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allCopacetic:
The forwarding company i use runs off an automated system that has your Name and email as a root for every registered customer to which every other thing is tied. You dont even need to notify them of a shipment. Once an item is received the tracking and package information is immediately inputed into thier system and then registered into the account of the owner. In the case where you want to leave specific instructions for a particular package, you simply send details and tracking number via the email address they have on file for you.Once the package arrives and tracking number is entered into thier system. they see your pending instruction. Even the invoice is generated automatically and sent to your email once shipment is despatched.
You should explore such an option going forward.

agarawu23:
Pls, don't mistake me for another person, I don't hide in alternate moniker to talk my own. I ain't a coward!

allCopacetic:
Just seeing this.
Its good to know this issue was resolved amicably, I'd like to weight in non the less.

First off, Mr infinitikocept for someone who obviously considers himself a serious businessman your reaction is quite rash. What you're telling prospective customers basically is.. If we do bussiness and an altercation or disagreement occurs I go change am for you. Which means as a customer i cannot trust you to put my interest first. If you don't understand the importance and tact of placating an irate customer, especially one who has a good reason to be irate, then your customer service is D.O.A . Any good C.E.O knows this.
A costumer can be abusive and aggressive under certain circumstances, it is your responsibility to calmly defuse the situation.

Now to the technicalities of the disagreement. In all honesty before any just law court or arbitration party, 44chux is completely absolvable of any blame.

Why?

This is his defence:
Your documented exchange point to the following facts:
-He clearly requested Sea freight for said item
-you agreed to the said means of shipping and billed him accordingly.
- you in no way indicated or intimated him with a change in prior agreement, neither did he consent to any.

And your defence is:
- you forgot
- He did not remind you

Clearly that argument holds little water. Because it is neither his fault that you forgot, nor is it his responsibility to remind you.
The way i see it, likely scenario was that your guys at the US end shipped the stuff without knowledge of your seafreight agreement with 44chux, and when you discovered, it was too late. Although to be fair to you, the system you operate makes things a lil difficult for you.

The forwarding company i use runs off an automated system that has your Name and email as a root for every registered customer to which every other thing is tied. You dont even need to notify them of a shipment. Once an item is received the tracking and package information is immediately inputed into thier system and then registered into the account of the owner. In the case where you want to leave specific instructions for a particular package, you simply send details and tracking number via the email address they have on file for you.Once the package arrives and tracking number is entered into thier system. they see your pending instruction. Even the invoice is generated automatically and sent to your email once shipment is despatched.
You should explore such an option going forward.

I truly understand that the amount in question is large and would obviously be difficult for you to shoulder alone. But holding goods paid for to ransom and engaging him verbally wasnt smart.

I ship items interstate to customers too and on occasions where I don't have time to check breakable items before despatch or i didn't remember to ask the client to inspect at pickup point before leaving. I have had to replace goods at no cost to the customer, even though i know it could have been broken/damaged during installation. Just for the sake of peace and a cordial relationship.

mavinc4u:
Gentlemen, please lets settle everything amicably, mistakes has been made already so this To and fro comments will not lead us any where.
@ 44chux, please change the incompetence in the subject to mistake. Also try and calm down because if you guys didn't settle this amicably and you decide to leave him for another shipper, do you know what awaits you there? you might miss all the good things he has been doing for you while you are with him and when look back you will wish that what happened today never happened.
@infinitikoncept, please try and forgive and move on. people can say any thing in this recession as long as it concerns money . If you succeed with the Sunday ultimatum then time shall come when you will miss 44chux in your business and wished you never took the earlier decision. At times is not good to make decisions when you are angry or even over happy. Just calm down and you guys will sort it out.
In life when you weigh the good and bad side of someone and if his good side supersedes his bad side then you should let any issue you have with that person go.
you guys should leave the blame and bury the hatchet then come to a compromise. Don't let all our communal effort be in vain.

dragnet:
everyone dey talk say u gentle but this one that you want to be sounding like god ain't too good, I've been in your shoes(not shipping shoes o) before and I can relate, but your client is trying to mend fence but you seem to be blocking all means for that to occur.

Infinitikoncept:
As I said I won't move those stuffs an inch beyond any park of your choice as far as you can provide someone to come pick it up for you & verify the TV screen is solid so you won't come back saying it got broken when I sent it & I'll have to bear damages.
For our hilux to be used to transport it down to Warri is a NO NO. Its December & we have our hands full so make we dey run our Lagos jejely.
My best advice get a friend who has a combi bus & fuel his bus & provide emolument cox at the end if that screen gets broken cox of the way all this transport coy handles goods your case is OYO especially if you don't add insurance to it.
As per the choices I gave you its the flint of your imaginationinverter ems eroded with perceived thinking & let's assume its that way have you exhausted all means of resolving it before u draw out blood?
Thank God its not our first transaction & you can bear witness if I don't have anything @ least I have listening ears & empathy but as I've told you since you are the first to draw blood without counting your losses then prepare well cox by sunday my own time will come as well so enjoy your own grace period or do u know Ao long it took before u paid for the last one? Have I ever asked for demurrage? There are those I even give their goods to & collect shipping fee from them later just to ease off stress so if you are not the type trying to play smart you should know that.
You have paid fully for all items except inverter & the other means you used is your worst mistake & I hope you learn from it in the future cox those who know me well know I'm not for the other means but if you bring that side of me out you will see the devil advocate.

Infinitikoncept:
Not everyone exchanges words same way u do.
The term Messiah is the inverter we have been waiting for & its not you. Shey dem package & send u from China wey I go dey expect you. Mtcheew
Since you say u don't know the cost but u can still calculate it well you made a little error its 184lbs @ 4.5$ & the exchange rate is #450 not the #420 you quoted yourself.
So feel free to arrange for your fully paid items as I can't hold them for any reason

condomuser:
I don't understand why Nigerians always bring personal business transactions into public domain.

Nobody here will solve your problems, it is only you and the other party that will solve it. STOP looking for sympathy.

The only condition why you should bring it to the public is if he stole from you. Check the date you placed your order and the date he mentioned your order arrived and if it corresponds to air shipment pay for air shipment finished.

dragnet:
Obviously, none of you wants to take the blame even though both of you have your shortcomings but I wouldn't want us to dwell much on that because business must continue, this experience would only shape decisions in future, you guys should compromise and meet yourselves midway so that everyone walks away without too much scratches.

Infinitikoncept:
My last call to you was the one you got last. If I mistakenly call you on the inverter issue make breeze blow my Nokia torchlight phone away. U think say I get that time & FYI its d last time I'm replying you. I've dropped the address for pick up to you so feel free to come over or send someone. Next week sunday we will know who will call the other on the inverter issue & by three weeks time we will see the person spewing nonsense

Bookiemart01:
Chai.... I think you and Infinitikoncept have to reach a compromise cos truth is, he shipped by air and he has paid the company for that... Do you really want him to collect $55 from you because he said that's what it'll cost if shipped by sea shipping? I know Infinitikoncept to be cool headed if you truly told him he was saying nonsense all the times he called you, it wasn't fair
You should have tracked your item to know the details of the inverter (I guess this is a lesson for next time)


Oga Infinitikoncept.... Please you and 44chux should reach a compromise.... 90kg dey high ooo

Infinitikoncept:
Chukwudi knows me well enough than this. Even on his TV I shielded him despite the fact I have a $3000 PayPal limitation in which it was Eghosa that helped me pacify the guy I collected 220k upfront from on a PhD project. I still dey owe the guy 20k sef. Lols
When his TV involved signing a waiver that if the screen gets damaged in transit cox I no one insure at 10% or so the TV worth I called him & we walked through it. Everyone shouted on me during that period cox of their goods waiting to be cleared due to the exchange rate. Person wey I show mercy na #450 cox I had to use black market to clear cox I'm late already and I can't use dorm account ultimate search for USD yet he was charged #390 & $4 against #459-470 & $4.5/lbs.
Oga dragnet I never knew it was the Messiah that was coming cox as him get problem naso me sef get problem with my staffs wey one send me back to the village. Yesterday was when I became active on Nland again not cox I no one watch season film of scams, gains & loss but 24 hours no do me again but since he has come Nairaland & let go of mutual problem solving process he is free to come for his TV, sounsbars & other stuffs since they are well packaged but if that inverter spends another seven days I'll start counting demurrage.
The inverter belongs to him he should track it not me and as per weight u can ask darecool what he buys. Chukxx weight na joke. I dare not post some people weight online cox they told me not to but that him less than 200lbs na small thing compared to what some goons dey bring in as air cargo.
Mr chukxx arrange for your TV pick up & tell whoever is coming to bring a plier along. We open d box he checks the screen and we can even provide light for him to test it that he tool it in sound & safe condition.
Madam Bookiemart01 me I don hear you. If to say I no call the guy they form stupid humility & do like the Kong of shipping I'm sure he will say I proud but as I don mumu tell him we should solve it as matured goons and he feels he is innocent while I'm wrong then OYO is his case

44chux:
I have called him out on his thread

lazinny:
1)going by your story, the agent is at fault. And you shouldn't pay for his mistakes but then, in business there are compromises.
2)It's just your side of the story here. You have to mention the agent and invite him here for your case to be handled appropriately.

aieromon:
What type of advice are you looking for? Do you have proof of your agreement? The shipper can claim ignorance as his main mode of business is shipping by air. And indeed,he has shipped your consignment to your location.

Thanks.

lazinny:
Who is shouting front page Imagine Nairaland if front-page is filled with business disputes.

Tabbaz:
EXCEL1231

Though you make several points, but all your assumptoin are not substantiated. In fact, non of your view is corroborated and your premise is flawed.

I repeat again. WARRIBLOOD is a BLOODY SCAMMER - Trade with him at your own risk

Another Suspect spotted - EXCEL1231

I have my evidences against both of them and the proof is tenable at the court of law. I am not working alone, I am just the one that re-ignite the fight against Scamming which stated after I was scammed. Notable members that have more experience in this forum are supporting my campaign and working in silent mode.

Thanks to those that have replied Escel

I was busy with trade I would have come to the forum since cos I was informed when the op started his campaign against me.\

Thanks

P.S. My evidence against the two above will be summarized in about 5 pages and submitted to the mod in charge of scam

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Gunbiz:
can we have this on front page?