motsepe, CAF’s president, met with his member associations in Bangkok, Thailand, on the fringes of the FIFA Congress, he told them that the scheduling of both tournaments “are in FIFA’s hands to decide.”

5. Not only that, Motsepe suggested that the possibility of playing a CHAN-like tournament (a WAFCON without Africa’s players outside of the continent) should be considered

#osasuobayiuwana

CAF is a very confused entity... They had two years to come up with a date for the WAFCON, but they kept stalling until they couldn't find where to fit it in..

As for the AFCON, I don't understand why they dont want to shift it to a four year tournament.. Since 2013, the tourny hasn't been properly organized.. venues and date of hosting keep changing... It's starting to become a joke...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 2:02pm On May 26
komekn:


The word you should use is synergy.

I am in the system, a lot of Nigerian origin players would choose Nigeria first choice. But we do not create relationships.

I watched Poland invite several boys of 14 from England EPL academies to the U15 national team. They have already started creating relationships.

All expenses paid hotels even one parent to follow each boy.

Racism is alive and well in England and a very good number would choose Nigeria first. Im addition England cannot call all the Nigerian players into the national team. They are not France too many black 🖤 players and there will be a national outcry of discrimination.

There is a EPL Club that sent its U11 players to the East Mallorca cup all the players were black apart from the goalkeeper. People talk tire.

When Eberechi trained with the national team he had already played first team football for QPR. The could easily have played him in a number of friendlies available but no they did not. They forgot him for 2 years+ plus. When he blow they remembered him.



Like the way they suddenly remembered Lookman, funny people
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 2:06pm On May 26
Danielnino00:


CAF is a very confused entity... They had two years to come up with a date for the WAFCON, but they kept stalling until they couldn't find where to fit it in..

As for the AFCON, I don't understand why they dont want to shift it to a four year tournament.. Since 2013, the tourny hasn't been properly organized.. venues and date of hosting keep changing... It's starting to become a joke...

We need Afcon to remain a biennial event for now, there will be a level Afcon will hit then the case of making it every four years will suffice but for now the economic impacts of Afcon on a disadvantaged continent cannot be ignored
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 2:12pm On May 26
TheGoodJoe:


Since 2012 to date, we have won the EPL 8 times, FA Cup 3 times, EFL Cup 4 times, Champions League 1, UEFA Super Cup 1 and World Club Cup 1. Losing an FA Cup final will not give us an atom of worries. Manchester United can celebrate, while we look forward.

Finito.
You won all these with frauds. Don't sweep the main point aside. Your club na fraud!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 2:15pm On May 26
robosky02:
NFF responsible for U17 failures

How can you appoint a coach less than a month to a major competition

How can you start screening 50 players less than 3 weeks

How can you get them gell as a team

Preparation should have started over one year ago

Now they will blame Manu Garba for the failure when they never started early



We need to go back to national u13, U15 and U17 regional and national competition

That was what produce the like of Kelechi iheanacho ECT we still have his U13 pictures
Even with the best of the best, the outcome wouldn't have been different.

The whole tourney is too shambolic. Like these boys played on Thursday and still played on Saturday ... In a 7 team tourney? Let's not even talk about the pitch.

We all know those NFF people are incompetent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 2:22pm On May 26
komekn:


Sorry no vex i no deh buy fake goods, so no receipt required or given.
You no need to buy fake goods because na you dey sell the fake goods. grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:28pm On May 26
chrisooblog:
Why we're not tapping people like him and Emenalo to play a crucial role in the NFF is beyond me.

Seyi Olofinjana is NFF ambassador of Nigeria youth league which involves academies in Nigeria....Mike Emenalo doesn't relate with Nigeria much,apart from being member of US 94 team and thanks to Iroha injury,nobody would have remembered him for anything.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:38pm On May 26
Thing is the men tend to fizzle out when it matters most.

9.94 is nice but when you have Americans, Jamaicans and that Kenyan dude running 9.8 times for fun you know we haven't really started yet.

Yeah Ogazi really excites me don't think he's 20 yet.

However looking realistically at our track and field chances at the Paris Olympics can't see beyond Tobi and maybe Ese (hasn't jumped enough above the 7 metre mark consistently to convince me)
Marjoribanks:
Our men are not struggling oo.
Ashe ran 9:94 two days ago (2nd fastest time this year) to win his heat yesterday with Ajayi running 10:03s SB to place 2nd behind him.
Brume already ran under 10 twice this year. He ran 10:04s two days ago!

Both Ashe and Brume already qualified to the olympics!

We have a new 400m star, Ogazi who ran a SB 44:53s -- 2nd fastest 400m time ever run by a Nigerian.

Our boys are cooking!

Ofili just equally the 150m World Record. She has been unfortunate with this wind bouhaha! Then you have Tima who ran 11:03s yesterday to also qualify for the Olympics just like Chukuma!

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:43pm On May 26
Ok but I think Olofinjana needs a more significant role than a vague ambassador position. Emenalo has shown himself to be a reasonably competent football administrator from his time with Chelsea, Monaco and now Saudi Arabia. He discovered some decent talent no reason we can't tap from his expertise.

Kog45:
Seyi Olofinjana is NFF ambassador of Nigeria youth league which involves academies in Nigeria....Mike Emenalo doesn't relate with Nigeria much,apart from being member of US 94 team and thanks to Iroha injury,nobody would have remembered him for anything.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Darell2002(f): 2:59pm On May 26
Marjoribanks:
Osimhen will remain in Napoli next season. No offer yet!

No wonder Napoli President dey vex for Victor in one of his intterview! lol!
Agreed to pay Vic 10m annually with the hope of getting 120m in return. Huge gamble that might not pay off.

Osimhen will get 20m in two years and leave for free next summer! lol

He thought he is smart rejecting several offers for Vic last summer now offer don dry up. lol!
Many top teams spent big on strikers last summer and not willing to spend a lot on another this summer!

He has been played by a Naija boy!
You think Napoli president is dumb before accepting that offer


Offers will come
Osimhen is leaving this summer


His contact doesn't end next summer
It's ends 2026
ADL can't pay osimhen 30m
Na pure business man be that
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 3:14pm On May 26
Darell2002:
You think Napoli president is dumb before accepting that offer


Offers will come
Osimhen is leaving this summer


His contact doesn't end next summer
It's ends 2026
ADL can't pay osimhen 30m
Na pure business man be that

Even smart people make bad deals. It happens in business, you win some and lose some. BTW, no one is even saying he will lose, just that he won't be getting as much as he would have last summer. So he has 2 options really z either sell Victor for significantly lesser than h me would have (except by some miracle a club is willing to splash this summer) or he keeps him and pays his significantly higher wage with one year left in his contract by next summer. Either ways, Victor came out the winner here.

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