nuelsam:
I didn't create this thread actually...she did and apparently she's being emotional over the rape issue instead of being logical.
I can't deal.

MrBachelor:
I don't see where he justified rape, though.

pansophist:


I remember a quote from one of Chris Rock standup. He said and I quote, "men do not have female friends, men have women they haven't bleeped yet".

A large amount of men can not maintain a non sexual relationship with women. Also, it is quite common for men to misinterpret platonic interest to a romantic one, and think "NO" means "YES, but try harder". The social dynamic is not clear cut, and it makes all things messy.

About the topic, I am a proponent of due process, but where I got off the bus is when he was holding the lady accountable of her rape, more like holding George Floyd accountable for his murder. Makes no sense at all.

48noble:


You are just another proud Beetch , this guy was just educating you and here u r with ur peanut brain trying to shame him.

Rapists are entitled to a Lawyer for his defense and the raped must provide evidence to prove d charge, that's d law.

Nnaabros:


This is exactly the same advice I was spreading on twitter and they all descended on me, calling me 'potential rapist'

I discretely avoid any rape arguments. Everyone should fight their battles in their own way.

missimelda01:

He's right because you say so?
Before I say another thing, please read the bolded in my post again, then read yours and tell me what is the relation. The man said 'if a girl has wronged him..', meaning the reason for rape can also be the girl's fault.. how's that a proper statement? And why shouldn't I attack anyone that supports that kind of thing.

missimelda01:

I should edit my post and add this for everyone to see.
What are you saying? You blame a girl for walking at night, which mean you blame Uwa for going to read at night. Guy this your illustration no follow at allllll.

I'm dating a guy and he rapes me, I'm supposed to take part of the blame for that too? Are you kidding me right now.. do you have sisters?? Damn.
Jullima I'm done with these guys.

Ariza:
Here is the truth of this whole matter! I do not believe in placards, hashtags or online protests or threads they have done nothing and will have little or no effect. I believe in Action! In Reality! Let the ladies be on guard! Take precautions! Don't walk alone at night, have teaser and pepper spray with you, learn little combative martial arts, be fit to Run, let your No be No. Don't visit a guy at home if you aren't ready to go down. Do away with Male friends! Stop losing guards by talking and smiling at every guy that says "Hello" it's not being approachable but available! Respect yourself,have lots of Dignity and don't forget to Pray.

It's a dangerous world out there, don't think all #saynotorape rants will make any difference. Act!

Omar09:


Come here let me kiss you! Although after what pansop hist said one time about the mouth, I take back my kiss and present a hug instead.

In other words, you made a lot of sense. I still wonder tho if you are a woman or just an older one or one with older brain... No offense!

Liposure:
but how do u expect a rape victim 2 provide evidence of her rape when u and i know she's psychologically incapable cos of PTSD. haba, thats not fair

Ariza:
I'm 56 will be celebrating my 57th birthday soon. I've written that here before nah

pansophist:


Rape is not a culture in Nigeria.

Techcrunchng:
Scenario 2: A girl was walking on the street, on her own, maybe around the hour of 8 pm. A guy waylaid her and raped her at the nearest corner.
Both of them has committed rape! But they will not likely get the same sentence if charged for rape.

I think your problem is lack of comprehensive understanding, the guy is trying to let you know that the emboldened has higher punishment than scenerio 1 and 3

there's nowhere he said ladies shouldn't walk around in the night nevertheless, females ought to take precautionary measures wherever necessary because there would always be the evil ones out there.

No man supports a rapist except the person committing that particular raping with the rapist (the co-rapist), OP a simple illustration from another dimension of what your so called "animal contact" ( your contact portrays who you are ) and many commentators here are trying to say is that:

1: A driver who don't have a driver's license and ran over and killed an individual on suicidal attempt who happened to intentionally jumped over the moving vehicle.
2: And a driver who purposely ran over and killed an individual just because he/she is provoked or offended.

The driver 1 will receive lighter punishment (maybe some months/years imprisonment with payment for damages) because the driver failed to possess the requisite requirement before driving a vehicle on the road, now you must believe me that the deceased has a share of the punishment indirectly because he/she contributed to the circumstances which led to his/her death, now who received the highest punishment between the driver 1 and the deceased? Of course the deceased because he/she lost his/her life in the process.

Now in the case of driver 2, he/she will receive a maximum punishment perhaps death by hanging or at least life imprisonment; from the look of things it's a win win justice here as there is no other punishment to be given to the driver 2 to exceed the havoc wrecked.

So back to main topic at hand, the above examples are applicable to a rape case. Rape case is judged based on circumstances although every rapist must be punished if found guilty but not on the same scale.

In a case whereby the victim contributed to the circumstances that led to the rape he/she will indirectly receive a punishment in the sense that the offender will surely be released after serving his/her term and rehabilitation meanwhile some rapists will be jailed for life depending on how it happened for example those that committed Uwa menace will never have their lives spared if caught.

So ladies be careful on whatever you do and whoever you mingle with because it's not everyone that's sound upstairs and we know every rapist must be punished if found guilty but my question is, based on the circumstances that led to the rape will the punishment heal the trauma and everything even if it's 10 years imprisonment?

Jullima:
@Ari za,

Yes! I am emotional, if you aren’t after seeing Uwa’s pictures online then there’s something seriously broken in you.

If you don’t have anything to say it’s best you stop exposing yourself on the internet. What you just typed even made less sense than before.

You say hashtags and social media isn’t effective yet that’s what got our ineffective police to do their jobs. When there’s a collective outrage it shames the authorities into doing their jobs., even the president got involved.

You seem to be oblivious that we live in a society and the way of life of the people in that society creates their culture. How do we change a culture? How do we change the collective attitude we have towards rape? It’s by these conversations you and I are having and multiple of such conversations around the internet.

Future generations will be products of the culture you and I will create today.

People are acting, nothing like emotions and empathy for your fellow man to spur people into action. Obviously, precautions ONLY are not effective, women have been doing it and STILL do, we haven’t STOPPED!

You prefer to retain the status quo, while some people prefer to change the rape culture, the conversations about rape in Nigeria. SM and its hashtags is the best thing to happen to Nigeria, it gave us a platform to mobilize.

Uwa’s rape story will probably stop trending tomorrow or the day after next but as a society, her story and the conversations that ensued has left its imprint on the consciousness of the people. Tomorrow, it will be another rape story, and another, and another and so it goes little by little, conversation by conversations, it might take years probably generations but people will start to question their attitude towards rape and do better, even the police and our leaders are part of the society, hence aren’t immune to these conversations, we also want them to do better.

Only through agitation and protest has real change be brought upon. “There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest”. These protests are for generations yet to be born, we do these so hopefully they meet a much more better society. It’s not a women only fight, it’s a fight for ALL Nigerians. We need to create a better society for the vulnerable; children (boys and girls), old & young, men & women, no gender or age is immune from being a rape victim.

Nigerians should protest more and stop accepting the status quo.

#justiceforuwa

Ariza:
Another one bursting with emotions! But one question to you Madam how many rape cases hit the internet if it doesn't involve a celebrity, a gruesome murder, a church or anything people want to wail about? How many rapists have gotten true convictions through your so called Nigerian Police Force? Even Uwa's parents were told to pay 'mobility fee' before the case can be pushed. A police officer asked Uwa's father " was his child the first to be raped?" That should show you lots of things which I will point some out for you in case you aren't capable of processing it.
That statement means:

1)To most out there , Rape is just Rape until it becomes Murder, And truly many women have been raped the only reason they aren't making wave is because they weren't killed!

2) Rape cases are reported but dismissed. Even your so called Nigerian force have done a lot of sweeping under carpet and covering up.

3)Out of million of cases only one or two victims get justice, only few get to the internet. Before Ada, Jennifer and Uwa do you know how many others have been raped? How many will make wave that will prompt placards,hastags and ONLINE protests. Actions that died within a week or two. And then we go back to our normal lives until another gruesome one happens again then we come back to Rant.

The reality is, our society, government and Security has failed us, Women should stand up and fight! Protest, Guide yourselves,Speak out . Don't cover up rapists husbands, don't date rapists , stop false rape allegations then we will see way forward! And yes! Pay attention to your male child's sexuality like you do the female. Fight against Rape Across all genders, then we will have saner community.

Act and Stop Ranting! Be Realistic! It's high time Women, Nigerian Women like women of other nations arise and fight this battle and stop waiting on Men to. Move out!

Techcrunchng:
Scenario 2: A girl was walking on the street, on her own, maybe around the hour of 8 pm. A guy waylaid her and raped her at the nearest corner.
Both of them has committed rape! But they will not likely get the same sentence if charged for rape.

I think your problem is lack of comprehensive understanding, the guy is trying to let you know that the emboldened has higher punishment than scenerio 1 and 3

there's nowhere he said ladies shouldn't walk around in the night nevertheless, females ought to take precautionary measures wherever necessary because there would always be the evil ones out there.

No man supports a rapist except the person committing that particular raping with the rapist (the co-rapist), OP a simple illustration from another dimension of what your so called "animal contact" ( your contact portrays who you are ) and many commentators here are trying to say is that:

1: A driver who don't have a driver's license and ran over and killed an individual on suicidal attempt who happened to intentionally jumped over the moving vehicle.
2: And a driver who purposely ran over and killed an individual just because he/she is provoked or offended.

The driver 1 will receive lighter punishment (maybe some months/years imprisonment with payment for damages) because the driver failed to possess the requisite requirement before driving a vehicle on the road, now you must believe me that the deceased has a share of the punishment indirectly because he/she contributed to the circumstances which led to his/her death, now who received the highest punishment between the driver 1 and the deceased? Of course the deceased because he/she lost his/her life in the process.

Now in the case of driver 2, he/she will receive a maximum punishment perhaps death by hanging or at least life imprisonment; from the look of things it's a win win justice here as there is no other punishment to be given to the driver 2 to exceed the havoc wrecked.

So back to main topic at hand, the above examples are applicable to a rape case. Rape case is judged based on circumstances although every rapist must be punished if found guilty but not on the same scale.

In a case whereby the victim contributed to the circumstances that led to the rape he/she will indirectly receive a punishment in the sense that the offender will surely be released after serving his/her term and rehabilitation meanwhile some rapists will be jailed for life depending on how it happened for example those that committed Uwa menace will never have their lives spared if caught.

So ladies be careful on whatever you do and whoever you mingle with because it's not everyone that's sound upstairs and we know every rapist must be punished if found guilty but my question is, based on the circumstances that led to the rape will the punishment heal the trauma and everything even if it's 10 years imprisonment?

themaestro08:


So on point. Your gender folks are inherently hypocritical, rude and uncouth e.g this fool of an OP.

Are you on Twitter?

Ariza:
I have a Twitter account I hardly use.


We can be emotional, Yes. But all other things you mentioned aren't gender base.

Jullima:

themaestro08:


I concur it ain't a culture in Nigeria, prove otherwise.

Liposure:
but how do u expect a rape victim 2 provide evidence of her rape when u and i know she's psychologically incapable cos of PTSD. haba, thats not fair

EricSmallz:

I love your write-ups sir. I hope the OP reads and understand this.

missimelda01:

I should edit my post and add this for everyone to see.
What are you saying? You blame a girl for walking at night, which mean you blame Uwa for going to read at night. Guy this your illustration no follow at allllll.

I'm dating a guy and he rapes me, I'm supposed to take part of the blame for that too? Are you kidding me right now.. do you have sisters?? Damn.
Jullima I'm done with these guys.

KenBen217:

you are acting like you don't know that women have used rape accusations to threaten and actually end men...this guy is right...you OP you're the animal and the wicked person...ask Cristiano Ronaldo and especially the late Kobe Bryant...Las Las...rape is not good...but only one the grounds that it was rape...dude is right...women can fuccing pretend...there's a school of thought that says apart from gang rape and drug rape..check am...forgerrit...u alone cannot rape a lady...90% u are liable to fail...if she closes her legs...how will u enter ,not saying it doesn't happen...but there's a lot of grey area in rape... accept it...if you like don't...

missimelda01:
First of all, I can't believe I have such an animal on my contact list. How can you hate rape and try to justify it at the same time!!!!
Because you spend change on a girl, you think she deserves to be beaten or even raped??

We need to teach our boys the right thing, we owe it to them.

Say No To RAPE.

Modified
I am not against investigating a rape accusation, I have brothers and I also know how evil some ladies can be. However, in the screenshot below he said
If the girl too was at fault and maybe she wronged the guy, the judge will be more lenient on the guy.. to the people defending him, what does this statement mean? No matter what a lady does, beating her up or raping her shouldn't be an option.

boiz2men:


Did you read his submissions?

We know rape is bad.

You don't think the accused deserve a fair hearing?

Is this what you saying?

Cos it seems the guy was trying to make you understand that convictions are made only after fair hearing from both sides but your emotions are interpreting his message as rape apologist....

If your brother was accused of rape, would you judge him without hearing his side of the story?