Op and her friend kindly update us when you guys are leaving Canada too

Brilliantly put together. I am happy relocating abroad has broaden your spectrum and has helped to get your points across without being uncouth compared to some years back.

ednut1:
Although the op na my friend i will tackle her.

1. There are people building wealth in cheaper provinces like Alberta or New Brunswick where houses go for 300k to 400k. In Ontario its like 900k to 1.5m for the average house and you suppose drop 5% deposit for mortgage. Married people or common law guys are able to build wealth too due to combined income. Solution is move to a cheaper province, get married or find a partner.
2 . Cost of living- where in the world is not costly. With all the amenities, free resources, and standard of living why should it be cheap There are many people earning 3700 dols a month but staying in apartments costing 2200 dols. Is that not madness. Some are one 2500 a month but their rent is 1800 lol
3 . Boredom and loneliness- Nigerians move to a cold country and refuse to do what whites do in the winter. Whose fault is that Many ladies from Nigeria have unrealistic expectations and are single to stupor. Whose fault is that Lol
4 cold. Get a good winter jacket or knacks partner. Nothing dey there
5. Professional jobs- doctors know this before coming and should have explored uk. A friend passed the medical exams in 18months its doable. Yes there are issues with Canada experience but with constant applications and upgrading ones skills. You will be able to get in. You and i both know many people with only Nigerians experience or degrees balling in big companies

Oya come back home o.

I know people especially tech who moved to usa after getting their Canada citizenship. More money is involved and passport privileges too don set. The Canadian passport opens doors to better countries

rickleye:


Okay- let me establish contact.
Give me a week and I’ll get back to you.

okay bro. Thanks

That's the queen's own town, you either come spend money here or work and pay the Queen taxes, for staying in her own insured estate.

franchasofficia:
I understand the urge to defend where you live, but you guys are misinterpreting the op.

The op didn't say Nigeria is better than Canada.


She listed points and I can boldly tell you that all she said are true.


After Moscow Russia, Canada is one of the coldest countries on earth, so it is normal for blacks to feel awkward about the new cold weather, and that cold have made many people leave Canada, so the op didn't lie.


Wealth creation: the op is 100% correct. It is easier to become rich in USA, Australia, and some other developed countries than in Canada. To become rich in Canada is very difficult just as it is also difficult to become rich in UK as a Nigerian migrant unless you join business/entrepreneurship.


Go to any community in Nigeria, the richest people (professionals) living abroad from that community are either those living in the US, Europe and maybe UK, you can hardly hear of a rich Nigerian living in Canada, so it is a prove that Nigerians living in Canada hardly become rich in Canada, they could be comfortable but rich, nope.


The op is absolutely correct with that point.


Loneliness: the op is also very correct.


Medical professionals: Canada is the only country that require a foreign trained Nurse to acquire Canadian nursing license before studying nursing in Canada. It is bullshiiit. Canadian healthcare system is below US, UK, Germany and others that accept our Nurses without further educational qualification from their country. How many groundbreaking medical research comes out of Canada? How many new drugs are manufactured in Canada? How many rare case surgeries are first discovered or performed in Canada?


Canada is good for Nigerians tired of Nigeria and have no other developed country option to migrate to, but it is never an option for someone that can migrate to US, Australia, Germany, etc to consider.


US is the number one country where nobody can become billionaire.


Ellon Musk tried in Canada and couldn't achieve his dream of becoming a billionaire in Canada so he migrated to US and today he is the richest man on earth.


How many world billionaires comes from Canada? Absolutely none that is known but US, UK, Australia, Germany, France, etc have long list of billionaires which should tell you where the wealth is.


Canada is not for anybody that desires to become rich and wealthy, it is for people that want to break the yoke of family poverty and give their children a secured future to become middleclass and upper middleclass.

I am not defending. Just saying what I know.

Do you live here? The Nigerian community in Canada is largely new. The mass migration to Canada began after 2014/2015. It’s too early to do the intense comparative analysis you are doing, but I know the countries to highlight what I know.

Cold….Alberta is colder than Ontario. Winter is largely Winter in the Western world.

Go to the UK, 80-90% of Nigerians who moved there in the last 10 years still live in small rented houses. I lived in a community in Canada where 14 of us bought our homes within 2 years of landing.

I lived in the UK studying from UG to PhD level. I know the US well too. While you can make more money in the US, healthcare, childcare and other costs and cultural violence makes it an expensive place to live and raise kids.

Sha, I no get the time to waste on your points.

Bossmanmoves:



You've said something worthwhile but at the end, I'm just wondering '' are you really that educated".
Just a thought though ( I don't see the reason why you have to be insultive ).
Don't let me think you aren't matured.
I want to believe you are matured

I am not that educated, I am a tiny ignorant voice saying my truth. I was just irritated by a mindset reflected in that post and the generalizations. My apologies sha. �

apolonius:


I am not defending. Just saying what I know.

Do you live here? The Nigerian community in Canada is largely new. The mass migration to Canada began after 2014/2015. It’s too early to do the intense comparative analysis you are doing, but I know the countries to highlight what I know.

Cold….Alberta is colder than Ontario. Winter is largely Winter in the Western world.

Go to the UK, 80-90% of Nigerians who moved there in the last 10 years still live in small rented houses. I lived in a community in Canada where 14 of us bought our homes within 2 years of landing.

I lived in the UK studying from UG to PhD level. I know the US well too. While you can make more money in the US, healthcare, childcare and other costs and cultural violence makes it an expensive place to live and raise kids.

Sha, I no get the time to waste on your points.

The only point you raised that demarkets US compared to Canada is gun violence and then racial profiling.



Go to Nigerian schools back in Nigeria, the biggest diaspora donors and funders of academic and other programs in their alma mater are those living in the US mostly, then Europe and maybe UK. You can hardly find a rich Nigerian professional living in Canada.


UK and Canada are almost at the same level; it is difficult to become rich in both Canada and UK when compared to other developed countries.

Canada is a beautiful country for people satisfied with living middleclass and upper middleclass life, not meant for migrants with bigger dreams of becoming rich financially, you know what I am saying.



Have a beautiful day

Whizqueen get sense o.

Viewers go don full her channel.


Good job gal

ednut1:
people are making 200k to 300k doing two remote jobs like you said. Op should come back first lol

A friend moved to the GTA, Canada to join his family in October last year. He has been working with 3 banks because of the remote work and making $26k monthly. He is a Project Manager.

I know friends that came in 2018/2019 who are Vice Presidents of banks like CITI among others.

I am talking about people in my circle. These things can be verified in the WhatsApp groups of former bankers from Nigeria. You can also go on LinkedIn. I can give names!�

People talk about the US and the UK. Most of the Nigerians I studied with, often from rich families, are in the UK doing security jobs, working in Morrison’s, ASDA and MacDonald’s. I am proud of them but it’s what they can get.

Unlike the UK where Canary Wharf and big city jobs are for the Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College, LSE lots, many Nigerians working in big Canadian banks and holding prime positions studied in Ife, Awka, Osogbo, Anyigba, Zaria and Abeokuta. Nothing more! �

Yes, some Nigerians are teachers and nurses in the UK and the US. How much do Nigerian nurses and teachers make in the UK? 26-34k annually. Nigerian professors in UK universities make 50-75k annually. I have a sister teaching in a high school in Alabama with a PhD in education leadership. Her income is less than $50k annually.

Professors in Canada, starting with the lowest rank of Assistant Professor earns between $137-150k. Full professors earn between $160-350k. If you want to check do the next thing:

Google the Ontario Sunshine List where the government mandates that people making salaries of $100k above be displayed. For instance, check for Professor Obi Okafor of Osgoode Law School. I will delete this in few minutes!�

So Canada isn’t so much better than the U.K. after all. I’ve always known the main advantage Canada has over the U.K. is the Express entry PR route and nothing more unless that I keep hearing that their child benefit is about $500 a month per child. Which I find huge. Can anyone in Canada confirm if child benefits there is that much and is it means tested or doesn’t matter the income of the parents?

BennyDGreat:


Well...I think what makes the difference is knowledge. Knowing what you want and going for it will reduce moving around in circles.
What the Op wrote isn't trash actually.
What does people you know have in common is knowledge and Proper planning. What the Op wrote applies to those who don't have these two.

I agree. Life, success and opportunities are almost always relative. Another key influence on what you do and get is the immigration pathway that brought you to Canada. If you came through the Express Entry with your PR or Spousal Sponsorship for PR/Work Permit, your challenges will be fewer. If you came as a student, the challenges will be higher to transition to PR. If you came as a Refugee Claimant, the challenges will be higher and the opportunities will be fewer and lower initially. These things affect so much greatly.

franchasofficia:
I understand the urge to defend where you live, but you guys are misinterpreting the op.

The op didn't say Nigeria is better than Canada.


She listed points and I can boldly tell you that all she said are true.


After Moscow Russia, Canada is one of the coldest countries on earth, so it is normal for blacks to feel awkward about the new cold weather, and that cold have made many people leave Canada, so the op didn't lie.


Wealth creation: the op is 100% correct. It is easier to become rich in USA, Australia, and some other developed countries than in Canada. To become rich in Canada is very difficult just as it is also difficult to become rich in UK as a Nigerian migrant unless you join business/entrepreneurship.


Go to any community in Nigeria, the richest people (professionals) living abroad from that community are either those living in the US, Europe and maybe UK, you can hardly hear of a rich Nigerian living in Canada, so it is a prove that Nigerians living in Canada hardly become rich in Canada, they could be comfortable but rich, nope.


The op is absolutely correct with that point.


Loneliness: the op is also very correct.


Medical professionals: Canada is the only country that require a foreign trained Nurse to acquire Canadian nursing license before studying nursing in Canada. It is bullshiiit. Canadian healthcare system is below US, UK, Germany and others that accept our Nurses without further educational qualification from their country. How many groundbreaking medical research comes out of Canada? How many new drugs are manufactured in Canada? How many rare case surgeries are first discovered or performed in Canada?


Canada is good for Nigerians tired of Nigeria and have no other developed country option to migrate to, but it is never an option for someone that can migrate to US, Australia, Germany, etc to consider.


US is the number one country where nobody can become billionaire.


Ellon Musk tried in Canada and couldn't achieve his dream of becoming a billionaire in Canada so he migrated to US and today he is the richest man on earth.


How many world billionaires comes from Canada? Absolutely none that is known but US, UK, Australia, Germany, France, etc have long list of billionaires which should tell you where the wealth is.


Canada is not for anybody that desires to become rich and wealthy, it is for people that want to break the yoke of family poverty and give their children a secured future to become middleclass and upper middleclass.

We are talking about Nigerians. How many are billionaires in the US, UK et al?

Really

apolonius:


We are talking about Nigerians. How many are billionaires in the US, UK et al?

There are so many Nigerians who are millionaires in USD in the US and some EU countries, even UK, but none that we know in Canada.



Even among indigenous Canadians, you can hardly find dollar billionaires, if any, must be a handful compared to US and EU

folake4u:


Hello. Interesting writeup.

So basically, you're saying that just the same way you did Bar 1& Bar 2 over here in Nigeria, you'd start all over before practising in Canada?

How feasible is Law Practice in Canada, particularly on Health law, Tech Law and Intellectual Property Law.

I'd be anticipating your reply. Thank you.

To get licensed as a lawyer, you need to apply to the NCA, get assigned some courses and write the exams. The exams are written a few times annually. You can write all in one sitting if you are a genius. If you pass and get your NCA certificate, you then apply to the Law Society of Ontario or the province where you want to practice. The Bar exams-Barrister and Solicitor’s-are written 3 times a year. Not sure if this has increased or decreased because of the pandemic-induced changes.

If you pass the bar exams, you can either apply for Articling or get an exemption as I did. Of course, you will called to the bar. What you do after that is up to you.

Those who love transactional practice areas and with good experience can join banks and corporations as In-house Counsels or join law firms-big, medium and small.

Networking will determine how fast you get good opportunities to practice after your call.

Hope this helps.

femijay8271:


Boss, i fit send u a Gmail message

Please do!

apolonius:


A friend moved to the GTA, Canada to join his family in October last year. He has been working with 3 banks because of the remote work and making $26k monthly. He !�

I also work in one of the places you mentioned and have friends that I also referred there. But some idiots are here arguing with me or calling me a liar. Going forward i will ignore. I’m mot responsible for their misery lol

Eagba:

why can't our sisters get oyinbo easily

Demand and supply. Even Oyibos aren’t getting Oyibos easily. The concept of marriage is fast waning in the Western world. Also, many men and women are experimenting and stretching the boundaries of their sexualities. It’s a hedonist age.

But, they are many great dating sites for those looking for adventures, experience and pleasures. Seeking Arrangement is one for sugar girls looking for sugar daddies!���

Jokes apart, I think a young Naija lady who is doing well in Canada can look back home, find and attract good Naija men. You may eat frogs a few times. You may bring them to Canada and lose them.

…But your chances are always brighter with your own kind.

Marriage and its survival in Canada na another story for another day. Ask any family lawyer!

monfizzy:
So Canada isn’t so much better than the U.K. after all. I’ve always known the main advantage Canada has over the U.K. is the Express entry PR route and nothing more unless that I keep hearing that their child benefit is about $500 a month per child. Which I find huge. Can anyone in Canada confirm if child benefits there is that much and is it means tested or doesn’t matter the income of the parents?

when most Nigerians come they declare their previous Nigerian income ( its a requirement to declare previous income) . Which make them qualify for the maximum child benefits around 600 cad a month. As income increases the benefits reduces with time. Someone with over 100k salary will be getting around 250 dols a month as child benefit. While the ones below 32k get the max amount

ednut1:
I also work in one of the places you mentioned and have friends that I also referred there. But some idiots are here arguing with me or calling me a liar. Going forward i will ignore. I’m mot responsible for their misery lol

Good to know, bro. Ignore them. People don’t know what they don’t know. For many Nigerians, the default defence for their ignorance is to insult. You just can’t help them. Live your life and have fun.

We may have crossed paths. TD and Scotia banks are two of his 3. To avoid identification, will leave out the third. Nice to connect here.

Lonepair1:
guy you are just mad !! Point out where I said traveling abroad is not wise ?? Stop imposing what I did not say on me !

Lol. English is really hard. I didn't say traveling abroad is not wise. Read the summary of the conversation below;

You: so no Nigerian doctor have survived in Nigeria Australia?? UK ?? Or us ?? Or even south Africa, Dubai ?
That's not an excuse bro.. you can succeed anywhere !!!

Me: You can succeed in Nigeria. Those that want to go abroad to succeed, let them be. You are not wiser than them.

What i meant was that if you as a person want to succeed in Nigeria, good for you. If other Nigerians feel they want to travel abroad to succeed, good for them too. You that wants to succeed in Nigeria is not wiser than the person who thinks he will succeed abroad.

Lonepair1:
how please ?? Mind you , I don't mind traveling but Canada is a NO No

Your choice bro!

franchasofficia:
There are so many Nigerians who are millionaires in USD in the US and some EU countries, even UK, but none that we know in Canada.



Even among indigenous Canadians, you can hardly find dollar billionaires, if any, must be a handful compared to US and EU

We have millionaires in Canada. We know them. You don’t. So, your opinions are not necessarily the facts.

Indigenous billionaires? Are you joking? Given their history and the trauma of their lives, you really want to go there? How many native Americans are billionaires?

I guess we are looking at different things. If you truly know the 2 countries, you won’t be discussing these things. Americans are running to Canada daily.

ednut1:
Although the op na my friend i will tackle her.

1. There are people building wealth in cheaper provinces like Alberta or New Brunswick where houses go for 300k to 400k. In Ontario its like 900k to 1.5m for the average house and you suppose drop 5% deposit for mortgage. Married people or common law guys are able to build wealth too due to combined income. Solution is move to a cheaper province, get married or find a partner.

3 . Boredom and loneliness- Nigerians move to a cold country and refuse to do what whites do in the winter. Whose fault is that Many ladies from Nigeria have unrealistic expectations and are single to stupor. Whose fault is that Lol
4 cold. Get a good winter jacket or knacks partner. Nothing dey there

I know people especially tech who moved to usa after getting their Canada citizenship. More money is involved and passport privileges too don set. The Canadian passport opens doors to better countries

Regarding 1 and 4 to get partner, I haven't been here for long, where una dey see partners, the apps I downloaded where asking for 30 dollars per month, na so una dey pay, abeg recommend wetin to do

olalekan9320:
Regarding 1 and 4 to get partner, I haven't been here for long, where una dey see partners, the apps I downloaded where asking for 30 dollars per month, na so una dey pay, abeg recommend wetin to do

instagram , clubhouse, meet up etc are free apps to meet people in Canada. Clubs , parks and tourist attractions too dey. You go see people there

1east:


You are very correct

I don’t indulge these people. But to support people like you, I will.

I know a guy working with Amazon from Oshawa. He makes $345k. They have overwhelmed him with an offer to move to Texas. He leaves next month.

ednut1:
when most Nigerians come they declare their previous Nigerian income ( its a requirement to declare previous income) . Which make them qualify for the maximum child benefits around 600 cad a month. As income increases the benefits reduces with time. Someone with over 100k salary will be getting around 250 dols a month as child benefit. While the ones below 32k get the max amount

We got the benefits and it helped us greatly initially. In fact, our first car was from the first lump sum payment. �

ednut1:
instagram , clubhouse, meet up etc are free apps to meet people in Canada. Clubs , parks and tourist attractions too dey. You go see people there

thank you for the recommendation, I'll check them out

ednut1:
instagram , clubhouse, meet up etc are free apps to meet people in Canada. Clubs , parks and tourist attractions too dey. You go see people there

If you dey GTA, go to ATL and Toop Lounges. Add EST 2020. You will be fine after 2-3 visits.

ednut1:
when most Nigerians come they declare their previous Nigerian income ( its a requirement to declare previous income) . Which make them qualify for the maximum child benefits around 600 cad a month. As income increases the benefits reduces with time. Someone with over 100k salary will be getting around 250 dols a month as child benefit. While the ones below 32k get the max amount

Ok thanks for the clarity

apolonius:


To get licensed as a lawyer, you need to apply to the NCA, get assigned some courses and write the exams. The exams are written a few times annually. You can write all in one sitting if you are a genius. If you pass and get your NCA certificate, you then apply to the Law Society of Ontario or the province where you want to practice. The Bar exams-Barrister and Solicitor’s-are written 3 times a year. Not sure if this has increased or decreased because of the pandemic-induced changes.

If you pass the bar exams, you can either apply for Articling or get an exemption as I did. Of course, you will called to the bar. What you do after that is up to you.

Those who love transactional practice areas and with good experience can join banks and corporations as In-house Counsels or join law firms-big, medium and small.

Networking will determine how fast you get good opportunities to practice after your call.

Hope this helps.

NCA means the National Committee on Accreditation. This is their page, the process and exam schedules: https://nca.legal/process/

apolonius:


If you dey GTA, go to ATL and Toop Lounges. Add EST 2020. You will be fine after 2-3 visits.

na Calgary wey I dey