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McUsman, what independence did "Palestine" declare?
Arabs were given the choice to form their own nation beside Israel in 1947, we all know who rejected this firmly prefering to go to war.
The WestBank and Gaza were under Egypt and Jordan yet ur "palestinians" did not think it imperative to declare independence?

What independence are they declaring? Have palestinian arabs as a cultural identity ever existed? Can arabs just go to Lagos and declare independence from Nigerian occupation?

The rest of my life Brian McKnight

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Absolutely breathtaking songwriting.

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Enjoy.

Now i know why most men want to test drive the car before paying.

stillwater:
Why should anyone spend his school fees to buy expensive cakes on a girl he's not even sure of? That is so So because of cakes, you expect her to jump all over him?

as unbelievable as it sounds it happens all the time. Ask Knzguru those are probably his most loyal clients.

stillwater:
Not necessarily N13,000. Are you forgetting workmanship?

The workmanship is too expensive, i'm sure you can get someone who can do even better for free.
I cant count how many guys bought those cakes in college only to end up with a big fat NO after the greedy girls had finished consuming the poor fellow's school fees.

stillwater:
Thanks for the lecture, icing sugar adds its own flavour making the cake more sweeter. A plain cake isn't that attractive. Are you that old that you throw away icing sugar?

You dont have to be old to throw away junk food. just being health conscious is enough, but hey i still eat my icing sugar any day.  
A plain cake shldnt cost more than N2000 at most . . . how much would icing cost? N13,000?

stillwater:
As if it would be as beautiful like the one in the pictures

the essence of the cake is not the beauty of the icing sugar. Most of the time it ends up being thrown away.

morenike09:
david is cheap. you no know? i told him to buy me a Lexus for val, the guy fainted!!

buying a lexus for u? that is not my duty . . . when did i marry u?

knzguru, i looked at the prices of the cakes and i now understand why most of my friends always went broke after valentine.
A cake for N15,000? I could bake that myself for less than N5000.

lol Christiely you didnt say if u also lived in London or u're in Nigeria.
That shldnt matter much though, i think ur fella is tired of u. If a guy ignores u on Val's day then i tell u nothing for u AT ALL.

What's all the hullabaloo about men running from women who intimidate them? Maybe as teens that was possible but as an adult if u like a woman you'll go for her intimidating or not. Most women who hide under the banner of "intimidation" are just people with rude and unbearable attitudes . . . expect men to stay far away from such. If you have a great character and men see something in you they know they must have they will chase you to the end of the world.

About calling or not. Here's a fact u shld know . . . if u call a guy and he doesnt as much as acknowledge it . . . he doesnt respect u. Dont waste ur time with such.

tpaine:
You have a strange definition for the word hypocrite. I don't say one thing and knowingly behave in a way that is contrary to way I say. That is what hypocricy means.

I was making several points here;

1) Either Jesus did not say these word but were put in his lips by the scribes
2) If he did, then he himself was hypocritical, for he calls for the obedience of the laws yet he violate them by not asking his disciples to wash their hands before eating
3) If he expected the Pharisees to keep the laws of Moses, then he was wicked.

1. He did say those words.
2. Christ NEVER once called on the Jews to go obeying the dead commandments . . . the purpose of His coming in the first place was to use Himself as the perfect sacrifice for sin (the sacrifice for sin under the law was the blood of bulls and goats) . . . Infact one of the accusations the pharisees level against Christ is that He was breaking the laws (i.e the sabath, eating with unwashed hands, sitting to eat bread with publicans and sinners).
He came that no longer would we be subject to the laws of Moses but that our hearts may be renewed.
3. Infact it was the pharisees accusing Him of not keeping the laws of Moses.

tpaine:
Verses 11- 13 even makes it worse. Corban, is the practice whereby children could dedicate something to God in order to release them from the obligation of looking after their parents. This was considered a dishonour to ones parents, because something dedicated to God could not be redeem (until a jubilee).

So Jesus is saying children have been so dishonouring their parents and the Pharisees have been tolerating this, rather than punish the children, presumably with the death penalty.

How else do you interpret this?

He was not indicting the pharisees and calling them sinners for not punishing their children . . . rather He was using it in comparison to the earlier accusation of the pharisees.
Read on context mr tpaine.

and oh by the way thou hypocrite . . . how many christians have put their children to death for cursing them? Do you have any specific example in the bible were this was ever practiced?

morenike09:
Yoruba (yes, am very fluent in it and can speak it well ), English, and a little French, and a little tiny pidgin

uh oh!

tpaine:
Jesus is implying that the have abandoned 'Honor your father and your mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'

Jesus never implied the rubbish you attribute to Him. Take off your blinkered glasses . . . Jesus Christ was simply saying to the pharisees . . . you people dont kill those who curse their parents, a part of Moses' law, because u say well maybe the boy didnt mean it or perhaps he was only trying to humor his parents or it was a gift . . . why then do you accuse my disciples of eating with unwashed hands? What if there were no water . . . shld they then starve?

The complete explanation is in verses 11-13 which you have mischievously, deliberately and dishonestly decided to omit in favour of your own preconcieved ideas.

tpaine:
Why would Jesus pronounce these two laws in the same breath? Did he mean that the one should be obeyed and not the other. Did he mean that both should be obeyed, or both abandoned?

He was only referencing Exodus to make a point . . . He was not teaching about the law.

tpaine:
I leave that for you to sort out. There is a grander point I was making here which has escaped you comprehension.

Your grand point is really no more than another bible smear campaign couched in pretended scholarship.

ko soro:
Up Pompey!

Yup up Pompey!

Gamine:
When you answer why the typical black man is lazy
we will give you an answer

That is a figment of ur imagination. The typical black Nigerian male is not known to be lazy.

Afam:
Every nation reserves the right to exist and every person reserves the right to live. These are fundamental facts that all parties must understand.

If only the leftists and anti-semitic posters here extended this same "rights" to the jews. I'm sure any right thinking person shld be outraged that Hamas continues to fire a minimum of 50 rockets AIMED PRIMARILY AT DEFENCELESS ISRAELI CITIZENS every single day.

But of course . . . that would be expecting too much from the self-righteous hypocrites.

tpaine:
CAn you explain what Jesus meant then?

No tpaine, such explanation is wasted on a lost soul.
Please read the chapter IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT before just jumping to erroneous conclusions.

The issue in Mark 7 was not about that law but about whether it was lawful to eat bread with unwashed hands (which was against the laws of Moses). Look at verse 5 for the ORIGINAL QUESTION that prompted Christ's explanation.

And to think you accuse christians of having addled minds unable to comprehend simple facts. Do you even bother to study before you come up with ur tripe?

tpaine:
That Jesus is familiar with this law comes as no surprise to me, given his judaic schooling. However, what is shocking is that rather than disown or abrogate this law, Jesus gives it resounding approval; Look at Mark 7: 9 - 13

9 And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother, and, 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.' 11 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother: 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is Corban' (that is, a gift devoted to God), 12 then you no longer let him do anything for his father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."

tpaine it's really a shame. Did you bother to read Mark 7 thoroughly at all? Did you know that Christ was merely explaining a completely separate point (responding to the query the pharisees brought to Him in verse 5) while using the law in Exodus as an example to point out the hypocrisy of those who paraded themselves as custodians of the laws of Moses?

OMO IBO:
true talk _{especially the black ones}

On the balance the typical black woman is more aggressive.
Any reason why this is so?

bawomolo:
indeed, funny how hamas refuses to attend any of these conferences, funny how hamas has been the one to break the truces then bitch about israel "agression". but israel is the one that supposed to work with hamas. fatah is a much more credible organization than hamas.

they are no different . . . one is outright honest about its intentions to drive the jews into the sea . . . the other couches such language in flowery words of deciet about peace.

RichyBlacK:
Of course, didn't you know?

Immediately any Israeli leader starts taking the "show" too seriously he will be dispatched to the world beyond. Yitzhak Rabin was just an example.

You'd think Hamas and co were so desperate for peace talks the way this man deliberately chooses to obfuscate issues.

RichyBlacK:
So Israel is now ready to discuss with Hamas? This is what I'm talking about. Israel needs to start thinking along these lines.

You mean the Hamas that fired celebratory gun shots in the air and distributed sweets in the streets as soon as news filtered in on the latest terror attack in Israel?

RichyBlacK:
Hey! That's a big lie! You shielded yourself by putting Palestinians in quote, but that's a lie. Just because one individual was forced by a menacing Hitler who was on the verge of conquering all of Europe does not mean that the Palestinians supported Israel.

This is pitiful attempt at trying to establish a connection between the massacre of Jews (and many others) and the Palestinian people of today. Please stop this shameful attempt. The Israeli Jews can go to the European graves of those who masterminded the pogrom against Jews and not blame the peaceful people of Palestine. Tufiakwa for all of una Zionists!

This man is not only confused . . . perhaps he is sleep walking.

Tornadoz:
The onus is on you to produce Jewish casulties in this one sided conflict, or doesn't your ghoulish nature accept Jewish images.

hundreds of thousands of Biafrans died during the 3-yr Nigerian civil war with precious few casualties on the Nigerian side. going by your logic, the civil war was thus unjust and completely one-sided (as if wars are supposed to be proportional) . . .  may i therefore suggest that the FG of Nigeria produce her own casualties during the war or go back to fight the war all over again and ensure that exactly equal number of casualties are recorded on both sides.

Satisfied now Tornadoz? You must be drinking beer again this night. Its not good for your health.

RichyBlacK:
Israel will continue to suffer from a siege mentality until it renounces its superiority complex and try to work with its neighbors.

Israel has lasted this long because of American support, and it fool be phenomenally foolish for the Israeli leaders to rely on this support in perpetuity.

bla . . . u're simply repeating the tired old mantra of blind leftists who like to blame global warming on Israel.
Please proffer solutions . .  HOW can Israel get Hamas to the round table to discuss peace?

Tornadoz:
A school of thought now believe Hitler knew these creatures better than the rest of us.

I'd wager you didnt know the "palestinians" were once cohorts with Hitler himself.

Tornadoz:
This is rich coming from someone who wouldn't believe speeches made by former Israeli leaders. You really want me to believe this "photoshop" doctored images produced by the IDF? Pull another one.

Sir, these aerial images are readily available on youtube if your partisanship would allow you to view something that puts ur blind support of the terror gangs of death in better perspective.

About the speeches . . . i produced the FULL copy of the speech . . . did u even bother to read it and notice the glaring differences with ur obviously doctored "quote"?

Tornadoz:
You don't fire indiscriminately and claim arms are stored in School yards. Ariel Sharon is wanted in Europe for war crimes.

Arms have been found in private homes, mosques and schools in Gaza. There are aerial photographs showing rocket launches being used in markets in Gaza and Lebanon.

Tornadoz:
SOME FACTS ABOUT OUR PEACEFUL JEWISH BROTHERS
In 2006 they Jews killed 140 Palestinian kids (Zero Israeli kid was killed)
Last year the Jews killed and maimed nearly 100 Palestinian kids (Zero Israeli kid was killed)
This year they've managed less than (even though its only march) 10
Its the Jewish killing machine grounding to a halt?

the leftists are back playing the numbers game to confuse the gullible.
That few Jews have been killed despite the incessant Arab attacks is due primarily to the fact that the Jews take citizenship welfare VERY SERIOUSLY . . . her neighbours on the other hand prefer to use dead babies as tools for their propaganda trade.

Besides . . . khatyusha rockets can only go so far.

RichyBlacK:
4Him, the problem is that you seem to reduce development to ONLY economic indices.

The economic indices are clearly on par with those of industrialised western nations and dwarf that of even oil producers like Saudi Arabia. What are the indices for Gaza, Jordan, the westbank or even Syria?

RichyBlacK:
How about cultural development, tourism,

Israel is one of the top tourist destinations in the world. Despite the problem of terrorists and the danger of plane hijackings, an average of 2.5million visitors visit Israel each yr.

RichyBlacK:
perception of Israelis in the wider world (do you know how unsafe Israelis feel holding their Israeli passport and traveling not on any of the Israeli airlines)

The only place Israelis feel unsafe is in mus'lim nations. Its not hard to understand why . . . just turn the pages of the k'oran.

RichyBlacK:
socio-cultural interaction with its neighbors, etc.

You mean Gaza and Hizbollah's Lebanon or Syria? Her neighbours who dont recognise her existence?

RichyBlacK:
Also, most of the economic development you point to has been fueled by the deliberate support of the US.

FALSE! Israel had a revenue of $48.38 billion in 2006, equivalent US aid to Israel was $120 million (less than 0.3% of total revenue).