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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by boom99(m): 9:52am On Aug 26, 2020
OP if na you, you no go exodus
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:52am On Aug 26, 2020
to CATCH a liar, let him keep talking until he makes a big mistake.

so this is just GREED for money. That's how they catch you GREEDY doctors!
now the GOVERNMENT must disavow those doctors that emigrate and REVOKE their nigeran citizens.

Onlinebar:
Dude what's your problem with doctors wanting a better life??

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Chinny024(f): 9:52am On Aug 26, 2020
One of my leg is already there......

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:53am On Aug 26, 2020
OUR politician say the same thing and they are still LOOTING!

Uncleodi:


You are pained because you are not a Doctor.
Go and buy jamb form and study Medicine and tell me how you will survive with 140k per month.

You want to remain a tenant for life abi? You won't buy car or by land to build your personal house.

A nice camry will cost like 3million naira and you have to save for 3 years to buy it when Doctors abroad that have the same brain like you can afford that within 3 months.

No Doctor is greedy, it is the society that puts alot of pressure on us.. #Rethink
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by sameks08(m): 9:53am On Aug 26, 2020
every body hate this shit hole country AKA zoo
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 9:53am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
most of them dont do calculation they think 25m naira (50 pounds) will give same type of lifestyle and chilling in uk......u might move from a duplex in Nigeria to a condon in uk and still pay 1200 pounds per months....u cant even have a nanny ,cook, house girl,maiguard driver any more ......u will wash ,iron ,cook your meals your self .....all those 15000 house girls in NIgeeria no dey u will pay 700 pounds for day care from that salary ....


50k pounds is an awesome salary to start with in the UK.

While the cost of living is deffo costlier than in Nigeria, the quality of life is also light years ahead of what's obtainable here.

For starters, you get uninterrupted access to state of the art social amenities. Then there's security of life and properties.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by cray91(m): 9:53am On Aug 26, 2020
Lets clear off our leaders first and you begin to see changes!!

people resort to bad and dubious act when they have no income or source of livelihood. as rich as naija is normally everyone should be entitled to a salary even if not working and that alone will be enough but in a case where one pot bellies group of men that knows nothing about leadership but only to siphon treasuries and sit on money millions of people are suppose to benefit from is a big and very big problem
OVB123:
No! don't you think that nigerians (citizens) are also involved?
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Nobody: 9:53am On Aug 26, 2020
I knw a medical doctor at Aminu Kano teaching hospital who had only one house in Kano that cost around N5m for all his abt 20yrs in service bt as soon as he relocated to Soudi Arabia he came bck and bought N15m house in 6 months, only six months. Their children's education is free there, they're given free health insurance. Paid in millions.
Nigeria is among nations with worst salary scale in the world.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 9:54am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
to CATCH a liar, let him keep talking until he makes a big mistake.

so this is just GREED for money. That's how they catch you GREEDY doctors!
now the GOVERNMENT must disavow those doctors that emigrate and REVOKE their nigeran citizens.



DEY GET BRITISH CITIZENSHIP.

U ARE NOT GETTING IT RIGHT.

NIGERIA LOSS IS BRITISH GAIN.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:54am On Aug 26, 2020
kowalsky:


Sign a bond for?

The entire state-owned University system is subsidized, not just medical degrees. And this is standard practice around the world in many developed (and developing) countries. Nigeria won't be the first to start issuing bonds.
we need to start been serious....we can training gradutes for local and export use.....doctor for local use while physical sciences for export to fill.in man power need in other countries....
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by pmoye(m): 9:55am On Aug 26, 2020
If anyone wants to leave, let them leave.

Expand the primary care to include more allied healthcare professionals and ad hoc staff. Introduce certification courses (1-3 years) that individuals with natural and life science university/polytechnic education such as microbiology, zoology, botany, biochemistry, science laboratory technology etc can undertake to make them function in certain basic areas of health... Most of the health burden in the country concerns basic complaints and illnesses like malaria, minor skin infections, candidiasis and the likes... Nigeria should leverage on graduates with degrees in life sciences, train them to attend to these basic areas of care.. These specially certified individuals will not practice alone but will be affiliated with specially accredited pharmacies, nursing homes, medical laboratories etc that will function as special primary health care units... And as a rule disallow these basic conditions from being handled at the tertiary health facilities who will only attend to emergencies and referrals.

We have special situations in Nigeria and we should stop copying the rich countries in the way we do things. The fact is, Nigeria cannot afford to pay any one (doctors, etc) what they are worth. We all claim that we are rich as a country, I hate to burst your bubbles by telling you that even as a country we are miserably poor. Check our GDP/revenues, and compare the figures with what some mega corporations like Apple (not even countries now) make. We are phucking poor, and that's for a fact. And the only way to get out of that is for the Nigerian economy to become well-suited and conducive for private businesses. Paying professionals millions will not solve our problem, it will simply deepen the cycle of nonsense.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Leopantro: 9:55am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
if the HOUSE they burn, will you RUN AWAY or look for WATER to fight the FIRE?

answer that!


At a certain point, you throw in the towel and start afresh.
Even the president, by his actions ,has given up on the efficiency of the health sector.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:55am On Aug 26, 2020
which advanced country has free medical education?
Germany? you must still pay some funds.

kowalsky:


Stop using America as a generalization for the rest of the world!

There are many 'advanced' countries where medical degrees are close to free of charge
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 9:55am On Aug 26, 2020
I SUSPECT MORE NIGERIANS WILL GO AND STUDY MEDICINE, AND LEAVE THIS COUNTRY IN THE NEXT 6 YEARS.


NIGERIA WILL PAY DOLLARS TO IMPORT FOREIGN DOCTORS OR USE STUDENT DOCTORS TO TREAT EVERYBODY.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 9:56am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
they are GOING because of GREED. all AFRICAN countries face this PROBLEM. they pay our DOCTORS around 200 thousand a MONTH, and that's not enough for them? GREED. Ghana knows the problem, so THEY MAKE IT difficult for their DOCTORS to run away!
it's because we subsidise education, and make it cheap to STUDY medicine very CHEAP! it's expensive to study medicine in the Western country. You have to get LOANS to study so you are locked until you pay the debt.


Going because they want better lives.

Can't spend north of six years toiling in one harsh med school and come out to $400 as starter salary. That's not enough to buy a note 9 fyi




Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 9:57am On Aug 26, 2020
kowalsky:



50k pounds is an awesome salary to start with in the UK.

While the cost of living is deffo costlier than in Nigeria, the quality of life is also light years ahead of what's obtainable here.

For starters, you get uninterrupted access to state of the art social amenities. Then there's security of life and properties.

but 40000 uk resident and 200k of us have died of corona virus while Nigeria is around a 1000k ......dont come back and be shouting black live matter .....i can see how secured america is with black people ...
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by AmuDimpka: 9:57am On Aug 26, 2020
I don't blame them
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:57am On Aug 26, 2020
what does this have to do with POLITICS?
POLITICS and science do not MIX.

even if you GIVE the greediest DOG the best meat, it will never be ENOUGH.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND that?

topboss:



THE ONLY THING THAT CAN STOP DOCTORS LEAVING NIGERIA IS BETTER HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE, BETTER HOUSING, VARIOUS INCENTIVES AND BETTER MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE, WITH THEM IN CHARGE OF THEIR BUDGET AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE.



WE ARE WASTING MONEY ON NASS MEMBERS. DO WE REALLY NEED TWO CHAMBERS?



DEM JUST PACK FULL HOUSE THEY COLLECT MORE MONEY AND LOOT, WHILST NIGERIA GOES DOWN.

Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 9:58am On Aug 26, 2020
like the way those NPOWER applicants collect money and no show up!


ahiboilandgas:
we are not against doctor been rich or poor ....doctors can come together and set up private practices and charge their millions and buy private jets......but doctor trained by our collective tax contributions must not run to the uk is like duping tax payers .....acess bank trains graduate on a 2 m naira bond or 2 years .....so public doctor must sign bonds to be admitted to public school run by public tax......
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 9:59am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
what does this have to do with POLITICS?
POLITICS and science do not MIX.

even if you GIVE the greediest DOG the best meat, it will never be ENOUGH.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND that?



I DON TALK MY OWN.


SOME OF THE HOSPITALS THESE DOCTORS HAVE TO WORK IN ARE DESPICABLE.


EVEN OUR HEALTH MINISTER VISITED AND SHOUTED THAT HE HAD NO IDEA IT WAS THIS BAD.


THAT IS BECOS THEY ALL GO ABROAD.


POLITICIANS ARE THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY.

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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by heykims(m): 10:00am On Aug 26, 2020
kowalsky:


Stop using America as a generalization for the rest of the world!

There are many 'advanced' countries where medical degrees are close to free of charge
Give examples please
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 10:00am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
which advanced country has free medical education?
Germany? you must still pay some funds.


Finland. Norway. Sweden
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 10:00am On Aug 26, 2020
topboss:
I SUSPECT MORE NIGERIANS WILL GO AND STUDY MEDICINE, AND LEAVE THIS COUNTRY IN THE NEXT 6 YEARS.


NIGERIA WILL PAY DOLLARS TO IMPORT FOREIGN DOCTORS OR USE STUDENT DOCTORS TO TREAT EVERYBODY.
some other Nigerian will move back to Nigeria to set up world class hospital and smile to the bank ...reggition hospital....etc ......it 2 way on the maslow law of needs u are still in basic level ....
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 10:01am On Aug 26, 2020
hhahahahaahahhahahahahahhahahahah.

then the house BURNS and you LOSE EVERYTHING.


Leopantro:


At a certain point, you throw in the towel and start afresh
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 10:01am On Aug 26, 2020
heykims:

Give examples please

Finland
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by ahiboilandgas: 10:02am On Aug 26, 2020
kowalsky:


Finland. Norway. Sweden
what their tax contributions to the country in ration to income?
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 10:02am On Aug 26, 2020
Oh, that I know.

They we should start CASTRATING these greedy DOCTORS than run away when they are needed the most!


topboss:



DEY GET BRITISH CITIZENSHIP.

U ARE NOT GETTING IT RIGHT.

NIGERIA LOSS IS BRITISH GAIN.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by Leopantro: 10:02am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
hhahahahaahahhahahahahahhahahahah.

then the house BURNS and you LOSE EVERYTHING.



Exactly why the doctors and nurses and everyone else is leaving.
Isn't it funny?
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 10:03am On Aug 26, 2020
ahiboilandgas:
some other Nigerian will move back to Nigeria to set up world class hospital and smile to the bank ...reggition hospital....etc ......it 2 way on the maslow law of needs u are still in basic level ....


IN OTHERWORDS, NIGERIANS SHOULD FIND THEIR WAY, AND IF POSSIBLE PROVIDE THEIR OWN HEALTH CARE, WHILST POLITICIANS CONTINUE TO LOOT.
Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by frog12: 10:03am On Aug 26, 2020
and how much are these DOCTORS worth?


pmoye:
If anyone wants to leave, let them leave.

Expand the primary care to include more allied healthcare professionals and ad hoc staff. Introduce certification courses (1-3 years) that individuals with natural and life science university/polytechnic education such as microbiology, zoology, botany, biochemistry, science laboratory technology etc can undertake to make them function in certain basic areas of health... Most of the health burden in the country concerns basic complaints and illnesses like malaria, minor skin infections, candidiasis and the likes... Nigeria should leverage on graduates with degrees in life sciences, train them to attend to these basic areas of care.. These specially certified individuals will not practice alone but will be affiliated with specially accredited pharmacies, nursing homes, medical laboratories etc that will function as special primary health care units... And as a rule disallow these basic conditions from being handled at the tertiary health facilities who will only attend to emergencies and referrals.

We have special situations in Nigeria and we should stop copying the rich countries in the way we do things. The fact is, Nigeria cannot afford to pay any one (doctors, etc) what they are worth. We all claim that we are rich as a country, I hate to burst your bubbles by telling you that even as a country we are miserably poor. Check our GDP/revenues, and compare the figures with what some mega corporations like Apple (not even countries now) make. We are phucking poor, and that's for a fact. And the only way to get out of that is for the Nigerian economy to become well-suited and conducive for private businesses. Paying professionals millions will not solve our problem, it will simply deepen the cycle of nonsense.

Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by topboss: 10:04am On Aug 26, 2020
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Re: Doctors’ Exodus Looms As International Flights Resume This Week by kowalsky: 10:05am On Aug 26, 2020
frog12:
you sound like a DOCTOR.
GREED. so you dey say 200k salary a month is not enough?
tell us more.



How the hell is 200k with he current inflation rate of this country enough?

200k is just about $450.

That money cannot even buy a top of the line smartphone.

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