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Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 6:19pm On May 12, 2011
If in Chelseas worst season they are still ahead of Arsenal in their best season (According to duduface)
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by duduspace(m): 8:08pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

He is busy concocting other predictions.

We are waiting for the next set to come out of his smeagol faced mouth

Even I didn't foresee a debt ridden Dortmund that hasn't won anything since 2001 overtaking your big for nothing club. tongue
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dipo2much(m): 8:15pm On May 12, 2011
uncle dayo, you should put ur head in my toilet seat. You talk that much sht.
You say RvP played 7 WC games and scored just one, so he isn't fit to be world class. Ok, how many goals did torres score in the last world cup? But torres is world class, right?
Compare torres' starts to goals for this season and tell me if RVP has EVER done that bad. Or is torres not world class anymore?
Dayo, you are a mobile toilet. So full of sht.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by coogar: 8:17pm On May 12, 2011
duduspace:

Even I didn't foresee a debt ridden Dortmund that hasn't won anything since 2001 overtaking your big for nothing club. tongue

hollow point. what have arsenal won in 6 years? this is the 7 years since arsenal last won the league title and they are not debt-ridden. what is the excuse? pathetic manager, useless players, lethargic fans.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 8:32pm On May 12, 2011
dipo2much:

uncle dayo, you should put your head in my toilet seat. You talk that much sht.
You say RvP played 7 WC games and scored just one, so he isn't fit to be world class. Ok, how many goals did torres score in the last world cup? But torres is world class, right?
Compare torres' starts to goals for this season and tell me if RVP has EVER done that bad. Or is torres not world class anymore?
Dayo, you are a mobile toilet. So full of sht.

How was your "Face of autism contest"? Surely you wld win hands down.

I didnt know you are also blind.

Did Torres START 7 games at the world cup? If you cant think beg someone to do it for you
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by coogar: 8:35pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

Did Torres START 7 games at the world cup? If you cant think beg someone to do it for you

torres scored 33 goals in his debut season in the premier league. abeg, what's van persie's highest goal haul in his career? grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 8:41pm On May 12, 2011
How can ppl mention Van persie when talking about Good strikers.

Even Adebayor is wayy better
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by coogar: 8:47pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

How can ppl mention Van persie when talking about Good strikers.

Even Adebayor is wayy better

of course. . . .adebayor(24 league goals), 30 in all competitions in the same team van persie has been failing to score more than 20 goals. robin van persie is a fraud! the worst dutch striker in the history of the game.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 8:51pm On May 12, 2011
How can van persie call himself a Dutch striker a starter and he is worse than a bloody Togolese.

Imagine wearing the same shirts Van Basten, Nistelrooy, Makaay, Kluivert Hasselbaink wore,

The guy must be naturalised from Krygykstan
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 8:58pm On May 12, 2011
To play Champions league for 50yrs and never win

To be a professional club and be trophyless for 7 yrs What a shame
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dipo2much(m): 9:24pm On May 12, 2011
Jobless vagrants. I'm sure arsenal thread is dayo's homepage.
Torres scored 33 goals. Awesome. What happened to him in the world cup? Or has he detachable limbs?
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 9:35pm On May 12, 2011
Get this into your empty skull

Torres didnt start 7 games at the World cup, Villa started
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by HNIC(m): 9:49pm On May 12, 2011
Look at these idyots.
Now Adepaymemore is berra than RVP. . .
Watch out when RVP leaves Arsenal, it's then he becomes a good striker.
We are talking of RVP with Arsenal, nitwits are talking about his performance with the National Team in South Africa.
If we were to use displays in SA to judge players, some player's career should be over by now.
@DK
I was talking about DB10's performance in an Arsenal jersey not with his NT(he wasn't that prolific at Arsenal).

Whatever. . .RVP has scored more than a dozen goals,whether 90% were pens or free kicks(like it's so easy to score) all na goal.
End of. . . .
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by HNIC(m): 9:58pm On May 12, 2011
@Presido
Blown wide open. . . .
Lemme explain.
If manure had beaten Arsenal,they would have been 6 points ahead of the Chavs,meaning the match at OT wont have been a do or die one and Chelsea wouldn't have had any chance of overtaking them.
It also put arsenal back mathematically in the race because they closed the gap to 6 points. . . .
Now, it was only when Arsenal lost to Stoke, that it became mathematically impossible for Arsenal to win the league.
So, can you see that the loss by manure actually 'blew' the league wide open as at may 1,2011??
i wrote that stuff on may 1, 2011 which was true,it wasn't written a week later.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 9:58pm On May 12, 2011
HNIC:

Look at these idyots.
Now Adepaymemore is berra than RVP. . .
Watch out when RVP leaves Arsenal, it's then he becomes a good striker.

When they were both in Asaanl Adebayor was miles better than van rapi5t

We are talking of RVP with Arsenal, nitwits are talking about his performance with the National Team in South Africa.
If we were to use displays in SA to judge players, some player's career should be over by now.

Maybe you should talk to the nitwit Assanal fan on this forum who claimed Persie is World class because he played a WC final. I know you are reetarded but dope2much actually floors you in that aspect, he is insane to say the least

@DK
I was talking about DB10's performance in an Arsenal jersey not with his NT(he wasn't that prolific at Arsenal).

Did you consider that DB 10 was never top striker for Arsenal at any point in time? He always played behind a main striker be it Wright, Anelka, Suker, Henry etc
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by HNIC(m): 10:02pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

Did you consider that DB 10 was never top striker for Arsenal at any point in time? He always played behind a main striker be it Wright, Anelka, Suker, Henry etc
Heheheheheh grin
So RVP has always been top striker for Arsenal abi?
Abeg,Gooners, educate this Nazi man
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by HNIC(m): 10:04pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

When they were both in Asaanl Adebayor was miles better than van rapi5t
Even with RVp's injury record, he's still worth more in the transfer market than Seyi
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 10:08pm On May 12, 2011
Since Adebayor left, who has been your top striker?

Even with RVp's injury record, he's still worth more in the transfer market than Seyi

Worth more in which transfer market? Adebayor was bought for 25m GBP thats about $40m . Tell me any club who has made such bid for Van rap15t before or even half of that
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by HNIC(m): 10:20pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

Since Adebayor left, who has been your top striker?
and when did Adebayor leave arsenal FC.
Ade was sold in the summer of 2009 which effectively means RVP has only played as Arsenal's top striker for just 2 seasons(most of it injury plagued)Arsenal switched from 4-4-2 to a 4-3-3 when Ade left.
Yet you and the scummie fraternity have compared him with all sorts of out and out strikers, including Darren Bent. shocked shocked
One also brought out stats of 2005 when he was a bit part player,when we had henry,reyes and DB10.
In retrospect, you guys look like you had snow in your brain when you were posting gibberish earlier!
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by HNIC(m): 10:22pm On May 12, 2011
dayokanu:

Since Adebayor left, who has been your top striker?

Worth more in which transfer market? Adebayor was bought for 25m GBP thats about $40m . Tell me any club who has made such bid for Van rap15t before or even half of that
Ade was flogged to Man city and ask Mancini what he feels now about the deal, he will tell u.Hughes just wanted to make a statement then.
Let RVP indicate he wants to leave and see how much(even with the injury record)the bids would start from.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dipo2much(m): 2:14am On May 13, 2011
dayokanu:

Since Adebayor left, who has been your top striker?

Worth more in which transfer market? Adebayor was bought for 25m GBP thats about $40m . Tell me any club who has made such bid for Van rap15t before or even half of that

We all know that when City spends X naira on a player, the player is probably worth X/2 naira. A club that signs Lescott, Milner and Adebayor for £25M each is just showing off their financial strenght. Given that, Adebayo was probably worth £15M and when the money miss roads gave Wenger a blind check, he knew what to do. Only fulls in class of Dayokanu believe Adebayo was worth £25 that City paid.
On the other hand, Juventus, had a interest in world class RvP just last December and see how much was talked about for his services.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/serie-a/2010/12/30/2283984/juventus-ponder-23m-bid-for-arsenal-striker-robin-van-persie

And he hadn't net 20 goals in a season at that time. If he was evuluated at £23M by a club like Juve back in Dec when he was injured, Dayo how much do you think he is worth now?

Now I have told you a club that 'made such a bid for Van Persie'. Admit he is world class and stop making mockery of all the tutions fees paid for ur study.

dayokanu:


Maybe you should talk to the nitwit Assanal fan on this forum who claimed Persie is World class because he played a WC final.


You give other m0r0ns like sharon and starbored someone to feel better than. You level in dumbness requires research as your IQ level will bewilder even the sharpest minds.
When I mentioned RvP playing in the world cup final, i was giving more reason why he should be considered world class by any sane mind. We had already highlighted the fact that RvP had reached the 'impossible' 20 goal target in only four months. Only a dayokanu will require this much explanation and still miss the point. I feel for you, dayo.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by 4llerbuntu(m): 2:54am On May 13, 2011
yawn!!!

this is what we have to endure till august? lawd have mercy
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by ritchboy(m): 7:35am On May 13, 2011
RVP has led Arsenal's attack for just two seasons and his goal-ratio in that period is probably the best in the league. His assist-ratio is also up there with the very best in the league.

#idiotswillbeidiots

of course. . . .adebayor(24 league goals), 30 in all competitions in the same team van persie has been failing to score more than 20 goals

Cougar just out of rehab and perilously close to OD'ing again. cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by olodo(m): 10:14am On May 13, 2011
4llerbuntu:

yawn!!!

this is what we have to endure till august? lawd have mercy
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by duduspace(m): 3:58pm On May 13, 2011
4llerbuntu:

yawn!!!

this is what we have to endure till august? lawd have mercy

For the most part, here is more on Kroenke and the takeover bid. The portion in bold are very positive for the future of the fanshare scheme, from all I see it doesn't seem as if even Kroenke wants to become sole owner and any increase in equity will be exclusively for the fanshare scheme thereby diluting his own influence and Usmanov's over time.


AST writes to all shareholders explaining why it is keeping its shares Posted on: 13/05/11

9 May 2011

Dear Shareholder

We are writing to you as an Arsenal shareholder and custodian with regard to the formal takeover offer document (“Offer”) issued by Kroenke Sports Enterprises (“KSE”) for Arsenal Holdings PLC (Arsenal) on 6 May 2011 and recently sent to all shareholders in the post. Please accept our apologies for contacting you like this if you are no longer a shareholder in Arsenal.

The Arsenal Supporters’ Trust (AST) represents almost 1,000 shareholders and supporters who have become members of the AST because they care about the future of our club and wish to play a constructive role in its governance. We also recently established Arsenal Fanshare to give more supporters influence and representation in Arsenal’s ownership structure through mutually owned shares. To date more than 1800 supporters have joined the scheme and invested more than £650,000 in Arsenal shares. You can read more about the scheme at www.arsenalfanshare.com

Our reason for writing is to explain why the AST and Arsenal Fanshare will not be selling our shares to Stan Kroenke, and to set out some reasons and reassurances that we hope will encourage you to take the same course of action. This position is not an anti-Kroenke statement but is a pro-Arsenal statement; we have high regard for Mr Kroenke.

The AST believes that Arsenal is stronger when supporters are represented in its ownership structure. This arrangement means we can ask questions at an AGM and scrutinise the official report and accounts, something the AST has gained a reputation for doing with clarity and expertise. We also think that having supporters involved in the ownership helps to give the club a real sense of ‘belonging’ and acts as a check and reminder to those that run the club that it’s most important asset is its supporters.

The AST has established a role as a watchdog of the club and there are numerous examples of where we have both influenced policy and also ensured that the views of fans are listened to. Later this month Ivan Gazidis will hold his main supporter end of season review and Q&A with AST members.

The Offer itself is of course a legal requirement that Stan Kroenke has to follow as a result of buying Danny Fiszman’s and/or Lady Bracewell-Smith’s shares in Arsenal as he breached the 30% level that is a precursor to a mandatory bid.

The AST is encouraged that Stan Kroenke has responded to our questions since the issue of the initial takeover announcement by adding wording to the Offer on the important role fans have at the heart of the club and committing personally to engage with supporters for the long-term good of the club.
The meetings with supporters that Kroenke refers to in this statement (section 5, page 7) are with the AST which makes them an important pointer to future policy direction. In these meetings he has spoken of his regard for the role of small shareholders and personally backed Arsenal Fanshare. [b]As a Board member he voted for the establishment of a three year partnership agreement between the club and Arsenal Fanshare (2010 to 2013) and was receptive to the idea of making new equity available exclusively to the scheme. [/b]Kroenke also says that he does not plan to delist Arsenal from the PLUS Markets.

Further, Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis has frequently stated his commitment to having supporters involved in the ownership of Arsenal and recently spoke of the importance of the Fanshare scheme to Members of Parliament investigating football’s governance.
The AST takes these words from Stan Kroenke and Ivan Gazidis in good faith, in line with our previous dealings, and look forward to working with him to keep Arsenal supporters involved in the club’s ownership structure and contributing to the club’s success.

The AST has also held discussions with Red and White Holdings which owns 27% of the shares in issue, which has stressed its intention to maintain its shareholding (and it continues to buy shares) and this, together with the statements in the Offer document that KSE do not intend to delist the shares, leads us to believe there will continue to be a market in Arsenal shares following the closing of the Offer.


All of these factors mean it is likely that up to 35% of shares in Arsenal Holdings PLC will remain outside the ownership of Stan Kroenke with up to 10% in the hands of small shareholders. This should guarantee the on-going listing of Arsenal on the PLUS markets for the forseeable future.


Accordingly Arsenal Fanshare will continue and will also help to create a market in Arsenal shares. Shareholders who wish to sell their shares in the future will have the option to sell them to other supporters subscribing to the scheme. Just this month Arsenal Fanshare placed orders for more than £50,000 worth of shares and many of the shares it buys each month come from shareholders who wish to sell only to other supporters (if you are thinking of selling in the future then please think of the Fanshare scheme).

As Arsenal shareholders we are all custodians of the club and its future. The AST believes passionately in such custodianship and urges shareholders to remain as custodians and retain their Arsenal shares for future generations of Arsenal fans.

We hope that you have found the information in this letter helpful and that you will choose to remain a custodian in Arsenal’s future. Please do contact us on info@arsenaltrust.org or through our website www.arsenaltrust.org if you require any further information. If you are not a member already then do please join us and help us to be the most effective voice of supporters at any club in the Premier League.

Finally, we must stress that this letter does not constitute any form of financial advice or recommendation and we cannot guarantee any future arrangements or prices for Arsenal shares. If you are in any doubt as to what course of action to take then we would urge you to consult a solicitor, accountant or other independent financial adviser duly authorised under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000.

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter.
Yours sincerely

Arsenal Supporters’ Trust
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by biolabee(m): 6:52pm On May 13, 2011
very encoraging, dudu but we dont know SK's plan


any news abt AW's targets and clear outs?
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by proudly9ja(m): 9:04pm On May 13, 2011
Nawao, two whole pages to discuss whether RVP is world class or not? Una no get una own fan page ni?
angry angry angry angry

Abeg, back to Arsenal matters, does anyone know if Eto can be available for less than 20 million? grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by dayokanu(m): 9:06pm On May 13, 2011
Yeah you can get Etoo for 3million
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by duduspace(m): 9:21pm On May 13, 2011
biolabee:

any news abt AW's targets and clear outs?

orisirisi news dey ranging from the revolutionary like selling Clichy, moving Vermaelen to LB with Gibbs as backup and then getting Cahill/Sakho in to make 3 CBs with Bartely as understudy with Vermaelen able to fill in as a CB when necessary, but Arsene aint saying nuthin as usual, na siddon look for transfer window.

With the statements both Arsene and Bendtner have made so far though, its likely B52 will be heading out this window, I know many won't miss him but I will as he seems to have matured a lot this season and his stats aren't really bad based on his appearances.

Almunia is also going as he is out of contract and it would be madness of some sort to renew his contract with both Poles already overtaking him, I expect both Rosicky and Arshavin to follow him and I'm still dreaming that Arda Turan will somehow end up at the emirates next season with Cesc staying.
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by hannie: 12:22am On May 14, 2011
nawao . . .

I remember how much I wanted Bendtner to leave THEN . . .but with the turn of events, having seen how dud-ly Chamakh has proven himself to be, I wonder why we have to waste that space he is taking up, cheap things almost NEVER give true value grin

Chiacarito and Suarez didnt need eternity to perform and make their families proud, neither did they have the kind of hype that Chamakh was surrounded with, footie these days dont get u endowed u with enuff time for adaptation . . .or why have people become restless that Wenger hasnt won any in half a dozen years? undecided
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by hannie: 12:32am On May 14, 2011
I dont care what anyone says . . .I have always known that we needed to get better in striking positions considering how frail we have always been at the back, since we love going the offensive most times UTILIZING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES was always going to be the greatest challenge else we get/got punished . . .now when u get duds like Chamakh upfront and have Arshavin that is always inconsistent, or even a RVP that could be very annoying atimes, not forgetting Bendtner that buys too much into his own hype . .NOT FORGETTING THAT JAY EMMANUEL THOMAS WAS ERRONEOUSLY SENT ON LOAN . . .then its little wonder why didnt win the EPL cool
Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only (A New Strength, A New Hope). by 4llerbuntu(m): 5:16am On May 14, 2011
i think they should just allow that JET fella to come sit on the bench, get league cup games and cameos in the league. pretty sure we will have an idea if he is a man of straw or good by the end of the season.


as for transfers

ARSENE TO HAVE NO SHAME?
Ahh, Arsenal and their incredible ambition. Their fans are demanding big-money signings, their own players probably expect the same, so what's Arsene gonna do? Err, stick to parody:

'Arsene Wenger is plotting a double raid on French club Lorient to launch his summer rebuilding plans. Arsenal have made an offer to midfielder Morgan Amalfitano - a free agent - and also fancies p[b]romising French international striker Kevin Gameiro, 23.'[/b]

Yup, that ought to do it.


soon they will come and start writing epistles here of how lack of funds is the cause of incompetent managing. see what ur fool is going for when there is need

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