MissJoy29:
Oh no, he wasn't dear.

oh no wonder the moniker...

CorGier:


True.
And I must add, a woman can never love you the way you feel you deserve.
I see a lot of men stuck in the anger phase, still harbouring pains from the one(s) who got away. Its like hating on a child for pissing his pants, you know? it can't help it. Women have no loyalty, no sense of responsibility, every single woman who matters will fail you 99% of the time when you need them the most. Hence, we need to approach relationships with zero expectations of women.

I'm a strong believer in living in the moment, and I treat people as they deserve. So every time love comes sure, I give my all. When it goes to shits, amma next that b!tch like she never meant much to me. And its true, they are nothing special (but never tell them that).

that anger phase thou. its like all the women in the world just broke up with you. and in a sense thats what just happened.
some guys get stuck in this anger phase.and end up doing crazy stuff.some go on shooting sprees.others raping sprees.
look at what Elliot Rogers did in the US.rocking up to a mall and shooting people.at home leaving a suicide note/video that said he was tired of being lonely.
why do men grow up with this idea that a wife is promised them? i wonder? could it be the mothers' fault?
i need to do a deeper study on this.

MissJoy29:
It is because there are a lot of:

slay queens,
fuckboys/men,
prostitutes,
escorts,
gigolos,
hit & run men and ladies,
proud baby mamas/daddys,
demons (from all tribes)

who don't give a hoot about love & relationships. There are just so many of them that they outnumber the willing and ready ones.

My humble take though.

at the bolded, you know sometimes I usually ponder about that. What joy does a couple derive in having a child out of wedlock. At first ,when I see celebrity divorce news particularly in the western world, I'm all like " that makes sense. No wonder the men don't like getting married.they prefer to be baby daddies. To avoid the troubles that come along with inevitable divorce I.e financial loss" but trust naija to copy every trend from the western world. Babymamaism is now the order of the day and its the latest business in town for the ladies. Its a shame true love has gone into the infinite abyss of nothingness. Where did we go wrong in this generation

ubunja:

true to a point.that applies only to women.there are more hoes than good gals today.but its the opposite with men.
only about 20% of men are getting regular sex. most men are celibate or using porn. gals dont realise they are only having sex with just 1/5 of the male population. and what adds to this blindness is that they see this 1/5 fvck everything with a skirt and so they think ALL the guys are manwhores! but they dont understand that 80% of men are in friendzones. everytime gals fight over one sexy guy it means another avarage guy out there is without a GF. everytime gals queue for that one hot guy that fvcks like a god,it means a bunch of avarage guys out there are forced to rely on porn.
are women to blame? NO. thats nature at work.evolution.and its gonna get worse for future men.i advice all men never to have sons with ugly women.their sons will be doomed. get a gorgeous gal pregnant and your son will enjoy pvssy.

I think I will agree with you to an extent. Women are now taking the hoeing business to another level. They have overtaken the men. And they are brazen about it. Reason why guys like you classify all ladies into one category: hoes. Even the poster above @CorGier thinks the same way. In all, I blame the ladies for giving you guys that impression.

Now, what's your obsession with ugly women? Noone is ever ugly. But are you saying an ugly MAN can marry a gorgeous woman but a man shouldn't marry an ugly woman?

Another question, how many major bad heartbreaks have you gone through to hate women like this & see them only as pieces to be played with?

kingofcasting:
at the bolded, you know sometimes I usually ponder about that. What joy does a couple derive in having a child out of wedlock. At first ,when I see celebrity divorce news particularly in the western world, I'm all like " that makes sense. No wonder the men don't like getting married.they prefer to be baby daddies. To avoid the troubles that come along with inevitable divorce I.e financial loss" but trust naija to copy every trend from the western world. Babymamaism is now the order of the day and its the latest business in town for the ladies. Its a shame true love has gone into the infinite abyss of nothingness. Where did we go wrong in this generation

My dear, that's the world we live in now. And the scariest part is that it's gonna get worse. I fear for the future. Seriously.

sirBLUNT:
oh no wonder the moniker...

Lol...yeah

MissJoy29:

My dear, that's the world we live in now. And the scariest part is that it's gonna get worse. I fear for the future. Seriously.

we can only hope

kingofcasting:
we can only hope

Yes. We can. May our expectations not be cut off

MissJoy29:

I think I will agree with you to an extent. Women are now taking the hoeing business to another level. They have overtaken the men. And they are brazen about it. Reason why guys like you classify all ladies into one category: hoes. Even the poster above @CorGier thinks the same way. In all, I blame the ladies for giving you guys that impression.

Now, what's your obsession with ugly women? Noone is ever ugly. But are you saying an ugly MAN can marry a gorgeous woman but a man shouldn't marry an ugly woman?

Another question, how many major bad heartbreaks have you gone through to hate women like this & see them only as pieces to be played with?

thats the Master Manipulation of women: no one is ugly.
it prepares the male mind to accept all women as they are.
its like that other manipulation: Respect is earned. but love me as i am. total self-serving mind control. if i ever hear my lil bro say No woman is ugly, i will give him a slap so hard he will land in the future.
ugly women are like poor men. nothing to offer.
and learn to take criticism like a real woman.a man who doesnt worship women is not a man who hates women.dont get it twisted.you are so used to men agreeing with u to earn approval that any man who doesnt give a fvck makes u insecure.
women are pieces to be played with coz what else does a man need from a woman? like really? imagine a working guy,driving a nice car with a house , who cooks and cleans for himself-what use does he have for a woman except sex? to be honest.

ubunja:

that anger phase thou. its like all the women in the world just broke up with you. and in a sense thats what just happened.
some guys get stuck in this anger phase.and end up doing crazy stuff.some go on shooting sprees.others raping sprees.
look at what Elliot Rogers did in the US.rocking up to a mall and shooting people.at home leaving a suicide note/video that said he was tired of being lonely.
why do men grow up with this idea that a wife is promised them? i wonder? could it be the mothers' fault?
i need to do a deeper study on this.

Yeah I feel you brah. We were all brought up in a society where our needs as men do not matter. As young boys, we where taught how to be nice and respectful to girls, study hard, get a decent job, settle down and then have kids. Our entire sense of self is centered around pleasing and validating women.
Girls on the other hand, grew up to be self-centered and entitled as they never had to work for anything. Hey, I mean with a set of nice tits and and an ass to kill for, you're made for life. Some mofo out there would be ever willing to walk her down that aisle.
But us guys? ha.

So our quintessential nice guy grows up depressed; failed relationship after failed relationship, and wonders what else he has to do to to get some level of reciprocity from the same women he has been taught to love, respect and care for. After living to please women all his life, why wouldn't they want him?


Along the line, he discovers he's been lied to all his life, then he takes out all that anger on the society.

Someone on here made mention of how our fathers and grandfathers managed to keep their women in check back in the day; it tells you how feminized the modern man has become. Our relationships, and dare I say marriages, are failing because of our inability to control our women. They fail because every time she's acting crazy, you fail in your God given essence as a man to hold your frame.

ubunja:

thats the Master Manipulation of women: no one is ugly.
it prepares the male mind to accept all women as they are.
its like that other manipulation: Respect is earned. but love me as i am. total self-serving mind control. if i ever hear my lil bro say No woman is ugly, i will give him a slap so hard he will land in the future.
ugly women are like poor men. nothing to offer.
and learn to take criticism like a real woman.a man who doesnt worship women is not a man who hates women.dont get it twisted.you are so used to men agreeing with u to earn approval that any man who doesnt give a fvck makes u insecure.
women are pieces to be played with coz what else does a man need from a woman? like really? imagine a working guy,driving a nice car with a house , who cooks and cleans for himself-what use does he have for a woman except sex? to be honest.

First, I don't need to argue with you about ugly women and poor men. As far as they are still human beings and I don't know tomorrow, I can't laugh at them.

Second, You didn't criticise me so what do I have to take like a real woman? Again, we are arguing CONSTRUCTIVELY so I don't see what I will be doing with your likes & approval. When you make sense, I agree & approve. It doesn't make me any less than you as it seems it makes you feel when you agree with people.

Third, yeah, that guy you mentioned above doesn't need a woman. Women are not important. Yet, that's what every guy on this forum talks about. That's all wehear about 24/7. That's even what you & I are talking about even though you are trying so hard to convince yourself and your followers that women are nothing but pieces to be toyed with.

HeyCorleone:
Relationships are starting to feel like a chore, but I really hope I'm not starting to bore.

If this nah punchline... I bet e no fit blow fowl nyansh sef...

lets be real here every woman need's a man likewise every man need's a man,no man is an island,i always tell guys that if the only thing a woman can offer you is sex then you have no right to be with that woman talk more of marrying her because every woman can give you sex likewise if the only thing a man can offer you is money then you have no right been with him except you're after his money..it's about finding someone who completes you, and complement you and someone who makes you happy!

newslifeop:
Blame the girls
Most are rude and young immature and believe they are exposed.when they are 30 above and still single they will now blame God

they also wanna be in charge of everything

CorGier:


Yeah I feel you brah. We were all brought up in a society where our needs as men do not matter. As young boys, we where taught how to be nice and respectful to girls, study hard, get a decent job, settle down and then have kids. Our entire sense of self is centered around pleasing and validating women.
Girls on the other hand, grew up to be self-centered and entitled as they never had to work for anything. Hey, I mean with a set of nice tits and and an ass to kill for, you're made for life. Some mofo out there would be ever willing to walk her down that aisle.
But us guys? ha.

So our quintessential nice guy grows up depressed; failed relationship after failed relationship, and wonders what else he has to do to to get some level of reciprocity from the same women he has been taught to love, respect and care for. After living to please women all his life, why wouldn't they want him?


Along the line, he discovers he's been lied to all his life, then he takes out all that anger on the society.

Someone on here made mention of how our fathers and grandfathers managed to keep their women in check back in the day; it tells you how feminized the modern man has become. Our relationships, and dare I say marriages, are failing because of our inability to control our women. They fail because every time she's acting crazy, you fail in your God given essence as a man to hold your frame.

I feel you sir. Sometimes, I feel it's actually a woman's world. We do have a lot of privileges more than men. But hey, who started it all? Who started the idolizing the women? Who started objectifying us? Who started elevating us most times even much more than we deserve? Who started revolving their lives around us? Who started seeing us as gods to be worshipped? Who started seeing us as prizes to be won & battles to conquer?

Now, no gender is much more important than the other. We complement each other. We complete each other. But you guys started these things you are complaining about. You started it & yet you are complaining about it.

The key? Find a good woman who won't feel she did you a favour by dating or marrying you. That's how it starts sometimes. Both of you should be striving to outdo each other in the "worshipping and idolizing" game cos you both deserve it. And trust me, you & your folks won't feel left out.

My humble piece though.

sirBLUNT:
lets be real here every woman need's a man likewise every man need's a man,no man is an island,i always tell guys that if the only thing a woman offer is sex then you have no right to be with that woman talk more of marrying because every woman can give you sex likewise if the only thing a man can offer you is money then you have no right been with him except you're after his money..it's about finding someone who completes you and makes you happy!

Exactly dear! No human is an island. On the other hand, no human is more important than the other. Find that person who complements you. Simple!

MissJoy29:

First, I don't need to argue with you about ugly women and poor men. As far as they are still human beings and I don't know tomorrow, I can't laugh at them.

Second, You didn't criticise me so what do I have to take like a real woman? Again, we are arguing CONSTRUCTIVELY so I don't see what I will be doing with your likes & approval. When you make sense, I agree & approve. It doesn't make me any less than you as it seems it makes you feel when you agree with people.

Third, yeah, that guy you mentioned above doesn't need a woman. Women are not important. Yet, that's what every guy on this forum talks about. That's all wehear about 24/7. That's even what you & I are talking about even though you are trying so hard to convince yourself and your followers that women are nothing but pieces to be toyed with.

what followers of mine?

ubunja:

what followers of mine?

You know, the ones you are trying so hard to convince.

MissJoy29:

Exactly dear! No human is an island. On the other hand, no human is more important than the other. Find that person who complements you. Simple!

that's what people dont understand the moment we beging to judge and criticize people instead of complementing their weakness is the day ego will set in and instead loving the right person we end up fallen for the wrong person for the wrong reasons because we dont even know what we want..

MissJoy29:

You know, the ones you are trying so hard to convince.

that would be like fishing for fish that are already in the boat. if they are my followers already why keep on trying to convience them? they are convienced already..
even the Pastor doesnt convience his church that Christ is Lord daily.

It's so funny that most guys here just put the blame solely on the opposite gender like all guys are saints

CorGier:


Yeah I feel you brah. We were all brought up in a society where our needs as men do not matter. As young boys, we where taught how to be nice and respectful to girls, study hard, get a decent job, settle down and then have kids. Our entire sense of self is centered around pleasing and validating women.
Girls on the other hand, grew up to be self-centered and entitled as they never had to work for anything. Hey, I mean with a set of nice tits and and an ass to kill for, you're made for life. Some mofo out there would be ever willing to walk her down that aisle.
But us guys? ha.

So our quintessential nice guy grows up depressed; failed relationship after failed relationship, and wonders what else he has to do to to get some level of reciprocity from the same women he has been taught to love, respect and care for. After living to please women all his life, why wouldn't they want him?


Along the line, he discovers he's been lied to all his life, then he takes out all that anger on the society.

Someone on here made mention of how our fathers and grandfathers managed to keep their women in check back in the day; it tells you how feminized the modern man has become. Our relationships, and dare I say marriages, are failing because of our inability to control our women. They fail because every time she's acting crazy, you fail in your God given essence as a man to hold your frame.

people dont understand how hard it is for men to control the urge to simp.simping is a very real temptation.when a gal fvcks up and looks at you with that innocent-guilty face it takes a man of real character to look at her and tell her, straight-faced : "fix your mistake."
most men will just hold the gal close and assure her its all OK and blah blah.meanwhile inside the guy is pissed. then the guy goes out to his buddies to hangout; only for him to snap at the first guy that makes a joke at him.that sh!t needs to stop. vent your anger to the one who provoked you.if your woman drops your phone and crack its screen dont tell her its OK only to explode all over some poor soul on the street who shoves you a little by mistake.its wrong.
hold women to account.it makes you High Value. coz you set a standard that women then feel challanged to meet.women also love to impress a guy. it turns them on.

if u watch movies a lot u have heard women many times repeat one sentence over and over again:
PUNISH ME DADDY; I'VE BEEN A BAD GIRL.
yes.women love it when a man holds them to a set of rules.its very masculine.and alpha.

sirBLUNT:
that's what people dont understand the moment we beging to judge and criticize people instead of complementing their weakness is the day ego will set in and instead loving the right person we end up fallen for the wrong person for the wrong reasons because we dont even know what we want..

Lol @not knowing what we want. Me sef, I don't know what I want

But seriously, we all need each other.

ubunja:

ugly for women and the men who still dream of love.
i remember the first time i met a gal in town , chatted to her, had a snack with her and ended up fvcking her. that was the day life stopped having meaning for me. everything i had been taught about love and sex all my life just turned out to be one big lie.that was when i evolved into a player.
but sometimes i regret that day.ignorance was bliss.now i look at my friends so happy in the matrix dream world,asleep happily like in Inception.enjoying the beautiful lie.
i even regret that internet article i read that made me experiment in the first place.and i have seen that same article qouted in many websites.
the biggest disappointment as a man you can come upon is to realise that the only woman who ever loved you unconditionally was your mother. the rest need a reason to love you.
it hurts.
but once you make peace with this heartbreaking truth, no woman will ever make you cry, or beg ever again in this life.

You inspire me.

MissJoy29:

Lol @not knowing what we want. Me sef, I don't know what I want

But seriously, we all need each other.

hmmm joy me and you will have a serious fight oo what do you mean by..you dont know what you want? oh you're a perfectionist right?

ubunja:

that would be like fishing for fish that are already in the boat. if they are my followers already why keep on trying to convience them? they are convienced already..
even the Pastor doesnt convience his church that Christ is Lord daily.

But Pastors lose members on a daily basis. The current debate on tithing #freethesheeple movement should tell you that not all who follow pastors are grounded. Some are still sucklings, some are babes, some are indecisive, some are reluctant, some are mature, some are grounded. But they are all followers, aren't they?

sirBLUNT:
hmmm joy me and you will have a serious fight oo what do you mean by..you dont know what you want? oh you're a perfectionist right?

Lol...don't mind me o...
And no, we can't have any fight at all. Let alone a serious one

Yes, I think I'm a perfectionist.

MissJoy29:

Lol...don't mind me o...
And no, we can't have any fight at all. Let alone a serious one

Yes, I think I'm a perfectionist.

if been "selective" is term as been a perfectionist then am afriad am guilty too but unfortunately there is a big disparity so am not guilty..but dont you think you're been hard on guys?mayb you should try and be a little bit soft...and give a chance to a "perfect gentleman" and nt a "perfect man"

MissJoy29:

But Pastors lose members on a daily basis. The current debate on tithing #freethesheeple movement should tell you that not all who follow pastors are grounded. Some are still sucklings, some are babes, some are indecisive, some are reluctant, some are mature, some are grounded. But they are all followers, aren't they?

thats like saying a husband and wife must not be called husband and wife coz any moment they can divorce.

Menist have overtaken the thread. Women are the problem, men are near perfect. Women change o!!!

MissJoy29:

I feel you sir. Sometimes, I feel it's actually a woman's world. We do have a lot of privileges more than men. But hey, who started it all? Who started the idolizing the women? Who started objectifying us? Who started elevating us most times even much more than we deserve? Who started revolving their lives around us? Who started seeing us as gods to be worshipped? Who started seeing us as prizes to be won & battles to conquer?

Now, no gender is much more important than the other. We complement each other. We complete each other. But you guys started these things you are complaining about. You started it & yet you are complaining about it.

The key? Find a good woman who won't feel she did you a favour by dating or marrying you. That's how it starts sometimes. Both of you should be striving to outdo each other in the "worshipping and idolizing" game cos you both deserve it. And trust me, you & your folks won't feel left out.

My humble piece though.

Its the society dear. By manipulating and feminizing men they can control us easily can't you see? That's why they will happily separate kids from their fathers, leaving young boys to grow up without a father figure.
They would eventually turn to drugs, booze and weed. And there you have it - a population of effeminate men too drunk and high to challenge authority.

On your last point, we can agree. At first I thought it wise to ignore you when you said I perceived all girls as hoes, when in fact I was advocating for men to never take you lots too seriously in relationships, cos y'all can't just help yourselves in always falling below our expectations.

But I feel you though, a relationship is most fulfilling when each significant other perceives the other as an equal. Though we both know a man and a woman can never be equals, but you get my point.

pocohantas:
Menist have overtaken the thread. Women are the problem, men are near perfect. Women change o!!!

Meninists, I think.