CyberWolf:
I understand.. These Northerners can be very annoying sometimes.. That's how their leaders, youths and all of them think. Causing problem everywhere round the country. 90% of Nigeria's problem is from north, diseases, poverty, illiteracy, violence, terrorism, etc, are all from North.. Why?

CyberWolf:
I understand.. These Northerners can be very annoying sometimes.. That's how their leaders, youths and all of them think. Causing problem everywhere round the country. 90% of Nigeria's problem is from north, diseases, poverty, illiteracy, violence, terrorism, etc, are all from North.. Why?

fiizznation:
Everybody knew that Fulani herdsmen kidnapped the respected elderly statesman, chief olu falae. There were pictorial and video evidences. The culprits were also interviewed. I believed that story and I know my brothers did it. The Ogun incident too came with a lot of evidences that Fulani herdsmen were involved.

But this particular nimba uzo incident is very ludicrous. The entire thing looks like some kind of acting. Fulani people don't roam around that area with their cattle(I have evidences). The reports were clashing with one another. Vanguard knew about the attack even before it happened and they didn't report it to DSS, army etc. How could 500 later 50 herdsmen attack a community without any provocation?

fiizznation:
You can bring any kind of evidence you wish to bring of Fulani herdsmen activities in your region, I mean anything. Look here my friend, I spend about 6 good hours of my time understanding the demography of the southeast and the grazing fields of Fulani herdsmen in southern Nigeria. All I ever wanted was for any of you to debunk my findings but unfortunately you guys are not doing that, instead you all have resorted to name callings.

Insults is not my thing please and I detest it, you lots can have a nice day since you can't debunk my findings

fiizznation:
The entire Fulani herdsmen attacking a community for no just reason doesn't make an iota of sense. Furthermore, I was able to identify the major grazing fields for the Fulani cattle in Nigeria. And the southeast is not on that list, meaning Fulani herdsmen rarely take their cows to the eastern part of this country. Borno state is the number one grazing destination for Fulani herdsmen. So I challenge anybody from Enugu or southeastern Nigeria to just show me one picture of Fulani herdsmen grazing in their lands.

fiizznation:
You can bring any kind of evidence you wish to bring of Fulani herdsmen activities in your region, I mean anything. Look here my friend, I spend about 6 good hours of my time understanding the demography of the southeast and the grazing fields of Fulani herdsmen in southern Nigeria. All I ever wanted was for any of you to debunk my findings but unfortunately you guys are not doing that, instead you all have resorted to name callings.

Insults is not my thing please and I detest it, you lots can have a nice day since you can't debunk my findings

nonjebose:
Clearly you know nothing about education. You clearly took a stand with a position that is an "exception". The three Cs fall flat in the face of an evidential and discovery process. Mind you, no where have these analyses been proven to negate the superority of discovery learning. Read up my other posts on this matter, then you will learn why your analysis is faulty

Kennydoc:


If I post pictures of Fulani cattle herders grazing their cattle in Benue for example, how will he know it isn't from the south east? His posts are really illogical. That assertion is very crazy.
I'm from the south east, and I know these herders and their cattle abound in my community and those surrounding mine.

How can you do an internet research about an issue going on in Nigeria, and claim you've done a research? Even in the field of medicine for example, there are very limited data emanating from Nigeria, for numerous cases and conditions. How much more something as unspecific as cattle grazing?

When he carried out his research, didn't he see reports in the national dailies about different confrontations between villagers in the south east and cattle herders? Why weren't those reports adequate for him?

It's actually stupid saying that Fulani herders don't graze their cattle in the SE. Such a statement doesn't deserve a response. If only he attempted to do even the least of field research, he would never have made that useless assertion.
How can he claim that Borno is the main grazing land for the cattle. Do they also graze in Borno between November and March when almost the whole North is dry and green leaves can barely be seen?

For your information, these guys graze not just grasses but anything green. The reason farmers often have clashes with them is that they often take their cattle into farmlands and destroy crops. As a result, some farmers engage them in a fight and in the process, some of their cattle may be killed (or stolen). The killing of villagers often happen in retaliation of the killing (and occasionally stealing) of their cattle.

cc Fizznation

fiizznation:
Now I'm heartless just because I want to know what actually transpired in nimba community. Wow. Well get this into your head; not everybody believed whatever junky reports that your junky Nigeria press feed you, some of us do carryout our own findings to know the real issue. And I'm sorry if I sounded anti-eastern Nigeria to you. I'm not. I didn't even vote buhari nor Jonathan in the last election. I always want to know the truth of a matter before I swallow it down my throat. This is the 21st century and things are usually done in a civilize manner, and not the usual nigeria way which is sentiments,religion, region and ethnic group

greenpasture:


You show the true marks of education. The ability to take a position based on research and not Mob psychology. Well done!

LecciGucci:


exactly. .. bro u can imaging .
and to think thier governors with still stand and defend this act is unimaginable

fiizznation:
The entire Fulani herdsmen attacking a community for no just reason doesn't make an iota of sense. Furthermore, I was able to identify the major grazing fields for the Fulani cattle in Nigeria. And the southeast is not on that list, meaning Fulani herdsmen rarely take their cows to the eastern part of this country. Borno state is the number one grazing destination for Fulani herdsmen. So I challenge anybody from Enugu or southeastern Nigeria to just show me one picture of Fulani herdsmen grazing in their lands.

CyberWolf:
That's why sometimes I laugh at people that preach civility while dealing with this people. They don't understand peaceful language. They only language they understand is FORCE.. When they come for you physically, attack them back with every force you have. When they attack you virtually like this via social media, attack them back and while doing, don't be civil at all, go very hard on them. But once you started forming apostle of peace, you are doomed because they will kill,maim and make sure they eliminate your entire generation. Very very wicked and inhumane set of people.

greenpasture:


Maybe you should read what he wrote again and find if some of the elements of research have been satisfied. You cannot rule out the value of research simply because it is done at a desk level. For some situations these are the only options available

If I ask my son to do research on waterfalls in nigeria would you expect him to go and physically visit all waterfalls in nigeria?

We are talking about a ten line contribution to NL here and not a term paper or masters dissertation. What I congratulated the writer for was that unlike those who simply spew out their prejudice here on NL he at least took some effort to get to an informed position. He might not have all the answers, he might not even be right but I laud his process.

Much better than the write first think later so common these days.

rusher14:
Fizznation has spoken like an intelligent, logical thinker.

What he says might hurt but he hits home.

This is 2016. We are all chatting on mobile phones usually with embedded cameras.

He demands proof of herdsmen grazing their herds in these communities.

He claims the vegetation is not of the quality that might attract cows and sees no reason why these herdsmen would be in these communities in the first place.

Surely, we aren't barbarians in Nigeria. We cannot abandon the scientific, logical approach to problem solving.

Can we look beyond sentiments and provide proof?

fiizznation:
Suspected herdsmen!!! Now the question is; why would any "herdsmen" just wake up one morning and start killing innocent people indiscriminately even without any provocation? From this report, one can clearly see that the herdsmen and the community have never had any clash, no herdsmen/farmers clash was ever reported. I googled and studied the demography of that nimba uzo community yesterday, and I couldn't even see any place were a single cow can graze. The grasses over their were not the type of grass the average Fulani cattle will eat.

Anyway after I did my little research, I sent my work to the appropriate person. Like I always said, this "invincible herdsmen" story must be unveiled. And the truth will speak at last.


MODIFIED*


Just like I anticipated. No proof whatsoever but everyone has resorted to insults. Someone even said that he just passed some Fulani herdsmen in Enugu. I mean the same Enugu that many people came here to tell anybody that cares to listen that "all Fulani herdsmen" have abdicated some few days ago. Why are people contradicting themselves for goodness sake?

Anyway why did the moderator changed the real heading of this thread? Very funny. Initially I thought some logical minds will counter my claims, but I guess I underestimated the thinking and reasoning capacity of some people. Fulani herdsmen might have committed one atrocious act or another in the past, but this latest claim that Fulani herdsmen ransacked nimba community is what I will never believe until I'm shown concrete evidence. But for the meantime, whatever anybody say is just hearsay and I will never take such reports any serious. Fulani herdsmen are not invincible for crying out loud. I'm sorry if I didn't sound like the average typical Nigerian to you people, but facts{thats if there's any}shouldnt be fictionalized

fiizznation:
Me residing in London or Jupiter is not the issue here. What I want from you is to show me any evidence of Fulani herdsmen roaming around with their cattle in your region. Let's do away with all the names calling here my friend. I believe we are trying to educate one another here.

fiizznation:
The entire Fulani herdsmen attacking a community for no just reason doesn't make an iota of sense. Furthermore, I was able to identify the major grazing fields for the Fulani cattle in Nigeria. And the southeast is not on that list, meaning Fulani herdsmen rarely take their cows to the eastern part of this country. Borno state is the number one grazing destination for Fulani herdsmen. So I challenge anybody from Enugu or southeastern Nigeria to just show me one picture of Fulani herdsmen grazing in their lands.

fiizznation:
Everybody knew that Fulani herdsmen kidnapped the respected elderly statesman, chief olu falae. There were pictorial and video evidences. The culprits were also interviewed. I believed that story and I know my brothers did it. The Ogun incident too came with a lot of evidences that Fulani herdsmen were involved.

But this particular nimba uzo incident is very ludicrous. The entire thing looks like some kind of acting. Fulani people don't roam around that area with their cattle(I have evidences). The reports were clashing with one another. Vanguard knew about the attack even before it happened and they didn't report it to DSS, army etc. How could 500 later 50 herdsmen attack a community without any provocation?

molydonhenry:
Wat r u insinuating? dat d herdsmen exist only in stories

tobiasbeecher:

If sounding so stupid and foolish is a sign of education, then I'm afraid you yourself has wasted a whole lot of resources and time to get education (if actually you're educated) or whatever. I said this because nobody with a good head will support that nitwit's claim if such a person is not a nitwit himself. I don't know who you're, but you appear to me as someone who is very slow and incapable of rational thinking!

fiizznation:
Suspected herdsmen!!! Now the question is; why would any "herdsmen" just wake up one morning and start killing innocent people indiscriminately even without any provocation? From this report, one can clearly see that the herdsmen and the community have never had any clash, no herdsmen/farmers clash was ever reported. I googled and studied the demography of that nimba uzo community yesterday, and I couldn't even see any place were a single cow can graze. The grasses over their were not the type of grass the average Fulani cattle will eat.

Anyway after I did my little research, I sent my work to the appropriate person. Like I always said, this "invincible herdsmen" story must be unveiled. And the truth will speak at last.


MODIFIED*


Just like I anticipated. No proof whatsoever but everyone has resorted to insults. Someone even said that he just passed some Fulani herdsmen in Enugu. I mean the same Enugu that many people came here to tell anybody that cares to listen that "all Fulani herdsmen" have abdicated some few days ago. Why are people contradicting themselves for goodness sake?

Anyway why did the moderator changed the real heading of this thread? Very funny. Initially I thought some logical minds will counter my claims, but I guess I underestimated the thinking and reasoning capacity of some people. Fulani herdsmen might have committed one atrocious act or another in the past, but this latest claim that Fulani herdsmen ransacked nimba community is what I will never believe until I'm shown concrete evidence. But for the meantime, whatever anybody say is just hearsay and I will never take such reports any serious. Fulani herdsmen are not invincible for crying out loud. I'm sorry if I didn't sound like the average typical Nigerian to you people, but facts{thats if there's any}shouldnt be fictionalized

Ngozi123:


But there are pictures circulating on the net of people who have died/injured by the attacks- is that enough proof for you. As for your point about Vanguard knowing about the attacks before it happened, well, so did the Nigerian government but they did nothing about it as usual. You seem to have an agenda here...

fiizznation:
You can bring any kind of evidence you wish to bring of Fulani herdsmen activities in your region, I mean anything. Look here my friend, I spend about 6 good hours of my time understanding the demography of the southeast and the grazing fields of Fulani herdsmen in southern Nigeria. All I ever wanted was for any of you to debunk my findings but unfortunately you guys are not doing that, instead you all have resorted to name callings.

Insults is not my thing please and I detest it, you lots can have a nice day since you can't debunk my findings

TreasureTayo:
Lol. I pirry that guy o. Chai.