CheapHomes1:


Are you and the guy I responded to part of those who in the "1st 1000 years of Christianity"? Are we in the "1st 1000 years of Christianity"? Was my statement directed at "1st 1000 years of Christianity"?

How did you arrive at the following conclusions? :

"And I stated that most people couldn't read anyway up until recently. So your assertion holds no water. What people have always had is church guidance as Jesus clearly set up."

When is "recently"? Kindly give a specific date.

The place you are "interpreting" or better still "misinterpreting ", can you pls quote the scripture for me?

You obviously don't get the point I'm making. You made an assertion without thinking of the implication. you stated thay catholics don't read the bible so don't understand what Christianity is all about. how do you think those who couldn't read for centuries understood what Christianity was all about?!
In any case catholics do read the bible.
You need to check the data for global illiteracy rates over the centuries, a majority still couldn't read 300 years ago.

Jashub:


First read his post before engaging me with your own version of stupidity . In case you missed his point, look at the screenshot I sent .

"It seems to me like the essence of Pentecostalism has been defeated."

Is this the same as saying all Pentecostal churches are like that ? ...( the one he attended?)

JewsAreSatanic:


I have always maintained that it is far easier to convert a radical violent Islamic terrorist to Christ than an instutionalized Catholic sheep.

You are stuck to catholic church same way a Cele member is to their Afro spiritual doctrine because your entire life has been one of ritual severance to the institution known as Catholicism.

Your religion is materialism just like Judaism and as such even the truth can not reach you.

So you and only you have the licence and access to heaven right? Self righteousness . bloated self serving god.. He sees himself and his fellow church members as the only people accessible to God..remain in your illusion

Originalsly:


"It seems to me like the essence of Pentecostalism has been defeated."

Is this the same as saying all Pentecostal churches are like that ? ...( the one he attended?)

You are just an illiterate with a phone . See the quote Pentecostalism , that is a f**king generalization . And if you cannot comprehend that, then stay the hell off my mentions with your stupidity

Tunjibalogun:
I'm a Catholic but once in a while I get to attend pentecostal churches when invited by colleagues though. So I went to this very well known pentecostal church. I found out the following:

(1) They've now modelled their church into several services just as it is done in the Catholic Church unlike before when they go to church by 7am and return by 2pm

(2) They have the pictures of their daddy GO inside the church just like the Catholics use those of Jesus

(3)They also had ornaments like holy oil just like in the Catholic church

(4) They have communion service just like in the Catholic church. I took their wine and communion though

It seems to me like the essence of the pentecostalism is now been defeated because the pentecostal churches we knew when growing up never had these aspects that resembled the Catholic Church practices. To add to it some pentecostal churches now ordain bishops too which were never existent to them them except to the orthodox churches.

The one thing Pentecostal churches are not doing is, bow and speak to IDOLS, pray to their hand-made moulded god as Catholics do.

CATHOLICS ARE IDOL WORSHPPERS!!!

frankson1:







The one thing Pentecostal churches are not doing is, bow and speak to IDOLS, pray to their hand-made moulded god as Catholics do.

CATHOLICS ARE IDOL WORSHPPERS!!!

I swear . There is absolutely no difference between a catholic and an Ifa priest

Interesting thread.

Unfortunately, all the people in this thread refer to themselves as Christians, yet see the way they curse one another.


TunjiBalogun, I know you will call me demented, unintelligent and mischievous like you have been doing to the rest, but you are delusional!

These things you posted are Biblical practices, not Catholic practices. So Pentecostals are not copying Catholics.

Conversely, would it not even be great to see unity and synchronisation between two denominations? Where Pentecostals see something they like in Catholic and copy it, and vice versa, instead of this satanic competition.

edungene7:
so when a living Christian dies what becomes of him

Good question.

A Christian, whether dead or alive, is called a Saint (child of God). But there's another name for a dead Saint: the cloud of witnesses. The cloud of witnesses are saints that cheer us up to push harder and not fall in our walk with God. Also, they assist in intercession. Although, their duty is not to intercede. Apostle Paul, David, Mary, Peter and another heroes of faith belong here, including Joseph Babalola, Benson Idahosa, Reinhard Bonnke etc.

The role Catholics have given to Mary is the role that belongs to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit has the office of the intercessor. Too much honour that should have been channeled to God (through the Holy Spirit and Jesus) is what you have given to Mary and that is idol worship.

Of course, Mary should be respected, but she has no business with what God is doing now. She has fulfilled her duty while on earth. The Holy Spirit has descended, Jesus has ascended, so leave her out. Mary is just human like you and me. Like Paul, she can't do the job of the Holy Spirit.

Simple. Do not be deceived.

Tunjibalogun:
I'm a Catholic but once in a while I get to attend pentecostal churches when invited by colleagues though. So I went to this very well known pentecostal church. I found out the following:

(1) They've now modelled their church into several services just as it is done in the Catholic Church unlike before when they go to church by 7am and return by 2pm

(2) They have the pictures of their daddy GO inside the church just like the Catholics use those of Jesus

(3)They also had ornaments like holy oil just like in the Catholic church

(4) They have communion service just like in the Catholic church. I took their wine and communion though

It seems to me like the essence of the pentecostalism is now been defeated because the pentecostal churches we knew when growing up never had these aspects that resembled the Catholic Church practices. To add to it some pentecostal churches now ordain bishops too which were never existent to them them except to the orthodox churches.

Rest ...u guys will just be observing nonsense. No be Jesus Christ u find go, shey na daddy G.O??

Jashub:


You are just an illiterate with a phone . See the quote Pentecostalism , that is a f**king generalization . And if you cannot comprehend that, then stay the hell off my mentions with your stupidity

You just confirmed that you lack basic comprehension skills.... typical ignoramus that resort to shouting and expletives when cornered with their own ignorance. Simple question and you explode.... verbal terrorist.

Originalsly:


You just confirmed that you lack basic comprehension skills.... typical ignoramus that resort to shouting and expletives when cornered with their own ignorance. Simple question and you explode.... verbal terrorist.

I just called out your ignorance and you are here talking like a drunk fool . Abeg swerve from my mentions

Thank God you said their G/o pix and they were not worshipping it just like some churches worship fake Jesus and Mary portraits. If you ur foundation had allowed u to know bible you will understand that anointing oil has been effective in both old and contemporary pentecostal church.

Tunjibalogun:
I'm a Catholic but once in a while I get to attend pentecostal churches when invited by colleagues though. So I went to this very well known pentecostal church. I found out the following:

(1) They've now modelled their church into several services just as it is done in the Catholic Church unlike before when they go to church by 7am and return by 2pm

(2) They have the pictures of their daddy GO inside the church just like the Catholics use those of Jesus

(3)They also had ornaments like holy oil just like in the Catholic church

(4) They have communion service just like in the Catholic church. I took their wine and communion though

It seems to me like the essence of the pentecostalism is now been defeated because the pentecostal churches we knew when growing up never had these aspects that resembled the Catholic Church practices. To add to it some pentecostal churches now ordain bishops too which were never existent to them them except to the orthodox churches.

Being ordained a Bishop is a bible thing, not what a pentecostal church does or does not do. Taking Holy Communion is an injunction given by Jesus, not an orthodox thing that pentecostals now practice too.

btoks:

You obviously don't get the point I'm making. You made an assertion without thinking of the implication. you stated thay catholics don't read the bible so don't understand what Christianity is all about. how do you think those who couldn't read for centuries understood what Christianity was all about?!
In any case catholics do read the bible.
You need to check the data for global illiteracy rates over the centuries, a majority still couldn't read 300 years ago.

You haven't answered my questions.

Are you and the guy I responded to part of those who in the "1st 1000 years of Christianity"? Are we in the "1st 1000 years of Christianity"? Was my statement directed at "1st 1000 years of Christianity"?

How did you arrive at the following conclusions? :

"And I stated that most people couldn't read anyway up until recently. So your assertion holds no water. What people have always had is church guidance as Jesus clearly set up."

When is "recently"? Kindly give a specific date.

The place you are "interpreting" or better still "misinterpreting ", can you pls quote the scripture for me?

edungene7:
The church of Christ

How does the church of Christ make anyone a saint?

surah 24:33 And let those who do not have the means to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His bounty. And if any of those ˹slave girls˺ in your possession desires a deed of emancipation, make it possible for them, if you find goodness in them. And give them some of Allah’s wealth which He has granted you. Do not force your ˹slave˺ girls into prostitution for your own worldly gains while they wish to remain chaste. And if someone coerces them, then after such a coercion Allah is certainly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful ˹to them˺.

Here allah is allowing prostitution of captured girls. do not ask ask to prostitute but if someone wants to sleep with them, do not hold back. use them to make money for yourself.

There is no Catholic or Pentecostal faith. Only faith in Jesus, whether Pentecostal or Catholic, so it's one family sir.

God bless you my dear! We die as Catholics. It's only a fool that will be deceived. They celebrate their dead mother's post numinous birthdays and yet they tell me not to talk about mother Mary shuuum. My dear, just check out zion prayer outreach and follow the page on Facebook or YouTube so dt u see wonders happening in the Catholic church. Pastors and people that left the church are coming back sef.

Obiorahpcfg:
God bless you my dear! We die as Catholics. It's only a fool that will be deceived. They celebrate their dead mother's post numinous birthdays and yet they tell me not to talk about mother Mary shuuum. My dear, just check out zion prayer outreach and follow the page on Facebook or YouTube so dt u see wonders happening in the Catholic church. Pastors and people that left the church are coming back sef.

Rest .... Read John 14:6

JewsAreSatanic:


It was never a donation but an imposed Church tax.

Parishes were franchised for tax extortion on those unfortunate to live under the realm of Catholicism.

Was there not a time a Pope came up with a canon where sins were forgiven through monetary penance?




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hmmm, i said it, catholic to pentecostals is like Holy Ghost fire to satan., person go be in im church come dey know wetin de happen to other peeps church without going there, na witch or wizard na im be naa. Can u send a link of this ur news to justify ur claim. Meanwhile, as if there is no church that doesnt impose levy on members, i even have see a protestant wey don tell members to come with 5 eggs each,

You cannot shy away from things that shape human society.

His observation is existent.

ITS NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES ARE EMULATING BUT THE OLDER AFRICAN CHURCHES LIKE ANGLICAN,BAPTIST AND THE REST!

Church business ! One man business managed by his family. Free monies & enjoyment for the family. brainwashed human beings as members . They cage the broke ones & give special treatment to the rich ones who are probably criminals , ritualist , 419, armed robbers. Daddy GO don’t care as long as the criminals are funding the church business.

Tunjibalogun:
I'm a Catholic but once in a while I get to attend pentecostal churches when invited by colleagues though. So I went to this very well known pentecostal church. I found out the following:

(1) They've now modelled their church into several services just as it is done in the Catholic Church unlike before when they go to church by 7am and return by 2pm

(2) They have the pictures of their daddy GO inside the church just like the Catholics use those of Jesus

(3)They also had ornaments like holy oil just like in the Catholic church

(4) They have communion service just like in the Catholic church. I took their wine and communion though

It seems to me like the essence of the pentecostalism is now been defeated because the pentecostal churches we knew when growing up never had these aspects that resembled the Catholic Church practices. To add to it some pentecostal churches now ordain bishops too which were never existent to them them except to the orthodox churches.

Jashub:
This is ignorance at its peak . You went to probably two Pentecostal churches then suddenly came to the conclusion that all Pentecostal churches in the world are like that ...? Na wah for ignorance

Rather attack his person, the least that is expected of you is to tell us the Pentecostal Churxh that is not into these practices

Jashub:
Get off my mentions with your self-imposed stupidity.

little whinging idiot

Tunjibalogun:

It's a Dunamis church baba. We even connected to their central church in Abuja

Ok boss, noted, learn to give complete information, tell it all.....wrong practice tho, papa picture inside God church = idol worship...

Obiorahpcfg:
God bless you my dear! We die as Catholics. It's only a fool that will be deceived. They celebrate their dead mother's post numinous birthdays and yet they tell me not to talk about mother Mary shuuum. My dear, just check out zion prayer outreach and follow the page on Facebook or YouTube so dt u see wonders happening in the Catholic church. Pastors and people that left the church are coming back sef.

I don't have nothing against Catholics, but Your history is a very terrible one filled with blood and alot of borderline witchcraftcy , sprinkled with idolatry and homosexuality,repent or ye shall all likewise perish.....if u mention me with nonsense comment, u go collect

Tunjibalogun:
I'm a Catholic but once in a while I get to attend pentecostal churches when invited by colleagues though. So I went to this very well known pentecostal church. I found out the following:

(1) They've now modelled their church into several services just as it is done in the Catholic Church unlike before when they go to church by 7am and return by 2pm

(2) They have the pictures of their daddy GO inside the church just like the Catholics use those of Jesus

(3)They also had ornaments like holy oil just like in the Catholic church

(4) They have communion service just like in the Catholic church. I took their wine and communion though

It seems to me like the essence of the pentecostalism is now been defeated because the pentecostal churches we knew when growing up never had these aspects that resembled the Catholic Church practices. To add to it some pentecostal churches now ordain bishops too which were never existent to them them except to the orthodox churches.

Wait o
Was there a time when Pentecostal churches don't take Communion?

Is it this 2022 that you found out Pentecostal churches have different services on Sundays?

It's a pity how things that made no sense make front page in nairaland.

Nonsense and ingredients

Officialgarri:

I don't think he said "all pentecostal".

By the way, his observation is correct and majority of what should be pentecostal churches have watered their standard to accommodate more "customers"

You get sense!

It may interest you to know that some of the Pentecostal churches even recites the Apostles creed.

Blaqputin:

I don't have nothing against Catholics, but Your history is a very terrible one filled with blood and alot of borderline witchcraftcy , sprinkled with idolatry and homosexuality,repent or ye shall all likewise perish.....if u mention me with nonsense comment, u go collect

That history is our collective history. You cannot shy away from it. So far you are a Christian, you are automatically a descendant of the early christians upto the last 500 years. So don't come and rewrite history here sir.
We all took part in the maiming, pillaging and crusades of the Church.

Tunjibalogun:
I'm a Catholic but once in a while I get to attend pentecostal churches when invited by colleagues though. So I went to this very well known pentecostal church. I found out the following:

(1) They've now modelled their church into several services just as it is done in the Catholic Church unlike before when they go to church by 7am and return by 2pm

(2) They have the pictures of their daddy GO inside the church just like the Catholics use those of Jesus

(3)They also had ornaments like holy oil just like in the Catholic church

(4) They have communion service just like in the Catholic church. I took their wine and communion though

It seems to me like the essence of the pentecostalism is now been defeated because the pentecostal churches we knew when growing up never had these aspects that resembled the Catholic Church practices. To add to it some pentecostal churches now ordain bishops too which were never existent to them them except to the orthodox churches.

Comrade your ignorance is very High and deluded
No need to educate your gullible ignorance
I don't want argument