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Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by cerpvad(m): 12:11pm On Apr 16, 2020
The post below was posted in the telegram group yesterday and it received little or no comment and reviews there. Guys what do you think about this analysis?

HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THIS:

For those staff who said minimum wage has since been implemented, I am not by any means arguing or saying that it's false; I'm just asking, "How do we explain this?"

From circulated memos on different platforms and fora (which was also posted here), I took time to do a little but indepth arithmetic and got so confused based on the theory that MW has been implemented.

From the memo (you can confirm for yourselves) -

For Grade Level 8/3 as used in the speculation.

February Salary: Paid N112,020.16

Alleged Deductions: - N9,726.92
Pension - N5,506.38
Union. - N1,182.16
Tax. - N3,038.38
——————
Total. - N9,726.92

Add paid amount to alleged deductions
N112,020.16 + N9,726.92 = N121,747.08 (gross)

But from the new minimum wage salary scale 8/3 is supposed to earn N130,061.25 as gross pay

So why do we have N121,747.08 as against N130,061.25?

March Salary: Paid N106,297.47

Alleged Deductions: - N24,544.11
Pension - N9,754.49
Union. - N2,601.29
Tax. - N8,936.80
NHF. - N3,251.53
——————
Total. - N24,544.11

Add paid amount to alleged deductions
N106,297.47 + N24,544.11 = N130,841.58 (gross)

Still different from the proposed new scale of N130,061.25.

Before I ask the questions, let's also note that the alleged 7.5%, 2% and 2.5% of Pension, Union dues and NHF respectively don't tally with their corresponding alleged values (as claimed to be deducted)

So I'll ask:

1. Why is February Gross different from the new MW salary scale Gross with a difference of N8,314.17
(N130,061.25 - N121,747.08)

2. Why the sudden leap in Pension charge?
from N5,506.38 to N9,754.49

Meanwhile from payslip (as at the sample Grade level) Pension charge rate is always within N5,506.38 range.

3. How does Union dues increase from N1,182.16 to N2,601.29?

3b. Did SSANU authorise such increment or IPPIS used their discretion to act on such over 100% increment? When we know that Union dues dances around N1,215.26

4. Tax deduction took an almost 200% increment from N3,038.38 in February to N8,936.80 in March; isn't that amazing?

5. As for the NHF scheme which I know should be voluntarily and not compulsory, let's assume the house plus land cost N3million.
N3,000,000 ÷ N3,251.53 = 922 months
922 months = 76 years

It'll then take us about 76 years to complete payment of the housing scheme. Wow!

Meanwhile, a fact to Note is:
N6,000 wasn't deducted in the March salary; it's N5,722.69 that was deducted.
N112,020.16 - N106,299.47 = N5,722.69 and not N6,000 as thought by members.

My Conspiracy Theory:

I might be wrong, it's just an assumption.

1. I think we're still on the old salary scale, that's the reason we were paid the gross of our grade level as at when we enrolled in IPPIS.

2. I think (based on a previous memo released, that there'd be no deductions in February salary) we were paid without any deduction in the February salary.

My worry now is with the N5722.69 difference in March payment; I can't wrap my head around that particular one.

I'll end by asking, "Would IPPIS pay minimum wage for two months without paying the arrears?

I learnt that some ministries received their minimum wage arrears credit alert even before receiving the minimum wage salary alert (some minutes/hours interval), so why's our own different, if truly MW has been implemented?

I beg for answers, because I'm confused.

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Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Fkj202004: 12:27pm On Apr 16, 2020
cerpvad:
The post below was posted in the telegram group yesterday and it received little or no comment and reviews there. Guys what do you think about this analysis?

HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THIS:

For those staff who said minimum wage has since been implemented, I am not by any means arguing or saying that it's false; I'm just asking, "How do we explain this?"

From circulated memos on different platforms and fora (which was also posted here), I took time to do a little but indepth arithmetic and got so confused based on the theory that MW has been implemented.

From the memo (you can confirm for yourselves) -

For Grade Level 8/3 as used in the speculation.

February Salary: Paid N112,020.16

Alleged Deductions: - N9,726.92
Pension - N5,506.38
Union. - N1,182.16
Tax. - N3,038.38
——————
Total. - N9,726.92

Add paid amount to alleged deductions
N112,020.16 + N9,726.92 = N121,747.08 (gross)

But from the new minimum wage salary scale 8/3 is supposed to earn N130,061.25 as gross pay

So why do we have N121,747.08 as against N130,061.25?

March Salary: Paid N106,297.47

Alleged Deductions: - N24,544.11
Pension - N9,754.49
Union. - N2,601.29
Tax. - N8,936.80
NHF. - N3,251.53
——————
Total. - N24,544.11

Add paid amount to alleged deductions
N106,297.47 + N24,544.11 = N130,841.58 (gross)

Still different from the proposed new scale of N130,061.25.

Before I ask the questions, let's also note that the alleged 7.5%, 2% and 2.5% of Pension, Union dues and NHF respectively don't tally with their corresponding alleged values (as claimed to be deducted)

So I'll ask:

1. Why is February Gross different from the new MW salary scale Gross with a difference of N8,314.17
(N130,061.25 - N121,747.08)

2. Why the sudden leap in Pension charge?
from N5,506.38 to N9,754.49

Meanwhile from payslip (as at the sample Grade level) Pension charge rate is always within N5,506.38 range.

3. How does Union dues increase from N1,182.16 to N2,601.29?

3b. Did SSANU authorise such increment or IPPIS used their discretion to act on such over 100% increment? When we know that Union dues dances around N1,215.26

4. Tax deduction took an almost 200% increment from N3,038.38 in February to N8,936.80 in March; isn't that amazing?

5. As for the NHF scheme which I know should be voluntarily and not compulsory, let's assume the house plus land cost N3million.
N3,000,000 ÷ N3,251.53 = 922 months
922 months = 76 years

It'll then take us about 76 years to complete payment of the housing scheme. Wow!

Meanwhile, a fact to Note is:
N6,000 wasn't deducted in the March salary; it's N5,722.69 that was deducted.
N112,020.16 - N106,299.47 = N5,722.69 and not N6,000 as thought by members.

My Conspiracy Theory:

I might be wrong, it's just an assumption.

1. I think we're still on the old salary scale, that's the reason we were paid the gross of our grade level as at when we enrolled in IPPIS.

2. I think (based on a previous memo released, that there'd be no deductions in February salary) we were paid without any deduction in the February salary.

My worry now is with the N5722.69 difference in March payment; I can't wrap my head around that particular one.

I'll end by asking, "Would IPPIS pay minimum wage for two months without paying the arrears?

I learnt that some ministries received their minimum wage arrears credit alert even before receiving the minimum wage salary alert (some minutes/hours interval), so why's our own different, if truly MW has been implemented?

I beg for answers, because I'm confused.

Copied from INI IMAH

How do they give response when no-one knows what is going on. Still, no payslip yet. We are all as blank as the Asker
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by cerpvad(m): 12:36pm On Apr 16, 2020
Then we should all stop running with the claims that new minimum wage has been implemented for federal tertiary institutions
Fkj202004:


How do they give response when no-one knows what is going on. Still, no payslip yet. We are all as blank as the Asker
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by ashafson: 4:30pm On Apr 16, 2020
cerpvad:
Then we should all stop running with the claims that new minimum wage has been implemented for federal tertiary institutions
Min wage have been implemented at least for my sch
Check out my feb pay slip
Pls go get your feb pay slip and compare with that of jan.
The problem is that the deductions were too much that you dont see the effect of the new min wage for example about 51k+ was added to my pay but the total deduction amounted to 49k+

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Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Rahym001(m): 6:35pm On Apr 16, 2020
ashafson:

Min wage have been implemented at least for my sch
Check out my feb pay slip
Pls go get your feb pay slip and compare with that of jan.
The problem is that the deductions were too much that you dont see the effect of the new min wage for example about 51k+ was added to my pay but the total deduction amounted to 49k+

please how were u able to get ur payslip.

did u print online or

you were given by school bursary.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by kerryharmony: 6:40pm On Apr 16, 2020
Nobody is talking about arrears. This is Thursday evening.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Nobody: 7:00pm On Apr 16, 2020
kerryharmony:
Nobody is talking about arrears. This is Thursday evening.
the payment of nmw arrears is likely to be next week
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Nobody: 7:11pm On Apr 16, 2020
ashafson:

Min wage have been implemented at least for my sch
Check out my feb pay slip
Pls go get your feb pay slip and compare with that of jan.
The problem is that the deductions were too much that you dont see the effect of the new min wage for example about 51k+ was added to my pay but the total deduction amounted to 49k+
that 51k plus was added and 49kplus was total deductions might be misleading as someone might think you are left with 1k. The total deductions is not on the 51k added but on consolidated with includes old consolidated +nmw.. The total deductions on the 51k plus is 11,220(51kplus*22%). The 22% is 2.5%+7.5%+2%+10%.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by jeraw: 7:53pm On Apr 16, 2020
roman1755:
that 51k plus was added and 49kplus was total deductions might be misleading as someone might think you are left with 1k. The total deductions is not on the 51k added but on consolidated with includes old consolidated +nmw.. The total deductions on the 51k plus is 11,220(51kplus*22%). The 22% is 2.5%+7.5%+2%+10%.
great dy/dx.. I hail grin
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Nobody: 8:08pm On Apr 16, 2020
jeraw:
great dy/dx.. I hail grin
I am not a mathematician but an auditor. We vet prepared staff salaries before payment. I am conversant with how these things work. If not of space, I would have tabled the whole thing and even what he I'll get as consequential increment arrears.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by ashafson: 8:20pm On Apr 16, 2020
Rahym001:


please how were u able to get ur payslip.

did u print online or

you were given by school bursary.
Sent thru our bursar
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by ashafson: 8:24pm On Apr 16, 2020
roman1755:
that 51k plus was added and 49kplus was total deductions might be misleading as someone might think you are left with 1k. The total deductions is not on the 51k added but on consolidated with includes old consolidated +nmw.. The total deductions on the 51k plus is 11,220(51kplus*22%). The 22% is 2.5%+7.5%+2%+10%.
You may view it the way you like but all i am interested in is the amount that i will get finally and thats around 2k to 3k. As far as i am concerned thats the addition i got as new min wage.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by ashafson: 8:27pm On Apr 16, 2020
kerryharmony:
Nobody is talking about arrears. This is Thursday evening.
Hmmmm. I wonder oooooo.
Where is the guy that gave us the info from ippis? Is there no update?
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by cerpvad(m): 9:53pm On Apr 16, 2020
Let's see your GIFMIS January payslip so that we can accurately judge the difference between it and that of the IPPIS
ashafson:

Min wage have been implemented at least for my sch
Check out my feb pay slip
Pls go get your feb pay slip and compare with that of jan.
The problem is that the deductions were too much that you dont see the effect of the new min wage for example about 51k+ was added to my pay but the total deduction amounted to 49k+
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by slenjaman(m): 10:11pm On Apr 16, 2020
I have told you guys to stop believing all those stories. Next week no dey ever come
ashafson:

Hmmmm. I wonder oooooo.
Where is the guy that gave us the info from ippis? Is there no update?
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Nobody: 10:12pm On Apr 16, 2020
ashafson:

You may view it the way you like but all i am interested in is the amount that i will get finally and thats around 2k to 3k. As far as i am concerned thats the addition i got as new min wage.
(gross pay on nmw - statutory deductions) - (gross pay on old salary- statutory deductions) will give you what you really gained on NMW. 20,712 was added to my consolidated as nmw whereas total deductions was 28kplus, should I say that I lost almost 8k as nmw? No. My old total deductions used to be around 17k and the nmw deductions is 28kplus, a difference of around 11k. The 11k is the actual deductions on the 20,712 that was added to my salary and not the 28kplus. It is as simple as that. This means I gained 9kplus on the NMW.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by jeraw: 10:55pm On Apr 16, 2020
roman1755:
I am not a mathematician but an auditor. We vet prepared staff salaries before payment. I am conversant with how these things work. If not of space, I would have tabled the whole thing and even *what he I'll get as consequential increment arrears*.

I am interested in the bolded as it relates to contiss 8/3. Please help to extrapolate. Thanks sir
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Makemercy: 11:00pm On Apr 16, 2020
What a country? Why should we be begging for payslips when IPPIS collected our emails: what stop them from mailing the payslips at same time they are posting the salaries.?The second anomaly I observed, why can't they provide us with phone number & email of IPPIS director? What's the big deal in that? I should be able to call/email him/her to ask for when they are paying my arrears if I were living in a sane society.

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Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Crusader1: 11:19am On Apr 17, 2020
jeraw:


I am interested in the bolded as it relates to contiss 8/3. Please help to extrapolate. Thanks sir


All you need do is take your payslip, subtract what was paid to you in March from January, the difference is your NMW, then multiply it by 9, that should be the minimum amount you will receive as MW arrears.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by jeraw: 12:55pm On Apr 17, 2020
Crusader1:



All you need do is take your payslip, subtract what was paid to you in March from January, the difference is your NMW, then multiply it by 9, that should be the minimum amount you will receive as MW arrears.
No pay slip yet for March...
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Crusader1: 2:07pm On Apr 17, 2020
jeraw:
No pay slip yet for March...


Your bank alert will do same.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by kerryharmony: 4:08pm On Apr 17, 2020
I don't think the arrears will come anytime soon. With the way things are going and the current economic reality. We should just take our minds off it. Las Las FG na scam.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Apr 17, 2020
kerryharmony:
I don't think the arrears will come anytime soon. With the way things are going and the current economic reality. We should just take our minds off it. Las Las FG na scam.
I don't think so too
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by hefortcom(m): 6:52pm On Apr 17, 2020
Are the Governor ready to pay civil servant minimum wages when they are about to know what is minimum wages. in this country we all should be living about $1 now but the other way round is the case. up till now we are yet to see vision 2020 take place. God help our leaders an lead them well to always think about the masses.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by jeraw: 11:55am On Apr 18, 2020
Crusader1:



Your bank alert will do same.
not really because an extra 28k was deducted in March out of the 112k paid in February and I don't know the reason up till this moment embarassed. Maybe I will after lockdown
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by adewale4jesus: 7:30am On Apr 20, 2020
Any info about minimum wage arreas
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Nobody: 10:39am On Apr 20, 2020
adewale4jesus:
Any info about minimum wage arreas
The thread has suddenly gone COLD. Most people here have migrated to Federal tertiary institutions staff on Telegram, hence no more comments.
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Humblezick(m): 11:09am On Apr 20, 2020
roman1755:
The thread has suddenly gone COLD. Most people here have migrated to Federal tertiary institutions staff on Telegram, hence no more comments.

Yes, you are right. I am also on the platform, one of the Admins even. But I can tell you that regarding minimum wage arrears, not serious update yet. We are working round the clock to get reasonable and authentic information about that, but nothing yet.
But let's not loose our hope yet!
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Gomeke: 11:18am On Apr 20, 2020
Humblezick:


Yes, you are right. I am also on the platform, one of the Admins even. But I can tell you that regarding minimum wage arrears, not serious update yet. We are working round the clock to get reasonable and authentic information about that, but nothing yet.
But let's not loose our hope yet!

Please, add me to the Telegram platform. Thanks
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by ashafson: 11:43am On Apr 20, 2020
Humblezick:


Yes, you are right. I am also on the platform, one of the Admins even. But I can tell you that regarding minimum wage arrears, not serious update yet. We are working round the clock to get reasonable and authentic information about that, but nothing yet.
But let's not loose our hope yet!
Pls add 08095950591
Tnx
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by tanko195: 12:12pm On Apr 20, 2020
pls add me to the telegram 08130803160
Re: Has Any Federal Civil Servant Received The New Minimum Wage? by Makemercy: 12:13pm On Apr 20, 2020
Pls add to the telegram 08034460713
Thanks

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