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Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 9:27am On Jan 26, 2022 |
Nobody555 Rosement: Hmm... |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 9:36am On Jan 26, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 9:44am On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy:Oh, I should add articles to all the verses that claim Jesus is God in order to allow your claim make sense, the truth is I am not interested in pleasing you. I have told you severally to hold on to your believe and not pester me. There is no need for you to continue bothering me, I will continue to worship Jesus as God as long as I live. The New Testament was majorly written in Greek. Reading online articles or dwelling on what you are told will not help, try to go on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and you will find out a lot of new things. There is a difference between Theós (God) and énas Theós (a god). |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 9:52am On Jan 26, 2022 |
post:Cornelboy, I understand that you are very bias but what will you do call this? 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 10:06am On Jan 26, 2022 |
post:The so-called Jws brothers and sisters will not see anything wrong with this message. MaxInDHouse or any other jw are not our superiors, we cannot bow to them or honour their words and we cannot just keep quiet when they address us rudely. Respect is reciprocal. We are only giving jws a taste of their own medicines. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 10:17am On Jan 26, 2022 |
post:Cornelboy, MaxInDHouse directed this message to me. What would you call this? What is the point of even covering up the truth, it is already clear to everyone that jws are criticists. Next time, before you accuse me or backup an accuser, first observe your brothers in faith and make sure they are perfect. |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 11:03am On Jan 26, 2022 |
Nobody555:Another jw again. My time is too precious, I prefer to ignore you than give you answers because I know you jws like engaging in fruitless arguments. There is always an action before a reaction, your lies will never cover up your bad fruits. Type whatever you want to type, it will not change the world. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 11:43am On Jan 26, 2022 |
I hope you know that the Greek word "theos" could either be "God" or "god". The point is theos is used for Jehovah and also used for small gods even Satan. Why can't it be use for Jesus? 2 Corinthians 4:4 NLV [4]Satan, who is the god (theos) of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God (theos). You should see that capitalization was added when referring to God to show He's a greater God. It was also added when referring to Jesus to show his divinity not his equality with God Almighty. From every angle, the Bible shows that YHWH God is far more greater than Jesus His son. Exodus 7:1, KJV says "and God made Moses a god unto Pharaoh" while NKJV says "and God made Moses a God onto Pharaoh". Why? It's also obvious from the bible that the early church were in perfect harmony believing in one God the Father, they didn't believe in the Trinity nor were they inspired by the holy spirit to establish the doctrine. 1 Corinthians 8:6 NLV [6]But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live. Ephesians 4:6 NLV [6]one God and Father of all, who is over all, in all, and living through all. Trinity was established by the apostolic fathers after the death of the early apostles. The doctrines was established base on argument and debates in the Nicene council and the subsequent councils. Some were even killed why some were banished. It's crystal clear they weren't led by the holy spirit. The seed has been sown sister Rose shalom! Rosement: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:50am On Jan 26, 2022 |
I think what this young woman wants is for you guys to stop quoting her not explanation of what you believe. Because the more you explain the more it seems you're forcing your beliefs down her throat and she's not ready to accept anything from you! cornelboy: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 12:00pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
My sister you said it yourself that your just human not an angel. Everyone has his own altitude and character but we must all ensure to be like Christ in character. Max's altitude doesn't change anything bout God's Truth as well as yours. You both should change for better. Since you claim to have the holy spirit and that JWs are liars worshipping Satan, why didn't you show the fruits of the spirit, must you retaliate? The fact is Jesus criticized the religious leaders of his time. Rosement: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 12:09pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
I understand but she could just ignore my responses if she wasn't interested. I perceived that her heart really yearns for the truth unlike some people here. She's different MaxInDHouse: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:09pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy: The highlighted is an undeniable fact that we all need to consider thoroughly! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by oteneaaron(m): 12:11pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Rosement: Hey Sis, I just thought I should say this to you. Don't let the attacks nor the back and forth confrontation from MaxInDHouse & Co get to you. Many JWs have spent years learning and unlearning many of their changing teachings and doctrines. It is not easy for anyone to change their beliefs in a whim. After all, almost everyone is a victim of some form of indoctrination or another. The major curlpit is the entire structure we call RELIGION. Until this indoctrination machinery called RELIGION is dismantled, these things are bound to happen. But it will happen tho, I just don't know when, but one day the eyes of everyone will be opened and we will all realize that all we have been searching for, has been with us all along. Cheers! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:13pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy:Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! What she's telling you indirectly is to stop typing anything about Jesus that doesn't soothe her line of thought just as her pastors taught her. Those yearning for the truth often listens with keen interest to distinguish between truth and falsehood. But in the case of someone who doesn't want to identify which one is true then what she wants is for you to keep quiet if you won't agree with her type of Jesus! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
oteneaaron: You missed something very vital here! Any religion that members are ashamed to speak up for the doctrine on public forums of this kind has fallen already that's why their members are coming against the one and only mountain that is standing tall above all: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION! Matthew 5:14-16 compare to Isaiah 2:2 Everyone can SEE this one throughout the earth! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 12:19pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
I never said criticizing is a sin nor did I say Max didn't criticize. But when you first came to this thread what were you preaching? Why would you say I'm bias? Rosement: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by oteneaaron(m): 12:22pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Keep basking in your grand DELUSIONS. No wonder you couldn't answer any one of the single questions asked on this thread - - https://www.nairaland.com/6951521/top-5-questions-jehovahs-witnesses#109609732 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:27pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
oteneaaron: Exactly what i'm saying! Of all the religions on this planet the owner of your so called thread can see only one group: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. Matthew 5:14-16; Isaiah 2:2 So i asked: "Do you know of a better performing group than the one you're questioning?" |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 12:34pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy:Thanks for being concerned but I really don't need your advice, I know how to ask the true God of Heaven for forgiveness. Remove what is in your own eyes first, you are not a Saint either, so you are in no place to correct me because your corrections are of no use, you should only correct your brothers in faith. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 12:45pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Rosement: It's alright 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:48pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
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Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Rosement(f): 2:37pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy:You believe I am wrong, I believe you are wrong. Life is not hard, everybody has a right to their beliefs. So let's hold on to our beliefs because we cannot force each other. Instead of trying to change other's belief or forcing them to agree that you are the best, preach, so that those that agree with your views will accept it. Why did the Bible say καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος and not και θεός ήταν ο λόγος. καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος (or) kaí Theós ín o lógos - means And God was the word. και θεός ήταν ο λόγος (or) kai theós ítan o lógos - means And a god was the word. A determiner is a member of a class of words used to modify nouns or noun equivalents. Determiners help clarify what a noun is referring to and are typically placed before descriptive adjectives. This is simple Greek and English translation, there is no twist to it, so assumptions are not needed. John 1:1 is lacking a determiner because a determiner is not needed to qualify the true God of Heaven but in 2 Corinthians 4:4, there is a determiner explaining that satan is only the god of this world and not of Heaven. If you want to talk about President Buhari to a stranger in Nigeria, you can just say the president without using a determiner but if you are talking about another president, in order not to mislead the stranger it is compulsory for you to use a determiner to specific. The Bible cannot mislead us and it is very explainatory. There is no verse in the Bible were satan or any other small god was mentioned as a god singularly without using a determiner, such mistakes did not occur in the Bible. If you are not trying to backup your claims you would have understood this immediately. This is my own view of the Bible, you don't have to accept mine because I have no right over you, in the same way you have no right over me and I don't have to accept your views also. For peace to reign, let's not try to understand each other. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Emusan(m): 4:24pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Janosky: Eliab isn't the chosen one, reason why God corrected Samuel. Now, where did God correct Russell. Yet despite the numerous predictions, 1914 is still your key days 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Emusan(m): 4:35pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
My post always giving you sleepless night Janosky: Never make any coherent sentences in his life. Go reflect on John 20:17 the reference scripture of the true Christianity of Jesus Christ. The way you always reflecting on my post. That's a good job for you. Emusan, @ Matthew 5:11 & Matthew 24:9, did Jesus Christ refer to 3 persons worshippers? You added worshippers but Jesus refers to 3 PERSONS, true or false? The answer is very luminous- to JEHOVAH'S servants Yet no straight answer 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Emusan(m): 4:40pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Janosky: Acts 15:28-29 never limited the blood to ONLY PERSON'S BLOOD but since you know you can't do without eating blood from animals you have to add "PERSON'S BLOOD" Dubious JWs 1 John 5:3, Emusan who wrote it in your Bible? Russell and his pagan team Are you willing to obey God's command? Yes! Are you obeying God's commandment? Emusan continue DECEIVING yourself. We know you Mr continue to deceive yourself 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Emusan(m): 4:44pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Janosky: Even you know that if we search your perverted NWT from now till you'll receive sense, you can't find the word "better performing group" there. So why citing different verses where such word never existed? Well, that's JWs abracadabra Pray to JEHOVAH, ask for His holy spirit to open your eyes of understanding, because you have none. So Jehovah can answer my prayer when I'm not JWs Can you see how deluded you are. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Emusan(m): 4:46pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Janosky: He should not mind me yet you couldn't answer my question but only to bring irrelevant verse up. So Russell uses 1 Samuel 16:6 to miscalculated the day bah 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:16pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Oh no wahala na. But why don't you support your interpretation of John 1:1 with the Bible itself? If you have something to offer I'm ready to learn. 1 Corinthians 8:6 NLV [6]But for us, There is one God, the Father, by whom all things were created, and for whom we live. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created, and through whom we live. Why did Paul say here that "there's one God, the Father"? Rosement: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:19pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
God answers anyone that prays to him according to his will. Emusan: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:25pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy: Be careful! He's already in the quagmire all he wants is to make a JW roll with him in the mud. So don't give him the pleasure of exchanging hurtful words with him. We know that they're hurt due to the truth we preach but when you allow their haughtiness to infect you you will not know by the time you will begin using hurtful words like them. They know their worth, we know our worth! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:28pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
. If animal's blood could be so important to God, how much more a person's blood. Leviticus 17:10-12,14 [10]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you eats or drinks blood in any form, I will turn against that person and cut him off from the community of your people, [11]for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the lord. It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible. [12]That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood—neither you nor the foreigners living among you.’ [14]The life of every creature is in its blood. That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood, for the life of any creature is in its blood.’ So whoever consumes blood will be cut off from the community. Abi humans are not creatures? Verse 11 no show you say blood sacred? Emusan: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by Emusan(m): 8:46pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
cornelboy: Funny enough you can't do without eating blood from animals you killed. So if eating or drinking of blood is the way you interpreted it then, you're not obeying that law. Thou my post you quoted above is how your brother internationally add his own word into God's word. Which you never addressed |
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