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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 12:01pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
@ Op so far you are right. Deut chp 14 vs 29 is what i practice and abide with. God has finally revealed the same message to both of us 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Emulti(m): 12:01pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
petra1: Do you know what is means to be a levite? (1) A levite is wholely dedicated to the service of God (2) A levite must be from the tribe of Levi, even Jesus Christ was not qualified to collect tithe while on earth because he was not from the tribe of Levi. (3) Levites do not own landed properties, houses, businesses or investments because God is their inheritance. Now, which Nigerian pastor is qualified to replace the levite and collect tithe from Christians? If tithing was that important, why didn't Jesus Christ who is our perfect example teach us to practice it. The early church did not practice it, even the apostles did not write in any of their epistles about it. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by topsam1(m): 12:02pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Joavid: As in really educative and devoid of usual insults...to be sincere I've learnt a lot today 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by BuddhaPalm(m): 12:04pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
ilynem: "God" also gave lots of "rules" in the Old Testament. I'm sure you're still bound by all of them. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by southpole: 12:04pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
kolaish:You don't need to type in capital letters it is call shouting online. we can still see your message even in lower case 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by seunmsg(m): 12:04pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
DeKen: The pastors you pay tithe to in Nigeria, are they livites? The pastors you pay tithe to in Nigeria, do they own and inherit lands? Do their children inherit their church after them? The pastors you pay tithe to in Nigeria, do they perform the service of the Tent of Meeting (tabernacle)? Is the levitical order of priesthood still in existence in Christianity? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by pennywys(m): 12:08pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
DeKen:God bless you |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
ilynem: Stipulating a percentage of income demands a minimum payment as benchmark . Get a better understanding of compulsion. When you give all your income(100%) or any amount with a happy heart then that is not compulsion. Have you noticed that Africans and African Americans are the greatest tithers and remain the most economically disadvantaged people. Do the maths. God does not bless you because of your tithe or is there any devourer that will take your blessing for not tithing. The devourer will have power to visit you for not tithing love or sowing love but For preaching hate and inciting violence against the teaching of Christ. He blesses you for your sacrifice which he may also choose to reject like Cain's. Other races are making sacrifices for the advancement of mankind and they have their nations as proof. See Africa. God cursed it no doubt for things like brother ripping brother off in his name. I used to be a tither. Check my old posts where I preached that people should tithe. I have seen the light. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by abbeyty(m): 12:16pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
keeping giving your hard earn money to those your overfed pastors in the name of tithe while some of you can't help your neighbors who are really in need of help 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by ndcide(m): 12:17pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Stingy people. Naturally, human beings find it difficult to give. Giving is painful that's why it should be a thing done with love. God gave his only son. What can you give to God. It is in giving that you receive. No man receive anything except it is given him. The world don't want those who are children of God to have anything. They don't want the church to be rich, You see Christians are now rich. They are able to own media houses which helps is spreading the gospel. Diluting the effects of evil programs from the media house. The enemy stole the schools. Immorality was planted. God helped the Christians, they now own schools cultism and other vices are finding it difficult to thrive. Christian are building industries. The enemy has found the way to attack this. THE OBJECTIVE : TO TAKE WEALTH AWAY FROM CHRISTIANS. When they question every form of giving, they stop giving, then wealth is taken away. They think it's the pastors that are poor. NO!!!!!!!. They question why we should give to build churches etc. When we don't build churches, the devil will build demonic and sin camps. The enemy knows the truth and desperately wants this wealth exchange. WHEN I HAPPENS, JUST LIKE THE STORY OF THE PHILISTINES AND THE ISRAELITE WHO WENT TO SHARPEN THEIR SWORDS IN THE CAMP OF THE ENEMY. Christians do not allow the devil succeed with wealth exchange through anti giving campaigns. A word is enough for the wise. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by deolu2000(m): 12:19pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Inasmuch the Bible states that the tithes should be paid to the levites, it is wisdom to obey the words of God, why is it that we contend with giving to God but are quick to claim abrahamic blessings and other blessings of God? The truth is that, nobody will force you to do what you don't believe in but know that it's a two way thing. "give and it shall be given unto you", thats a simple ideology abt God that i know has never n will never change of fail. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by fortunejum: 12:19pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Now, do we pay tithe from our basic salary or from the net pay (including allowances)? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by dyabman(m): 12:20pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Make una just dey carry another person headache about just to justify your confused soul about TITHE.
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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by seguno2: 12:24pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
fortunejum: Can you read? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by kolaish(m): 12:25pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
southpole:YES OF COURSE, I TYPED IT ON CAPITAL TO SHOUT IT/EMPHASIZE ON IT. STOP BRINGING ISSUES OF TITHE AND PAY MORE ATTENTION TO MORE SERIOUS ISSUES. IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED MORE THAN ENOUGH IN D PAST BY NAIRALANDERS. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by DeKen: 12:27pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
seunmsg:1 Corinthians 9:7-14New International Version (NIV) 7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink the milk? 8 Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.”[a] Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. 11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ. 13 Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? 14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by toposa(m): 12:31pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
ilynem:remember this people Jesus was addressing were strictly under the law of moses |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by DeKen: 12:38pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
CecyAdrian:1 Corinthians 9:7-14New International Version (NIV) 7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat its grapes? Who tends a flock and does not drink the milk? 8 Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.”[a] Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he? Yes, this was written for us, because whoever plows and threshes should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. 11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ. 13 Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? 14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 12:40pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Enasuarez: Lol, here come the typical Nigerian pastor so what about those rich people that are not Christians or do not know the meaning of tithe. And also what about the Christians who tithe regularly but are still poor or struggling with one hardship or the other?? You need help with this kind of mindset. You better read your bible well and stop listening to a con men
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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Temmie147(m): 12:44pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Tithes means a tenth or 10 percent. The tithes system described in the bible was designed specifically to meet the needs of the religious, economics and political system of ancient Israel. Each of the twelve tribes of Israel, except the tribe of levi, initially received an allotment of land in the promised land of canaan. The levites were assistants to Israel's priest and were supported by a tithe offering from other eleven tribes. All families of those eleven tribes were to give a tenth of all produce, flocks, and cattle to the levites. In turn, the levites were to give a tenth of that to support the priests.(Leviticus 27: 30-33. Numbers 18: 21-23) Tithes were also used to meet the needs of foreigners, orphans and widows. (Deuteronomy 26:12-13) The Question is will I recive blessings if I give a donation or seed money to a church or ministry? No. There is no requirement in the bible to give "seed money to a church,preacher or ministry, and no promise that any wealth or other blessings of any kind will come as a result. Verses like matthew 13:1-19 and 2 corinthians 9:6-11 are sometimes cited to support request for seed money or other donations, but the blessings promised here are spiritual blessings, not material blessings. The bible does urge us to be generous with our wealth and time. However, any claim that wealth, health, good fortune or blessings will come as a result of a donation should be looked at with suspicion. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 12:47pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
DeKen: Was there anywhere in those scriptures you quoted it was stated that we should pay tithe to them?? Definitely those who preach the gospel are entitled to anything given for the gospel, be it offering or gift. But are we supposed to pay tithe to them? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Sibrah: 12:47pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
CecyAdrian:That verse you quoted ends with "These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone". It tells you tithe is a must because you are not suppose to leave the others(tithe inclusive) undone. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by seunmsg(m): 12:49pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
DeKen: Nice try but you did not answer any of my questions. In fulfilment of the part in bold, did Jesus Christ or any of his disciples collect tithe from their followers during their ministration on earth? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by fortunejum: 12:51pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
seguno2:Professor ,Stay clear from my post. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Sibrah: 12:51pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
CecyAdrian:I disagree . . . |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 12:52pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Junia:Oga stop confusing yourself with all these under law and not under law. Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek, Job paid tithe also, they were obeying God and during their days there were no law, law started during the era of moses. Don't use because of the attitude of the gullible multitude to disobey God period. I was using this law thing as a defence to my stupidity until I understood well. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 12:52pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Emulti: Good question!! Some members even boast of the G.O's owing oil wells |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 12:54pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Sibrah: Why? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 12:58pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
ndcide: What are you even saying?? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by benjsniper33: 12:58pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
petra1: Bros tithe is tithe. So far its one- tenth of your gain or your yield. All tithes are sacred and should be given to God either through feeding the needy, widows, sick or helping in building the house of God. Also tithe can be weekly, monthly, yearly, bi-anually or perennially depending on the time when your harvest or yield comes. We have only one God , he passes his messages in different ways but he means just one simple thing TITHE IS TITHE BROS! |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by seunfly: 1:00pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
ilynem:But the rule of God did not specify that you must pay it to pastor, it says the levite, the fatherless, the widow and the stranger. In a nutshell, all this group has equal and same right to it. Why give it to pastor only? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 1:02pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
Sibrah: But it's not the most important. Moreover did Jesus and his disciples who were equally preachers of the gospel ever demand for tithe? They survived on gifts that their members gave them, they never demanded for tithe. 1 Like |
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