tillaman:
This can’t be real, so the church is truly a business enterprise

NA TODAY YANSH BEGIN DEY FOR BACK?

tunnex190:


Name of the church please? I would like to book seat

its house on the rock.
U will book for seat due to how strict they are on covid19 protocols and doesn't want crowd, booking is totally free

Abeg no make me sin this Sunday. I tried not to laugh but failed. Apply more caution when using that name please. That pic and the statement attached is damn funny. Do not use that name lightly.

Karlovych:
Yahweh right now

jesusjnr2020:
Lol!

I don't blame you.

You should know I was speaking about my past when I wasn't even saved.

Now it's all about God.

You should see that now i place the Words of Jesus above the words of every other man including those in the Bible.

God bless.

Who do you blame since you don't blame me !!
Better stop making a foolery of your salvation instead continually make your sanctification a daily affair

the highest mistake a man can make is to abandon going to church to serve God completely becos of what ur bishop or pastor did or said. ur pastor is only human therefore dont expect perfection from him or her.. serve God becos you want to serve God .

brian91:


Who do you blame since you don't blame me !!
Better stop making a foolery of your salvation instead continually make your sanctification a daily affair

Why not take a quick look at my threads to see that you have no idea of who you're speaking about.

And you ran to the media. Are you serving God or church? If church's decision affects you, run to the God who called you to service. This actually might be the reason you were sacked. You were never called. And people like you will always give way to the called.

jesusjnr2020:
Why not take a quick look at my threads to see that you have no idea of who you're speaking about.

Self acclaimed Jesus junior last I checked
The one who saw the revelation of the prophet of Baal from the real prophet
I saw your quote to late TB Joshua and few others
Funny you!

Take heed to my honest reply Oga!
Sanctification, make it your daily affair

Have a bless'd week
Shalom!!

Just listen to the gospel and be a doer of it...and leave God to judge all these "Men of God".
MONEY is one of the various way that the devil is using to fight the church..so sad many pastors are drifting away...SMH!

Now them we say don't judge.

I think we should be careful how we disparage the personality of men of God on this forum. They are human and as such do not deserve our condemnation.

this one strong ooooo

Winning souls for christ is business, and you need money to be in business. If you aren't profiting r producing you would be cut off like the unproductive fig tree

More church music from timaya
Even in the grave you must pay your tithes..
Abeg sack more cos country hard

you see as people are believing this kind stuff, you begin to wonder why things are not moving forward...
one guy somewhere will just form any story and the stupid ones will carry it.

Wetin u expect from the man after seeing what obi cubana did at his mother burial the man no one carry last oooo him get star to gather him own money now . churches now business center

IVORY2009:


I would have like help out, but too many scammers use this avenue here on nairaland, why did you deactivate your last handle?

I had a fall out with someone on a topic and didn't want any drama


Pls do help me
Means a lot...

focus7:
I just posted on one thread about Oyedepo. A most manipulative, deceptive and greedy pastor I ever know.

Modified: What a business strategy. A mandate to plant 10,000 churches in Nigeria with monthly minimum income generation of 3m. Multiply that by 10,000 that gives you 30billion in a month not adding what is generated from the other existing branches o.

You can imagine the pastor thought the motive was to win soul to the Lord not knowing it was to make money for Oyedepo.

Tell me how many importers from Alaba international makes that as profit in a month. Omo church is a business o, fleets of aircraft loading and the boasting will increase volume.

Nigeria government should start taxing churches, it's a business setting in Nigeria.

There is no way those rural churches will be expected to generate N3m. Most have a average capacity of around 100 at most and N3m will translate to average of about N7,500 per worshipper per service.

NewDelhi:

You just said Nonsense.

Every winners branch has an accommodation. (Usually at the back of the church). It's free for the pastor and his family. He doesn't need to pay a dime, the church doesn't give you money to rent anything. Once they redeploy you, you'll vacate and the next pastor will move in with his family. That's how it is in winners. Accomodation is free.

Secondly, paid which Money to get which hall? What are you saying please? Winners does not rent. They build their stations from scratch.

You're also talking of absenteeism? You think he's the only pastor running the affairs of the station? He has lieutenants and subsidiaries. It's a full time job. Fine they can have side hustle but you just have to find time to commit yourself to the number 1 purpose that brought you to that community.

What that pastor said might be true. I was in church today ( a winners branch in a remote area where my farm is ) and the pastor was unusually absent. To make matters worse, the assistant pastor said another pastor was coming next Sunday to preach. Maybe the former one has already been replaced we don't know but definitely , it was obvious something wasn't right somewhere.

Wow! Its obvious you don't know winners pretty well bro.. ... I didn't just say all those things just for saying sake. Please do your homework well. Go and ask the new pastors employed to the winners chapel. I would not say more than that. Cheers bro!

lilvicky68:
Omo.. business gats move forward na..even the fig tree that wasn't producing was cut down..

Pastors should take this as a lesson to venture into other businesses about from church so as not to be caught in a sapastic moment like this..

This is very wrong. The analogy you used is incoherent. How many disciples did Jesus sack for not preaching the gospel enough? Rather, He encouraged them to do more. Is church established to make money or to win souls? He would have made sense, had he sacked them for not winning souls for Christ. Many would say in the last day, Lord Lord, in your name did we do xyz and the Lord would say, I know ye not...there are many men and women of God whom God doesn't even have on His list of children. Churches are not business centres and this was what Jesus warned against.

No wonder we hardly see men of God who would raise the dead, open the blind and make deaf speak in the name of God today...Do you think God had changed? No! Its because people have compromised worshipping money and material things over their core cause...soul winning. Hardly would you see a popular pastor who wouldn't have armed security guards today. They don't want to die meanwhile Jesus' disciples feared no death. How can a man of God who fears death now raise people from the dead in the name of our Lord Jesus? Impossible.

No where in the letter was low income mentioned. They were sacked due to failure to reach their growth index

AmandaTalks:
A pastor at Winners Chapel has cried out after he was sacked for not generating enough money in his branch.

According to the pastor, mr Peter Godwin, he was invited by the state pastor and getting there he met other pastors about 40 and they were all sacked over low income in their branches.

Watch the video below from 2.44 minutes as a Living Faith Church Pastor reveals how he was sacked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLhcBEjpwxg

Blogger, Maureen Badejo also talks about the sack too. Watch from 40 minutes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_IpH8dndJk

AmandaTalks:
A pastor at Winners Chapel has cried out after he was sacked for not generating enough money in his branch.

According to the pastor, mr Peter Godwin, he was invited by the state pastor and getting there he met other pastors about 40 and they were all sacked over low income in their branches.

Watch the video below from 2.44 minutes as a Living Faith Church Pastor reveals how he was sacked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLhcBEjpwxg

Blogger, Maureen Badejo also talks about the sack too. Watch from 40 minutes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_IpH8dndJk

....



Business intents

IVORY2009:


I would have like help out, but too many scammers use this avenue here on nairaland, why did you deactivate your last handle?

I'm not a scammer

SARSCoV2:



Hello...

You not on page


No one is sending anybody to relocate. It's a Franchise. Same with redeem. You can buy it with money by just forming holy ghost for 2 month. What matters is what you are able to remit afterwards.

Lol, i don't know about franchise o! I just stated what i know.

lamentor78:
He must be a lazy pastor, no body will sack a pastor because of income, every church in Living Faith has committee, Elders , Deacons board , these are the ones that will recommend a pastor sack to the state or he might have committed a grave offence but looking for public sympathy

There are some things I would love to spill out...... Just that my mobile number is here and some jackasses might want to trace my posts

TBH sir, the number of them is in THOUSANDS not in tens or hundreds

You sef, why you never de collect offering and tithes

AmandaTalks:
A pastor at Winners Chapel has cried out after he was sacked for not generating enough money in his branch.

According to the pastor, mr Peter Godwin, he was invited by the state pastor and getting there he met other pastors about 40 and they were all sacked over low income in their branches.

Watch the video below from 2.44 minutes as a Living Faith Church Pastor reveals how he was sacked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLhcBEjpwxg

Blogger, Maureen Badejo also talks about the sack too. Watch from 40 minutes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_IpH8dndJk

philipobiz:

Omo see defending

I am actually not defending anybody. I am not a member but i have eyes in there. Most of those affected are the new pastors employed late last year.

Oyedepo go trend this week

Honestly, it isn't easy for Winners chapel pastors ooo. Most of them took up the job cos of the bad economy. The target they are given is on the same level if not more than Bank Marketers. I repeat with confidence, By fire by force they must bring in certain number of converts.

Patrioticman007:


Why is the church selfish ?.
You mean you want the pastor to move his family to a village of less than 100 villagers from the city ?. What school will his kids attend ?. What of the health institution in the village, that cannot cater for medical emergency ?. Why must the church sacrifice the younger generation for the church, instead of the GO's to be staying in the villages to win more souls, nope they will rather die in the comfort of the cities. My question is that what Jesus preached about loving your neighbor as yourself ?.

Well i don't know about that. I just stated what I know. The reason why they always advice their families to move with them is because they don't want the families to have scandals. Their are disciplinary issues that has led to the sack of some pastors.

NewDelhi:

You just said Nonsense.

Every winners branch has an accommodation. (Usually at the back of the church). It's free for the pastor and his family. He doesn't need to pay a dime, the church doesn't give you money to rent anything. Once they redeploy you, you'll vacate and the next pastor will move in with his family. That's how it is in winners. Accomodation is free.

Secondly, paid which Money to get which hall? What are you saying please? Winners does not rent. They build their stations from scratch.

You're also talking of absenteeism? You think he's the only pastor running the affairs of the station? He has lieutenants and subsidiaries. It's a full time job. Fine they can have side hustle but you just have to find time to commit yourself to the number 1 purpose that brought you to that community.

What that pastor said might be true. I was in church today ( a winners branch in a remote area where my farm is ) and the pastor was unusually absent. To make matters worse, the assistant pastor said another pastor was coming next Sunday to preach. Maybe the former one has already been replaced we don't know but definitely , it was obvious something wasn't right somewhere.

That part about all branches having accommodation isnt true. It is 90% wrong.

tillaman:
This can’t be real,

Its very real bro, join us in islam