Dedetwo:


Ojukwu got the money for the arms and ammunition from Awolowo, Gowon and your parents. Does this answer your question?

OgboAto:


They're generally emotional & stupid

Yebosola:
Uh[s]mmm, after going through the 4 pages of this thread, I painfully discovered that, as it was in 1966 , so it is now, and so shall it b till kingdom comes, most of the comments here are from youths who never witness the war, the comments was based on history and hear says regurgitated, Easterner never learned anything, the way Ojukwu threw them under the bus then is what Kanu is working on again, the hatred witnessed on this thread was beyond reasoning, Igbos attitude towards their host neighbors repulsive[/s].

SLAP44:
"This would mean that before an Igbo man would leave Kaduna, Lagos or Ibadan, he would have withdrawn all his money before crossing into Biafra."

I stopped reading at this point, I have never read such hogwash in all my life

I have a question for the OP, in the days leading to the mile 12 massacre of Yorubas by Fulanis in Lagos in 2015, how many of you withdrew all their money before fleeing all the way to Mowe and walking to Ibadan on foot?

Answer Me First

gwafaeziokwu:


Go and sleep, Mr host. If you had left them alone in 1967, there would have been no need to host them. They left everything and came back home ready to start afresh. Yet , for 3 years you committed atrocities to have them back. Today you are crying about nonsense.

Cherez:

Exactly how you love the thread like others that attacked Igbos.
Oga, there's COVID-19 and right thinking humans are searching for cures or seeking how to help the poor but you're here with you N30k allowance searching for arguments against facts?
Be useful with your life at least

Agboriotejoye:

What he's saying is that you travel to places that hold better economic promise for you than where you are presently.

Agboriotejoye:

In the north, majority of artisans and vocational jobs are held by Yorubas. After that, Yorubas have the highest population in the best economies in the world from Nigeria. Go to US, UK, Canada, Germany. Yorubas are the highest population of Nigerians there.

SLAP44:
"This would mean that before an Igbo man would leave Kaduna, Lagos or Ibadan, he would have withdrawn all his money before crossing into Biafra."

I stopped reading at this point, I have never read such hogwash in all my life

I have a question for the OP, in the days leading to the mile 12 massacre of Yorubas by Fulanis in Lagos in 2015, how many of you withdrew all their money before fleeing all the way to Mowe and walking to Ibadan on foot?

Answer Me First

LegendHero:


It was Eastern Region bro and that coup slaughtered majorly people from the Northern and Western Region. It paved the way for Ironsi to take over and some Igbos even went further and mocked the Hausa/Fulanis with the dead picture of their fallen hero in that coup.

Gowon that commanded the war is from the middle belt but yet we always call them Northerner. Infact a large percentage of the middle belt guys fought that war and yet we always term them as Northerner. I’m trying to show you that your argument about Nzeogwu being SS is weak. The main issue is that they killed all leaders of the other zones except the East and Ironsi became the Leader.

The first thing that drove me nuts was how Ojukwu after knowing he took a hasty decision used Awolowo (food rhetorics) as the cover up for his failure. He used Awo as the cover for his failure coz he feared the Igbos will blame him for that loss if they subject that war to critical thinking.

He sold the dummy that we were defeated coz of Awolowo and hence Yorubas are our enemy. He sold the BS to his people that Awo refused to give them food and they do no not question him as to why he depended on his enemy for food in the first place.

I don’t say you shouldn’t celebrate your heroes, but my own grievances is how you guys think you deserve any sympathy from us for what happened. We have none to give and I hope you don’t also show us any sympathy.

That’s fair enough!

Smoke55:
this is the funniest comment i have ever read! aside lagos and maybe ogun,which other south west state is doing well? do you no that 60 to 70% of investements in lagos is either own by foreigners or federal government,how many indegenous (yoruba) companies are in lagos? the truth is yorubas are scared to compete with others outside their region,thats why they dnt like traveling...if they are comfortable in their region,they wont be toping the population in those contries u metioned,take fulanis as an instance dey control nigeria hence they dont fancy traveling out.

Smoke55:
in other words nigeria hold better economic promise than us,china,britain and co? if not why do we have them in nigeria?

gwafaeziokwu:


That is the fact I want you to swallow.

You deployed the tactics of killing 2 million children of your opponents in order to force their hand and win the war ( however unconventional it was) , and then declared that all is fair in war.

Why do you lots then have problem with Chinua Achebe writing the obvious in his last bullet to a failed nation.

Why the summersaults of denials and name callings till this day. What exactly are you afraid of.

You needed to starve 2 million children to death in order to win the war fine, why don't you own up to that tragedy.

The truth is that you lots were beginning to get away with the borrowed pretentious robe of saints with no hand in the tragedy against Igbos between 1966 -1970. Until Achebe jolted everyone to reality.

Difrent:


Revisionist
If your young military boys had not killed the leaders of other regions while tipping off their own eastern leaders, we won't have 1967......this is the beginning of bad blood and it was orchestrated by nnamdi azikwe and Co because they were not allowed to be leaders in the west.... Who would want to rule in the west and appoint his deputy to rule in the east if not a greedy bastard like Zik

Smoke55:
this is the funniest comment i have ever read! aside lagos and maybe ogun,which other south west state is doing well? do you no that 60 to 70% of investements in lagos is either own by foreigners or federal government,how many indegenous (yoruba) companies are in lagos? the truth is yorubas are scared to compete with others outside their region,thats why they dnt like traveling...if they are comfortable in their region,they wont be toping the population in those contries u metioned,take fulanis as an instance dey control nigeria hence they dont fancy traveling out.

Smoke55:
in other words nigeria hold better economic promise than us,china,britain and co? if not why do we have them in nigeria?

Agboriotejoye:

What is the ratio of Americans in Nigeria compared to Nigerians in America. Is it because Americans are lazy that we have more Nigerians in the US than we have Americans in Nigeria. It's simple. Economic migration is done in search of better opportunities. The US can offer more Nigerians better opportunities than Nigeria can offer Americans

oyatz:
Do you see citizens of the US, China, UK or France coming to hawk phone charger or Lacasera in Nigieria? How many European citizens do you see putting a pack of gala on their heads , running after moving cars in traffic hold ups in Lagos, Ibadan, Abuja or Kaduna?

How many Chinese or American citizens are trooping to Nigeria to huzzle?

The richest Americans work and live in America.



Please read the Push-and-Pull theory of human migration.

Smoke55:
so you believe americans in nigeria are here for economic opportunities(exploit),while the igbos in SW are there because their land is barren and incondusive? the same reasons while we dnt have many westerners in china is the same reason why we dnt have south westerners in south east.

Kennyswag:
what will yorubas be looking for in SE? Same place I have been to..

oyatz:
That was the proganda you were fed on till now.

1) It wasn't the responsibility of Awolowo or Nigeria to supply food to Biafra.
Awolowo wasn't the Minister of Agriculture of Biafra.

2) Nigeria had a legitimate right to determine what goes in and out of her territory. Every sovereign Country have this right.

It is based on this right that Israel, an ally of Biafran imposed on total blockade of the Gaza strip such that today, Gaza has technically become the largest open prison in the world.

3) Purely on humanitarian ground, the Nigerian Government opened a safe corridor for Red Cross and other International Agencies to transport food and medicines to the starving masses of Biafria but Ojukwu rejected this offer , insisting on being allowed to air lift foods from Sao Tome & Principle, a coded mean of smuggling arms into Biafra.


4) The land, Sea and Air blockade caused Biafria to capituate and the mindless war ended.

Without this method , the civil war would have lasted for at least 10 years with more millions of people dieing unnecessary and huge resources wasted.

5) Next time when you want to go to Biafra war-11, sit down and plan adequately with worst case scenario like;

What if the coastal territories do go with Biafran? Never assume they will.

Do we have enough money to prosecute the war? Do we have ready-made resources to exchange for weapons or secure the support of the superpowers?

War an expensive project through human history and no Superpower will like to diminish her status by siding the losing side. Western countries only support the side where they can gain something from.

Do we have enough weapons to face our opponents?
Who are our allies and our opponents?

Build Silos in all your major cities and store foods that can last for at least 4 years.

Set aside a regiment in charge of food , including production, storage and distribution. Let them start raising different species of fowls , Turkey and ducks to supply protein within months.


Don't EVER assume your opponent will cooperate with you to win

#NEVER find your self in a position that you will be at the mercy of your opponent.

I wish you good luck.




May all the souls that died during the civil war resp in peace.
May God forgive us all and heal our land. Amen.

Agboriotejoye:

Most Americans in Nigeria are in the upper class of life. They are mostly employers of labour and where employed, occupy the best positions in the org. I'm sure you'll agree that majority of Igbo in the SW and even north are into small businesses with no more than two or three employees (if any). It's that scale that is the difference. Like I said, you can compare the ratio of Americans in Lagos to that of Igbo

SLAP44:


Did you hear that they went to the bank to make withdrawals as bullets were raining on them as they left the north and west?

Do you have a brain?

oyatz:
Do you see citizens of the US, China, UK or France coming to hawk phone charger or Lacasera in Nigieria? How many European citizens do you see putting a pack of gala on their heads , running after moving cars in traffic hold ups in Lagos, Ibadan, Abuja or Kaduna?

How many Chinese or American citizens are trooping to Nigeria to huzzle?

The richest Americans work and live in America.



Please read the Push-and-Pull theory of human migration.

Agboriotejoye:

If you say 60% to 70% of investments in Lagos is owned by foreigners and FG, it means Yoruba owns 40% which means they're still doing well considering the mix that make up that 60% you mentioned. FG, other nationals, other tribes within Nigeria is a very large mix you'll agree.

You're contradicting yourself if you say they're scared to compete but still agree that they have the highest population in the midst developed economies outside Nigeria.

Smoke55:
hahahaha oga you said yorubas dnt come to the east because east is barren,dispite the east having the busiest market in west africa , and i ask again how many yorubas live in the north and south south? or are these two regions barren too? chinese and americans coming to nigeria does that make those countries barren? or does that make nigeria better than those countries? and i ask again do you no what business exploit means?

aribisala0:
You see there are so many lies about that time that people believe without questioning.

Some of it they believe because they WANT TO. This may sound strange but people can make a deliberate effort to believe a falsehood like the young lad who walks in and finds his mother in copulo with Pastor Koboko and persuades himself they were praying. The human capacity for self deception is astounding.

Now consider the story told about Awolowo and the indigenization policy. How he conspired as Minister of Finance to facilitate the acquisition of businesses by Yorubas.

The Fact is Awolowo left Gowon's government in 1971 in fact he sent is his resignation letter giving notice in 1970. This is public knowledge.
It is also a fact that the First indigenization decree was promulgated in 1972 With Shehu Shagari as Minister of Finance from 1971-1975. Still you will never hear Shagari's name but Awolowo.

WHY??

The reason is simple.

The civil war brought a new and profound sense of failure for these people and they remained in shock for a long time. They needed a narrative to explain their failure. For them the principal reason for their failure had to be Awo and by extension the Yoruba.Reality was irrelevant.
Well we differ. You lost out not because of Yoruba betrayal(we were not allies politically) but rather because of your tendency to act impulsively without planning or regard to consequences. Just like we have seen recently with Nnamdi Kanu

Essentially they are owned by a deep sense of self hate that is so corrosive internally it had to be externalized and Awo and the Yorubas are a ready alibi.
Till tomorrow they have not been able to confront and process or interrogate the pogroms of 66 and 67 and its perpetrators ,they cannot even look them in the eye. A case of collective Stockholm syndrome.
Well They are entitled to their hate. We are entitled to ensure the fidelity of any historical narratives.

Awolowo was VERY GOOD to them and they should make a big statue for him in Owerri

Smoke55:
those yorubas in western countries are mostly employees,employees dont compete,40% out of 100% is very poor! what if foreigners decides to go back to their states and countries? do you no that 99 if not 100% of businesses,and investements in the east are own by easterners?....do you no that easterners own upto 10 to 15% investements across the nation outside their region?