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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 1:38pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
Emusan:What about if i say 'i'm already a born again Christian'? So what the spirit tells me about being a Christian is in my mind and according to your analogy it's not compulsory it must be the same with yours. I believe in the interpretation of the spirit in me just as you too are convinced of the spirit in you. And this doesn't mean you should start calling JWs to come and verify what i say since you said it shouldn't be a group thing! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 3:11pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:O kare Maximus! I too am a born again Christian and nobody there question whatever the holy spirit tells me because it is the spirit of God. So my understanding of the scriptures is 100% correct now that i am a born again Christian. No more arguments! 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 3:23pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
TATIME:Abi o brother mi! Tani o mo ogbon on kaf'eran s'enu kod'awati? Awon Ode ati Oponu Olodo dede! After all it's not compulsory my idea must coincide with that of any group as long as i claim to be born again and the holy spirit is ministering to me. Do you know brother that even this morning, the Lord ate fried chicken on vegetable soup and Ofada rice with me? And you don't need to believe me Sir because i'm also your born again brother. Hallelujah! 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:20pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
Maximus69:Halleluyah simbarry 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:57pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
TATIME:Halleluyah jare! 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:14pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
Maximus69: lying pharisee false jw max laugh, only you are concerned about me being old enough to be a granpa but you have to say something, don't you btw you and tatime follow each other around all over the place like husband and wife, smile |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:25pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
brocab: To be honest bro, if the elders knew Janosky was behaving with hatred as he does, they would throw him out of kingdom hall. johnw47: Maximus69: That's the direct opposite of what Jesus said! poor unhappy miserable tormented lying pharisee false jw max that comes from you having the wrong god: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:41pm On Apr 19, 2019 |
Maximus69: lying pharisee false jw winky max tormented, ha ha Maximus69: Was Paul trying to persuade Agrippa or his words of defence for his faith? i will explain to you again because you false jw's are blinded: i wouldn't try to persuade false jw's like paul tried with agrippa but i would say to you like Jesus said: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. ^^^ see what your daddy does to you |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:12am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: Maximus69: tormented hypocrit lying pharisee false jw winky max Mat_23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. and of course ravening wolf winky max it's known that false jw are the great false prophets: https://www.nairaland.com/3793815/how-one-witness-jehovahs-witness/69#77522552 in fact everything about you false jw's is false: false jesus hence false jehovah false prophecies false teachers false nwt etc.etc.etc. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:28am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: lying pharisee false jw winky max Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 1:00am On Apr 20, 2019 |
for christians by a christian * I PRAY THAT HE IS THE LIGHT IN YOUR *LIFE, THE HOPE OF YOUR LIFE AND THAT * HE IS THE WORD THAT IS WITHIN YOU ***********EVERY DAY end how good is that 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:05am On Apr 20, 2019 |
No there is a great blunder in your reason of understanding, JW's will only find happiness within the Watchtower-where in Christ we will find happiness wherever we go, as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death 'I fear no evil, because the Lord is with me.. {Psalm 23:4} Maximus69: 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 3:18am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Prefect: johnw47: |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:32am On Apr 20, 2019 |
brocab:Hmmm, if you're not a dullard, a faithful servant of God finds himself in the VALLEY OF SHADOWS OF DEATH and you're still being heady that he will be happy there? When Israelites were taken to Babylon[foreign land], they were not made slaves like the Egyptians did to them yet THEY WERE NOT HAPPY,they couldn't even sing praises to their God in a strange land amidst people who don't value their God nor their divine laws! Psalms 137:1-4 And you're claiming some spirit is teaching you God's word! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:51am On Apr 20, 2019 |
johnw47:So @ 50 you're still deceiving yourself? Paul wasn't persuading anybody in that scripture Baba! He was desperately making a defence of his faith before a faithless Roman governor,so that he won't be handed over to be killed! Act 25:24 compared to 26:1,28 You can read the whole story from chp 23-28 if you're still doubting? So nobody is persuading you and your friends here, all the JWs responding are only making a defence of their faith. When a deeper life man said he feels like teaching you people 'how to witness to JWs' So if you are not here to witness to the JWs like the OP ironically thought of himself,then you're insignificant, irrelevant and without a reasonable motive on this thread Sir! The purpose of the OP according to the topic is 'how to witness' as in persuade or convince JWs that their faith is wrong. Olaadegbu belongs to deeperlife church NOT a none denominational fugitive like you're claiming to be. Therefore if you're not a member of any church and your write~up is not targeted at that same goal then something is wrong with you Baba! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 7:02am On Apr 20, 2019 |
brocab:PERFECT! Just post that on the internet and try read the response from those who stumble on that gibberish to know whether there is anything worthwhile in that! If they will not ask you 'who is your HE?' and that is if they feel like responding to know the motive of the one posting it. But once they discover it's from a black man, they'll just waka pass, concluding that it is a mistake or the writer can't understand English or better still it is coming as a result of your BLACK non-functioning brains! Some miscreant fabricated that nonsense with no names,meaning the writer shamefully hides his/her identity and you call that PERFECT? Surely you guys have what it takes to WITNESS to a JW! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Emusan(m): 8:21am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Always off points Maximus69: Then live as a born again Christian. So what the spirit tells me about being a Christian is in my mind and according to your analogy it's not compulsory it must be the same with yours. How does my analogy and your statement correlate? I believe in the interpretation of the spirit in me just as you too are convinced of the spirit in you. God is not the author of confusion as the spirit is one. The content of John 6:33 which you've deviated from is that, Jesus Christ said "IN HIM..." not in the congregation. A born again Christian will never replace Christ with anything or say what scripture didn't say. And this doesn't mean you should start calling JWs to come and verify what i say since you said it shouldn't be a group thing! How does this explain the fact that you replaced Jesus Christ in John 6:33 with Kingdom Hall? This is my very key point. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:54am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Emusan:Must interpretations of the spirit in me be the same as yours? My friend, i'm a born again Christian and since all the different religions claiming Christians and born again are having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, why must mine and yours correlates? If God is not a author of confusion then why are there divers teachings all in the name of born again, yet you are only opposed to JWs? Well 'don't judge' is what Jesus said! So my interpretation can totally contradict yours, NO problem as long as i am also a born again! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Kamxin(m): 9:14am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: Any spirit that goes contraryto Spirit of Christ is an evill spirit. If two people claiming the spirit of God contdict the other especially in matter of doctrine, one of them is an evill spirit |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Emusan(m): 9:46am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: Yes! Since the spirit is one! My friend, i'm a born again Christian and since all the different religions claiming Christians and born again are having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, why must mine and yours correlates? If you're born again, then a born again Christian won't replace Christ with Kingdom Hall That's how you will know the spirit in you. If God is not a author of confusion then why are there divers teachings all in the name of born again, yet you are only opposed to JWs? Are you saying God is the author of confusion? I've said this before and I'll say it again, I'm not opposing JWs but anyone who twisted and misinterpreted the scripture. Well 'don't judge' is what Jesus said! But you and your organization judge by saying others are not a Christian. So my interpretation can totally contradict yours, NO problem as long as i am also a born again! Yes! But no born again Christian will ever replace Christ with anything else. Let scripture speaks for itself. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 9:58am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Kamxin:Well that's your own understanding Sir and it's like i accept it as reasonable. But can you please explain why there are countless religious groups having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings yet all of them are claiming born again, and to worsen matters they're all claiming it is God's holy spirit that is telling them to go contrary to one another! So between Deeperlife, RCCG, MFM, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholic, Anglican, Chosen, TREM, C&S, CCC, Sabbath, Olumba, Christ Embassy, Winners Chapel, Synagogue, Latter Rain, KICC and the rest. Which one is operating under the influence of God's holy spirit? Because going by your logic there shouldn't be CONTRADICTIONS within the congregation of Christ! 2 Likes |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Emusan:Well, it doesn't matter whether you believe it or not. As a born again child of God,i drank tea with the holy spirit in my bedroom this morning and HE told me to stick to the interpretation of JWs! 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:14am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: lying pharisee false jw laughing hyena max for the third time confused max, truly i wouldn't try to persuade false jw's like paul tried with agrippa but i would say to you like Jesus said: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell Maximus69: So nobody is persuading you and your friends here, all the JWs responding are only making a defence of their faith. When a deeper life man said he feels like teaching you people 'how to witness to JWs' lying pharisee false jw laughing hyena max just your typical puffed up prideful false jw rant, some here witness to you false jw's i however prefer to point out some of your lies and show who you really belong to it's of course a very easy thing to do with you false jw's taking so closely after your god: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:22am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: lying pharisee false jw laughing hyena max truly it didn't, your impersonable power cannot speak Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:32am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:Lost and Denied! Maximus69:Still confused O blindness one, faith in Christ means life-it doesn't matter where I am, Jesus said: He will never leave me, it doesn't matter if death faces me everyday-I know the Lord is with me, I find happiness wherever the Lord is by my side.. |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:47am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: you know that i don't mention their name so as they cannot be mocked by false jw's and you know that is the reason because i have said so about three times recently in this thread but you when you lie are just talking your natural talk like your daddy does: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. lying pharisee false jw laughing hyena max of course only a son of satan would mock this: johnw47: of course Jesus is the light in the life of christians, .... satan is your darkness of course Jesus is the hope of our lives, .... satan is your destiny of course Jesus the Word is within us christians, ....satan of course is in you false jw's of course Jesus rightly talks of you sons of satan and your forefathers the pharisees: Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 11:56am On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69:Make up your mind-which one are you, a believer, or a JW? How does one become a JW' when he is obviously a discriminator against Black people! And surely you discriminate, a prayer-and a response to say it's prefect.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:43pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
Of over 2 billion Christians in the world, less than 30% will ever read through the entire Bible. The fact is over 82% of Christian only read their Bibles on Saturday-Sundays while in church. A little over 20 years ago, Gallup released the results of a major study indicating that 86% claimed to be Christian, although only 70% of these admitted to being “born again” according to biblical measure. In recent studies, the Pew research indicates that only 25% now attend church any given Saturday-Sunday, significantly down from 47% in 1990. The study also shows that, in evangelical churches throughout the world, statistics show 36% of those who attend church weekly indicate that believing in Jesus Christ is the only true way to Heaven. While a shocking 57% of Christians believe other religions can lead to eternal life.. One of the main reasons why Christians don’t read their bibles is, only 22% of them believe the Bible is fully inspired by God Himself, and written by men who were divinely appointed by the Lord almighty. And over 1 in 4 so called Christians believe the bible to be a book written by mere men, not at all the word of God. If we were to survey Christians at churches around the world, most people would agree that they need to read their Bibles. They understand that it is both required and good for them. But the sad truth is, many do not. This lands us in that strange place of knowing, but yet still avoiding, what is good and beneficial for us. Most people when asked about their Bible reading say: I have been really busy-plus I can't be bothered, This may be the truth; However, it is not the reason. I think we can distinguish between realities and reasons. Those same people who are really busy do have the time to eat food and sleep, or hang out at Kingdom hall. And yet I know people who have their entire day {and evening} mapped out for them. They are extremely busy; yet they still read and study their Bibles. In order to do anything of value consistently it takes discipline, However, if we sit back and do not live with intentionality we will not be regularly in the Word of God. Do you think an Olympic athlete hits snooze on their alarm when training? Never! Do they not get tired? Of course they do. But there is a critical point when discipline defeats the desire of the moment. It is when the mind speaks to the heart and says, “Hey, I’m in charge. It is time to get up even if I don’t feel like it.” Discipline takes effort. We don’t recline into discipline we must work at it. Is there anything more important than godliness to discipline ourselves for? Paul tells Timothy to discipline himself for the purpose of godliness {1 Timothy 4:7-8} |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 12:45pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
lying pharisee false jw max christians glory even in tribulations, and we are of course happy with God dwelling in us: Rom 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also Rom_8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. you false jw's glory in lying habitually, and are made miserable by your gods spirit in you: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. your miserableness shows in your writings, and deservedly so 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Emusan(m): 12:52pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: Then it means you're not a born again Christian because Holy Spirit can never instruct anyone to replace Christ with anything, as He shall not speak of His own! Lastly, John 16:33 is all about Christ and not congregation. 1 Like |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 1:08pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
You might as well stay with the JW's, you are no good to yourself, let alone to anybody else' that needs to hear the truth about Christ.. Maximus69: |
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Kamxin(m): 1:42pm On Apr 20, 2019 |
Maximus69: Most of the churches you mentioned are one man church, so don't have doctrine. If you mantion doctrine, division will start, so no need to mention and they will never do so. Church like anglican that have one have broken into pieces because of it, yet they did not disagree with catholic doctrine before quiting. The only one man church that have doctrine that I know is JW. It failed and he have to go back to the drawing board to invent another doctrine that contradict his previous doctrine. Discarding some if the previous doctrine. And you can easily see the spirit that contradict himself. The likes of Adeboye or Oyedepo can hardly make that mistake because they know the implication |
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