sooperrescue:
I am not against our made in naija oils. In fact we dont have made in naija oils except the visco that you use. These companies have and r and d unit and if I want to provide oil for a market, I should look for the one that will suit the market. Peugeot recommends Total oil but that oil recommended by Peugeot does not exist in Nigeria. So people use the Total oil that is available and it destroys the engines. Toyota USA recommends 0w20 for the engines and for all weather, all weather and you bring it to Naija and use 20w50. Unless you dont trust the manufacturer, then follow your mechanic. I once used Oando SM20w50 api sl on my range rover sport and the wahala I had made Oando staff to admonish me for using that oil. People are buying engines all the time and we have not bothered to find out the root cause. It was PAN engineer that told me to inform people to use Mobil 1 esp for the new generation of Peugeot cars but meanwhile the sticker recommending Total is still on the car. The oils sold by Total in France, it is not available in Nigeria. There are classifications of oil and if you can check Honda and Toyota, they want you to use 0w20. Is it available locally? Why cant Oando produce 0w20 since the current cars requires the oil? It is only recently they brought out 5w30 when even a honda accord 09 requires 5w20. Are they for us or against us? I told Forte oil manager to put a caveat informing motorists the Visco 2000 is an api sl and not suitable for cars above 2004, he said it is not possible. Mobil said that they are selling those oils because Nigerians are poor and they cant afford the right oils for their cars. You did not see me holding a gun to force anyone not to buy obsolete oils but do not say no one told you.

dollarnaira:


Who on earth did not know dat engine oil lubricates but all u could pick up is 40 degrees.Guy u amazed me.Can i ask if your siena was bought new?

nurey:


then stop saying what you don't know. my sienna was bought with 300k km, I have been using MRS 5W40 since it was bought and my engine still steams in the morning.

use the recommended manufacturer oil nd have peace of mind, my engine oil is always golden brown even after using it for 8k km or 6months.

sooperrescue:

Honestly I have not seen that oil. The last time I went there, I saw that they sell 20w50 api Sm which was the highest in its category. I will look for the oil. The last time I really fancied that brand was when it was Twxaco. As at 2008, they were the only one selling dexron 111 imported from Belgium. But sadly MR left and abandoned MRS, it is a sad story to tell

dollarnaira:


Bros are u saying cars below 2004 can use 20w50?

thebigkendo:


Bros Contradiction!!!!!

dollarnaira:
From nissan manual.Get your manual too.

nurey:


then stop saying what you don't know. my sienna was bought with 300k km, I have been using MRS 5W40 since it was bought and my engine still steams in the morning.

use the recommended manufacturer oil nd have peace of mind, my engine oil is always golden brown even after using it for 8k km or 6months.

nurey:



the dextron 3 you talked about was the texaco texamatic 1075e or there about which I have been running in my sienna for 2 years or less now unfortunately it's not available again they now have their own branded dextron 3 which I can't verify the quality

dollarnaira:


So now u can say "recommended" am out jor.See d chart above by nissan.So dont condemn SAE 20w50 if it is d recommended oil of another branded car/vehicle.Ok?

nurey:


not really, when selecting engine oil, the first number in the series is most importnt, the number after the W is relative.
toyota say recommends 5W30 and I utilize 5W40, I m still highly on track.

dollarnaira:
From nissan manual.Get your manual too.

thebigkendo:


Hahaha funny you.. still another contradiction... Toyota actually recommends 5w-30 or 10w-30 for your sienna... 5w-30 is different from 5w-40. Even though difference might not be much, but difference still dey and the fact that's you use it & all is fine.. Doesn't make it the right oil.. I use 5w-30 instead of 5w-20 on my Honda.. But I will not argue or tell anybody 5w-30 is the recommended oil.
Exactly

thebigkendo:


Hahaha funny you.. still another contradiction... Toyota actually recommends 5w-30 or 10w-30 for your sienna... 5w-30 is different from 5w-40. Even though difference might not be much, but difference still dey and the fact that's you use it & all is fine.. Doesn't make it the right oil.. I use 5w-30 instead of 5w-20 on my Honda.. But I will not argue or tell anybody 5w-30 is the recommended oil.


You are right. 5w30 is not the same as 5w40. There is the sticker \ gasoline cars only/ and energy conserving which you will never find on a 5w40. 5w40 can be used for diesel and gasoline engines and as such does not have the same characteristics as the 5w30

thebigkendo:


Hahaha funny you.. still another contradiction... Toyota actually recommends 5w-30 or 10w-30 for your sienna... 5w-30 is different from 5w-40. Even though difference might not be much, but difference still dey and the fact that's you use it & all is fine.. Doesn't make it the right oil.. I use 5w-30 instead of 5w-20 on my Honda.. But I will not argue or tell anybody 5w-30 is the recommended oil.

dollarnaira:
The charts above say it all
Temperature region matters a lot too in choosing oil.
Nigeria temperature cannot freeze our oil.It is only applicable to cold countries.Note pls

dollarnaira:
The charts above say it all
Temperature region matters a lot too in choosing oil.
Nigeria temperature cannot freeze our oil.It is only applicable to cold countries.Note pls

thebigkendo:


Are you related to Dancok or legalwealth ??

dollarnaira:


Meaning?

nurey:


no oil shortage anymore, the Mobil is 4L while the MRS is 5L.

the problem I think might be him, he pours all 4L into the engine leaving no room for expansion. I have told him several times but he won't listen.

the oil was seeping from externally through top seals but has been fixed.

dollarnaira:


Please wat is d implication of filling up engine oil with all 4L?

nurey:


his vehicle is a 4cylinder engine and total engine oil volume is 3.5 to 3.8L depends on oil change/replacement used, when you over fill and oil becomes hot, it expands hence more pressure on cylinder walls (in this case engine walls) after math is oil leakage through external seals

nurey:


no oil shortage anymore, the Mobil is 4L while the MRS is 5L.

the problem I think might be him, he pours all 4L into the engine leaving no room for expansion. I have told him several times but he won't listen.

the oil was seeping from externally through top seals but has been fixed.

nurey:


his vehicle is a 4cylinder engine and total engine oil volume is 3.5 to 3.8L depends on oil change/replacement used, when you over fill and oil becomes hot, it expands hence more pressure on cylinder walls (in this case engine walls) after math is oil leakage through external seals

thebigkendo:




I think his problem was somewhere else, 4L engine oil is not overfilling for 7th gen Accord, I use the same Honda and the according to the user manual, the engine oil capacity is 4.2L.. i am assuming oil change is with oil filter..
I use around 4.4 - 4.5quart(4.25L) when servicing mine and it guages at a little below the Max line

dollarnaira:


Thanks bro.So indirectly d oil leakages through the external seals will eventually STOP as soon as excess oil leaves right?

nurey:


is yours drive by wire? because from manufcturer stats the engine oil capacity is 4.2 I think he uses 5L instead becaause at cold sef the guage is always above the maximum mark

nurey:


no, continous oil leaks as the oil isn't stable, it will continue to leak from there until the seal is fixed.