isale_gan2:

Yoruba Language - Lesson 1

Assignment:
1) TRANSLATE into English;
2) State the DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY of translation, using a rating of 1-5, 1 being easy Yoruba that a 12 yr old bilingual speaker should know, and 5 being Yoruba so hard and obsolete only a grandfather or a Yoruba college major would understand.

I am serious. Everyone (reading it) has to do this!
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Nigba ti iriri aye ba n fa irewesi, ti omo adari hu'run si n ba'nilokan je,
je ki ero re sinmi lori ileri is'ododo mi pelu re. Bi o tile je pe n' ko ni
agbara lati mu iji aye duro tabi yi okan omo eniyan pada; tuju ka ore mi,
ki osi ma ranti lati je ki okan re maa yo nitoripe igba kan o lo bi orere,
bee si ni aye kii to bi opaa 'bon.

L'otito ni pe Eledua ni kan ni ore ododo, bee si ni ko s'alatileyin kan bi
oba oga ogo, oba alara; ireti mi wa ninu Oluwa, okan mi si ni 'gbagbo pe
ara ire ni yio ma fi wa da. Sibe sibe, mo na owo isore alai l'ero idale si
o, mo si lero fun itewogba aise'yemeji, nitori wipe mo mo pe gbogbo omo
adamo lo ni lo imule tii je ki agbelebu aye fuye fun ni lati gbe.

Mo wa fun o, mo si s'leri lati fi gbogbo ohun ti moni ba o lo, ipinu mi ni
lati ba o dun nu ni gba opo, ba k' edun ni gba ti sonmoni ba lo tiirin.

Ni igbagbo pe n o ma fe o titi lai, k'eledua o ran mi lowo (ASE).

You dey practise wedding vows ni ?

Se o fe se igbeyawo ni?

Invite us to come chop Iyan and Obe Isapa o

dayokanu:

I heard you are hoarding the much needed Toto,

Either you or isale better release it sharp sharp

What if I told you Toto is the name of a manufacturer of plumbing accessories? Check out their product line here.

Kilode?!:

You dey practise wedding vows ni ?

Se o fe se igbeyawo ni?

Invite us to come chop Iyan and Obe Isapa o

Kilode?! Kilode?! Kilode?!  How many times did I call your name?

Do you think I could write something like that? lol.  Well, I could transcribe it if someone was talking I guess.

How hard do you think it is?  Come on now.   

isale_gan2:

Kilode?! Kilode?! Kilode?!

Okunrin lon ke si 

How hard do you think it is?  Come on now.   

I Think maybe 3/5 ?

I'm a very generous grader

isale_gan2:

Yoruba Language - Lesson 1

Assignment:
1) TRANSLATE into English;
2) State the DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY of translation, using a rating of 1-5, 1 being easy Yoruba that a 12 yr old bilingual speaker should know, and 5 being Yoruba so hard and obsolete only a grandfather or a Yoruba college major would understand.

I am serious.  Everyone (reading it) has to do this!  
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Nigba ti iriri aye ba n fa irewesi, ti omo adari hu'run si n ba'nilokan je,
je ki ero re sinmi lori ileri is'ododo mi pelu re. Bi o tile je pe n' ko ni
agbara lati mu iji aye duro tabi yi okan omo eniyan pada; tuju ka ore mi,
ki osi ma ranti lati je ki okan re maa yo nitoripe igba kan o lo bi orere,
bee si ni aye kii to bi opaa 'bon.

L'otito ni pe Eledua ni kan ni ore ododo, bee si ni ko s'alatileyin kan bi
oba oga ogo, oba alara;  ireti mi wa ninu Oluwa, okan mi si ni 'gbagbo  pe
ara ire ni yio ma fi wa da. Sibe sibe, mo na owo isore alai l'ero idale  si
o, mo si lero fun itewogba aise'yemeji, nitori wipe mo mo pe gbogbo omo
adamo lo ni lo imule tii je ki agbelebu aye fuye fun ni lati gbe.

Mo wa fun o, mo si s'leri lati fi gbogbo ohun ti moni ba o lo, ipinu mi ni
lati ba o dun nu ni gba opo, ba k' edun ni gba ti sonmoni ba lo tiirin.

Ni igbagbo pe n o ma fe o titi  lai, k'eledua o ran mi lowo (ASE).

Dear Isale,

When the challenges of life make us faint and mankind brings us much sorrow, let your thoughts toward me be anchored on the faithfulness that exists between you and I.

Though I do not possess the power to calm/stop the storms of life or change peoples minds, be cheerful my dear friend, and remember to let your heart rejoice because no season remains forever and life is not bigger than the riffle.

It is true that Only God is a true friend and there is no other support like the Lord of Glory, the king of wonders; my hope is in the Lord, and my heart believes that He will perform good wonders with us.

But still, I extend a trustworthy hand of friendship to you, And I expect an acceptance that’s is devoid of any doubt, because I know all mankind need someone faithful that will allow the carrying of life crosses become bearable/lighter.

I am for you, and I promise to love you with all my belongings. My resolution is to rejoice with you when you are happy and share in your sorrow. Have faith that I will love you forever.

May God help me. (Amen)

Yours truly

OAM4J 

Difficulty Rate: 3.5

Kilode?!:

Okunrin lon ke si 


I Think maybe 3/5 ?

I'm a very generous grader

Talk to the hand! 

Someone else translated the letter.  [s]You can redeem yourself by submitting your own. [/s]  

P.S. The rating is for how hard it is to translate. What are you grading? How good the letter is?

OAM4J:


Dear Isale,

When the challenges of life make us faint and mankind brings us much sorrow, let your thoughts toward me be anchored on the faithfulness that exists between you and I.

Though I do not possess the power to calm/stop the storms of life or change peoples minds, be cheerful my dear friend, and remember to let your heart rejoice because no season remains forever and life is not bigger than the riffle.

It is true that Only God is a true friend and there is no other support like the Lord of Glory, the king of wonders; my hope is in the Lord, and my heart believes that He will perform good wonders with us.

But still, I extend a trustworthy hand of friendship to you, And I expect an acceptance that’s is devoid of any doubt, because I know all mankind need someone faithful that will allow the carrying of life crosses become bearable/lighter.

I am for you, and I promise to love you with all my belongings. My resolution is to rejoice with you when you are happy and share in your sorrow. Have faith that I will love you forever.

May God help me. (Amen)

Yours truly

OAM4J 

Difficulty Rate: 3.5

Great! Thanks. That was really hard to translate. Don't you agree that it is not everyday Yoruba that people speak to each other? It's not even the kind of Yoruba you would typically write someone. Am I wrong? I always make excuses that it's due to the lack of accents or tonal markings on the vowels when I have trouble reading Yoruba, but in this case, even the words were hard to identify.

The degree of difficulty of understanding it is like a 5, if you ask me.

True, this kind of Yoruba only exists in the textbooks, Yoruba dramas and among the elders.

The Yoruba many of us speak now is what my late grandma called adalu dapo. (mixtures of many)

Its usually some simple Yoruba words with English verbs and some slangs.

For example: 'Isale, se mo pe mo love e pa' ('pa' is a slang for 'very much' which in real Yoruba should have been gan or pupo)

Anyway, all languages are dynamic including English.

isale_gan2:

P.S. The rating is for how hard it is to translate. What are you grading? How good the letter is?

My rating was for how simple the Yoruba is IMO 

1 = Very easy
5 = Conc. Ijinle

Clients go vex, no time to translate now o.

OAM4J:

True, this kind of Yoruba only exists in the textbooks, Yoruba dramas and among the elders.

There is it!  Thank you o jare.  Tough for anyone.  Well, the writer is exceptional.  Cos I couldn't write like that even if I undertake to immerse myself in Yoruba literature and nothing but, for the next 6 months straight.  lol.

"Pa" is now also a slang which has been redefined to mean "very much," but the original Yoruba meaning conveys an idea of death or cessation (of something), does it not?  Like, "pa ri e."  I'm prob getting too technical now. 

Translated:

When the vicissitudes of life depresses you, when man breaks your heart, anchor your thoughts on our shared covenant of faithfulness.

Although, I may not not have the powers to stop the storms of life or change the hearts of men;  Be cheerful my friend, let your heart rejoice because of the fleeting nature of time, because life does not follow time like a gun's shaft follows its handle.

It is true, God is the only true friend, there is no comforter or backbone like the king of glory, the wonderful God; My hope lies in the Lord, My heart trusts in his protective hands.

Still, I stretch out my hands of loyalty and friendship towards you, that you may take it without second thoughts, because I know every man needs a covenant that helps lessen the weight of life.

I'm yours, I make a promise to share all I have with you, a promise to rejoice with you in the times of plenty, and to sympathise and stand by you in your moments of despair.

In the hope that my love will be forever, May God be my strength. Amen





You must tell that guy to pay us something o, I don't write wedding vows for free o

No worries, Kilode?!  I forgot some are working the day after Easter.    Now I know where you are definitely probably not. 

Okay, I won't speculate on it (ur location or i.d.) again.

^^ Restless warriors don't usually take vacations.

When they do, they are like ambassadors, they observe all holidays, both home and abroad.

Kilode?!:

Translated:

When the vicissitudes of life depresses you, when man breaks your heart, anchor your thoughts on our shared covenant of faithfulness.

Although, I may not not have the powers to stop the storms of life or change the hearts of men;  Be cheerful my friend, let your heart rejoice because of the fleeting nature of time, because life does not follow time like a gun's shaft follows its handle.

It is true, God is the only true friend, there is no comforter or backbone like the king of glory, the wonderful God; My hope lies in the Lord, My heart trusts in his protective hands.

Still, I stretch out my hands of loyalty and friendship towards you, that you may take it without no second thoughts, because I know every man needs a covenant that helps lessen the weight of life.

I'm yours, I make a promise to share all I have with you, a promise to rejoice with you in the times of plenty, and to sympathise and stand by you in your moments of despair.

In the hope that my love will be forever, May God be my strength. Amen

Wow!  This is neat!  I want more translations now. I've gotten greedy. lol.  

You must tell that guy to pay us something o, I don't write wedding vows for free o

For all you know, I could have lifted it from a textbook, or someone's old homework book.  When I was in school in Naija, a couple of times we actually had to write letters in Yoruba.  But that was kids stuff compared to this.

Hey kiddos! What did I miss?

isale_gan2:

Yoruba Language - Lesson 1

Assignment:
1) TRANSLATE into English;
2) State the DEGREE OF DIFFICULTY of translation, using a rating of 1-5, 1 being easy Yoruba that a 12 yr old bilingual speaker should know, and 5 being Yoruba so hard and obsolete only a grandfather or a Yoruba college major would understand.

I am serious.  Everyone (reading it) has to do this!  
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Nigba ti iriri aye ba n fa irewesi, ti omo adari hu'run si n ba'nilokan je,
je ki ero re sinmi lori ileri is'ododo mi pelu re. Bi o tile je pe n' ko ni
agbara lati mu iji aye duro tabi yi okan omo eniyan pada; tuju ka ore mi,
ki osi ma ranti lati je ki okan re maa yo nitoripe igba kan o lo bi orere,
bee si ni aye kii to bi opaa 'bon.

L'otito ni pe Eledua ni kan ni ore ododo, bee si ni ko s'alatileyin kan bi
oba oga ogo, oba alara;  ireti mi wa ninu Oluwa, okan mi si ni 'gbagbo  pe
ara ire ni yio ma fi wa da. Sibe sibe, mo na owo isore alai l'ero idale  si
o, mo si lero fun itewogba aise'yemeji, nitori wipe mo mo pe gbogbo omo
adamo lo ni lo imule tii je ki agbelebu aye fuye fun ni lati gbe.

Mo wa fun o, mo si s'leri lati fi gbogbo ohun ti moni ba o lo, ipinu mi ni
lati ba o dun nu ni gba opo, ba k' edun ni gba ti sonmoni ba lo tiirin.

Ni igbagbo pe n o ma fe o titi  lai, k'eledua o ran mi lowo (ASE).

I won't even dare!!! My yoruba no reach this kind level o, OAM4J you try o. kilode? na u write the thing? This na 8/5 for me o

naijababe:

Hey kiddos! What did I miss?

Do the assignment, please.  

Get a load of the translations so far.    You see all these people who are a credit to Yoruba culture, huh?  Aintcha proud?  I am not worthy!  

Part of the motive here is to assuage my own feeling of inadequacy when it comes to my language - THE language.  I insist the letter is written in an almost  obsolete Yoruba language, not day-to-day conversational vernacular.  Certainly nothing close to the creole I try to pass off as Yo'oba. lol.

naijababe:

I won't even dare!!! My yoruba no reach this kind level o, OAM4J you try o. kilode? na u write the thing? This na 8/5 for me o

I just noticed that you are actually an agitprop. You stir the pot. Don't know why I never noticed till now. God protect people like me sha. At least its not a sin to be naive and gullible.

You on the other hand. . .

isale_gan2:

I just noticed that you are actually an[b] agitprop[/b]. You stir the pot. Don't know why I never noticed till now. God protect people like me sha. At least its not a sin to be naive and gullible.

You on the other hand. . .

Helep me somebody! Isale forgets that i'm an airhead masquerading to be cool. Someone tell me what the bolded means

naijababe:

Helep me somebody! Isale forgets that i'm an airhead masquerading to be cool. Someone tell me what the bolded means

Yeah, right!  Can I say your profession, or is it classified? 

An Agit-Prop is an Agitator-Propagandist.  One of those terms used more often in political science class and less so in day-to-day political discourse.

You, my friend, are a pot-stirrer troublemaker.

Isale uses so much liberal arts lingo, she'll make pure science people have inferiority complex

naijababe:

I won't even dare!!! My yoruba no reach this kind level o, OAM4J you try o. kilode? na u write the thing? This na 8/5 for me o

And what in carnation is 8/5 on a scale of 1-5?    Didn't you have to pass Math before they gave you all those Palis from Oyinbo schools?  I admit I suck at Math, but it don't look kosher to me.  That's all I'm saying.

Kilode?!:

Isale uses so much liberal arts lingo, she'll make pure science people have inferiority complex 

Kilode,
No! Don't fall for it!  She's trying to lull you into a false sense of security, so you would underestimate her.  Then, when you least expect it, she'll pull the rug out from under you!

Kilode?!:

Isale uses so much liberal arts lingo, she'll make pure science people have inferiority complex

Honestly, i'm so clueless now, i think i need to go back to school. She forgets I'm an ara oko after all

Is it too late to say, I actually am enamoured of "pure science" people?

You people should take it easy on some of us who went to Ifowosowopo community schools, Abulu Muwonleru in Okokomaiko

I no sabi all these turenshi - ede geesi you una dey throw up and down. Some of us only get Standard 8 abeg.  

isale_gan2:

And what in carnation is 8/5 on a scale of 1-5?    Didn't you have to pass Math before they gave you all those Palis from Oyinbo schools?  I admit I suck at Math, but it don't look kosher to me.  That's all I'm saying.

Kilode,
No! Don't fall for it!  She's trying to lull you into a false sense of security, so you would underestimate her.  Then, when you least expect it, she'll pull the rug out from under you!

Who told you i have a pali?

Can I just say that all I've gotten from Isale today is just abuse. Hope y'all are paying attention now. Igba t'esinsin j'elegbo, enikan o gbo o. I dont want to see any teary smileys when I unleash my wrath o

@ OAM4J, your own better now, what about certified ara oko like me? At least your own na Okokomaiko - shebi Lagos ni yen, me wey come from Awori hinterland nko?

naijababe:

Who told you i have a pali?

And you deliberately [b]bolded [/b]the wrong paragraph just to prove how "ara-oko" you are, right?  I can read you like a book!  

Can I just say that all I've gotten from Isale today is just abuse. Hope y'all are paying attention now. Igba t'esinsin j'elegbo, enikan o gbo o. I dont want to see any teary smileys when I unleash my wrath o

"Wrath."  

Isale, enamored? As in your Right brain seeking Left brain balance? Hmm

False sense of security? Another liberal art register shey?  

Naijababe can't fool us anymore. She obviously sits in a pent house corner office with a magnificent view of the North sea.

naijababe:

@ OAM4J, your own better now, what about certified ara oko like me? At least your own na Okokomaiko - shebi Lagos ni yen, me wey come from Awori hinterland nko?

Abeg no compare yourself with me jor, at least you benefited from your Awori cooperative development fund wey dem take sponsor you go obodo oyinbo.

Me abi like Jonathan, wey no get school bag or school sandals, even if dem dash me school bag, I no get textbooks, and untop bad my papa no name me Goodluck, maybe i for don get luck.

OAM4J:

You people should take it easy on some of us who went to [b]Ifowosowopo [/b]community schools, Abulu Muwonleru in Okokomaiko

I no sabi all these turenshi - ede geesi you una dey throw up and down. Some of us only get Standard 8 abeg.  

Don't start.  

Ifowosowopo koo, Ifowonfoloke nii.  

At least Jonathan still go school without shoes but with uniform, me wey I wear only singlet reach Standard 6 nko?

Hmmm, we thank God sha.