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|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by ImperialYoruba: 3:43pm On Jan 14|
Stop quoting people and shuussh.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 11:58am On Jan 16|
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 12:16pm On Jan 16|
There is over 75% possibility of the borrowed or transfer words or exchange between Greek and ancient Yorubas due to war and the driven away of Yoruba from their original land in Middle East. In fact, the English borrowed IRON from Paleo-Hebrew . And invariably, it was derived from archaic Yoruba ancestors,word,‘IRIN'. The same way,other words are cognates with ancient Semitic Middle Eastern languages
Anyway, I thank Eledumare who has thought me something I wouldn't have been able to know till the end of time without his instruction and inspiration.My appreciation goes to him forever. And I hope you and others continuously do so because it is not by our power but the mercy of Ori, who is explicitly creation of our Élédáà( creator)
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 2:08pm On Jan 16|
I hope you will neglect Ìshèótà( enemy's work).This said young man on this platform who is here to bring this forum to irreavancy is dehydrated intellectually and want to know through deceptive means. So ignore him because of my personal experience earlier on this platform.
In genuineness as you being a traditional believer, which is still an embrace ideology of mine need inform say to you to inform us once you have information to share because it is important you are part of the solution so that many Yoruba traditionalists and western knowledgeable Yorubas as well as western redearchers who had interpreted part of what the know and unable to interprete beyond certain means need understand that the inscription on the opa Oranmiyan does not mean his years on earth, his reign or his walking stick but a Code for us to break, who his ancestors and his peoples ancestors were so that the rigid scholars who have not thought about finding out why unique construction and inscription are found in old cities in Yoruba land can be thought.
I want you and curiousmo minds to Kindly ponder over these following questions ,which are:
1. Has any also heard of an inscription found in Idanre mountain that's not readable?
2. How was it possible for Yoruba to have such iron nails construction around 1 millennium or 1100-1200AD to write the inscription on Opa(obelisk) oranmiyan without the interpretation of the inscription even after 1000+ years after?
3. What method did they use to insert the iron nails into the granite gneiss of opa oranya?
4.What technological instruments did they make use of in achieving the insertion of the iron nails into oranmiyan obelisk?
5. Has anymore been able to reproduce the design of the iron nails look like a ‘three-pronged forklike configuration”?
6. How did the iron nails have a bullet-like appearance?
7. How was Opa Ogun which is located also in Ileife is made and shaped to look like a cylindrical bulb?
8. What is the significance of stone works in Ileife which are classified as Art works which are Middle East inspired work?
9. Why are these work in ILE IFE and other Yoruba ancient towns have stones works made from granite or gneiss?
10.How were these stone works made from local granite or gneiss?
I hope all of us will do his or her best to place yorubas as the language which must be learned by all who want to know the classical Early Paleo-Hebrew Semitic language.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 4:41pm On Jan 16|
I am not the one that call you omo ibo o, its your interpretations so far that has just kept blowing your cover over and over. Since you claim not to be Igbo, then what's your identity? You will see what I'm talking about in the next post, then you can tell if you are Yoruba or not.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 5:27pm On Jan 16|
I'd never call myself anything in Yoruba, I just demonstrate here that I am thoroughbred Yoruba and that I have keen understanding of her history and culture and language as should a man of that culture. Time and again I have told you where I came from, every household in Yoruba have their tradition that connect them to history of the Yoruba, is your ancestry as Yoruba not a source in history? Then you are not Yoruba.
If I rewrite history from my mind, that means history is on my mind. If I invent and make up facts, uncover facts that can abrogate my facts with the facts at the sources at your disposal, stop complaining, I did not hold your brain, I did not stop you from going the opposite direction wherever I go, trying to stop me is simply that you are insecure.
This place is a coast in today Portugal, but in the period of Yoruba migration, there was no Portugal, just as there was no Nigeria then. Its but part of the Mediterranean coasts that the seafaring Yoruba ancestors do business, and had first hand knowledge of such places and beyond. some centuries back, Yoruba refers to Muslims as Imale, this being "Mali", based on the direction of Islamic influx. Also they made a contraption of Sierra Leone to Saro, they also reduce wazir (tafsir) to waasu, an arabic word.
Now a man of Portugal gave Lagos its name as "Lagos De Curamo". Was there a record of that encounter with Yoruba traditionalists you often send us to for history? We knew because the European wrote and kept the record, but we don't have Africa's recorded version of the visit. Did the visit happened? Was he the first sailor in history of the ocean from Portugal or Europe to Lagos? Why should there be any?
Many event that happen has no fixed record in local tradition. It never mean it never happen, the record are embedded in words, like you have in Lagos or Kuramo. So, words are encrusted with history, and if you know how to decipher them, do. I see you refer me back to geography? Hmm, you are classroom conscious but knowledge deficit, will they be teaching you about etymology of words in geography class, did they teach you about the origin of the word Lagos in geography?
Have you define ibadan like that? "Ibadan, iba Odan, edge of the savannah". You are a typical OLODO. Does the word IBA mean edge in your own side of Yorubaland? Then you donated that meaning to the Ibadan to make up a word for their homeland long ago. Many Yoruba will tell you that Ibadan is from Eba (note, not Iba, Yoruba for esunsun or fever). So according to that etymology, its eba odan, not iba odan.
How did you get the right meaning and fail the morpheme? Because you copied from a site where the story is told but the original writer left out that part of word changes to avoid the burden of proof, so like a hapless copycat copying people's matric number when they cheat, you copy the same mistake and landed yourself another error of interpretation that question your origin.
If Iberu is fear, what does "eru" mean? At least the Yoruba often says, "eru o tie kin ba e", where "eru" is noun and "ba" is verb. I've said the word is a phrase, but you are too foolish to understand what a phrase mean. Iberu is a phrasal verb. You that can break Ibadan to iba Odan, how could you be ignorant of similarity in sound and syllables the word shares with Iberu? Just use the same morphological lemma for Iberu too, don't tell me its one whole word that never break to morphemes, when ibadan does.
Ijaya is to be frighten, lol: so you use English word to buttress Yoruba word because there are no better synonyms in Yoruba language to buttress your point? So "o jami laya" means "you frighten me" then, o jami lekanna must have an element of fright, o funmi laya, o kimi laya, o tami laya, o kami laya" we don't know if all have element of fright though. What you do is to find synonyms of the same word I shared and claim that to be the truest meaning to you (to do what you want to do), but still you fail.
Your interpreter on the internet is an "indomie generation" feeding you shallow insight. And you sef, you can't even perceive how feeble your ruse is because you are not just intelligent. You are not very bright going by your silly mistakes.
Ibadan lo mo, oo mo Laipo.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 5:36pm On Jan 16|
You see how often you copy people at your own risk? When I say its a new word, you absorb that line. Well that's not my point anyway, the point I was making then was that those set of words were idealization of foreign word into another language to make provision for their local equivalent. Example of a new word is mangoro from mango, konputa from computer, etc. You really lack perception and understanding gangidi.
At the bolded, you claim you were asking for clarification of the words for your work. Then as a Yoruba person that you are, how could you produce a work and you are confused of your role in that work as the producer? If you are that confused, are you all dummies? Is the cast none of Yoruba background with practitioner's advice to offer? So none of the artistes understand your role?
Then you are a copyright thief.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:15pm On Jan 16|
Let him be bro because he distracts. If I say to you , I have broken the forklike inscription on Opa Oranmiyan,would you believe it? The mystery of God is beyond human,so why try proof a point to someone who thinks he knows but knows not because he fail to see the difference between cognates and false cognates? This ought be an eye opener for you Sir! Have you not learned from my flaws? So dont fall to his trap as I DID EARLIER on this Platform. Even if I am 100% correct about MY ANCESTRY . Please teach what you know I lacked online and if need be , in person. After all, we are disciples of history through all the available methods known to mankind.
With humility do I plead with you to proof no more point to him because you are making him Olaochi having a filled day. Truthfully, I say to you Sir, make him irrelevant for us the right thinking minds to learn from your wealth of experience because :
Sir,knowledge belong to who want to see things from a thin line and understand it.
Wisdom belongs to who want to know the reason
nature is suspended before mystery is made manifest.
While understanding belong to tbe gods that make things of God made manifest on earth through divine ways. So why belittle your awesome gift? I doff my hat for you and others but let a foolish man act in continuum. And I hope Eledumaare make you understand my stance.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 1:44am On Jan 17|
Watch how this fraud is quick to dismiss the translation of others, used all over as that of Indomie generation yet has been debunked and exposed severally
learn what Iberia means and where it comes from, it has nothing to do with Yoruba word "ibẹru"
Till the end of the world, you are still behind me in knowledge because I learn while you make up "facts' from your asss, it's no wonder you have no sources and can't defend your claims
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 2:24am On Jan 17|
You are right brother.
However, you must take time to teach a fool about his foolishness, you know the fellow is completely ignorant and arrogant, finding flaws to stay relevant. If you don't treat some of his misconceptions, he will be putting up the facade of being enlightened. He's akso an opportunity to teach further, and not a problem per se. He has been reduced to a wailer, I will leave him after now.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 2:35am On Jan 17|
You are a complete loser, can you see that you don't have any dept? So "used all over" is an instance of fact? Its "all over" for you hence you need another delay tactics to see if what you can hold to for relevance can turn up. The rantmaster that you are. Your claims have crumbled.
It is not known with any certainty whether the Greeks used a local native name for the river, nor what the word "Ibēr" or "Hibēr" might mean
You are a learner, and a learner you will always be to the end of the world. Only a hardened thief is cocky after being dealt a hand because that's his way of life, he rather die than be sane. You rather die than agree that your knowledge is limited to what I share and you discuss.
Just now you can't uphold what you recently learn and claimed as pillar of knowledge and proof of your Yoruba origin, flanked with undeniable "sources", hard facts that no one can refute. But moments later, your defense is pure rants and wikipedia to the rescue.
That proofs you are a cyber bully and a professional thief, robbing others of their intellectual properties. Imagine a Yoruba producer who did not know his role in a work that he has produced, isn't that a thief of the highest order?
You clean the originality and input your name as the producer, bloody thief and pirate. You be Alaba boi shey? Reaping where you did not sow and making hardwork nought. Whats the title of the work in question again?
I believe that's why you couldn't boast of your work and nothing like it drop here, but you are quick to tell me you are this stupendously rich, such a filthy lucre: so you do not have value for honest gain and dignity of labour that is. Bloody thief. That's why you scream "fraudsters" here always, as if its the only word in your world. You see yourself in others.
You just prove that you are indeed a copyright thief, claiming wiki credits as core of your intellect and others' sweat as your own. You don't have the concept of "originality" because you can't read and understand. You leverage on the sweat of others but use their input as your gain to earn respect and recognition online, no input from you but copy and paste. Where is your source for the Ibadan piece? Its all over.
The word Iberus is Greek word, from Iberus fulmen as wiki put it, this Greek word is a cognate with the Yoruba word iberu. Forget about the argument first. Until a historical relationship is established for the two, it remains cognates, that what they have in common (I mean both sound similar but exist at different places where they mean different things). It becomes true cognates, true friend if it is confirmed that both words have related meaning, but if not, it would be cognates still but false cognates true friends at that instance.
Now what is binding is this, iberu (Yoruba) is cognate with Iberus (Greek/βηρ, latin/Ibēr). Either Latin or Greek, both share perceivable attributes in writing or pronunciation (except what is pronounced is not what is transcribed, or there is a decree that a word from two anonymous language must not match each other). Whats next is to verify if they were true cognate false friend or false cognates true friend.
As A Learner, Learn About Cognates
"True cognate true friends" means two words from different anonymous languages have the same origin and still exhibit the same meaning, "true cognate false friends" means they have the same origin but now have different meaning in their respective culture, "false cognates true friend" means two anonymous languages have the same word but different origin.
You don't know what a phrase is, I expect you to come here and use "cognate" as antithesis of its own set soon, you've done it before the first time I exposed you to its use. Till the end of time you will learn and not understand, except you change.
Now before you slump into your next throes of glory, the wiki entry still needed your contribution on the etymology of the word "Ebro" because the meaning is not completely resolved to the writer of that piece in spite of diverse written sources that he has consulted.
Yet you are already taking glory for another person's sweat that is not yet finished. Why not wait or finish the work for the wiki author from your diverse "sources" from all over? You don't read, so I don't expect you to assimilate.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:19am On Jan 17|
absoluteSuccess:Greeting to you Sir,
I know what you mean precisely because I am once perturbed at the rate of condemnation without proofing anything to counter our views but attack personalitiies whose view is different from this said man . Plainly, I realised that we cant be called wisemen and do contrary so, I appreciate you intent to quote him once in a while if need be as you have rightly said that a fool needs be taught even if he care less to absorb the glaring truth.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 10:05am On Jan 17|
Thanks my brother,
I appreciate your concern greatly. Good minds like yours are quite rare to come by. I have been greatly enlightened sharing ideas with folks like you, metaphysical, obalufon and recently imperialYoruba. Once in a while there should be opposing views and that is healthy.
I may not get along very well with macof, but that man is very intelligent, savvy and knowledgeable, save for his outbursts of vituperation against me on some of my positions, I strife to be calm and friendly till I really got tired. We have been on it many years till you join us.
There are other folks that are pleasant to share with, not because they agree with you, but that they help you do better with your claims. I won't forget good folks like redbonesmith, he's unbiased and responsible. I believe hayoholla is a plus to us. God bless us all.
@Olu, I miss where you said you've been able to decipher the inscription on the Opa Oranyan.
What calligraphy did it? I don't believe such is not decipherable.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 11:55am On Jan 17|
absoluteSuccess:this guy thinks he knows so much, yet knows nothing. read here the definition of cognate https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cognate. So it is not certain what 'Iber' means but you know what it means? by adding 'u' and turning it to Yoruba 'iberu' cognate chief that doesn't regard meaning or even the pronunciation of the words, just because they have similar spellings and fit your agenda they must be cognates.
see your fraud has been exposed again unknowingly
where did i take glory for another person's work? you are just desperate
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 12:02pm On Jan 17|
absoluteSuccess:Iberia is named after Ibẹru and Ibẹru is yoruba name for Hebrew and that is knowledge? you are a fraudster mr
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 12:31pm On Jan 17|
Well, you did mentioned a lot of folks out there and I am aware of them too. Even if I disagree at times with these people you mentioned ,.which healthy for authenticity of what I have been doing so as to defend my claims as valid or accept such defeat if I can't be able to proof my case beyond my nose which I don't think I haven't. So, it would have been unhealthy if there is no challenge to many of our views and research work to justify our positions. Thank God there is this big challenge that has made all of us to be more studious before posting any views that's bound to be challenged.
As I had read how Professor Biobaku ridiculed the personality of Olumide Lucas as a pastor, and not a historian,which is the reason some of these few elements online are using as the basis claiming they know. Yet non either today's Nigeria's historians or over jubilee historians or linguists of Nigeria's Yorubas have done anything close to what the great man(Lucas) did. Therefore, it is important for critics of our researches to zip up their views because,‘MAVEN', is allowed in all field. I hope the intellectual dehydrated baby(ies) will know the meaning of word,‘MAVEN' . Even,as it stands, it is advisable to be certified as an authority.
As far as Élédáà, the divine guide ones part the Opa Oranmiyan, that I claimed to have broken the code isn't a LIE because I know the meaning of the inscription, which is a Middle East inscription.In fact, the cylindric bulb like of Ogun has a meaning as well. Interestingly, two different world cant have a shared word or incription without such to either lived with such people or are the same people themselves. If you recall, I made mentioned of vulture as sacred bird in my Oriki(panegyric) which is seen as dreaded,that's not meant to be killed,feed on what is given to it as a sacrifice,scary to see etc in Yoruba land, is closely seen in nearly the same context in Middle East.
Well, I dont intend to reveal the broken code on this platform because it will not bring me the necessary accolade nor give ILE life and Yoruba land more tourism opportunity since it is the whole world that I intend to quell the desire and proof the identity of yorubas since the Western researchers on lost tribes Israel have claimed they know where the Hebrew Obelisk is in Africa. I say to you that the Opa Oranmiyan is a Middle East work of Hebrew in Origin
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 1:34pm On Jan 17|
And what exactly have you learned over the years you have been on here ? The meaning of cognate? Right! Seriously, you need speed up to a rehabilitation center for help. Indeed you lack the pedigree to be on this platform because you virtually contribute nothing!
It is just an advise for you because you're incredibly A DEIFICIT on this platform. This does not mean I will unfollow you except stop following my moniker since I am a fearless of challenge which can be found inmy Oriki that says, Omo Dade ri n ri ogun ma sa t nri Oté má béèrù A má fi idi pa Oté mo' ilé. Kindly stop drinking Alabukun on someone's else created Post.Are you not ashamed?
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 11:43pm On Jan 17|
Olu317:i will be ashamed when you finally provide evidence that you have been asked for years by different people , but we know that's not happening right?
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 8:19am On Jan 18|
Yes that's true. Opa Oranyan is of the same valence as Absalom obelisk. I have an understanding that the Opa is the reference in the oriki onikoyi, where it says "opomulero moja ale kan, opo mura opo gbaja, ikoyi eso..." The onikoyi were the elite guard who came with the migrants and were earlier in costudy of it till God led them to where the opo must be situated as the capital city for the migrants so to say.
Once obalufon made reference to Yorubas using horses as it was in the middle east earlier on, this were the horsemen tribe of the Yoruba, the onikoyi. That they were equally merchant navy is telling in the fact that their homestead were spread all over Yorubaland, and they have a place on the Island that came to be known as Victoria Island. The word itself means IkoYi, "Circuit Squad" as navigators of old.
23. Others went out to sea in ships,
conducting trade on the mighty waters.
24. They saw the works of the LORD,
and His wonders in the deep.
25. For He spoke and raised a tempest
that lifted the waves of the sea.
26. They mounted up to the heavens, they sunk to the depths;
their courage melted in their anguish.
27. They reeled and staggered like drunkards,
and all their skill was useless.b
28. Then they cried out to the LORD in their trouble,
and He brought them out of their distress.
29. He calmed the storm to a whisper,
and the waves of the sea were hushed.
30. They rejoiced in the silence
and He guided them to the harbor they desired.
31. Let them give thanks to the LORD for His loving devotion
and His wonders to the sons of men.
32. Let them exalt Him in the assembly of the people
and praise Him in the council of the elders.
As a member of the seafearers of old, I joined my faith to yours and pray that it shall be well with you. Keep searching for phenomena and you will keep finding more. Think you can think you can't you will always be right. So my brother, you can, continue being blessed. I'm also working earnestly to see my book come to the light this year hopefully, when two or more materials are out from different source, facts emerge.
All the glory must be to The Lord, for He is worthy to be praised. Out of the mouth of babes...
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 8:35am On Jan 18|
I have given you a new word, it should be your burden to find its meaning, you have just done that, so no need turn the table, its not your idea. Find something worthwhile to establish your authority on, not my words.
You never learn even when you claim you are learning. It should not sound the same way to be cognates since its from two different languages. The fact that they are "close in pronunciation" is what establish the two words as cognates, not a letter deficit. How do you read to understand?
If wiki did not have the interpretation, then it does not exist? I thought you have a brain that is working, you can't continue where the researcher stop? You see, you are knowledge deficit, you can't solve intellectual problem even with your google search engine? You stop where wiki stopped.
When you quoted wiki and claim you will be behind me in your world of crass knowledge, is it your knowledge you were boasting of or another's? So, you don't know the difference. How will you know what you are in a production of a film of your own making?
You are a lost cause, you don't have knowledge.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 2:50pm On Jan 18|
go and learn what cognate means olodo, i directed you to a dictionary, use it
two words with close pronunciation even without similar meaning are cognates complete olodo that is what you are, go back to school, that is if you even completed secondary education. Professional fraud
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 10:30pm On Jan 18|
As you rightly know, that of old, the wisdom of ancient Yorubas says,both the youthful and the elderly have a role to play in our society.So let us work the work now that strength has not failed us for work Almighty Ledumaare sent us to bring more glory to Yoruba land as a whole.
As you have had rightly posited that ll the glory must go to our lord is seconded by I . And hopefully, I will be waiting to read your book which I know will be filled with wealth of experience once it hits the market.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 7:42am On Jan 19|
Sure my brother, I wont disappoint.
There are scientific explanations to it, to solve the racial dichotomy angle to the story. It is all to the glory of God and that the land may appease the Father of creation. When we all bring what the ancestors has kept with us to the fore, we have lived their hope.
The earnest expectation of creation is the manifestation of the children of God.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 10:38am On Jan 19|
Don't direct your audience to a dictionary, please. Find ways to quote a source for clear understanding on the subject of discussion in the discussion, not outside the discussion because you leave a vague idea that nobody can trace back to you in such instance.
Bring up the understanding you have from what you have read in the dictionary. Are you this timid of making mistakes when trying to state the word of a dictionary in your own word as you best understand it? Don't show me a link, show me your knowledge after studying.
Professor, do you read before making conclusions at all? It is better to be a primary school dropout who is useful, resourceful, productive and be contented with what you have earned from education than to be a graduate without iota of knowledge.
You are a graduate aren't you? And you can't fathom the meaning of the simplest everyday word, even when you have it defined. This man has proven time without number on this platform that he cannot redefine a word that has just been defined for him a dictionary.
What a fool you are boy?? Confused man trying hard to confuse others.
Please what is the meaning of these words in your dictionary again, eru, iba, alakooso?
You are the true definition of cognitive parallax.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 12:19pm On Jan 19|
I think it is a paradox seeing this kind of shameful personality online who can't add value to a constructive information as posted on this forum without amusing many readers with his vague names. As simple as abc,everything about is contradictory. No wonder you claim Ibo-Yoruba . No identity! Perhaps, you are Biafra bound.
Trust me, iboman with a boyish style, that I don't want you to be ashamed but humbled to the extreme. In fact, you and the ignorants on this platform need try and register in other mature websites,where your faces can be seen so that you can be seen and can also see how mature and lettered people inform one and another without provocation.
And, it only showed you have problem of inferiority complex because it seems you and your likemind(s) that click on like botton of yours did not grow up without learning or mingling with the well cultured elders. A shame, isn't it? . nyway, as I and others with potent research work had informed you and others who are the unstudied minds like you need cover up your faces in shame because Yorubas are Omoluabis but you aren't. Iruru òbé gbégírí
Perhaps, the uncultured lifestyle of demdem has made you redundant in understanding the Yoruba worldview. So tighten up your seatbelt because you will soon read the mystery that God has revealed to the chosen generation of Ibri-Ivri(migrant descendants). Please, worry yourself not since you arent yoruba but Ibo because,this thing will remain a mystery to you forever no matter how you see the information. After all, Oonis in the past have claimed Yoruba are the ancestors of mankind,which is supported by part of IFA Corpus but no evidence to proof.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 2:50pm On Jan 19|
another desperate attempt but finally you actually have learnt something for once in your life . first time you are giving a reference(even though it was the one i directed you too)
yet in your typical lying and cherry picking fraudulent nature you ignored this part
"In linguistics, cognates are words that have a common etymological origin. A cognate etymon need not be inherited directly from a proto-language; the etymon can be borrowed from some other language, in which evolution produces cognate forms. For example, the English word dish and the German word Tisch ("table "wink are cognates because they both come from Latin discus, which relates to their flat surfaces. Cognates may have evolved similar, different or even opposite meanings, but in most cases there are some similar letters in the word. "
Also the part you put in bold do not support your claim of Iberu being cognate of Hebrew and Iber as "Dish" "Tisch" and "Discus" all relate to a flat surface, both "Iberu", "Iber" and "Hebrew" have nothing in common.
keep exposing yourself
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 2:55pm On Jan 19|
you don't know anything about the yoruba, you are more jewish than yoruba so keep quiet
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:12pm On Jan 19|
So,you are the real Yoruba? . You are a clown grandeur. But know it that most of you are ignorant of what God is doing through some of us with our humility.
Mr, I am not online for fun as you find joy in it but I am online to inform what I have researched. So, trust me, my work will solemnly hit the stand.
Let me ask you,the followig:
1.Did Yoruba borrowed and yorubanise àpátá from ‘,petros', and the word ‘Petra' from Greek?
2. Why is Peter turned to pètèrù in Yoruba Bible? .
Well, I am only a code breaker by the grace of God and doing cognate matching with Yorubas. And I thank God because he has been helpful through inspiration from the above.
Let me say to you that the yoruba Bible was translated from English Bible. Now ponder over this about Yoruba.
borrowed this word:
Greek: petra: stone, mass of rock
Greek: petros: rock, stone
English: Peter: rock
Yoruba: àpàtà:rock,rocky stone,mountain
This how people like you who think yoruba are from outerspace will always find it hard to see in between the thing line. Instead of you people realise that the Paleo Hebrew language was the foundational language of the Yoruba, which Western researchers are battling with its recontruction of earliest of the Paleo Hebrew which some of are seeing through the archaic Yoruba language of the Yorubas. No wonder, some scholars said the Yorubas once lived between the earliest Hebrews and the Kemets(old Egyptians). Perhaps, you can use ‘google' to help yourself since youare proud of Wikipedia as your best source to know one out of many scholars that said so about ancient Yorubas over many decades ago.
Olaochi, studying is a backbone to knowledge acquisition.
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|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:39pm On Jan 19|
Olu317:is Petros now a paleo-hebrew word? What scholars in 2018/19 are these?
since you do not want to use English Bible anymore, you should remember the names of characters in the English bible need to be rendered in their correct original form too, don't just shift from English bible to Greek and Hebrew as it suits you
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 8:46pm On Jan 19|
You forgot where I first refer you back to what cognates was last year? Please go back a bit on this thread and you'll see it. Remember when and how Olu try to make you see meaning in cognates? and you came back here saying if that is true, your japaneses words are cognates, it is not the first time, but it is a proof that you lack retentive ability.
I know you are dancing around in circle, exposing yourself as the true definition of cognitive parallax, changing from one straw to another straw. Anyone who read you can actually sees that you lack perception, but its an opportunity to teach you by and by.
Next to what you quoted "cognate etymon [iberu] need not be inherited directly from a proto language [hebrew, aramaic]; the etymon can be borrowed from some other language, [latin, Greek, Iberus, Iber], in which evolution produces cognate forms" That's pepper stuff.
Now marry that statement to what you have learnt so far that "Cognates may have evolved similar, different or even opposite meanings, but in most cases there are some similar letters in the word". If not, go back to your sour vomit as usual.
Put it at the back of your mind that its iberia (Iber) that connect us to this latest quest. I am sure you still remember that I burst your ego when you took credit for an unfinished business on wiki. You don't know what iber means, because you don't have it figured out on wiki.
See, your brain petered where the source stopped, you can't make progress on your own because you are an educated derelict, you have to be spoonfed online for all you know, hence you are limited to everything you can make do with each of my post, no extra effort but polemics.
Please, how did your online dictionary define iberu? Whats the role of a Yoruba producer in a Yoruba movie, is it an alakooso? Is alakooso a new Yoruba word created for the industry? What does the prefixs "iba-" means in ibadan?
You can't go on again, I'll engage you on this to keep you spellbond till I get you make claims upon claims to refute your own claims. Wiki does not work for fools, but for the intellectuals.
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 10:05pm On Jan 19|
absoluteSuccess:Look how you forcefully insert "Iberu" as an etymon
and Hebrew, Aramaic as proto-languages you are big fool honestly, you have no understanding of these terms and keep exposing your desperation.
This post of yours is so incoherent and brings many issues.
Hebrew and Aramaic are proto-languages of what modern languages? let me guess, Yoruba? how come Yoruba have two mother languages. And where is your proof of this?
And what does 'Iberu' mean in Yoruba and what does it mean in Greek and use that to support your argument, if you can't then you have nothing again as always. Stop dragging an argument you lost before it even began. This claim is too big for you to see to the end as all your claims
Let me just clear your misunderstanding and teach you another thing. Cognate etymon has to be a word that birthed another like a mother and her offspring, earlier you claimed Iber/Iberia was cognate with Iberu now you claim Iberia is an etymon(of which word?) from Greek and Latin and also in same statement that Iberu too is an etymon(of which word?) so what exactly is the connection and origin of Iber and Iberu? because you are still stuck there
If Iberu and Iber are etymons of the same word that means they must have the same meaning traceable to the same language, your post here is confusing and that is what you do when you run out of ways to defend yourself, you become incoherent, chose one, which one because all the languages you are lumping together are actually different, then how did you find out that these words are cognates and etymons without any material to work with? let me guess you guessed they must be connected because they sound alike in your head and you see that the words have similar letters? without even knowing how they sound in their various languages or a traceable structure to how the words are connected?
still you have not given the offspring word, or let me guess, 'hebrew' is the offspring word? if that is the case you just made things even more complicated because now you have to use etymology to connect all three words(Iber, Iberu and Hebrew) from all these languages together and bring out a single language as the language that the word originates from . You are so ignorant and desperate to save face that is the source of your inconsistency
|Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 12:10am On Jan 20|
As difficult for you to understand,so shall it be unto you forever. Like I said, it will always be difficult for you to know anything! Even with the slightest unknown information of old Greek,which was what Jesus-Yesua-Esua-Esu used during his era. Have you no knowledge the Greek language was where the Paleo Hebrew history became more pronounced? As disspointing as usual. Well, the Roman-Greek, controlled the Hebrew's Juda's colony during Jesus time, whose language was intertwined with the local's Aramaic language which was the lingua franca during Jesus era,which is known as New Testament .... As you can see, I am only teaching you what you don't know and it is not necessarily Hebrew language.
Kindly look into the mirror to stare at it to give yourself a hard knock on the head for this unstudied attitude of yours, despite your songs of being super rich . What a boastful and arrogant man.
Until, you know how to understudy the on going reconstruction of Paleo Hebrew before you can understand a bit of what we are trying to teach you and your likeminds. Little do you know, that the archaic Hebrew is actually a reconstruction through Paleo Hebrew linguists . And everything else is a mirage
Enjoy the screenshot of Greek word that is cognate with Yorubas.
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