HornyTave:


lol. Did you also notice the Ada bearer of Oba of Benin is the only non royal in that picture? The Ada signifies the prescence of the Oba. lol.

if others where greater, at least there should be something unusual about them in the picture.

look at the guy bearing Ooni's staff standing far away from the Ooni. if them wan assassinate am, before the guy reach where Ooni deh, na only head go deh ground. lol

VEHINTOLAR:


Ori Oba Ado shrine is in Ile Ife and that's a fact ! Take a trip to Ile Ife to clear your doubt. The symbol that will confront at the entrance of the shrine will shock you; a replica of an OmoNoba's head ! You don't need any video evidence,the shrine is there even till tomorrow !

osax4pal:
Lol
You amaze me please I will like to see a video evidence of the said cemetery and also the spot where the last oba was buried then I will be convinced,stop this hear say of the Benin buried their dead Obas in Ile Ife.

VEHINTOLAR:


Ori Oba Ado shrine is in Ile Ife and that's a fact ! Take a trip to Ile Ife to clear your doubt. The symbol that will confront at the entrance of the shrine will shock you; a replica of an OmoNoba's head ! You don't need any video evidence,the shrine is there even till tomorrow !

Truthvalue44:


Your "orun oba ado" is yet another yoruba scam and it was built with modern cement technology and is littered with British letters.
I repeat: no Oba of Benin empire was ever buried in Ife village. And again: oromiyan is a region in Ethiopia, not a person who existed. Oduduwa, obatala, oromiyan, ogiso never existed, they are just fairytales like that of Spiderman and superman and father Christmas.

EnEnPeecee:
don't mind these illiterates who don't read

Truthvalue44:
First of all the Oba said "we believe Oduduwa is the son of the king of Benin who was sent into exile and became the first Oni of Ife and whose son later returned to take over the reign of his father." He also said ". Notice the Oba of Benin whom is very well educated started by saying "we believe" rather than saying "it is a fact", the Oba also said we were not forcing our beliefs on others.
And lastly, notice that being an emperor doesn't give you special vision on past events.

In conclusion, you have difficulties with the very concept of history and time m, oduduwa is fairytale, he never existed, neither did oromiyan which is nothing but a region in Ethiopia. And the tale which you just said is a manipulation at best and a blatant lie, but again that is the yoruba trade mark, you guys love to tell lies on things which are easily verified.

EnEnPeecee:
https://guardian.ng/features/culture/up-till-1914-benin-obas-were-buried-in-ile-ife-oore-of-mobaland/ read till the end bro

Truthvalue44:


The ore of mobaland is a liar and he is telling a story with no eyewitness written record as if he witnessed it which would make him more than 100 years old. Also right in 1914, the Oba of Benin was buried in Calabar. There are records of eyewitness accounts of the burial of the Oba of Benin and they all claim it took place in Benin city around or in his palace, the blood of slaves were made to fill the ditches around the palace. You guys need to try and steal an other people's history with your storytelling. Benin history is solid and can't be modified by jealous outsiders.

I love how you guys just keep quoting each other and believe you are making a point.

EnEnPeecee:
So you now know Nigerian more than him abi? And you equally know history more than the Oba of BENIN who agreed that his great grandfather are from Ile Ife.

With the way you are sounding, i am convinced that your type are same people fighting the Ogisos who are the original aborigines. You must be an Oba of BENIN family because the Benin Oba and the Ogiso family are like cat and rat.

Truthvalue44:

You seem to be running out of scams to perform:

1) it is "conference of chiefs of the western provinces of Nigeria" not "chiefs of western conference"

2) Stop telling lies ! There was no "conference of yoruba chiefs". The conference whose title was changed by your fellow yoruba was originally called : "conference of chiefs of the western provinces of Nigeria" not "chiefs of western conference" and certainly not " conference of yoruba chiefs".

HornyTave:
Your problem is, you were either not trained well or too daft to reason appropriately.

The Yoruba group of today was a working of Awolowo,


The Ijebus are not from Ife.

'...according to him, Awujale is a foreigner in Yoruba land, as the Ijebus originated from Wadai in Sudan.
Mr. Adebowale said as a foreigner in Yorubaland, the Awujale and his Ijebu people lacked the authority to speak on the history of the Yoruba race ....'

“In the first instance, Awujale shouldn’t have dabbled into the issue of Obas in Yorubaland because he is not of Oduduwa origin, the Ijebus came from Wadai and my contemporary authority is Pa Olusegun Obasanjo because he had put it to Awujale himself that they are not Oduduwa descendants'

Source https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/200005-war-monarchs-egba-historian-backs-alake-says-awujale-foreigner-sudan.html

Oba Ewuare II, who explained why he should be regarded as the 40th Oba of Benin contrary to the belief that he is the 39th Oba, said: “There may be some divergent views about the origin of some of our ancestors but there is unanimity in the shared heritage between the people of Benin and Ile-Ife in identifying Oduduwa as a forebear of kingship in parts of Africa and Nigeria of today.
“Historians all agreed that Oduduwa sent his son Oranmiyan as requested by elders of Benin to return with them as ruler of their realm. Oranmiyan stayed in Benin, but his stay was short. But by the time he left he had a son known today as Eweka I. Oranmiyan’s time in Benin was however short-lived, he was an Oba. So he was the first Oba after the Ogiso dynasty, he established Obaship in Benin. Therefore the listing of past Obas should start from Oranmiyan. This actually made my late father the 39th Oba of Benin while I am the 40th Oba of Benin.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/pomp-pageantry-as-bini-kingdom-crowns-oba-ewuare-ii/

He said, “Those of you that know the history know that the then Oliha came to Ife to ask that Oranmiyan be brought to Benin. There are details in history books. I am cutting out the details. It’s all in the history books and you can research that. He (the then Oliha) was the one that successfully won the right to escort Oranmiyan to Benin to become the first oba of Benin.”

https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

In his response, the Ooni of Ile Ife, responding said, “It is a great joy and honour to have you in Ife today. We are very excited. The excitement has been in the air since the 24th of this month, Because we are so inter-related. We have common ancestry, we are so linked by virtue of blood, and our two kingdoms have a common ancestral history. I am very happy for the warmth and love you have extended to the kingdom of Ife. On behalf of the house of Oduduwa, we are very honoured for you to be in our midst today.

https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

christistruth01
MelesZenawi :
VEHINTOLAR :

@ VEHINTOLAR - Proverbs 18:2-3 Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions.

Truthvalue44:
Basically, you just repeat your claim which has been proven to be s lie.
Delusion.

There was never any "conference of yoruba chiefs", it was "conference of chiefs of the western provinces of Nigeria".

Truthvalue44:


Your "orun oba ado" is yet another yoruba scam and it was built with modern cement technology and is littered with British letters.
I repeat: no Oba of Benin empire was ever buried in Ife village. And again: oromiyan is a region in Ethiopia, not a person who existed. Oduduwa, obatala, oromiyan, ogiso never existed, they are just fairytales like that of Spiderman and superman and father Christmas.

Asiri1991:
I am back from work and it is disheartening that after all the facts, evidence and straightforward history presented by my brother - Truthvalue44 - the Yorubas are still trytrying to prove that they sired us. It is just a pity. I might just have to be careful when associating with you guys in real life. This topic is a clear indication of what you have done to the entire Nigerian political and social history through biases and unverified evidence to suit your ego. Spits!






I am off.

VEHINTOLAR:

https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/pomp-pageantry-as-bini-kingdom-crowns-oba-ewuare-ii/

“Historians all agreed that Oduduwa sent his son Oranmiyan as requested by elders of Benin to return with them as ruler of their realm. Oranmiyan stayed in Benin, but his stay was short. But by the time he left he had a son known today as Eweka I. Oranmiyan’s time in Benin was however short-lived, he was an Oba. So he was the first Oba after the Ogiso dynasty, he established Obaship in Benin. Therefore the listing of past Obas should start from Oranmiyan. This actually made my late father the 39th Oba of Benin while I am the 40th Oba of Benin.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/10/pomp-pageantry-as-bini-kingdom-crowns-oba-ewuare-ii/

Lol @ "oromiyan" of Ethiopia ! Boy,how could you say the first Oba (Alaafin) of Oyo,the great Oranmiyan,was one fictitious character - oromiyan or whatever from Ethiopia ?

Yoruba,we be your baba;whether you like it or not !

Credit : @Hot Tave

MelesZenawi:


Mr you are not Bini. Stop the ssstuuupppiddd tactics and allow history flow.

If you have issues with Yorubas create a thread to slug it out than this mischievous attitude.

Too many bad characters.

Asiri1991:
I am back from work and it is disheartening that after all the facts, evidence and straightforward history presented by my brother - Truthvalue44 - the Yorubas are still trytrying to prove that they sired us. It is just a pity. I might just have to be careful when associating with you guys in real life. This topic is a clear indication of what you have done to the entire Nigerian political and social history through biases and unverified evidence to suit your ego. Spits!






I am off.

Truthvalue44:


So yoruba revisionism is now considered history which should be allowed to flow ?

Look, I don't think you are even a Nigerian, you know next to nothing about Nigeria and just keep claiming different ethnicities depending on the conversation. I think you are probably a southafrican teenager whom is just trolling in nairaland and trying to create havoc.

MelesZenawi:


Face the issue moreover the Yoruba argument has more supported facts, superior argument.

You are just kicking with no solid kicking.

Truthvalue44:

Keep quiet troll.
I don't value the "opinion" of trolls.

MelesZenawi:


Mr you are not Bini. Stop the ssstuuupppiddd tactics and allow history flow.

If you have issues with Yorubas create a thread to slug it out than this mischievous attitude.

Too many bad characters.

Truthvalue44:
What type of fool quotes today's newspapers for historical research ? Can someone explain to fools that "news" and "history" are in complete opposition with each other ?
And to quote ill educated Nigerian journalists who know nothing about history...wtf ? Teenagers should stop joining debates about history.