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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by UbongCR7(m): 9:36am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
this is HOW we catch you people. 1.6m is about 140k a month. 600k annual rent is about 55k a month. you are left with 100k a month after deductions. child school fees and the others is only per term, so let's say 50k a term, so that's 100k a year per child. you are left with 1.1m.

what else? utilities na nonsense you dey talk. who pays 100k a month for light? water is free. security? YOU BE king?
you see, you DOCTORS want to live like KINGS. THAT'S THE main problem. you have ENOUGH money. it's is only GREED that's behind this.




Which school fees be 50k per term?
Among people that donate in your church, how many of them are doctors?
Everyone wants to eat from the doctor.

As a doctor, go to the bar with your friends, all man go say doctor dn come, him go pay.

Things are difficult generally for everyone in Nigeria, so if any doctor or any other professional wants to leave the country, (s)he should leave.

No d blackmail person here.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by cool318(m): 9:37am On Aug 26, 2020
Yankee101:
You go were you are appreciated

I believe it's high time we begin to charge tuition on courses like Medicine or at the least have a minimum contribution you must make to your country before leaving

US doctors and lawyers have student loans of 200 to 500k USD after graduation

It will be good, but Governors like Wike will prefer to use the money to buy brand new SUV'S for already corrupt politicians and judges.
The vicious cycle continues

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by mmsen: 9:37am On Aug 26, 2020
Yankee101:
You go were you are appreciated

I believe it's high time we begin to charge tuition on courses like Medicine or at the least have a minimum contribution you must make to your country before leaving

US doctors and lawyers have student loans of 200 to 500k USD after graduation

They aren't "appreciated" there either.

Medical professionals the world over have been complaining about their treatment during the pandemic, lack of equipment and poor management.

It's just that the pay is better.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 9:37am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
people like you always think you know. do you know how much medical education is in the Western world?

you pay 50k dollars a year for the same medical education for 4 to 5 years. that's is around 20 million naira every year!
in Nigeria, you medical fees is not more than 3 million NAIRA a year in private institutions which are even expensive.


You pay higher for the higher quality of education. The cost of studying medicine in a private school is higher than that in public schools. Everything is related to the quality of education.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:38am On Aug 26, 2020
if the HOUSE they burn, will you RUN AWAY or look for WATER to fight the FIRE?

answer that!

Leopantro:


So true, you are right.

Poor, poor Nigerians doctors
Going to place in the front line fighting a pandemic where they will be paid on time, better infrastructure and electricity, better appreciation, better medical facilities where even the Nigerian president and family members attend.
They should have stayed back in Nigeria, where their minister said they will be better off being tailors.
Poor poor Nigerian doctors
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by UbongCR7(m): 9:38am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
he a baby ..he thinks the chicken change paid is the tution fees ....all degrees are subsidies by the Nigerian state...in all public institution.....if tution will be charged 95 of student currently enrolled in medicine will drop out ...it will cost around 5m annually ..afe babalola charges .4.8m per year...

Is tuition only subsidized for medical students in federal institutions?
What are you people even saying?

If they want to remove the subsidy, it would affect everyone, not just he medical students.

Nobody should be talking as if they are doing medical students some form of favour.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by chiol: 9:39am On Aug 26, 2020
GreenKalada:
People think this is a joke It's a very serious issue. My wife was among the 58 doctors who were refused travel last month, but she finally travelled 2 weeks ago to London by flight with some others provided by their employer. I'm now left with my 2 children hoping to join her soon. I feel bad for this country because what will now happen to the common man out there if all the qualified doctors leave!!

Government needs to sit-up. Our laws need to be reviewed urgently to meet the current realities. We cannot be subsidizing our education for other countries. If it must be subsidized, then you must work in the country for a certain number of years before you can migrate.

Alternatively, we remove the subsidy and use the money saved to improve on our standards - improving our educational standards, equipping our hospitals and taking care of the staff welfare. This is what most countries, even Ghana here does. Imagine Ghana taxing foreigners a million dollars to have a shop. This is just to preserve the businesses for their citizens.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by UbongCR7(m): 9:39am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
if the HOUSE they burn, will you RUN AWAY or look for WATER to fight the FIRE?

answer that!


Nigeria is sinking sir.
Few of us still want to stay though, but if things get very bad, people dn leave.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Nobody: 9:40am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
he a baby ..he thinks the chicken change paid is the tution fees ....all degrees are subsidies by the Nigerian state...in all public institution.....if tution will be charged 95 of student currently enrolled in medicine will drop out ...it will cost around 5m annually ..afe babalola charges .4.8m per year...

I concur with that.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:40am On Aug 26, 2020
topboss:



U ARE THE ONE THAT DID NOT COMPREHEND MY WRITE UP.



PEOPLE STUDY MEDICINE, ENGINEERING, LAW AND MOVE TO POLITICS BECOS THEY WANT TO STEAL.




THEY REALISE IN NIGERIA POLITICS PAY, SO THEY JOIN THE LOOTING TEAM.
how did u reach this assertions? Where is your data to prove that? How many doctor cum politician have been convicted.....to get your assertion right...
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 9:40am On Aug 26, 2020
IF NIGERIA GET RID OF POLITICIANS, WE WILL GO FAR.


WAT WE SHOULD HAVE INSTEAD OF POLITICAL PARTIES IS VARIOUS INDUSTRIES HAVING A GOVERNING BODY OF PROFESSIONAL.


I.E. NIGERIA MEDICAL BOARD, THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MEDICAL DEVELOPMENT, TRAINING AND DELIVERY.


SAME WITH EDUCATION, RETAIL, CONSTRUCTION, ETC


I AM TIRED OF DAFT, RETARDS AND HERDSMEN RUNNING DOWN THIS COUNTRY BECOS THEY ARE VIOLENT AND CHASE OUR PROFESSIONAL AWAY.



IF I HAVE MY WAY, NO MORE POLITICS.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Nobody: 9:42am On Aug 26, 2020
UbongCR7:


Is tuition only subsidized for medical students in federal institutions?
What are you people even saying?

If they want to remove the subsidy, it would affect everyone, not just he medical students.

Nobody should be talking as if they are doing medical students some form of favour.

Maybe you should first check the topic of this thread and then trace the beginning of this conversation so you can properly situate this comment you're quoting.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 9:42am On Aug 26, 2020
BUHARI IS A HERDSMAN, WAT DOES HE KNOW ABOUT HEALTH SECTOR, EDUCATION OR EVEN CONSTRUCTION.


A COMPLETE DAFT LIKE HIM IS PUT IN CHARGE OF ALL OUR PROFESSIONALS, HOW DO WE EXPECT THESE SECTORS TO LOOK?
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 9:42am On Aug 26, 2020
Yankee101:
You go were you are appreciated

I believe it's high time we begin to charge tuition on courses like Medicine or at the least have a minimum contribution you must make to your country before leaving

US doctors and lawyers have student loans of 200 to 500k USD after graduation

Others in Germany, Netherlands, Korea, to mention but a few, have no debt and they're rooted to their mother land.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by juniorstar(m): 9:43am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
i think Nigerians attending Subsidies highly needed trainings like medicine should start signing bond of working locally to 10 years or pay off the cost immediately or attended private university.........
I swear the present crop of leaders can wake up one morning and enact such law. omo it wud be crazy. boys wey dey write ielts and plab 1&2 to japa go just shock!!
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:43am On Aug 26, 2020
UbongCR7:


Is tuition only subsidized for medical students in federal institutions?
What are you people even saying?

If they want to remove the subsidy, it would affect everyone, not just he medical students.

Nobody should be talking as if they are doing medical students some form of favour.
they are doing greate favour.....it cost around 25m naira in subsidies to train a Nigeria doctor in public university through our paid tax ...while his uk counter borrrows money over 200 k pounds to be train which must be paid back.......is not the uk they are runing to ....if we must use tax money to train u ....u must serve us or attend private university..

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Uncleodi(m): 9:43am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
this is HOW we catch you people. 1.6m is about 140k a month. 600k annual rent is about 55k a month. you are left with 100k a month after deductions. child school fees and the others is only per term, so let's say 50k a term, so that's 100k a year per child. you are left with 1.1m.

what else? utilities na nonsense you dey talk. who pays 100k a month for light? water is free. security? YOU BE king?
you see, you DOCTORS want to live like KINGS. THAT'S THE main problem. you have ENOUGH money. it's is only GREED that's behind this.




You are pained because you are not a Doctor.
Go and buy jamb form and study Medicine and tell me how you will survive with 140k per month.

You want to remain a tenant for life abi? You won't buy car or buy land to build your personal house.

A nice camry will cost like 3million naira and you have to save for 3 years to buy it when Doctors abroad that have the same brain like you can afford that within 3 months.

No Doctor is greedy, it is the society that puts alot of pressure on us.. #Rethink

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:44am On Aug 26, 2020
this is WHY non of our MEDICAL SCIENTISTS AND SPECIALISTS are working on a corona cure!
non are working on research.
the HOUSE is burning, and they are running away, instead of looking for WATER.
SO WHY did the government train them?


UbongCR7:


Nigeria is sinking sir.
Few of us still want to stay though, but if things get very bad, people dn leave.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:45am On Aug 26, 2020
juniorstar:

I swear the present crop of leaders can wake up one morning and enact such law. omo it wud be crazy. boys wey dey write ielts and plab 1&2 to japa go just shock!!
i will sponsor a bill.....kano state govt in the 70 use to do it.....they give u scholarship to ussr to study medicine and he work 7 years in Ministry of health then u can go to space if u like ...

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Onlinebar: 9:45am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
stop lying!
all those CHINESE doctors that TREAT corona why in china cities. very few were in US or UK.

do the internet search on salaries. chinese doctors complain of low pay but they are not GREEDY.
THE most greediest people are always on the LOWEST rug in the world. they are too greedy. and that's BLACK. that's why pastor OYAKHILOME was saying BLACK is bad.



Dude what's your problem with doctors wanting a better life??

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 9:45am On Aug 26, 2020
heykims:
Nigerian leaders are daft, u train doctors almost for free and u lose them to other nations that run medical schools very expensively.
The govt should find a way to tie down the doctors by improving their welfare.
Medical schools in Nigeria are almost for free but in the advanced countries, it is a multimillion naira project that graduate doctors have to spend years paying off student loans after graduation.

Stop using America as a generalization for the rest of the world!

There are many 'advanced' countries where medical degrees are close to free of charge

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:45am On Aug 26, 2020
then this is PERSONALITY problem. the DOCTOR does not know how to say NO to people.
I assume the DOCTOR send his or her children to private schools. The fees should not be more than 50k per term. Or is it 1 million for you??

UbongCR7:


Which school fees be 50k per term?
Among people that donate in your church, how many of them are doctors?
Everyone wants to eat from the doctor.

As a doctor, go to the bar with your friends, all man go say doctor dn come, him go pay.

Things are difficult generally for everyone in Nigeria, so if any doctor or any other professional wants to leave the country, (s)he should leave.

No d blackmail person here.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Tunde835(m): 9:47am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
i think Nigerians attending Subsidies highly needed trainings like medicine should start signing bond of working locally to 10 years or pay off the cost immediately or attended private university.........
4 wat ,y dont dey leave dem alone is it by force to stay here
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:47am On Aug 26, 2020
if it is higher in private school, is it not cheaper in public ones?
But DOCTORS from public schools work with those from private ones. What is the difference? They take the same MEDICAL licensure exams. Only the prepared one passes the exam regardless of quality of education!

PerfectlyPerfect:

You pay higher for the higher quality of education. The cost of studying medicine in a private school is higher than that in public schools. Everything is related to the quality of education.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 9:48am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
then this is PERSONALITY problem. the DOCTOR does not know how to say NO to people.
I assume the DOCTOR send his or her children to private schools. The fees should not be more than 50k per term. Or is it 1 million for you??



THE ONLY THING THAT CAN STOP DOCTORS LEAVING NIGERIA IS BETTER HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE, BETTER HOUSING, VARIOUS INCENTIVES AND BETTER MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE, WITH THEM IN CHARGE OF THEIR BUDGET AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE.



WE ARE WASTING MONEY ON NASS MEMBERS. DO WE REALLY NEED TWO CHAMBERS?



DEM JUST PACK FULL HOUSE THEY COLLECT MORE MONEY AND LOOT, WHILST NIGERIA GOES DOWN.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by hustla(m): 9:48am On Aug 26, 2020
EVILFOREST:

Chaiiiiiiiii
I can understand.
I embraced mine wholeheartedly when it came because I already knew that NIGERIA was far from getting better.

No COUNTRY gets better with the crop of individuals and ideology we have in Nigeria.
Today, people claim ownership of NATIONAL THIEVES in Nigeria.
You hear things like "Leave him for he is our THIEF", Go after yours and leave ours grin grin grin grin.

That NIGERIA is what it is today, is by the making of NIGERIANS residing in it.
Any day we wake up and decide to FIX it, it will automatically become investors HAVEN.
We have one of the BEST WEATHERS and DISASTER Free environment in the world but the HUMANS therein amaze GOD.
Many NIGERIANS are like WONDERS of the WORLD. READY to DUPE at any slightest opportunity.


200% Facts
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:50am On Aug 26, 2020
Uncleodi:


You are pained because you are not a Doctor.
Go and buy jamb form and study Medicine and tell me how you will survive with 140k per month.

You want to remain a tenant for life abi? You won't buy car or by land to build your personal house.

A nice camry will cost like 3million naira and you have to save for 3 years to buy it when Doctors abroad that have the same brain like you can afford that within 3 months.

No Doctor is greedy, it is the society that puts alot of pressure on us.. #Rethink
we are not against doctor been rich or poor ....doctors can come together and set up private practices and charge their millions and buy private jets......but doctor trained by our collective tax contributions must not run to the uk is like duping tax payers .....acess bank trains graduate on a 2 m naira bond or 2 years .....so public doctor must sign bonds to be admitted to public school run by public tax......
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 9:50am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
i think Nigerians attending Subsidies highly needed trainings like medicine should start signing bond of working locally to 10 years or pay off the cost immediately or attended private university.........

Sign a bond for?

The entire state-owned University system is subsidized, not just medical degrees. And this is standard practice around the world in many developed (and developing) countries. Nigeria won't be the first to start issuing bonds.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Nobody: 9:51am On Aug 26, 2020
No be only doctors dey leave. Nurses leave more than doctors and it doesn't make news. U people shout too much

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:51am On Aug 26, 2020
Tunde835:
4 wat ,y dont dey leave dem alone is it by force to stay here
it not by force to be attend public schools run via our tax.....

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