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HEHEHEHEHEEH!!!!

here they come!!!! NL never disappoints. its been quite a while since the last major war, especially one involving tex. i just couldnt resist baiting him and boi did he bite!!!

anyways lets see,

firstly i have played with one HTC i saw with an acquaintance for like 5 minutes, and i also tried the emulator way back around the launch so those were my basis for experience. i want to believe you folks actually own one of the fones and as such know better.

moonraker:
Very Disappointed Bro, I mean i really held u in high esteem. First, let me ask u a question. ever played with the Wp7 OS?? or even the phone??

Becos without understanding the concept behind an OS, its would be wrong to pass judgement. Thats why we human beings have brains.

There is nothing wrong with the Wp7 OS. It is the best poo ever to come out from MS. The Plain Blue Tiles you so described are called APPS.

And you can download more from the WIndows Marketplace. and customize your home screen based on the apps you run the most. The rest of the

apps are hidden inside the OS.

pardon me moonraker, didnt know i had a reputation to protect on NL, that statement was wildly off the mark and distasteful. nevertheless, i will try my best to disappoint you further.

i didnt get the memo for the "concept behind the OS". so we can say i'm ignorant on that point. but what i am is an end user, who really cannot be arsed if wp7 is the new way to meet God. i evaluate it vis-a-vis my tastes, experiences with other phones/OS'es, and frankly i found the concept ludicrous.
looked different, sure, but not my idea of a winning design. and fyi, i dont even like desktop widgets on my pc.

if its the best to come out of redmond, sure, i agree, question is: is this best at this very moment good enough to displace others?

u know what i have come to realize about this deal, MS is counting on the fact that Nokia moves volumes worldwide. people are simply loyal to the brand e.g nigeria when u hear people tell u "buy nokia" without a simple coherent reason why buying that nokia is better than buying say HTC

moonraker:
Let me ask you another question. When IOS and Android OSes were introduced, where they full fledged OSes??

Didnt they have their own share of problems and missing Functions?? ahhh i remember when i bought my first

Android Phone (HTC Magic to be specific, This wasnt even the first Android Phone), i couldnt connect to my ad hoc

network. Even the The IOS didnt have common copy and paste until version 3.0.

oh, frankly YOU are going round in a circle. and this point is similar to the one tex made about the coming updates. that is THE POINT, they are trying to get to where others are at this present time, i suppose the others will simply sit buy and wait for them to catch up first then start afresh

what i have basically pointed out is that WP7 is not a finished article with regards to the type of issues you have raised above, and certainly i am refusing to judge it based on that singular fact.

what i was trying to say is that I do not trust MS to deliver those enhancements without flaws and issues, and that as far as i was concerned, it was too much of a gamble for nokia to put all their eggs in that basket

i would have preferred a situation where nokia left themselves options, but then with a 1 billion dollar deal who needs options

i have NOT SAID WP7 IS BAD OR WILL NOT BE GOOD. (IN THAT NIRVANA FUTURE) i have expressed my doubts that it will be or that MS will take it there in one piece.
MS can afford this thing to fail, Nokia cannot!!!

moonraker:
You make it sound as if The MS cannot catch up with the rest of the pack. Another question for u (Question 3)

How is it that apple has been able to stay afloat in the smartphone phone market?? by been ahead?? really??

Look bro, This is a business and there are two key things in this business

1. Improve on your competitors by bringing out a new feature and improving on your competitors features

2. Good Marketing


Peace!!!!

aahh, clearly you did not get the memo from cupertino

see, this is exactly the same point Steve Jobs was making at the launch of iPad 2.
you see the competition? they are a step or two behind Apple iPad.

Apple has its strategy and business model cooked, and smoking. NB: I DO NOT LIKE APPLE, I DO NOT LIKE THEIR BUSINESS MODEL OR CLOSED SYSTEM SHYTE, but even my bias can see the reality.

they are many, Notion ink, Samsung Tab, Motorola etc etc etc, they tout the same features that we all gripe that the iPad does not have, they attempt to bridge the gap, they have recently just acquired a very big piece of the puzzle, a tablet OS (Honeycomb) , yet they lag behind! whilst trying to get honeycomb up to speed, Apple is busy trying to widen the gap further. they are in perpetual catchup mode!

how i detest the fact that apple simply annoys and impresses in equal measure, the iPad 2 is how much of an improvement on original iPad? yet, watch this space for the market figures, they dont lie.

see iv been on the weak end and defending that end like forever, been a linux enthusiast, truth is i know when u behind, u behind. abi ubuntu na windows mate for market?



good luck to MS and WP7. all these features, hotspot etc etc, ad-Hoc connections whatever, they are stuff the opposition ALREADY HAS, they had a head start, BY THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN WP7 GET ALL THESE AND MORE, THEY WILL HAVE MOVED UP TO BIGGER AND BETTER FEATURES!!!!
am pretty sure by end of the year we will have functional multiprocessor phones, wp7 don reach dual processor support yet? Nokia get dual processor phone now as we speak?

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A THIS OS VERSUS THAT OS DISCUSSION, just in case you think i lean towards one particular os, i particularly love china phone os's

please when you respond, do not insult my person, my views may be attacked, else the discussion end there. we are too old for the testosterone bullshit

erm well i beg to differ on all d postulations. firstly someone shld hunt down the stats for the first leg especially the first half, am pretty sure there wont be any difference in the way and manner they dominated. but i got an equalizer and we know how that went. immediately arsenal got an equaliser yesterday, you could instantly see the game was different. matter of fact, even the shot that earned vp a red was a sign, didnt have such in the first half no?

and the quality of the midfield that played first leg, tho that would be giving easy excuses, but still valid points. say what u will but that was a match on a knife edge, the ref tipped it to one side

hmmn. looking forward, the bad fallout from yesterday was chesney. to think that almunia will get one more chance to ruin our hard work is something i cannot accept. someone should shoot that guy in the leg or something. id prefer my chances with pat rice in goal.

when it rains, it pours

nna na dat one u dey talk?
one thing is certain, diaby must leave this club. he simply is a bad fit.

almunia is faster than he is, can think about 10 times faster than diaby. all the talk of a shambolic game, there was only 1 midfielder on arsenal's side, wilshere. the other three were passengers simple.

if there is any team that needs a overhaul in the summer, its got to be arsenal. denilson, diaby, rosicky have simply got to go!!

wow, uefa i hail. my boys are HEROES. SALUT

too bad, since it meant so much to them that they had to do this fail.

no lele. we dey .

i dnt complain abt refereeing as a rule but if this isnt bad officiating, then what is?

u need to see the barca fans celebrating like they escaped from the zoo. i was more than a match for them and they knew it.

nyways, no hassle, we shall see

haa mogbe, see ref?

hmmn, footy fans! watch this space and hear all the adulation for fab after 2nd half.

no shakement, oju wa ni osee.

hmmn. well remove diaby and rosicky and this will become very very interesting.

we simply need to step up the attack. nasri to go f adriano, arshavin on alves, priority is to keep the ball up the pitch,

sad to think that denilson 'the shyte' is clearly better than diaby on this showing!!

diaby is a liability

gawd not almunia, why o why?

oh no. not almunia.

i am actually finding it difficult reading some of the posts here, are u guys gunners in disguise? complain complain and more complain.

pls wat will u pple do if u were fifth? and as for criticising fergie, that i will never understand. he played pool with the best legs he had fit! wat magic did u expect him to do? turn carrick into zizou?

abeg, make we hear word. make una try do extended bonanza like chelski oooooooo.

see me see wahala o. just cos of the one liner i dropped? i didnt abuse u pple na, i said u playin both manchester clubs, with a lot riding on both games, pride, title for one, champs lge, 3rd place for the other. . . . . . . .

i think lala likes me o but im straight lol

read ur post the bot swallowed. amused.

one thing, stephen elop is not the dalai lama. i fail to see why i would take him at face value, simply cos he say this or that. that is a man who would do or say anything to save his "burning platform" as he put it himself.
and please, how is adding the ovi store and maps indepth tinkering? does that also mean that other competing oems will then have to carry nokia mods? seeing that they cannot even add UI customisations? and nokia is now the big uncle of the platform?
also not ignoring the fact that the marketplace is ms and ovi store will technically be a competitor AND a way to get apps into the device which is officially prohibited?

dude, believe what you will, im not choppng the tori


and as for meeting up with android etc, oga everybody has been playing catchup to a fast developing platform, by the time wp7 is at first official iteration, do u have any idea how far ahead iOS and android will be? look at the differences in every build and marvel.

as per the security issues, yup big big fail, but like u know its an issue with an os version two releases old, using exploits that had been long fixed . it exposed the very issue google is gonna have to deal with, fragmentation by oems. yet if u think the wp7 issue is a non starter, why would u think this is any worse?


as for aesthetics, tex im SHOCKED! coming from ios user? u think a couple of plain blue tiles is much to look at? do u have any idea how crippled that os is? who polished it? with what? haba tex, unless u work at ms and have seen what this magical end of the year state will be, put a sock in it. even symbian v3 looks better.

besides all we have is promises of what will/may come. for other platforms, the future is now! at least get this much vaunted copy n paste out first,

to think about it further, the nokia fones u mentioned were their flagship devices when launched, they had dud OOS issues, nokia took a beating in reputation and market movement. thats hardly a good template for a fresh assault on the market?

say what u will, the gamble is big.

today bloomberg reports that nokia is getting a great deal of cash from microsoft for the deal. now the move makes more sense, on the surface

on fone so will reply l8r, but as for choice of os, all the talk of android differentiation is pure bull. nokia does not have exclusive right on wp7. other oem's will/are making wp7 fones. the relative immaturity of the os/ecosystem is the reason why its not crowded. if wp7 ever gets adopted by users like android, the same scenario will occur.

and as for nokia tinkering with the os, i will believe that when i see it. Extensive ui customisations apart, i fail to see how they will do that, will their own wp7 now be totally different from other oems wp7? all the talk od fragmentation and across board compatibility? talk is cheap

which even brings up webos. that has far more potential, with the way its being pushed now.

up blues! up ogogoro. ok so now u wan win lge? delusional. besides u still hav both manchester clubs to play.

abeg wetin dk wab take torres goal do?

:Pjust look at the list, i mean why would anyone want to get apps with names like

Super Sex Positions
Hot Sexy Videos
Hilton Sex Sound
Screaming Sexy Japanese Girls


lols, real longerthroating

well as for the hardware thingy, well ubuntu is actually better than most distros. the ones with excellent hardware support are distros like archlinux and they are not ootb. they require a skill level of true geekery. u even have to build ur desktop.

its not really on the most, linux distros fault. most of the hardware coys have agreements with ms, wont work on linux drivers and also wont release detailed info to linuxers to use to build better drivers. hell even graphics drivers sef. the ones available are years old now.


i feel ur pain sha. why not think about learning how to reverse windows drivers to work on ur box, ndiswrapper etc? u probably will do much better with that. like ur canon printer for example, i dont think canon even officially recognises linux sef.


for the unity debate, why is nobody pointing out that 11.04 is going to ship with both the default gnome desktop and unity, and u can switch on the log in page? and please unity is a very lame excuse to switch distros, u can run ANY DESKTOP whatsoever in ubuntu, its just three clicks away!! all this mint talk sef, they should move away from ubuntu as a base totally and go debian rolling or do their own distro from scratch. mumu. they are also shipping gnome 3 without the shell so how is that such a big deal?

besides, ubuntu is a six month incremental release geared towards the LTS, unity is a few months in development, gnome 3 is three years and counting, its still crap. its like whining about the button placements or gnome 3 removing minimise and maximise buttons alltogether, when i can restore it in 30 secs or even put it anywhere i like.

abeg jo.

ok so giggsy and scholes are now well past 30 geriatrics? o maa se o. ingrates. upon say na giggs still help una comot shame small

cannot believe am seeing a scummie asking fergie to retire!!!

and u pple need to stop whining, its embarassing, midweek it was referee, weekend its the milkman, soon it will be fergie wife.

and pls why was nani weeping like a fool? he got his shin peeled, big deal. thats what proper shin guards are, not fancy pads that roll down to ur ankles. he isnt injured, not unless u think bruising should stop u from playing. scumtwats

tehehehe. that rafael two footer was a red. ref don start

thats not the point. im not a apple fan boy. and as for engadget being fanboys, thats just silly. are u aware that they get paid for publicity? and that they have to drive traffic to their site so they do populist stuff?

did u see the one week wp7 extravaganza they did at launch of wp? for real, drop that line.


as to the point of my article, that it happened at all is the issue. i know it was a limited incident, thats precisely why i posted the engadget link, the comments under the article are ever so insightful.

now view it in this way, ms is not a forerunner in mobile os world. this is like a give it shot in the arm thing. they chose the closed eco method, such that oems cannot even do their normal ui customizations. they supposedly vet the hardware too. they then have issues with samsung early, when we are all waiting and watching. i dunno abt u, but i would think long and hard before buying a wp7 even without any bad press.


all good, samsung can afford such rubbish, sammy and motorola are legendary for cock ups in fones they make, still not hurting sales. if ms has vetted the phones, to avoid this cock ups, yet it occurs. what then will be if per chance nokia releases fones that then turn round to get bricked at first update?

its like rim releasing a bb that wont play nice with bbm, bis, bes.

say what u will, for me nokia backed the wrong horse, ms is not going to be at the levels of apple and android anytime soon. they should have stuck with maemo and opened it u; further and made it even more attractive to devs to undercut others. ms is perfectly capable of messing up all at one blow.

its just one thing u gotta respect apple for, they dont do fails

move on. and for the record, this one was not wenger's fault

mumu + mumumity =mumunich!. i don tire to dey do parry 4 here abeg. munshit, we go open condolence 4 una sef. ki lo de, wetin? una nor dey tire 4 bonanza?

and before texazzpete gets on my case, i have nuthin but love for winphone7

heard its great, if ur a fan of closed ecosystems.

am just thinking, if Nokia should by any means get any OS issues on any of their new phones running wp7, mahn that be really bad for business, besides, unlike samsung Htc, etc, they have chosen only one route, other OEMS have alternatives. for nokia its win or bust

which leads to my question when we were discussing the nokiasoft alliance befor, is MS going to allow nokia full acess to handle the OS as like? cos the only way to guarantee that quality is by nannying MS. they simply cannot afford OS debacles.

and from what im seeing, the first updates to wp7 are gonna be a big issue with OEM quirks.

they want to be like apple, control the ecosystem and os fully, but apple makes its own hardware, not just anybody from china or taiwan.

if you have been following tech news in the past two weeks you would have heard about the windows phone7 issues

what basically happened is that MS decided to release an update that prepares the phones for the first update dont ask me, ask M$ it also makes no sense to me.

the first time they tried it, a number of phones were bricked, some merely required reset, or factory wipes

second time, its simply not updating on some phones. thus far there have been attempts to tactically shift the blame to OEMs, particularly samsung, as most of the affected phones are samsung wp7 phone.

But Samsung isn't shipping this update. Microsoft is. If Microsoft is shipping an update that doesn't work, that's Microsoft's responsibility--even if the underlying issue is Samsung's. Before shipping an update for Samsung phones, Microsoft should make sure the update works on Samsung phones.And even if the underlying issue is Samsung's, compatibility with the update mechanism is something that should have been tested before a single device shipped, and it should be a license condition.

A tighter, fully MS controlled ecosystem is one of the promises that brought people to WP7. We were supposed to get the hardware variety of Android, but with Microsoft forcing such strict guidelines on the underlying components and fully controlling the hardware, we were supposed to get the update experience of iOS. If you’re going to blame the OEM’s, then WP7 really has nothing on Andorid.

it is M$ that controls the OS and updates mechanism. not OEMs, one goof was bad enough, but two!!! in a row, and were not even talking full blown update o, just an update to the updater to enable future updates.

A tighter, fully MS controlled ecosystem is one of the promises that brought people to WP7. We were supposed to get the hardware variety of Android, but with Microsoft forcing such strict guidelines on the underlying components and fully controlling the hardware, we were supposed to get the update experience of iOS. If you’re going to blame the OEM’s, then WP7 really has nothing on Andorid.


whither thou goest? opinions pls

further reading
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/updated-windows-phone-7-update-isnt-updating-some-samsung-phone/



Nokia, i think you backed the wrong horse ooooooooooooo

You do not have to furnish him with an excuse for evicting him. and you are lucky he is a monthly tenant.
its this simpe fact all the greedy landlords in lagos do not get. a yearly tenant takes an average of 1 year to evict, a monthly one max 4 months


GET A SOUND LAWYER. eviction is not hard, but technical. you don't need a SAN but at the same time don't go for a cheap haggard looking doofus.

if u are concerned about his fee then get a young bright lawyer, he may be willing to take a decent sum. but remember, if u want your job done properly, do not pay a sum that will only get the lawyer to court twice then three months later u start complaining.

you SHOULD give him the statutory one month's notice forget the shortcuts. it will end badly. the law and the court is very very sympathetic to the tenant!

After that give him 7 days notice of intention to recover possession.

Then promptly file a brief to recover possession in court. if u prefer speed, forgo the arrears, and instruct the lawyer to ensure maximum possible speed. there are ways to speed up these things.


When you get judgment, get bailiffs to execute it instantly. in say 3 months you should be able to get your accommodation back

@ poster, i really need to speak up here.

1. its not true that the 15 mb works with only phone browser. i use it on my samsung fone and it powers all my apps, bolt, snaptu, ebuddy etc.

2. its also not true that its exceptionally slow. it works normally like when you subscribe to a bundle. i know cos i use both. maybe when network issues happen it slows down, or the area where u reside has bad network.


cannot believe you opened a thread to de-market a business with outright lies

the downside to it is u can only get another 15 mb the following week!!! no matter how much u load