Righton:

You are entitled to your own opinions. But Muslims will NEVER be dictated to by you or by anyone Why do you think you can sit in judgement and dictate conditions?

Please can you tell me christian jurisprudence to enable us see if it is barbaric or not.
Tell me the portions of the Bible that have been completely ignored so that we can determine what is left of christianity or get a new name for it so that at least all the pretensions to being followers of christ can be laid to rest

Why do your type always think women are forced to do what they do in Islam. Are you saying even in the US, somehow these women cannot resist this "imposition".
Do you know that some girls (even in Nigeria) cover their faces in school but don't at home because their parents do not want them to
When will you defend the rights of these women to cover their face
Is it really freedom or democratic for a woman who wants to appear unclothed in some beaches in Europe to be able to but those who want to cover their bodies are not allowed to as in France
Why do you not believe that those who appear in adult films are forced while assuming those who cover their bodies are?

How many muslim neighbours of yours have you had cause to call to order because they always resolve issues by violence?
A lot of people talk about some muslims based on poisoned opinions while totally ignoring that muslim they see at work or in the neighbourhood everyday

RichyBlacK:

Well, I don't believe every Muslim thinks that way. I have Muslim friends and I know some that have attended "Save Darfur" protests and marches. I have a close friend from Egypt, a Muslim, who sees nothing good in Mubarak's stranglehold of Egyptian politics.

However, I understand where you're coming from. Sometimes Muslims are slow to criticize their corrupt governments and even slower to openly condemn undisputed acts of barbarism by extremists within Islam. This, I think, is as a result of a two-pronged fear:

1. Fear of being harmed, especially for those residing in oppressive states
2. Fear of making fellow members of the Ummah look bad in the eyes of outsiders.

Over the last 50 years, extremism has taken a lethal blow, and it is becoming less popular. I firmly believe that the future of our planet has no place for extremists, of any religion. And slowly, but surely, those Muslims who believe that the world must bow to their own interpretation of Islam would be locked in a perpetual state of backwardness.

Any student of history, would realize that even Christianity passed through a similar phase in the so-called Dark Ages. Extremist views were the norm rather than the exception. Without much external forces, the demons of extremism imploded from within, as people just got tired of the lunacy. Today, extremists in Islam have to battle two losing fronts: the moderates in Islam and the non-Muslims. Today, we are seeing the waning of extremist views in countries like Tunisia, Morocco, Algeria, Kuwait and Jordan. This will only continue and, hopefully, bolster the size of the moderates in Islam. On the non-Muslim side, there are at least six fronts:

1. The Russian front (on alert from lessons in Afghanistan and Chechnya; watching neighboring Muslim states closely)
2. The Chinese front (the Communist Party has very low tolerance for any form of extremism; not much extremists can do here)
3. The Indian front (have been on alert for at least 60 years; acts of barbarism within India has heightened vigilance; tension between extremist Muslims and extremist Hindus have effectively checkmated any ambitions of extremists on either side)
4. The European front (rising Muslim population; gradual integration of Muslims in Europe will increase the population of moderates in Islam)
5. The American front (on alert since the mid-90s; monitoring several extremist groups across the globe; most intimidating front to all extremists in Islam; choicest target for all extremists in Islam)
6. The African front (with several flash points in Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania and Nigeria, many non-Muslims and moderates in Islam are ready to subdue extremists in Africa; most significant extremist-engineered crisis is that of Darfur; increased literacy and enhanced poverty alleviation programs will help decrease the influence of extremists)

Given all these fronts, the increased cooperation among key players on these fronts, and all the events that have triggered vigilance and heightened preparedness, I dare say that there is no future for the extremists in Islam! And to all who want peace on earth, that is a very good thing!

Saidsalla:

About those extremist in Islam,they didnt exist until when extremist in xtianity began their operation in some Islamic country. So,who is to blame first? The founder or the imitator? There's one president dat even said: God revealed to me to fight Muslims. I dont support killing a single innocent person,but I support fighting for freedom against accupiers. About women, they (before Islam)used to be inharited as properties are inharited,but Islam stopped that bad habit and ordered to give them whats inhirited from their parents or husbands. Women are buried alive b4 Islam. Islam stopped that,and commanded men to treat them good. Prophet (PBUH) said: the best amongst you is the best amongst his wives. What happens nowadays is a kind of enslavery.

Saidsalla:

About those extremist in Islam,they didnt exist until when extremist in xtianity began their operation in some Islamic country. [b]So,who is to blame first? The founder or the imitator? There's one president dat even said: God revealed to me to fight Muslims. I dont support killing a single innocent person,but I support fighting for freedom against accupiers. About women, they (before Islam)used to be inharited as properties are inharited,but Islam stopped that bad habit and ordered to give them whats inhirited from their parents or husbands. Women are buried alive b4 Islam. Islam stopped that,and commanded men to treat them good. Prophet (PBUH) said: the best amongst you is the best amongst his wives. What happens nowadays is a kind of enslavery. Take an example: women are employed by banks or any other body,they will not have time for their children,they must to be beautiful and young and do all what it takes to maintain their beauty even if they can spend half or more of their earnings,they must also be wearing clothes that show their shapes. Despite all this, when aged,they are replaced by other young women. You see in Islam women are valued to the extent that all they need will be provided by their father,husbands(when married) or sons when aged. And social vices is something that discouraged seriously in Islam. It happens by mere lookin at a women passingby with an indecent dress. Therefore, Islam orders women to cover their body with clothes (if they like with their faces) not because of anything that some people think. [/b]

ROTFL! The things some people come up with! Anyway, thanks for letting me know that women were buried alive until Islam came! Best joke of the year! Which primary school did you finish from?   One Muslim on NL told me thoughts are not counted as sin so why should looking at a woman in indecent dress bother muslims that they have to have all women covered up? Are they really covered up because the men CANNOT CONTROL THEIR THINGIES??   Have you forgotten that not so long ago, women were safe walking around with only the groin area covered, and the men didn't go bonkers?  You wanna go back for a refund on any education you have paid for! . . . . and claim damages for any free mis-education you have received!

We have heard a million times that Islam is peace; LET US SEE THIS PEACE IN ACTION!

seyibrown:


ROTFL! The things some people come up with! Anyway, thanks for letting me know that women were buried alive until Islam came! Best joke of the year! Which primary school did you finish from?   One Muslim on NL told me thoughts are not counted as sin so why should looking at a woman in indecent dress bother muslims that they have to have all women covered up? Are they really covered up because the men CANNOT CONTROL THEIR THINGIES??   Have you forgotten that not so long ago, women were safe walking around with only the groin area covered, and the men didn't go bonkers?  You wanna go back for a refund on any education you have paid for! . . . . and claim damages for any free mis-education you have received!

We have heard a million times that Islam is peace; LET US SEE THIS PEACE IN ACTION!

Saidsalla:

You cant see it unless u go for it. You cant kill thousands of Muslims in jos and look for peace from Islam now. You've seen it b4 when u need it. To insult is all u learned.

seyibrown:

@ Righton

If Saints are insulted; how much more murderers and oppressors! The matter of the insults you do not like is like that of the one-eyed man who goes everywhere with his one-eyed goat but takes offence when people say 'Look at that one-eyed goat' as those who do not really like him might actually be referring to him and not the goat! [b]Peaceful muslims need to do something about the 'one-eyed goat' of extremism!

charles009:

islam is a cult. they are very heartless and sinister  people. kill anybody that believes in Allah. very glad how Americans is killing scores daily with unmanned drones in the middleeast. it serves them right. Mohammed  is evil/,

seyibrown:

@ Righton

Non-Muslims just want some peace! Is it hard for peaceful muslims to IMPOSE 'PEACEFUL ISLAM' on EXTREMIST MUSLIMS just like it imposes Sharia on those who do not want it? Or is it a case of the 'dog who breastfeeds her puppies but ONLY BITE the other dog's puppies?

Most people DID NOT START OUT HATING MUSLIMS; they STARTED OUT HATING THE VIOLENCE OF EXTREMIST MUSLIMS which seems to be supported by peaceful Muslims who kept quiet on the terror being unleashed across the world! More peacefull Muslims need to speak out against the atrocities being committed in the name of their beloved religion!

If Saints are insulted; how much more murderers and oppressors! The matter of the insults you do not like is like that of the one-eyed man who goes everywhere with his one-eyed goat but takes offence when people say 'Look at that one-eyed goat' as those who do not really like him might actually be referring to him and not the goat! Peaceful muslims need to do something about the 'one-eyed goat' of extremism!


THE VIOLENCE WILL STOP, WITH THE EFFORTS OF SENSIBLE MUSLIMS OR WITH THE EFFORTS OF SENSIBLE AND AGGRAVATED NON-MUSLIMS! TO THINK THAT THE WHOLE WORLD WILL WATCH EXTREMIST ISLAMISTS TURN EARTH INTO A PLACE HOTTER THAN HELL IS A DREAM THAT WILL NEVER COME TRUE!
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seyibrown:

@ Righton


What about the females who do not want to cover their heads or faces but are forced to do so, and in this our Nigeria? Are these females, though not being muslims being DICTATED TO? What about those who want to leave Islam but are not allowed to? Why should Sharia APPLY TO NON-MUSLIMS? Is it right that Islam dictates to others but others cannot dictate to them?

seyibrown:

@ Righton

Answer this question, would those who enforced IMPOSED SHARIA IN THE NORTH BE HAPPY TO HAVE MOSAIC LAW or CHRISTIAN LAW AS THE LEGAL CODE OR EVEN ALONGSIDE SHARIA? Why should others tolerate imposed Islam when Islam cannot tolerate what others impose?

Non-Muslims just want some peace! Is it hard for peaceful muslims to IMPOSE 'PEACEFUL ISLAM' on EXTREMIST MUSLIMS just like it imposes Sharia on those who do not want it? Or is it a case of the 'dog who breastfeeds her puppies but ONLY BITE the other dog's puppies?

seyibrown:

@ Righton
Poisoned opinions? Would you tell those whose family members died in 9/11 or July 7 incidents that there opinions of Islam are poisoned, considering that they experienced Islamic extremism 'first-hand'? WHO POISONED THEIR OPINION OF ISLAM? Radicalist Muslims untamed by peaceful muslims perhaps?

If Saints are insulted; how much more murderers and oppressors!

THE VIOLENCE WILL STOP, WITH THE EFFORTS OF SENSIBLE MUSLIMS OR WITH THE EFFORTS OF SENSIBLE AND AGGRAVATED NON-MUSLIMS! TO THINK THAT THE WHOLE WORLD WILL WATCH EXTREMIST ISLAMISTS TURN EARTH INTO A PLACE HOTTER THAN HELL IS A DREAM THAT WILL NEVER COME TRUE!

seyibrown:

[b]I am sorry you feel insulted! My intentions are to spur you into seeking knowledge, and peace and showing that you have both! You obviously did not think some of your claims through before posting them or present them in the correct context.

If Islam orders women to cover their bodies (and faces) and other religions don't, why should Islamic orders be forced on those who are not Muslims and who do not wish to be covered? If Islam says all women should stay at home, why should this be forced on non-muslim women who do not want to stay at home or even women who do not have or wish to have kids?

If you think it is right for Muslims to kill non-muslims in retaliation for what you claim was done in the past, then when Muslims down tools it will be right for non-muslims to start their own killing spree in revenge. The cycle will not stop if each side is seeking revenge for what the other side did last time! It is a shame that you promote the killing of non-muslims when peaceful muslims and non-muslims are calling for an end to the senseless murders! [/b]

seyibrown:

[b]I am sorry you feel insulted! My intentions are to spur you into seeking knowledge, and peace and showing that you have both! You obviously did not think some of your claims through before posting them or present them in the correct context.

If Islam orders women to cover their bodies (and faces) and other religions don't, why should Islamic orders be forced on those who are not Muslims and who do not wish to be covered? If Islam says all women should stay at home, why should this be forced on non-muslim women who do not want to stay at home or even women who do not have or wish to have kids?

If you think it is right for Muslims to kill non-muslims in retaliation for what you claim was done in the past, then when Muslims down tools it will be right for non-muslims to start their own killing spree in revenge. The cycle will not stop if each side is seeking revenge for what the other side did last time! It is a shame that you promote the killing of non-muslims when peaceful muslims and non-muslims are calling for an end to the senseless murders! [/b]

jerseyboy:

^^^^^
Thank your God you're alive to tell the story. Many have been murdered for less.

afrika:

Just read a little note on what would clarify the argument and focus our minds where we are really heading to.
This isnt to insult anybody or vex people but, research has made it known that we should just note what we are fighting for:

Biography of the Prophet Muhammad—Illustrated Volume 1 authored by ‘Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Sarh fills the above need.

This book may be one of the rarest creations where the readers may catch a glimpse of what might have been Muhammad’s time and life.

Today, Islam has become a mortal danger to the civilised world.

jerseyboy:

Thank your God you're alive to tell the story. Many have been murdered for less

okunoba: @auwal87, u obviously don`t know much about Islamic history and present day World affairs. Talk is cheap, action speaks louder than words. If Islam was truly a religion of peace we wouldn`t have Muslims from all the four corners of the World killing and bombing innocent people, for Allah and his messenger. Islam was founded on violence and it`s followers have carried on the tradition. Tell me, how did Usman Danfodio spread Islam in Nigeria? How many raids and wars did Mohamed(PBUH) personally waged on the unbelievers? Read the hadith and Koran with an open mind and u will see that it`s filled with nothing but violence and vengeance. Islam is called imole in Yoruba, meaning forced knowledge.