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olabowale:
@4Him: Yet the final Bible is still being written as we speak. Am very certain there is a newer versions, editions and revisions in the future of the BIBILE!

Either you show us proof of this "final bible" or you accept ur title as the most dishonest man i've ever met.
Where were you hypocrites when pilgrim.1 was asking you to validate ur many versions of the kooran?

Since when did females lose the right to have sex on their first date?
If you think its cheap then u shld have trodden the path of honor, told her to save it for the next date.

Sun God:
Hmm let me see!

1. How many atheists do you know that has won an election?

Joseph Stalin, Hitler . . . just to mention a few of ur heroes.  

Sun God:
2. How many atheists do you know that grown up around you

Too numerous to mention.

Sun God:
3. How many atheists do you have as friends

Several. For a yr i didnt see the insides of a church myself in college when i was still searching for who God really was.

Sun God:
4. How many atheists can come out in public and say they don't believe in god and they are not looked down upon like AIDS patients

atheists already have books and websites dedicated to them . . . u must be in denial.

Sun God:
5. How many atheists do you know that can question any of the pastors and imams and not get stoned, burnt, imprisioned or killed

Reserve this question for the mooslims . . . who burnt, imprisoned you or threatened u with death for rubbishing the bible? It seems to be everyone's pastime today eh . . . even Dan Brown has made millions from it and he aint dead yet.

Sun God:
6. How many times have you seen a questionnaire that includes all the religions and adds atheisms

Pls ask them to include it next time.

Sun God:
7. How many families can openly accept their kids are athiests

Its not the fault of the church now is it? Ask your parents to accept you . . .

Sun God:
8. How many athiests can marry into a religious home

Depends on the individual u're marrying.

Sun God:
Please my friend, you have nothing to say. In case you don't know, the people that fight to ban prayers in public places are religious fundamentalists of a different faith that are trying to protect their territorial grounds.

Your incoherent rambling disguised as "having something to say" is hilarious. Dont make a fool of urself, i dont remember anyone being bothered about whether u're an atheist or not.

Sun God:
Wasnt it the largely french christian dominated parliament that fought against a great one girls wearing the hijab in schools?

No, it was a fight for secularism.

Sun God:
The removal of the A.D to B.C.E was largely because of the gaffe christian scholars recognized in their distorted history so as to save face and not necessarily an atheist movement change.

No one is complaining, we have since adjusted our calendars.

Sun God:
All we do is ask rational questions and if you can't answer back, then your delusional. Q.E.D.

a question like "when last did an atheist get elected to office" doesnt sound rational to me.

Sun God:
Abeg stop distorting history or facts and start thinking rationally.

I was just about to raise this too. Maybe we can start from u eh.

. . . and dont forget, you are not obligated to pray before u sleep tonite.

olrotimi:
while i leave you guys to slug i out in this never say die thread, know that bible says you should not be involved in[b] foolish [/b] [color=#990000][/color]arguements esp as pertaining to doctrine and biblicals._{not quoted in toto}

this is not a slugfest. i'm just enjoying needling Sun God. Arguing with the likes of him is a pure waste of precious time.

Here's a simple solution to ur "grievances" . . .

Sun God:
1. I wake up in the morning and hear some freaking Imams disturbing my ear lobes and constituting an early morning    public nuisance. Nobody except me seems to notice and its freaking normal, because they are praying to this freak of nature:

Go warn the imams urself and see if they dont chase you with cudgels.  

Sun God:
2. Switch on the t.v and the first thing you see is a televangelical programme trying to distrupt my early morning news

That's why you have a remote control,, simply flip to the next channel.

Sun God:
3.  Open my gates and guess what an early morning jehovah witness trying to hand me some chick tracts pamplet in a watch tower form

Tell them to leave . . . we all do the same to salesman.  

Sun God:
4. If by some freak of nature i end up taking the public bus to work, i get totally subdued by one raving lunatic preaching all day and raining thunder and brim stone about the wrath of god and hell.

Buy ur own car, wake up early so you can beat the early morning rush.

Sun God:
5. Get to work and the lunatic secretary is trying to organize a 15 minute praise worship to start off the day and inviting me to join in unless business wont move ( As if the stupid prayers had improved the fortunes of the company anyway)

tell the secretary to mind her business.

Sun God:
6. Stupid figure heads all claiming to be some form of clergy men as business men come to the office and start praying for the owner and saying all form of shit blocking my ears.

Shut ur door and turn ur stereo set to the loudest volume, that way u wont have to endure the prayers.

Sun God:
7. Get home from all the madness and once again prayer before supper

Is anyone operating ur mouth for you?

Sun God:
8. Okay about to sleep, prayers before sleeping

Its not by force.

Sun God:
9. Ok am done with the prayers, you get a phone call from an irritaing chick begging you to attend serve with her on sunday

dump the chic and find another one . . . ensure the new one understands the meaning of "spiritual but not religious".

Sun God:
The least goes on and on and on with all this media and personal hoopola about jesus , the great prophet and whatever infilterating my ears all day and haranging me to pray with this or sing with that.

Refuse to buy the papers, make sure ur apartment is nowhere close to a church or mosque, watch only selected channels . . .

Sun God:
Now since i have joined the Rational Response Squad i am enjoying myself now getting back at the fundamentalists with so much happiness and peace of mind and your saying i am devoting my energy to this and breaking a nerve?

Your rantings on this board dont represent a true state of piece of mind.   More like a restless spirit.

Sun God:
Please compadre, i am having a ball. Just the way you irritated me all my life with these psycho babble, i would definately irritate some people. It might not be you for now but i am definately going to make one or 2 people see reason why they should bitch slap anything that preaches the bible or great book near them ever again till they wake up from their delusions.

me? When did we ever meet?  

Sun God:
Now when ever i hear one of those twats preach to me about jesus, this is what i see:

If they every distur u again just slap them.  

See . . . problem solved.  

babs787:
@4him

Who did your God cry to in heaven?

Why did he call Judas a betrayer for speeding up what he came to do?

Why was your God afraid of death and prayed to the extent of sweating?

He died and rose again 2000yrs ago and u are still encamped at Gethsemane?

Sun God:
Oooh! Some people are feeling edgy already, lol

Guess you don't like it when the people say u worship a delusional being huh!

Sun God . . . why would i be feeling edgy? I'm enjoying ur entertaiinment on this thread.
Whether you claim i worship a delusion or not, it really isnt a bother. Enjoy the tomes, it makes for a good reading when i'm less busy.

Why are Atheists treated like Lepers & Second Class Citizens? Because i dont believe in your Religion and ask Questions? So much for "Love your neighbour as your self"!

This was on Sun_God's profile page . . . hmmm i had to chuckle to myself when i saw it. It is no different from the pathetic mooslims who are quick to hide under the skirts of "victimhood", forever crying of "Israeli oppression", western "foreign policy" and alleged "islamophobia" that only exists in their warped minds.

Did Sun God just claim that atheists are treated as second class citizens? This man must be living in the moon . . . the same "second class" citizens who have succeeded in getting prayers banned from public space, banned the wearing of religious (read that to mean christian) symbols in public businesses, the removal of the terms AD replaced by CE and BCE . . .

Wow, this must be some powerful "second class citizens".

Sun God:
Hey cut us some freaking slack

Easy does it mr. no one is arguing with you . . . or telling you not to excercise your freedom of expression.  
I'm just saying not to burst a nerve in the process . . . u seem to be taking it a little too personal especially as you already believe Christ does not exist.

Funny that those who claim to believe that God doesnt exist shld waste so much time struggling to blaspheme and thrash the very concept of theism.
How will u spend half ur life ranting about someone who doesnt exist?

babs787:
@4him
Why do you have eyes yet you do not see?
You have your senses yet cannot use them to think and comprehend but only to create mischief.

Read the hadith and most importantly the area highlighed and grab the meaning. It is very straight forward and self-explanatory.

thou fraud, note that the AREA IN HIGHLIGHTS is enclosed in brackets . . . a CLEAR indication (except to the dishonest) that it was not present in the original text but was placed there by fraudulent "is'lamic scholars" to deceive the gullible.

Thou that hast sense and yet cannot utillise it, the term in highlights indicates "enemies" but we all know that Jews, christians, all non-believers are regarded as "enemies" in is'lam . . . so basically we are back to were we started.

samsonola:
Where in the bible was Jesus recorded to have spent most of his time dancing Going by the way christians today spend most of their time singing and dancing in the church,they must have at least gotten this from Jesus Christ. So did Jesus ever sing and dance when worshiping God. We have to note that Jesus prayed to God in The bible and according to the bible,Jesus asked God that why did He forsake him.

the camp of the enemy is afraid of our praises.

Believe me its not that easy in Ireland with the type of residence we have, we were made to sign an undertaking at the time we were given the residence permit that the granting of the permit does not entitle us to be joined by family members. Its a long story my sister but ICI is making efforts to change things sha. Thanks. 

Her husband was not in the country in 2005 when we were asked to apply for residence permit. Its a long story, we came here with 'big belly' dropped and d 'dropped' were given authomatic citizenship, we the 'dropees' then decided to stay until when they will give us residence permit, they refused to and we refused to leave, in 2004 they had a referendum to stop giving children born in Ireland automatic citizenship and they voted 'yes' then it stopped. Those of us waiting on them with pickins with Irish citizenship were asked to apply for residence permit in 2005 but you have to prove that you have been here since you 'dropped' and blablabla, then we were granted permission to stay for 2 years after 2 years another 3 years and (according to them) after the 3 years you can apply for looooooooong residence. May be by then they will allow us to be joined by family members

After reading this i no longer think your friend needs any pity. Serves you immigration law breakers right.
It is "criminals" like this who make things 100x more difficult for genuine visa seekers in Nigeria to obtain travel permits.

Why did you come to Ireland with a pregnancy with the intention of defrauding the system? If i were an Irish citizen i'd vote to have all of you deported ASAP.

No thanks to you people the US has started the policy of deporting pregnant non-immigrant visa holders at the port of entry.

Tell your friend to go home and stop weeping . . . wasnt she thinking when she signed away her right to have her husband here all because of "papers"?
I no longer blame the poor fellow . . .

babs787:
The bible was written thousand of years after Jesus left the earth

Your penchant for lying is unrivalled. Christ left this earth physically 2000yrs ago.
The books of the old testament were written BEFORE Christ came on earth as the gospels record instances where Christ quoted or made references from the books of Isaiah, Psalms, Jonah and Genesis.

If the bible was written thousands of years after Christ left the earth then it means Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter must have lived for thousands of years . . . besides that would mean that the bible was just written in our time.
Which is false because the dead sea scrolls, centuries old, contain some books of the bible.

babs787:
Which God almighty are you referring to?

Is your God the one that came to die for your sin and was afraid to die to the extent that he went and prayed up to three times and his sweat were as thick as blood?

Is your God the one that called someone a betrayer (Judas) for speeding up what he came to do (die for you)?

Is your God the one that was dragged by his creation to the the place of the skull?

Is your God the one that cried 'my God, why has thou forsaken me? In what way was he forsaken for what he came to?

Is your God the one that God killed on the cross (as put by you christians)?

buddy you just described my God! the Lord of Hosts is His name! Hallelujah!

Danoe:
Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all it's righteousness and all this things will be added unto you Mathew 6:33. The Kingdom of God is love and he who seek him most do that in spirit and in truth. By sharing love, peace and coming together to serve the Lord God Almighty. Every religion talks about the issue of creation and the existence of God and man. I want to observe that we are all human beings but the level of our religious believe is determine by our level of human and God perception. How did man come into existence and who is God is what every religion is talking about but in different context.

I am not a fanatic but I am very proud and comfortable with my religious believe which is the best and the most popular in the World. For the Bible says that we are save by grace through Jesus Christ. And what love is greater than the love of God who gave his life to save us.

I believe in God and the TRINITY but can some body please explain the difference between Holy spirit and Holy ghost?

They are one and the same.

babs787:
Liar. Give me the full quote please.

[size=15pt]Bukhari Vol 4, Book 52: 220:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).[/size]

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cris-ngige:
it is not to be contested: the igbos are the most intelligent people on earth. check out the brainsize.

There are people who function fully with half a brain.

slimtoney:
As Great Ones, we do not embrace the pedophilia,

Pedophilia is not recorded ONCE in the entire bible as you have deceitfully and falsely tried to paint it. However we know of a man who married a 6yr old and disvirgined her at 9. continue burying ur head in the sands.

slimtoney:
rape

Amnon raped his sister Tamar, we all know he was punished severely. Besides that we have no recorded case of rape in the bible as you fraud have tried to paint it. However we know and read of rape cases in the hadiths.

slimtoney:
terrorism

Remind me of the man who famously declared - [size=14pt]"I have been made victorious with terror" . . . Bukhari Vol. 4, Book 52, Number 220[/size]

slimtoney:
and all of the other forms of evil that exist in the Bible

Based on the above, we can conclude that you are merely struggling to read evil into the bible to have a leg to stand on. There is no more evil book that has ever been written than the kooran.

slimtoney:
nor do we believe that the Prophets of God Almighty, peace and blessings be upon all of them, ever committed such cruel acts that are falsely attributed to them.

You fraudulently intend to use the garb of the biblical mighty men of honor to drape over moohammad's evil?

slimtoney:
We're only exposing the corrupted bible and the evil that exists in it

yup and i'm also exposing you fraud.

DRANOEL:
@4him
after isreal bought those lands,they then decided with the help of the west to declare a state which in my opinion was wrong,if the ibos buy land in lagos(up to 80%) and wake up one day to declare lagos as an ibo state will the yorubas take it lightly?

Very risible argument. If i buy a land, is it wrong to build a house, wall off the compound and call it my own? Would you support the landlord trying to lob rockets into the compound and accusing me of "illegal occupation"?
What if i called in the police? would that be an example of a "disproportionate response"?

Lets be candid, the jews bought land in Israel but a lot of the land already belonged to Jews in the first place. Palestinian arabs are yet to show us tangible proof that they have a history on that land that goes beyond 1900.

DRANOEL:
the thing is a paleswtinian state should have been declared first

First Jordan (a 95% arab palestinian nation) was carved out of the existing land (a whopping 85%) in 1922 and given to Saudi Princes. Up until then there was nothing like Jordan.

Secondly the UN now decided to set up both an Israeli state and ANOTHER arab state side by side on the meagre 15% that was left. Israel accepted the unfair decision, the arabs? Your guess is as good as mine, more than 22 arab nations attacked Israel in 1948 and consequently lost the war.

DRANOEL:
then a little portion given to the isrealis

This was precisely what happened in 1948, we all know (well except for mooslims and arabs) who spurned that chance in favour of exterminating what was left of the jews.

DRANOEL:
(much like what obtains in italy with the vatican) and if the us feels so concerned they can carve out a 51st state from their large land and give it to the jews(remember australia)

The US does not need to carve out land for the jews . . . pretty much everything from archeology to history depicts the jewish heritage of that land. Palestinian arabs have absolutely no ties to the land besides being immigrants.

Dora should be allowed to remain in NAFDAC . . . Osotimehin didnt set the world alight at NACA, Lambo is simply old wine in even older bottle.
Is there no one else really?

doyin13:
@4him

I hear those Egbas aint bad at all on those IQ tests either

Remember the JETS competion in secondary school?
By the time i left school in the late 90s Ogun state had won it 7 times out of 8.

The best secondary students always invariably came from Ogun state, Lagos, Oyo once in a blue moon and some of the guys from the gifted children school in Suleja.
The Hausas were just irretrievably poor!
The igbos just a little above average.

doyin13:
What about Ekiti people?

Every household seemingly has a professor

living on past glory.

Clinton will now have to duck her head and run across the political tarmac as she aims to avoid the media's sniper fire.

i'm going to skip the fellow above me
Man that Nana chic is cuteee!

The asians are perhaps the most intelligent race. They do amazingly good on IQ test scores.

DRANOEL:
so how come there was talk of them buying lands from the arabs to come back.

How come Israel is then accused of "illegally occupying" Palestine?

DRANOEL:
guy do you know the land area of ancient timbuktu? and do you know the area they are now occupying?
stop bringing historical maps to this issue,do you know the present occupants of england now werent the original natives?

Straw man alert!
Should we also send the Jordanians back to Mecca seeing they even occupy more than 5 times the size of Israel?

DRANOEL:
the jewish state has been in existence for 3000yrs?
and how long has the kanem bornu empire been in existence? yet parts of it are now occupied by hausas and fulanis,what of the original oyo empire(present day ilorin) that was captured by the fulanis?should we now try and reclaim the old oyo nempire?

Israel, as a nation, has been well defined for 3000yrs.
They have always had a distinct culture, well defined boundaries and maps dating back to more than 2000yrs ago . . .

You can cry from now till next yr.

olanajim:
I tell you, if I go to profile, and I hardly do unless I want to run character test on Mr annonymous, the MOST important thing I check is their past and recent posts. From there, I know if a fellow is worth my time.

excellent point.

I dont think the woman should go back home. Go back to what? Will she get a job the next day she returns?
Where will money to feed, pay rent and send the kids to school come from?

I agree with Vigasimple's point, go home on a holiday with the kids for a month or so and talk to the husband . . . perhaps he hasnt gotten a job in 5yrs because he'd put all his eggs in the visa basket. Its time for him to do more than just issuing threats, should the marriage end today he'd be the ultimate loser.

Go with the second guy. If he doesnt care so much about you now neither will he do so when u're married to him for life.