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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 11:25am On Feb 17
EMILO2STAY:
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the evidence exist except you have chosen to disbelieve in it. But I also will ask you again what are the evidence of a big bang 14billion yrs ago?.

Evidence of the big bang:

1. Hubble's law and the expansion of space
2. Cosmic microwave background radiation
3. Abundance of primordial elements
4. Galactic evolution and distribution
5. Primordial gas clouds

Other evidence:

Future gravitational-wave observatories might be able to detect primordial gravitational waves, relics of the early universe, up to less than a second after the Big Bang.

These are all observed and measured phenomena.

Now where is your evidence?

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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 12:09pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


Evidence of the big bang:

1. Hubble's law and the expansion of space
2. Cosmic microwave background radiation
3. Abundance of primordial elements
4. Galactic evolution and distribution
5. Primordial gas clouds

Other evidence:

Future gravitational-wave observatories might be able to detect primordial gravitational waves, relics of the early universe, up to less than a second after the Big Bang.

These are all observed and measured phenomena.

Now where is your evidence?

(1)God created just one couple and later when their descendants we're unitedly going against his will (they wanted to remain in one place instead of spreading throughout the earth as he purposed) the Bible said God sent down angels to multiply the language they're speaking so that they became confused and scatter all over the earth!

Can the big bang provide a better explanation on why we are speaking different language today? cheesy

(2)God created human and said the purpose is for them to WORSHIP him!

Throughout the earth today, there is no tribe that doesn't engage in worship.
Can the big bang theory answer to that?

(3) God said he created humans in his image meaning of all the creatures on planet earth, humans are the one and only creature having plans, putting on clothes just as God's word said and manufacturing useful things just as God's word said. No other creature does that.

Can the big bang theory answer to that?

(4) God's word said he (God) created the heavens (galaxies) and the earth (our planet), and it's only on planet earth that God made living creatures. No other planet has what it takes to house living creatures except the earth.

Can the big bang theory answer to that? cheesy

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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 12:39pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


(1)God created just one couple and later when their descendants we're unitedly going against his will (they wanted to remain in one place instead of spreading throughout the earth as he purposed) the Bible said God sent down angels to multiply the language they're speaking so that they became confused and scatter all over the earth!

Can the big bang provide a better explanation on why we are speaking different language today? cheesy

(2)God created human and said the purpose is for them to WORSHIP him!

Throughout the earth today, there is no tribe that doesn't engage in worship.
Can the big bang theory answer to that?

(3) God said he created humans in his image meaning of all the creatures on planet earth, humans are the one and only creature having plans, putting on clothes just as God's word said and manufacturing useful things just as God's word said. No other creature does that.

Can the big bang theory answer to that?

(4) God's word said he (God) created the heavens (galaxies) and the earth (our planet), and it's only on planet earth that God made living creatures. No other planet has what it takes to house living creatures except the earth.

Can the big bang theory answer to that? cheesy


I asked for evidence not stories. Well I don't expect a fake arse liar like you to understand what evidence means.

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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 1:08pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


I asked for evidence not stories. Well I don't expect a fake arse liar like you to understand what evidence means.

Well your big bang theory is just another fairytale, because it's not happening in our presence neither you nor i have seen any big bang! cheesy

So it's from the stories that we can deduce facts Sir!

Whatever you presented up there is as good as a fabricated story since your big bang theory explained it off, just as my Bible did the same thing. Neither you nor i have seen Mr big bang or Mr God! cheesy
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 1:18pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


Well your big bang theory is just another fairytale, because it's not happening in our presence neither you nor i have seen any big bang! cheesy

So it's from the stories that we can deduce facts Sir!

Whatever you presented up there is as good as a fabricated story since your big bang theory explained it off, just as my Bible did the same thing. Neither you nor i have seen Mr big bang or Mr God! cheesy

I said you don't know the meaning of evidence and here you are proving it.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 1:43pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


I said you don't know the meaning of evidence and here you are proving it.

It's obvious you have lots and lots of evidence to prove your big bang, it's just that nobody have seen it! wink
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 1:53pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


It's obvious you have lots and lots of evidence to prove your big bang, it's just that nobody have seen it! wink

Bwahahahahaha! The 5 evidences I listed are well documented and recorded so it is very clear you don't know the meaning of evidence. LMAO!
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:29pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


Evidence of the big bang:

1. Hubble's law and the expansion of space
2. Cosmic microwave background radiation
3. Abundance of primordial elements
4. Galactic evolution and distribution
5. Primordial gas clouds

Other evidence:

Future gravitational-wave observatories might be able to detect primordial gravitational waves, relics of the early universe, up to less than a second after the Big Bang.

These are all observed and measured phenomena.

Now where is your evidence?
is this the eye witness account 14billion years ago?
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:47pm On Feb 17
FOLYKAZE:


The discourse isn't about Paul conversion. I am saying that his conversion doesn't prove the existence of Jesus. He may believe anything, the existence of Jesus is the bone of contention here. Paul saw born after Jesus had died. He didn't see the incident play out before him. What he know about the person of Jesus is drawn from the scripture. That is what he said in 1 corinthian 15:3. 1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Paul said Jesus died for his sins according to the scripture, not according to what he heard directly from Jesus.



Whatever he saw is inconsequential. Using the terminology of MuttleyLaff, Paul on his way to Damascus saw the glory of Jesus in form of light, not the Jesus that was carnally given birth by Mary. The later Jesus had died and didn't meet Paul.



I demand evidences proving Jesus existence, and all you could give is Big bang? Hallelujah!




Yes. Afterall they had input about Dositheos , a messiah-like figure among the Samaritans who was known to have been active during the reign of Pontius Pilate.

There is enormous record Pilate was retired when he killed armed militants, followers of Dositheos. There is no record of Pilate encounter with Jesus anywhere. It goes to show Jesus was fictional figure that was infused into the lifeline of Pilate.



I meant to say Peter was an illiterate. And that what Paul knew about Jesus is what he heard or read.



Can you share the archaeological findings that prove Jesus existed?
at this stage it is clear to me you are not ready to accept the undeniable evidences confirming the bible and christ.
If archeology, history and prophecies which prove the Bible and christ is not enough for you, then you are free to disbelieve in Christ and the bible. But as for me I am 100% convinced of their authenticity and I have no reason whatsoever to doubt the bible or the existence of christ.
Mean while those who doubt the bible seems to be proponents of the big bang theory which has no eye witness neither does it have any single substantial proof to back it up yet people like you subscribe to this but question the bible which has both eyewitness and many substantial proof to it than the big bang or evolution. So at this point I would say go on with your unbelief in Christ or the bible.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 2:49pm On Feb 17
EMILO2STAY:
is this the eye witness account 14billion years ago?

YES they are all LIFE evidence of our big bang God nah! angry
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 2:55pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! The 5 evidences I listed are well documented and recorded so it is very clear you don't know the meaning of evidence. LMAO!

Congratulations Sir!

5 indisputable evidences listed and SEEN so our big bang God won the argument!

Please Sir i want you to enlighten all these worshipers of the Bible God what our BIG BANG GOD is doing presently to end lessen the troubles in our society so that we can have relative PEACE.

May the mighty BIG BANG bless you Sir! smiley
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 3:17pm On Feb 17
EMILO2STAY:
is this the eye witness account 14billion years ago?

Did I call it eye witness account or evidence?
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 3:19pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


Congratulations Sir!

5 indisputable evidences listed and SEEN so our big bang God won the argument!

Please Sir i want you to enlighten all these worshipers of the Bible God what our BIG BANG GOD is doing presently to end lessen the troubles in our society so that we can have relative PEACE.

May the mighty BIG BANG bless you Sir! smiley

Did I call the big bang a god?
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 3:25pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


Did I call the big bang a god?

Sorry Sir!

I think what interests humans with brains in all of these is how to tackle the problems facing mankind and perhaps our future, NOT some useless or hopeless fabricated evidences of no significance! cheesy
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 3:49pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


Sorry Sir!

I think what interests humans with brains in all of these is how to tackle the problems facing mankind and perhaps our future, NOT some useless or hopeless fabricated evidences of no significance! cheesy

Bwahahahahaha! Anyway my conversation was not with you so stay one corner. Besides the thread is not for your stories, it is for evidence, when you have some bring it.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 4:13pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! Anyway my conversation was not with you so stay one corner. Besides the thread is not for your stories, it is for evidence, when you have some bring it.

I'm glad you've blissfully resumed to your "Bwahahahahaha!" once again! smiley

Couple of hours ago you vehemently spoke in tongues using the religionist's term "REPENT" after i've ridiculed your white Gods! smiley

I once told you that "there are ATHEISTS claiming religionists" but in your own case you're a confirmed atheist bone, flesh and blood!

It's when the hopeless Gods of ATHEISTS are ridiculed that you'll hear words like "REPENT before holy ghost fire stike you"

or

"REPENT before it's too late in hellfire"

But you've already debunked these two curses, your own case is "REPENT" then the thought of how to inflict pain on your opposer with Security operatives is your own, so you don't have to wait for any God to come judge your ridiculer, since you don't trust (believe) in any! cheesy

Just remember that FRUSTRATION comes when you're battling really hard to refute what is obvious or when you're striving bitterly to establish what is not true. The end result is INTOLERANCE! wink

Well i'm just glad you're blissfully doing your "Bwahahahahaha" again now! smiley
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 4:20pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


I'm glad you've blissfully resumed to your "Bwahahahahaha!" once again! smiley

Couple of hours ago you vehemently spoke in tongues using the religionist's term "REPENT" after i've ridiculed your white Gods! smiley

I once told you that "there are ATHEISTS claiming religionists" but in your own case you're a confirmed atheist bone, flesh and blood!

It's when the hopeless Gods of ATHEISTS are ridiculed that you'll hear words like "REPENT before holy ghost fire stike you"

or

"REPENT before it's too late in hellfire"

But you've already debunked these two curses, your own case is "REPENT" then the thought of how to inflict pain on your opposer with Security operatives is your own, so you don't have to wait for any God to come judge your ridiculer, since you don't trust (believe) in any! cheesy

Just remember that FRUSTRATION comes when you're battling really hard to refute what is obvious or when you're striving bitterly to establish what is not true. The end result is INTOLERANCE! wink

Well i'm just glad you're blissfully doing your "Bwahahahahaha" again now! smiley

Oh don't worry the operatives are on your trail waiting for you to fúck up. Continue parading yourself as the fake military intelligence officer you claim to be, you will soon know. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 4:51pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


Oh don't worry the operatives are on your trail waiting for you to fúck up. Continue parading yourself as the fake military intelligence officer you claim to be, you will soon know. Bwahahahahaha!

My friend, you need to grow up!

There are thousands of cases on ground that needed the immediate attention of the security operatives, they aren't that hopeless and idle to the extent of trailing people chatting on social media! cheesy

So think of a better psychological battle plan than hoping for what will never be!

For your information, there are three types of WARS.

Physical~ this involves use of weapons and other destructive devices, humans are employed for this and casualties are always recorded!

Spiritual~ this involves voodooism and black magic, demons (evil spirits) are employed for this and casualties also suffice in this!

Psychological~ this is the type of war Jesus taught his followers so humans are also employed in this, no force or threat, no weapons, and no casualties. Because this soldiers speak to their opponents to win their hearts not destroy them or part of their body to concur!

The one and only war plan that could lead to your arrest under the law is PHYSICAL, that's why the UN is saying freedom of speech, expression and worship.
As long as you've harmed no one nobody can arrest you UNDER THE LAW!

So if you've got anything tangible to say about PEACE MAKING without the use of force, weapons and records of casualties my friend feel free to speak! smiley
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 4:57pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


My friend, you need to grow up!

There are thousands of cases on ground that needed the immediate attention of the security operatives, they aren't that hopeless and idle to the extent of trailing people chatting on social media! cheesy

So think of a better psychological battle plan than hoping for what will never be!

For your information, there are three types of WARS.

Physical~ this involves use of weapons and other destructive devices, humans are employed for this and casualties are always recorded!

Spiritual~ this involves voodooism and black magic, demons (evil spirits) are employed for this and casualties also suffice in this!

Psychological~ this is the type of war Jesus taught his followers so humans are also employed in this, no force or threat, no weapons, and no casualties. Because this soldiers speak to their opponents to win their hearts not destroy them or part of their body to concur!

The one and only war plan that could lead to your arrest under the law is PHYSICAL, that's why the UN is saying freedom of speech, expression and worship.
As long as you've harmed no one nobody can arrest you UNDER THE LAW!

So if you've got anything tangible to say about PEACE MAKING without the use of force, weapons and records of casualties my friend feel free to speak! smiley

You are the dumb one here. I explicitly said they are waiting for you to fúck up. Who said anything about arresting you for chatting online? May be you should go have your head examined because you are losing a grip on reality.

Fake arse liar.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:33pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


Sorry Sir!

I think what interests humans with brains in all of these is how to tackle the problems facing mankind and perhaps our future, NOT some useless or hopeless fabricated evidences of no significance! cheesy

I deliberately called you out cuz most of what I put out there are deducted from JW works. 'mankind search for God' and some couples of awake. With that at hand, I did more findings using wikipedia only. Nothing more.

The latest awake subjected on peace of mind is the latest JW material with me. But hey, why are most of your works focusing on historicity of Jesus, Origin of life as against evolution, focusing on gospel textual fragments. If mean nothing, the jw world won't touch it at all.

In all the materials from jw world, there is yet any vital information to buttress Jesus truly existed.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:40pm On Feb 17
EMILO2STAY:
at this stage it is clear to me you are not ready to accept the undeniable evidences confirming the bible and christ.
If archeology, history and prophecies which prove the Bible and christ is not enough for you, then you are free to disbelieve in Christ and the bible. But as for me I am 100% convinced of their authenticity and I have no reason whatsoever to doubt the bible or the existence of christ.
Mean while those who doubt the bible seems to be proponents of the big bang theory which has no eye witness neither does it have any single substantial proof to back it up yet people like you subscribe to this but question the bible which has both eyewitness and many substantial proof to it than the big bang or evolution. So at this point I would say go on with your unbelief in Christ or the bible.

You my dear have not presented any evidence to prove the existence of Jesus, or that any of the incident starting from creation account, to exodus, Solomon temple and babylonia captivity did not happen.

I have asked you to present report from a renowned archaeologist, and eye witness report but you couldn't present any.

I can conclude now, that the basis of you and finallydead faith is founded on fables and popular fictions, having no single basis in reality.

Thanks for all the time and effort.

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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by EMILO2STAY(m): 6:06pm On Feb 17
FOLYKAZE:


You my dear have not presented any evidence to prove the existence of Jesus, or that any of the incident starting from creation account, to exodus, Solomon temple and babylonia captivity did not happen.

I have asked you to present report from a renowned archaeologist, and eye witness report but you couldn't present any.

I can conclude now, that the basis of you and finallydead faith is founded on fables and popular fictions, having no single basis in reality.

Thanks for all the time and effort.
folks like you reject the bible and christ only to subscribe to the theories of big bang and evolution. I can give you archeological evidence. But can you also give me eye witness account of the big band? Or even a tangible evidence of evolution and big bang if not for theories.
If you call it fables, then what about the big bang theory said to happen 14billion years ago? I noticed you are avoiding that question.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 6:10pm On Feb 17
EMILO2STAY:
folks like you reject the bible and christ only to subscribe to the theories of big bang and evolution. I can give you archeological evidence. But can you also give me eye witness account of the big band? Or even a tangible evidence of evolution and big bang if not for theories.
If you call it fables, then what about the big bang theory said to happen 14billion years ago? I noticed you are avoiding that question.

I gave you 5 recorded and observable evidences for the big bang, where is your own list of evidence?
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 6:33pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


You are the dumb one here. I explicitly said they are waiting for you to fúck up. Who said anything about arresting you for chatting online? May be you should go have your head examined because you are losing a grip on reality.

Fake arse liar.

There you go again, agitating as if you're hurt!

My friend, this is what i call indirect injury on your intellect, but you'll soon get over it.

Pèlé! smiley
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 6:36pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


There you go again, agitating as if you're hurt!

My friend, this is what i call indirect injury on your intellect, but you'll soon get over it.

Pèlé! smiley

It's clear you need help, get some.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 7:00pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


It's clear you need help, get some.

Of course i need help and since you're the first to notice it i think you'll be in the best position to assist.

Please my problem is "how can we go about PEACE MAKING without the use of force, weapons and record no casualties?" smiley

Thanks Sir! smiley
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 7:05pm On Feb 17
FOLYKAZE:


I deliberately called you out cuz most of what I put out there are deducted from JW works. 'mankind search for God' and some couples of awake. With that at hand, I did more findings using wikipedia only. Nothing more.

The latest awake subjected on peace of mind is the latest JW material with me. But hey, why are most of your works focusing on historicity of Jesus, Origin of life as against evolution, focusing on gospel textual fragments. If mean nothing, the jw world won't touch it at all.

In all the materials from jw world, there is yet any vital information to buttress Jesus truly existed.

You need two more books to read, then i'm sure you'll be able to answer the question yourself and even help others to know more as to what we believe about Jesus of Nazareth!

(1) The greatest man who ever lived!

(2) Jesus the way the truth the life!

Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 7:17pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


Of course i need help and since you're the first to notice it i think you'll be in the best position to assist.

Please my problem is "how can we go about PEACE MAKING without the use of force, weapons and record no casualties?" smiley

Thanks Sir! smiley

This is the type you need: Gracehill Behavioral Health Services

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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69: 7:21pm On Feb 17
LordReed:


This is the type you need: Gracehill Behavioral Health Services

How many persons have been assisted by this link of yours to surrender all harmful weapons wholeheartedly, without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties? smiley
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:11pm On Feb 17
Finallydead:

I'm here not mainly for the sake of OP but for the sake of my brothers who he seeks to distort our scriptures to, in order to maintain scriptures in their place.

My words represent me. The thread is borne out of been curious, and it seem you make the answer come in with little stress. However, it is important that I address the misconstrued matters in your post.


Finallydead:

So I tell you plainly without shame, I believe in Jesus Christ my Lord, not because of any physical or logical evidence

This is apt and precise. As a matter of fact, the curious OP only want to know the basis of christian faith. And like you said, the believers are not in about evidence, not because there is a reliable and dependable evidences, but because faith requires no logical or empirical evidences. In your own thinking, believers should accept every dogma without questioning or seeking validation. I wish MuttleyLaff, Maximus69 and emilo2stay can agree with you.

Finallydead:

you think to discredit all scripture for
LACK of historical sources.

I didn't say anywhere that all scripture lack historical basis. That is your own make up.

Finallydead:
As regards the gospels, please dismiss OPs nonsense. Every gospel was as good as an eyewitness account, the first of them being Mark's, written about 20 odd years(around 54A.D.) after the Lord's resurrection. Mark was Peter's disciple and wrote based on Peter's narrative of the gospel. John's was the last of them written around 90AD, also clearly identifying himself as author(Jn21:24). Luke also was a disciple of the Lord(among the 70) and later became an accomplice of Paul and very well indicated his firsthand knowledge of the events (Lk1:3) as opposed to just hearsay from eyewitnesses by many other authors(not in the bible) who also wrote narrations(Lk1:1-2). Matthew was the disciple of the Lord, the ex-tax collector.

1. I should have thanked you for correcting my mistakes, but since you leave my input and tag me a lair, you don't deserve any thanks. But I must acknowledge and admit I made a mistake with the calculations of AD timing. I thought AD mean after death if Christ, this is what I was taught in Secondary school back then. Did I say I am always right? Nope! I want to be proven wrong.

2. The general consensus of most scholars is that the synoptic gospel were copied from Gospel of Mark. The gospel of Mark was written in 70 AD, 37yrs after Jesus died, by someone who does not have direct relationship with Jesus Christ. The Gospel of Mark was not written and does not claim to be written by direct witnesses to the reported events. Claiming he is Peter disciple makes the gospel implausible, as the account is drawn from secondary sources.

3. The book of John was not written by Apostle John. So is book of Revelation and the epistle of John. The church tradition holds that Apostle John is the author of Gospel of John, but is that the truth? I bet no. Scholars hold that the author of the book of John is the unnamed disciple jesus loved. John 21:24 didn't give identity of the said disciple.

The question that should be on your mind is who is the loved disciple? What is his identity? But I would like to indicate that the writer depicted Jesus as magician, something strange. Also, he intentionally forced himself into Jesus life and death, an account other writer didn't note. The character surprisingly appears in gospel of John. Making the whole gospel questionable. Scholar consensus is that the unknown loved disciple is a priest in sanderin. But the question is still. However, we know the author is loved disciple. He wrote a propaganda on false witness.

4. The gospel of Luke, like you said is written by Luke the evangelist. Luke 1:1-2 mentions that Luke knows of other written sources of Jesus' life, and that he has investigated in order to gather the most information. The author indicated that he from witness accounts, not claiming he is the witness.

But scholar view on the gospel is that author of Luke used the Gospel of Mark as a source for the narrative of Christ's earthly life, and likely used a hypothetical sayings collection called the Q source for Jesus' teaching. Luke corrupted the great commission of the twelve. Other gospels indicated only twelve were commissioned but Luke infused 70 disciple so that he could show up there. That is another fraud. I wish emilo2stay can see this. Many of the author had a mindset and intention which make them trim and twist the gospel anyhow they wish.

L source has been defined as oral source. Oral source and traditions are not trustworthy. You wish Luke was a witness, he didn't claim he is one.

5. Gospel of Matthew could not have been written by Apostle Matthew when he copied largely from the gospel from the gospel of Mark, the work from secondary sources.

The gospel is largely subjective works of people who ain't direct witness. It is evident that the gospels are largely copies of copies of oral traditions and full of propaganda.

Finallydead:
As for the nonsense about Pauls doubting in 1Cor15, I wouldn't even bother. Simple primary school level reading of the chapter, will make all see how desperate OP was to find something.

The doubt is in 1 Cor 15:3,14,17. Can you deal with those verses please? And by doing that, please keep your emotion asides.

Finallydead:
As for OP. Since you're at a loss to what you should really worry about and seem to be doting around aimlessly kicking against pricks. Let me remind you what and who you should really be bothered about. Regardless of what you might or might not achieve on this thread. One fact remains, you would not achieve a freedom from the law of sin and death in your life which is the reason why you will still sin against God's laws and even your own reasoning and conscience.

Keep the emotion aside, and take a deep breathe. Most importantly, save the sermon for your sheeple who accept fantasy without seeking for logical and empirical evidence. Thanks.

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Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:12pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


You need two more books to read, then i'm sure you'll be able to answer the question yourself and even help others to know more as to what we believe about Jesus of Nazareth!

(1) The greatest man who ever lived!

(2) Jesus the way the truth the life!


I have read both magazines.
Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 8:14pm On Feb 17
Maximus69:


How many persons have been assisted by this link of yours to surrender all harmful weapons wholeheartedly, without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties? smiley

Go and ask them they will help you.

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